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TicaTica
Profile Joined June 2014
Costa Rica194 Posts
June 12 2014 10:21 GMT
#1561
Voting Obiwan. I think it's Steveling. Regardless he's scummy.
TicaTica
Profile Joined June 2014
Costa Rica194 Posts
June 12 2014 10:23 GMT
#1562
On June 12 2014 17:55 Palmar wrote:
Very sneaky voting man this Haru.

You're increasing my rating to 10.2 right. That was my goal. Cheerio.
TicaTica
Profile Joined June 2014
Costa Rica194 Posts
June 12 2014 10:24 GMT
#1563
On June 12 2014 19:05 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 19:02 marvellosity wrote:
On June 12 2014 18:58 Koshi wrote:
marv, JAT is scum. I feel it in my bones. You should look into it.

you need to tell me why though. because i'm leaning town on my broski.

I don't know yet.

I find this oddly reassuring coming from you.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 12 2014 10:26 GMT
#1564
JaT response to getting called scum:

On June 11 2014 06:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani what do you think of JAT?


Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red.

Oh no! Did you gather that from your question to me?


As scum in Intrigue (sadly only 1 example because there is only 1 example available because JAT seems to roll town only):
On January 13 2014 07:33 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 07:28 Koshi wrote:
First time you said you need to go but made 3 more posts. Maybe it is townie, but I don't remember you doing that in other games. But ok, not scummy for this:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 12 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:
You are seriously candidating for mayor rayn?

See you in ~ 3 hours.


On January 12 2014 02:45 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Apparently i thought Cheesecake was town last game, i wasn't the driving force behind lynching Corazon and Artanis was an easy catch on N1. But in the end kush might misremember that game..

Apparently in Extractor trick in the end of D1 my scumreads were gumshoe and yamato. I think thrawn can tell more about this.

Also in other games kushm4sta has played with me my D1 reads have been terrible. He won't elaborate more though.

Ok, I don't know which games you are talking about but I will take your word for it I guess.


On January 12 2014 02:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ofc i am. Why are people doubting it?

I just want to know if it is worthwhile to consider to elect you. Last post for now.


On January 12 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 02:46 marvellosity wrote:
jat, you didn't quite grasp rayn's dripping sarcasm there, did you

I obviously didn't. Maybe cause I am in a hurry right now.


But here you do it again, and it's not like you got a million posts. You have like 20 posts total back then and 8 are made "in a hurry":+ Show Spoiler +

On January 12 2014 12:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Anyways I am off for now. It has gotten really late.

On January 12 2014 13:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 13:00 thrawn2112 wrote:
Has anyone talked to JAT in pms? I have been recently and I got the impression that he was making up his reads on the spot. Explanations were short and there weren't many conclusions. He also only talked about people that I mentioned first, something I noticed about my own scum mason play (esp the rayn chat) from Time to Die. Does anyone have similar or contrasting experiences with him in pm's?

Well the reason for this is probably that some of those reads were indeed formed on the spot. I did not think deeply about all of the persons on your list and had to think about what my actual opinion on some of them is.



The thing about the restricted and intelligent thing that is lacking are these 5 consecutive posts of you

On January 12 2014 06:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 12 2014 06:37 yamato77 wrote:
Well, if it's Chez, we pretty much just ignore/lynch him at our convenience.

It would be nice to know who it is, regardless.

Why? The only time I played with Chezinu (PYP) he played really well and townie.

On January 12 2014 07:46 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 12 2014 07:45 Blazinghand wrote:
well i retract any reason of lynchinig kush! don't lynch him as he is actually vayne

Mind = blown.


On January 12 2014 07:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 12 2014 07:53 Alakaslam wrote:
What about a mayor you can WotC? I am open.

Huh?


On January 12 2014 08:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 12 2014 08:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 12 2014 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 12 2014 08:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 12 2014 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 12 2014 03:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 12 2014 03:21 yamato77 wrote:
On January 12 2014 03:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
It's weird to make a post that essentially functions as a list of accusations/scumreads without actually calling anyone scummy/scum/or likely scum and even admitting in suchdoges case that he doubts he is mafia? So what's even the point of saying anything then.

Implied suspicion?

I think Xatalos is townie from what I know of him. This seems nitpicky.

