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On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.
I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.
All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.
My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.
##Vote:Chairman Ray
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On June 12 2014 05:26 ExO_ wrote:
Gumshoe, I don't see what makes you think I'm afraid to give out opinions on people. I think the vast majority of what's happening so far is silly speculation based on virtually nothing. I have no desire to join the super psycho-analyst club and explain why every little post means you either scum or town. When I've had opinions on people I've voiced them so far.
Though I think the early banter may serve a purpose, people are way to full of themselves if they honestly believe they can discern mafia based on whats happened so far. When I have something to add, I'll add it.
Different places have different meta, I guess. On the mafias that I used to play (warcraft 3 custom map mafia), the meta was to shittalk as much as you can d1 and lynch the guy who is the most serious. Tl mafia's meta is to over analyse everyone d1, get on a policy lynch wagon and cry.
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On June 12 2014 05:32 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:26 ExO_ wrote:
Gumshoe, I don't see what makes you think I'm afraid to give out opinions on people. I think the vast majority of what's happening so far is silly speculation based on virtually nothing. I have no desire to join the super psycho-analyst club and explain why every little post means you either scum or town. When I've had opinions on people I've voiced them so far.
Though I think the early banter may serve a purpose, people are way to full of themselves if they honestly believe they can discern mafia based on whats happened so far. When I have something to add, I'll add it. Different places have different meta, I guess. On the mafias that I used to play (warcraft 3 custom map mafia), the meta was to shittalk as much as you can d1 and lynch the guy who is the most serious. Tl mafia's meta is to over analyse everyone d1, get on a policy lynch wagon and cry.
Don't shit-talk something you don't understand.
TL towns over the past 6-9 months have had an abnormally high hit-rate on mafia day 1.
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Haru's general tone is quite different to Detention Mafia actually
Hmm.
*looks at Haru*
hmmmmmm
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On June 12 2014 05:33 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:32 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:26 ExO_ wrote:
Gumshoe, I don't see what makes you think I'm afraid to give out opinions on people. I think the vast majority of what's happening so far is silly speculation based on virtually nothing. I have no desire to join the super psycho-analyst club and explain why every little post means you either scum or town. When I've had opinions on people I've voiced them so far.
Though I think the early banter may serve a purpose, people are way to full of themselves if they honestly believe they can discern mafia based on whats happened so far. When I have something to add, I'll add it. Different places have different meta, I guess. On the mafias that I used to play (warcraft 3 custom map mafia), the meta was to shittalk as much as you can d1 and lynch the guy who is the most serious. Tl mafia's meta is to over analyse everyone d1, get on a policy lynch wagon and cry. Don't shit-talk something you don't understand. TL towns over the past 6-9 months have had an abnormally high hit-rate on mafia day 1.
Probably because of this pressure that is put on votes, causing overreaction for some who are not used to it.
By how this thread is developing, I doubt we will get a good d1 lynch outside of a policy lynch on a mafia. Not enough materials to work on.
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Caught up again, and keto hasn't posted since my filter analysis, so I'll talk a little about Koshi and why I'm going to vote for him.
First of all, in general I don't really like process of elimination as a means to "solving the game." Especially on day 1. The amount of null reads you are going to have is kind of going to screw with that. Additionally, process of elimination seems like it could be a method for scum to use because it would take a lot of effort for town to do effectively while taking much less for a mafia member because they know people's alignment.
He says he wants to try a new playstyle, which alone I certainly have no problem with, but the one he chose seems to not help town very much. How is not responding to questions asked of you and refusal to participate in discussion pro-town?
I don't like his analysis of Chromatically. The "way he entered the thread" was fine to me and as I said before I'm leaning town on him. And I'm kind of confused as to what his point is with that section of his post. He calls us scrubs for thinking Chromatically isn't scum and then says that he doesn't think he is scum either in the tl;dr.
And the MZ case seems forced. The whole "he needs to be watched" thing to voting him seems like a chain missing a few links.
Then he says he's going to be friendly, posts a few one liners, and then complains that people are hating on him for being "tryhard" when he has put about two posts with anything that resembles effort into this game. It seems like he's pretending he's tryhard by saying it a lot.
Try harder.
