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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 09:36 GMT
#1041
On June 11 2014 12:51 Rainbows wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 09:20 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 08:53 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 11 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote:
I voted Tica because I dislike him more. More words does not equal bigger scumread.

I still think my post was pretty good. Reason:
I think my towns are town.
My questionables good pressures points.

I will continue my quest tomorrow.


His recent posts backing up your wolf lean on him? How do you feel about Marv/Sandroba/JaT not liking your post at all? You think thats alignment indicative for any of them?

Also You're doing a poor job of try harding if you make one post a day. Please don't go Cephiro mode on me.


If Koshi is heading out for the night, I'm just gonna chime in now.

Koshi's big analysis post reads pretty scummy to me. His mafia reads seem pretty sincere and thought out, but his town reads are very short. Whether or not he believes them himself is not evident, but it doesn't convey much to the reader. My initial thinking is that his townreads serve to 'bulk' up his post. I've seen a lot of mafia in previous games iterate through people and give a quick impression of them without a well thought out read on them. This gives the impression that they are active and their posts are longer without actually having to do a lot of investigation.

What strikes me odd was his next post:

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 08:16 Koshi wrote:
No sorry my towns are town.


Koshi posted this in response to the people that were dismissive of his reads. This is a very important distinction because people react differently when they are opposed by analysis and when they are opposed by a one liner. In this case, most people just posted a quick one liner dismissing him.

From Koshi's perspective, if he just gave out a few quick impressions without a lot of thought, he wouldn't have any sort of attachment or loyalty to his post. His response to the critics would be something like "Those were just my gut feelings at the moment, they may change by the end of the day". Instead, he dismissed the critics with a one liner post containing no new information by posting "No sorry my towns are town". It may be hard to read into on forum mafia, but to me he sounds a bit frustrated and doesn't feel his critics doesn't deserve any more than a one liner. If this is the case, then Koshi has some genuine belief of his townreads, and regardless of the quality of his reads or how he conveyed them, this seems more town to me.

tl;dr I disagree with Koshi's townreads, even though I am among them; I disagree with Sandroba that Koshi is mafia.


I don't get CR's goal with his postings. he comes to no conclusion, just that some post made koshi scummy but his next post made him more town. So is he mafia or town for CR at this point?

I care not that CR is posting intelligently (this is a good thing!!!), but there's a bunch of text with seemingly no bite involved atm

yes, i agree with this i think.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 11 2014 09:36 GMT
#1042
I'm not going to keep my vote off of anyone... I will have it out somewhere at all times... Sheeping Foolishness/Mattchew as they are very good players... problem is they're just as good as maf as town but more likely to be very good town mathematically and a good place to rest my vote in case my internet goes out
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 11 2014 09:41 GMT
#1043
On June 11 2014 12:29 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 12:27 Rainbows wrote:
Also if slam is going to go full chupazi this game, somebody please vig him.


Roger, roger.

+ Show Spoiler +
cya Thursday!

##unvote
##vote: HolyFlare
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 11 2014 09:42 GMT
#1044
On June 11 2014 18:36 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 12:51 Rainbows wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 09:20 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 08:53 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 11 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote:
I voted Tica because I dislike him more. More words does not equal bigger scumread.

I still think my post was pretty good. Reason:
I think my towns are town.
My questionables good pressures points.

I will continue my quest tomorrow.


His recent posts backing up your wolf lean on him? How do you feel about Marv/Sandroba/JaT not liking your post at all? You think thats alignment indicative for any of them?

Also You're doing a poor job of try harding if you make one post a day. Please don't go Cephiro mode on me.


If Koshi is heading out for the night, I'm just gonna chime in now.

Koshi's big analysis post reads pretty scummy to me. His mafia reads seem pretty sincere and thought out, but his town reads are very short. Whether or not he believes them himself is not evident, but it doesn't convey much to the reader. My initial thinking is that his townreads serve to 'bulk' up his post. I've seen a lot of mafia in previous games iterate through people and give a quick impression of them without a well thought out read on them. This gives the impression that they are active and their posts are longer without actually having to do a lot of investigation.

What strikes me odd was his next post:

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 08:16 Koshi wrote:
No sorry my towns are town.


Koshi posted this in response to the people that were dismissive of his reads. This is a very important distinction because people react differently when they are opposed by analysis and when they are opposed by a one liner. In this case, most people just posted a quick one liner dismissing him.