I don't think so at all. You have four or five people listed, you only barely called one of them scum, you're not really asking questions of any of them. If I was on that list I wouldn't feel any need to respond to anything Xatalos said. He talks about suchdoges suspicious behavior then says it's more likely town than scum so what is he even getting at? I wish people would stop posting lists like that, they're the worst posts ever.

So DrH you make a post like this where i assume you call Xatalos scummy.
About 10 minutes later you PM me about your scumreads and "funny feelings" but Xatalos is not there. Why?

what do you mean why

You give me a list of your scumreads. I assume you are asking me about what i think of them. If Xatalos is your scumread why the hell is he not on the list?

And why are you voting for yamato for mayor if i am going to execute your scumread?

i don't like you to be honest i've never hated anyone in a game more than i hate you but i think you're town, i'm being petty

This only answers the second question and not the first one.


On January 12 2014 11:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 12 2014 10:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 12 2014 10:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
forcing a claim out of you is ideal anyway tbh

Why, exactly? Were you planning on tunneling this to the ends of the earth?

I don't really get this either.


On January 12 2014 11:43 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 12 2014 11:35 Aquanim wrote:
On January 12 2014 11:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 12 2014 11:16 Aquanim wrote:
On January 12 2014 11:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
let's talk about how derrida is scum

Yeah, OK.

Reasons to think he's scum:
list post, but that's a heuristic in which I have only limited confidence
bases his mayoral preferences first on "enjoying reading their filter because it is srs" and second his read on them

Reasons to think he's town:
I got nuffin, but I do have...

Reasons I'm not certain yet:
he has like 2 posts and being a newbie his thinking about "is this relevant to whether they should be mayor or not" probably isn't expected to be entirely accurate whatever his alignment

tl;dr I'm not certain he's scum but he's a reasonable guess

P.S. will go meta him now re. Marv's statement

do you have a stronger read on someone else then?

No. I have a couple of similar strength though.

All I see in justanothertownie's two-page filter is kinda pointless oneliners in which he commits to almost nothing. For all I know he's doing work in PMs, but based on his thread presence so far he's another possible scum for me.

This one isn't a scumread as such, but as long as Captain Obvious continues to post only "obvious" stuff and committing to nothing he's going to be next to impossible to read I think.

And then there's the eight or so other lurkers.

Of the active players I reckon at least most are town.

Maybe you could point out the scummy things in my 2 page filter then? Or is my thread presence the only reason for your read? You don't even have one filter page and call other people lurkers...


But I just glanced over some pages of PYP and you do this kinda one-liners there as well so mehhhh.


okokok

You are off the list.

Is your confidence in your other reads of similar strength?

I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 12 2014 10:27 GMT
#1565
So I've removed about half the game from my lynch pool:

Obiwan, Koshi, sinani, poofter, BM, gumshoe, roundabound, Palmar, batsnacks, yamato, Chromatically (pending meta check) because i think they're townish to varying degrees

then there's like sandroba, foolish, Holy, slam, Exo who I don't want to lynch atm for varying reasons (more time for 1&2&3, crapshoot for 4, good chance newbie town for 5)

So that leaves ritoky, rainbows, jat, MZ, Erandorr, kush, Kingofcats, CR, Haru, s&b, Tica, ketomai, Vayne

I could reasonably remove Erandor, kush, Vayne as total crapshoots similar to Slam (who was on a different list simply due to quantity of posting)

that leaves ritoky, rainbows, jat, MZ, kingofcats, CR, Haru, s&b, Tica, ketomai

as a stab i think i'd maybe want to leave tica, jat, rainbows alone today.

so ritoky, MZ, kingofcats, CR, haru, s&b, ketomai

probably i should concentrate mostly in that list.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 12 2014 10:32 GMT
#1566
maybe CR is ok too for now and I should leave the remaining 6.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
TicaTica
Profile Joined June 2014
Costa Rica194 Posts
June 12 2014 10:43 GMT
#1567
I'm slightly disappointed you are even minor lay considering me as a lynch Marv. Shame on you.
TicaTica
Profile Joined June 2014
Costa Rica194 Posts
June 12 2014 10:44 GMT
#1568
Shame on me too but shame on you.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 12 2014 10:45 GMT
#1569
I don't like people who post in a dumb style. But you've also provided opinions and stuff instead of just using it as a cover, so I don't want to lynch you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 12 2014 10:56 GMT
#1570
On June 12 2014 19:21 TicaTica wrote:
Voting Obiwan. I think it's Steveling. Regardless he's scummy.