##Vote: Koshi
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On June 12 2014 05:35 marvellosity wrote:
Haru's general tone is quite different to Detention Mafia actually
Hmm.
*looks at Haru*
hmmmmmm
Detention mafia is my first game in TL lol. Nice way to judge. I learnt some stuff over there that is changing my 'meta' a bit.
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On June 12 2014 05:37 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:35 marvellosity wrote:
Haru's general tone is quite different to Detention Mafia actually
Hmm.
*looks at Haru*
hmmmmmm Detention mafia is my first game in TL lol. Nice way to judge. I learnt some stuff over there that is changing my 'meta' a bit.
first game or not, the difference is striking.
how would you say your 'meta' is changing, then?
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On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray
CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him.
Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting.
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On June 12 2014 05:26 ExO_ wrote:
Gumshoe, I don't see what makes you think I'm afraid to give out opinions on people. I think the vast majority of what's happening so far is silly speculation based on virtually nothing. I have no desire to join the super psycho-analyst club and explain why every little post means you either scum or town. When I've had opinions on people I've voiced them so far.
Though I think the early banter may serve a purpose, people are way to full of themselves if they honestly believe they can discern mafia based on whats happened so far. When I have something to add, I'll add it.
Ultimately Exo, this is a game / : and I often feel like town players get that, but scum don't as a result of the fear we impose on them. A reluctance to post reads as fear to me but I've never played you before so I won't pretend as if I really know what your thinking. That said, I feel it's unfair of you to amount all that's been said to psycho analyst banter ) : a lot of interesting valid things have been said by your peers and if none of it appeals to you why are you playing this game? Speaking of which, your goal in this match is two fold, it is not enough to find scum, you have to prove to us that your town so that by the time you do offer up your true accusations we trust you enough to follow. that's why we all offer these reads ( even if they're not perfect) as opposed to hoarding our suspicions like menacing house wives.
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On June 12 2014 05:38 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:37 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:35 marvellosity wrote:
Haru's general tone is quite different to Detention Mafia actually
Hmm.
*looks at Haru*
hmmmmmm Detention mafia is my first game in TL lol. Nice way to judge. I learnt some stuff over there that is changing my 'meta' a bit. first game or not, the difference is striking. how would you say your 'meta' is changing, then?
For example, I've learnt through the death of JWZ that d1 is simply a day to collect info. Thus I'll try all means to collect info on d1, throw it out in a giant ball on n1 or d2 (depending if I survive the night) and home in on targets d2.
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On June 12 2014 05:40 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:38 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 05:37 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:35 marvellosity wrote:
Haru's general tone is quite different to Detention Mafia actually
Hmm.
*looks at Haru*
hmmmmmm Detention mafia is my first game in TL lol. Nice way to judge. I learnt some stuff over there that is changing my 'meta' a bit. first game or not, the difference is striking. how would you say your 'meta' is changing, then? For example, I've learnt through the death of JWZ that d1 is simply a day to collect info. Thus I'll try all means to collect info on d1, throw it out in a giant ball on n1 or d2 (depending if I survive the night) and home in on targets d2.
that's a totally incorrect lesson to take. Also not what I was referring to with regards to how you're playing.
Anyway I'm going to sit on this for a while and see what happens. I'm pretty tempted to vote for you though, which I guess must be quite annoying for you because i haven't specified why. but i'm not going to right now. maybe i should read your filter ;D
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On June 12 2014 05:37 sinani206 wrote:
Caught up again, and keto hasn't posted since my filter analysis, so I'll talk a little about Koshi and why I'm going to vote for him.
First of all, in general I don't really like process of elimination as a means to "solving the game." Especially on day 1. The amount of null reads you are going to have is kind of going to screw with that. Additionally, process of elimination seems like it could be a method for scum to use because it would take a lot of effort for town to do effectively while taking much less for a mafia member because they know people's alignment.
He says he wants to try a new playstyle, which alone I certainly have no problem with, but the one he chose seems to not help town very much. How is not responding to questions asked of you and refusal to participate in discussion pro-town?
I don't like his analysis of Chromatically. The "way he entered the thread" was fine to me and as I said before I'm leaning town on him. And I'm kind of confused as to what his point is with that section of his post. He calls us scrubs for thinking Chromatically isn't scum and then says that he doesn't think he is scum either in the tl;dr.