From Koshi's perspective, if he just gave out a few quick impressions without a lot of thought, he wouldn't have any sort of attachment or loyalty to his post. His response to the critics would be something like "Those were just my gut feelings at the moment, they may change by the end of the day". Instead, he dismissed the critics with a one liner post containing no new information by posting "No sorry my towns are town". It may be hard to read into on forum mafia, but to me he sounds a bit frustrated and doesn't feel his critics doesn't deserve any more than a one liner. If this is the case, then Koshi has some genuine belief of his townreads, and regardless of the quality of his reads or how he conveyed them, this seems more town to me.

tl;dr I disagree with Koshi's townreads, even though I am among them; I disagree with Sandroba that Koshi is mafia.


I don't get CR's goal with his postings. he comes to no conclusion, just that some post made koshi scummy but his next post made him more town. So is he mafia or town for CR at this point?

I care not that CR is posting intelligently (this is a good thing!!!), but there's a bunch of text with seemingly no bite involved atm

yes, i agree with this i think.


I read through 30+ pages of 'stuff' and the huge post by koshi and the reads off koshi's posts were striking to me.

CR seems like trying to earn some towncred by pointing out koshi first, so that in the future he can use this as a reference to how towny he is.

Town totem: Chrom, batsnacks.

Everyone else is hard to read. They make towny posts, then destroy their own image by making themselves look scummy.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 09:44 GMT
#1045
On June 11 2014 18:36 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 12:51 Rainbows wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 09:20 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 08:53 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 11 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote:
I voted Tica because I dislike him more. More words does not equal bigger scumread.

I still think my post was pretty good. Reason:
I think my towns are town.
My questionables good pressures points.

I will continue my quest tomorrow.


His recent posts backing up your wolf lean on him? How do you feel about Marv/Sandroba/JaT not liking your post at all? You think thats alignment indicative for any of them?

Also You're doing a poor job of try harding if you make one post a day. Please don't go Cephiro mode on me.


If Koshi is heading out for the night, I'm just gonna chime in now.

Koshi's big analysis post reads pretty scummy to me. His mafia reads seem pretty sincere and thought out, but his town reads are very short. Whether or not he believes them himself is not evident, but it doesn't convey much to the reader. My initial thinking is that his townreads serve to 'bulk' up his post. I've seen a lot of mafia in previous games iterate through people and give a quick impression of them without a well thought out read on them. This gives the impression that they are active and their posts are longer without actually having to do a lot of investigation.

What strikes me odd was his next post:

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 08:16 Koshi wrote:
No sorry my towns are town.


Koshi posted this in response to the people that were dismissive of his reads. This is a very important distinction because people react differently when they are opposed by analysis and when they are opposed by a one liner. In this case, most people just posted a quick one liner dismissing him.

From Koshi's perspective, if he just gave out a few quick impressions without a lot of thought, he wouldn't have any sort of attachment or loyalty to his post. His response to the critics would be something like "Those were just my gut feelings at the moment, they may change by the end of the day". Instead, he dismissed the critics with a one liner post containing no new information by posting "No sorry my towns are town". It may be hard to read into on forum mafia, but to me he sounds a bit frustrated and doesn't feel his critics doesn't deserve any more than a one liner. If this is the case, then Koshi has some genuine belief of his townreads, and regardless of the quality of his reads or how he conveyed them, this seems more town to me.

tl;dr I disagree with Koshi's townreads, even though I am among them; I disagree with Sandroba that Koshi is mafia.


I don't get CR's goal with his postings. he comes to no conclusion, just that some post made koshi scummy but his next post made him more town. So is he mafia or town for CR at this point?

I care not that CR is posting intelligently (this is a good thing!!!), but there's a bunch of text with seemingly no bite involved atm

yes, i agree with this i think.

to clarify, specifically i don't like the bolded bits in the CR post, how it introduces itself and how it ends. Though i'm not particularly sure what i make of it right now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 11 2014 09:47 GMT
#1046
##Vote: Koshi

I'll settle with a d1 koshi lynch until someone posts more scummy than koshi
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 11 2014 09:48 GMT
#1047
On June 11 2014 13:30 Chairman Ray wrote:
Okay okay, I withdraw my statement. No need to read it. I'll come up with short and punchy things from now on.