Not the worst guess.
I had a good night of sleep.
TicaTica
Profile Joined June 2014
Costa Rica194 Posts
June 12 2014 10:57 GMT
#1571
On June 12 2014 19:45 marvellosity wrote:
I don't like people who post in a dumb style. But you've also provided opinions and stuff instead of just using it as a cover, so I don't want to lynch you.

Yah well I stopped. It was way too much work to make my post half readable just to try to disguise who I am.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 12 2014 11:05 GMT
#1572
fuck this deadline is at a terrible time for me. i'm actually going to have to decide who i want to lynch while i'm at work, how irritating
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
June 12 2014 11:17 GMT
#1573
On June 12 2014 18:46 Koshi wrote:
justanothertownie
Why is ObiWan or CR scum?

I ask this because I think you are scum.

I don't really want to lynch either of them right now. Why?
On June 12 2014 19:26 Koshi wrote:
JaT response to getting called scum:

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:51 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani what do you think of JAT?


Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red.

Oh no! Did you gather that from your question to me?


As scum in Intrigue (sadly only 1 example because there is only 1 example available because JAT seems to roll town only):
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 07:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 13 2014 07:28 Koshi wrote:
First time you said you need to go but made 3 more posts. Maybe it is townie, but I don't remember you doing that in other games. But ok, not scummy for this:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 12 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:
You are seriously candidating for mayor rayn?

See you in ~ 3 hours.


On January 12 2014 02:45 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Apparently i thought Cheesecake was town last game, i wasn't the driving force behind lynching Corazon and Artanis was an easy catch on N1. But in the end kush might misremember that game..

Apparently in Extractor trick in the end of D1 my scumreads were gumshoe and yamato. I think thrawn can tell more about this.

Also in other games kushm4sta has played with me my D1 reads have been terrible. He won't elaborate more though.

Ok, I don't know which games you are talking about but I will take your word for it I guess.


On January 12 2014 02:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ofc i am. Why are people doubting it?

I just want to know if it is worthwhile to consider to elect you. Last post for now.


On January 12 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 02:46 marvellosity wrote:
jat, you didn't quite grasp rayn's dripping sarcasm there, did you

I obviously didn't. Maybe cause I am in a hurry right now.


But here you do it again, and it's not like you got a million posts. You have like 20 posts total back then and 8 are made "in a hurry":+ Show Spoiler +

On January 12 2014 12:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Anyways I am off for now. It has gotten really late.

On January 12 2014 13:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 13:00 thrawn2112 wrote:
Has anyone talked to JAT in pms? I have been recently and I got the impression that he was making up his reads on the spot. Explanations were short and there weren't many conclusions. He also only talked about people that I mentioned first, something I noticed about my own scum mason play (esp the rayn chat) from Time to Die. Does anyone have similar or contrasting experiences with him in pm's?

Well the reason for this is probably that some of those reads were indeed formed on the spot. I did not think deeply about all of the persons on your list and had to think about what my actual opinion on some of them is.



The thing about the restricted and intelligent thing that is lacking are these 5 consecutive posts of you

On January 12 2014 06:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 12 2014 06:37 yamato77 wrote:
Well, if it's Chez, we pretty much just ignore/lynch him at our convenience.

It would be nice to know who it is, regardless.

Why? The only time I played with Chezinu (PYP) he played really well and townie.

On January 12 2014 07:46 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 12 2014 07:45 Blazinghand wrote:
well i retract any reason of lynchinig kush! don't lynch him as he is actually vayne

Mind = blown.


On January 12 2014 07:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 12 2014 07:53 Alakaslam wrote:
What about a mayor you can WotC? I am open.

Huh?


On January 12 2014 08:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 12 2014 08:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 12 2014 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 12 2014 08:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 12 2014 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 12 2014 03:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 12 2014 03:21 yamato77 wrote:
[quote]
Implied suspicion?

I think Xatalos is townie from what I know of him. This seems nitpicky.

I don't think so at all. You have four or five people listed, you only barely called one of them scum, you're not really asking questions of any of them. If I was on that list I wouldn't feel any need to respond to anything Xatalos said. He talks about suchdoges suspicious behavior then says it's more likely town than scum so what is he even getting at? I wish people would stop posting lists like that, they're the worst posts ever.