And the MZ case seems forced. The whole "he needs to be watched" thing to voting him seems like a chain missing a few links.
Then he says he's going to be friendly, posts a few one liners, and then complains that people are hating on him for being "tryhard" when he has put about two posts with anything that resembles effort into this game. It seems like he's pretending he's tryhard by saying it a lot.
Try harder.
##Vote: Koshi
So why am I scum exactly?
Give me the bullet points.
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On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him. Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting.
Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out.
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On June 12 2014 05:42 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:37 sinani206 wrote:
Caught up again, and keto hasn't posted since my filter analysis, so I'll talk a little about Koshi and why I'm going to vote for him.
First of all, in general I don't really like process of elimination as a means to "solving the game." Especially on day 1. The amount of null reads you are going to have is kind of going to screw with that. Additionally, process of elimination seems like it could be a method for scum to use because it would take a lot of effort for town to do effectively while taking much less for a mafia member because they know people's alignment.
He says he wants to try a new playstyle, which alone I certainly have no problem with, but the one he chose seems to not help town very much. How is not responding to questions asked of you and refusal to participate in discussion pro-town?
I don't like his analysis of Chromatically. The "way he entered the thread" was fine to me and as I said before I'm leaning town on him. And I'm kind of confused as to what his point is with that section of his post. He calls us scrubs for thinking Chromatically isn't scum and then says that he doesn't think he is scum either in the tl;dr.
And the MZ case seems forced. The whole "he needs to be watched" thing to voting him seems like a chain missing a few links.
Then he says he's going to be friendly, posts a few one liners, and then complains that people are hating on him for being "tryhard" when he has put about two posts with anything that resembles effort into this game. It seems like he's pretending he's tryhard by saying it a lot.
Try harder.
##Vote: Koshi So why am I scum exactly? Give me the bullet points.
[*]All of your analyses seemed forced
[*]The plays you have made so far are much easier for scum to make than town
[*]Refusing to participate in discussion
[*]Lack of defense
[*]Making sure everyone knows how invested you are in the game
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- All of your analyses seemed forced
- The plays you have made so far are much easier for scum to make than town
- Refusing to participate in discussion
- Lack of defense
- Making sure everyone knows how invested you are in the game
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On June 12 2014 05:40 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:38 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 05:37 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:35 marvellosity wrote:
Haru's general tone is quite different to Detention Mafia actually
Hmm.
*looks at Haru*
hmmmmmm Detention mafia is my first game in TL lol. Nice way to judge. I learnt some stuff over there that is changing my 'meta' a bit. first game or not, the difference is striking. how would you say your 'meta' is changing, then? For example, I've learnt through the death of JWZ that d1 is simply a day to collect info. Thus I'll try all means to collect info on d1, throw it out in a giant ball on n1 or d2 (depending if I survive the night) and home in on targets d2.
Haru, did you just claim power role?
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Yo, I'm gonna have to sheep someone tomorrow and not be so active. I have a ton of stuff lined up (mother's bday -> valentines' day / world cup -> costume party) and won't be able to read the thread indepth till d2 most likely if I'm left alive.
I believe this man marv is town so I'll sheep his vote. I'll try to check the thread every once in a while till then.
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On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him. Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting.
That post started out by calling your post scummy then ended by saying your not scum? How is that well thought out? Then he accuses bat, whose the staunch enemy of round, chairs own scum read, but then drops his bat accusation when it doesn't gather steam... I don't know, he posts a lot but I don't feel those posts are as extremely thought out as you say.
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On June 12 2014 05:47 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:40 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:38 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 05:37 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:35 marvellosity wrote:
Haru's general tone is quite different to Detention Mafia actually
Hmm.
*looks at Haru*
hmmmmmm Detention mafia is my first game in TL lol. Nice way to judge. I learnt some stuff over there that is changing my 'meta' a bit. first game or not, the difference is striking. how would you say your 'meta' is changing, then? For example, I've learnt through the death of JWZ that d1 is simply a day to collect info. Thus I'll try all means to collect info on d1, throw it out in a giant ball on n1 or d2 (depending if I survive the night) and home in on targets d2. Haru, did you just claim power role?
why would you even ask?
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