dude, no. Keep posting exactly how you're posting. Players like batsnacks and obi are really trolly people who don't read the game as either alignment and need to be policy lynched/vigged.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 09:49 GMT
#1048
lol. that's a bit mean.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2014 09:52 GMT
#1049
Shoot first. Ask questions later.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 09:53 GMT
#1050
that's been my dating policy for years
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 11 2014 09:54 GMT
#1051
Batsnacks would make a bad policeman
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 11 2014 09:57 GMT
#1052
On June 11 2014 12:17 TicaTica wrote:
Is Rainbows around still? If he be, then peeky at batsnacks. His read post looks being rather off. Four Fifth of his null read are "easy pickings" read. His four wolfy reads are dastardly off base being my opinion (exception perhaps Chairman Ray). Only one of wolfy reads is even developed which being tehpoofter and the mindset is quite hmmmm unique. His reads look very fishing to me. What is your take?

agreed mon
i believe him to be fabricating things while having been lurking
perhaps he is misguided town tho i am null on him overall

On June 11 2014 14:28 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Finally caught up. The conclusions i've come up with are...that i need to go filter diving, thing is it's 6am here and i'm too tired to focus on anything properly atm so you'll have to wait for me to post proper reads.

Having said that here's a proper read. Exo (or is it EvO?) is town. Scum wouldn't be stupid enough to point out someone was breadcrumbing a power role in the thread and seeing as he's proved that he's a noob he wouldn't be smart enough to know the WIFOM potential of pointing it out as scum either.

disagree

i typically play a "too dumb to be scum" style when i don't follow the setup, and TL has a lot of information to filter through to figure things out (which even i've yet to do)

On June 11 2014 15:39 mattisfoolish wrote:
##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh

It's a good one

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 14:59 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 11 2014 12:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 11 2014 11:52 roundabound wrote:
Holy shit lynch Ketomai next


we can just lynch him today, though.


We could!

##unvote

##Vote Ketomai

I'm also not opposed to this train.

~Foolishness

I'm glad I had already unvoted this before I came to it.
This feels like Scum-Foolishness posting something/anything + laying down a vote to coast into Day 2.
#meta
#fos
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 11 2014 10:08 GMT
#1053
im liking batsnacks more on pages 50-51. seems more conversational, and thoughtful

starting to dislike poofter, as his "what would I do as maf?" line of thought/questioning appears/feels scummy to me.

i don't care how mean it sounds. having a smurf who says they're a smurf in the game after being hypocritical and controversial while remaining blended in the background like obi is doing is ridiculous

if he doesn't start making longer posts that contribute more i will continue to consider him a useless lurker that is in the tier of someone you keep talking about as being a bad player, marv
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 10:09 GMT
#1054
I only called yamato terrible because he should know better.

btw how do you be "controversial" as well as "blended in the background"?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 11 2014 10:12 GMT
#1055
By being so controversal, you're ultimately ignored and become blended into the crowds of foolishness?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 10:13 GMT
#1056
On June 11 2014 19:12 HaruRH wrote:
By being so controversal, you're ultimately ignored and become blended into the crowds of foolishness?

I wasn't looking for a philosophical answer, but thx Haru :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 11 2014 10:18 GMT
#1057
On June 11 2014 19:09 marvellosity wrote:
I only called yamato terrible because he should know better.

btw how do you be "controversial" as well as "blended in the background"?

by coming out and making snippy comments, stirring the pot, then going AFK

On June 11 2014 19:12 HaruRH wrote:
By being so controversal, you're ultimately ignored and become blended into the crowds of foolishness?

yeah, and it promotes the grasping of straws

he then works on his image "oh, i'm a smurf, you guys"

I really wouldn't mind lynching him, but there are better lynches, like Koshi, whose Tryhard post put his neck on the line/chopping block and didn't sit well with like 5 people thusfar... I need to comment on this, or I will burst from the inside


I don't want to lynch Koshi for his post, because at least it was a consolidated effort, and it's the thought that counts, but I don't like his reads, which I feel were forced, nor do I like the content included within those reads. To further this point, I feel like his FoS + Vote on different people (he had a big case on 1, then votes the other) is very scummy, and indicative of scum FoSing their partner while voting someone else
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 10:19 GMT
#1058
On June 11 2014 19:18 Bill Murray wrote:

I don't want to lynch Koshi for his post, because at least it was a consolidated effort, and it's the thought that counts, but I don't like his reads, which I feel were forced, nor do I like the content included within those reads. To further this point, I feel like his FoS + Vote on different people (he had a big case on 1, then votes the other) is very scummy, and indicative of scum FoSing their partner while voting someone else

ummmmm...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 11 2014 10:21 GMT
#1059
UMM, WHAT?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 10:21 GMT
#1060
"I don't want to lynch Koshi, but here are multiple reasons I find him extremely suspicious"

riiiiiight.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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