So DrH you make a post like this where i assume you call Xatalos scummy.
About 10 minutes later you PM me about your scumreads and "funny feelings" but Xatalos is not there. Why?

what do you mean why

You give me a list of your scumreads. I assume you are asking me about what i think of them. If Xatalos is your scumread why the hell is he not on the list?

And why are you voting for yamato for mayor if i am going to execute your scumread?

i don't like you to be honest i've never hated anyone in a game more than i hate you but i think you're town, i'm being petty

This only answers the second question and not the first one.


On January 12 2014 11:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 12 2014 10:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 12 2014 10:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
forcing a claim out of you is ideal anyway tbh

Why, exactly? Were you planning on tunneling this to the ends of the earth?

I don't really get this either.


On January 12 2014 11:43 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 12 2014 11:35 Aquanim wrote:
On January 12 2014 11:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 12 2014 11:16 Aquanim wrote:
On January 12 2014 11:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
let's talk about how derrida is scum

Yeah, OK.

Reasons to think he's scum:
list post, but that's a heuristic in which I have only limited confidence
bases his mayoral preferences first on "enjoying reading their filter because it is srs" and second his read on them

Reasons to think he's town:
I got nuffin, but I do have...

Reasons I'm not certain yet:
he has like 2 posts and being a newbie his thinking about "is this relevant to whether they should be mayor or not" probably isn't expected to be entirely accurate whatever his alignment

tl;dr I'm not certain he's scum but he's a reasonable guess

P.S. will go meta him now re. Marv's statement

do you have a stronger read on someone else then?

No. I have a couple of similar strength though.

All I see in justanothertownie's two-page filter is kinda pointless oneliners in which he commits to almost nothing. For all I know he's doing work in PMs, but based on his thread presence so far he's another possible scum for me.

This one isn't a scumread as such, but as long as Captain Obvious continues to post only "obvious" stuff and committing to nothing he's going to be next to impossible to read I think.

And then there's the eight or so other lurkers.

Of the active players I reckon at least most are town.

Maybe you could point out the scummy things in my 2 page filter then? Or is my thread presence the only reason for your read? You don't even have one filter page and call other people lurkers...


But I just glanced over some pages of PYP and you do this kinda one-liners there as well so mehhhh.


okokok

You are off the list.

Is your confidence in your other reads of similar strength?


Is this your case Koshi? Impressing.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
June 12 2014 11:20 GMT
#1574
I like marvs lynchpool. Not that scummy on CR and haru but ketomai, kingofthecats, ritoky and snb are good lynches.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 12 2014 11:27 GMT
#1575
On June 12 2014 19:27 marvellosity wrote:
So I've removed about half the game from my lynch pool:

Obiwan, Koshi, sinani, poofter, BM, gumshoe, roundabound, Palmar, batsnacks, yamato, Chromatically (pending meta check) because i think they're townish to varying degrees

then there's like sandroba, foolish, Holy, slam, Exo who I don't want to lynch atm for varying reasons (more time for 1&2&3, crapshoot for 4, good chance newbie town for 5)

So that leaves ritoky, rainbows, jat, MZ, Erandorr, kush, Kingofcats, CR, Haru, s&b, Tica, ketomai, Vayne

I could reasonably remove Erandor, kush, Vayne as total crapshoots similar to Slam (who was on a different list simply due to quantity of posting)

that leaves ritoky, rainbows, jat, MZ, kingofcats, CR, Haru, s&b, Tica, ketomai

as a stab i think i'd maybe want to leave tica, jat, rainbows alone today.

so ritoky, MZ, kingofcats, CR, haru, s&b, ketomai

probably i should concentrate mostly in that list.


Any reasons why I am included in this list?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 12 2014 11:29 GMT
#1576
because i don't have any particular reason to think you're town, and you're much more aggressive/dismissive than you were in your previous game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 12 2014 11:29 GMT
#1577
He might be just doing the ego, you know, he did play well last game.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 12 2014 11:30 GMT
#1578
maybe. but it's enough reason for me to be pretty wary.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 12 2014 11:31 GMT
#1579
Also marv's townlist is basically a copy paste of mine, except I didn't have Obiwan in it, and I sort-of have sandroba in it.

I feel much better about marv.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 12 2014 11:31 GMT
#1580
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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