TL 'Order' LXVI Mafia - Page 55

-I don’t think I’ve verbalized my intuition fully on Vayne so here goes: Terrible filter, fits mafia profile (deduced from atmosphere/limited interference in lynches) exactly. Ever present but barely playing. Constantly complains about the thread quality but spends all of his time talking about blue roles and irrelevant nonsense, which is a massive incongruency. Caller’s point quoted above is also very good.

On June 11 2014 07:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
alrighty well the thread is already too long so I just skipped it, I assume its mostly early game spam. I'll start reading from this point on.

On June 11 2014 09:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
this game is giving me a migraine ill let you know when i start reading it again

On June 11 2014 20:46 yamato77 wrote:
I'll quote Ver's analysis RE: VA



And what has he done so far this game?




While I agree with the sentiment expressed, it's still the same sort of hypocritical nonsense that Ver so accurately pointed out. VA as mafia loves to complain and argue about pointless shit. VA as town would have just posted what he thought about someone/something, right or wrong, and been done with it.

Of course, it's only two posts, but it's a solid lead.

##Vote: VayneAuthority

I'll be looking at Koshi and Chairman more in depth soon. I think they are town, but there is sentiment expressed that this is not the case, and I wish to solve the matter.

On June 11 2014 20:46 Holyflare wrote:
The pressure votes, overwhelming.

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On June 11 2014 20:49 marvellosity wrote:

you're completely missing the 2nd half of Ver's analysis, i.e. spending all his time talking about roles and other shit, which is the massive incongruency, and the incongruency is why he was mafia. That incongruency doesn't exist here because he's not doing anything else either. So using Ver to back up your read is pretty dodgerific

On June 11 2014 20:53 Holyflare wrote:
I have law exams that end tomorrow yamato

On June 11 2014 20:53 yamato77 wrote:

That doesn't mean you aren't mafia anyway.

On June 11 2014 20:53 marvellosity wrote:
then you're still fucking terrible.

On June 11 2014 20:55 Holyflare wrote:


Silly sausage! If i don't post it's because i have a reason

On June 11 2014 20:56 yamato77 wrote:

We'll see.

On June 11 2014 20:59 Holyflare wrote:


Well no because now if i return with try hard you will say "see! Classic mafia". If i don't you'll say "he doesn't care, classic mafia!"

If you're going to use meta don't use unequivocally wrong ones. Or you can just be mafia and continue with it.

On June 11 2014 19:25 Bill Murray wrote:
It's what I feel. I don't want to lynch him because "at least he tried" but i find him really fucking scummy for the way he's acted thusfar. He doesn't have enough content for me to want to lynch, versus someone who is like Ketomai and feels scummier/sheepy but then again is he just trying to latch onto a case? i couldnt blame him for sheeping me

On June 11 2014 20:56 yamato77 wrote:

There still exists an incongruity. Vayne is complaining about the quality of the game yet is actually making it worse with the way he posts.

Vayne's towngame does not consist of complaint posts. He doesn't care about the state of the thread when he's town. He just plays the game.

On June 11 2014 20:46 yamato77 wrote:
I'll quote Ver's analysis RE: VA



And what has he done so far this game?




While I agree with the sentiment expressed, it's still the same sort of hypocritical nonsense that Ver so accurately pointed out. VA as mafia loves to complain and argue about pointless shit. VA as town would have just posted what he thought about someone/something, right or wrong, and been done with it.

Of course, it's only two posts, but it's a solid lead.

##Vote: VayneAuthority

I'll be looking at Koshi and Chairman more in depth soon. I think they are town, but there is sentiment expressed that this is not the case, and I wish to solve the matter.

On June 11 2014 20:52 yamato77 wrote:

Oh yeah, by the way, this is exactly what mafia Holyflare does. He afks for most of the early game, and then comes in later with all his tryhard worked up. See Survivor for a perfect example. I theorize that he does this as mafia because he finds it difficult to post early on as mafia (which is a tricky thing to do convincingly), so he just skips it, takes the heat for being afk, and then makes up for it with his ability to post long posts full of reasonable-sounding things later on.

He could be legitimately busy, but his posts show he's obviously reading the thread, just not actively participating. Regardless of the manner of his return, he is definitely up there in terms of mafia candidates for this sort of play, simply given his history with this exact pattern.

On June 11 2014 20:53 yamato77 wrote:

I really have no interest in your opinion.

On June 11 2014 20:53 yamato77 wrote:

That doesn't mean you aren't mafia anyway.

On June 11 2014 20:56 yamato77 wrote:

There still exists an incongruity. Vayne is complaining about the quality of the game yet is actually making it worse with the way he posts.

Vayne's towngame does not consist of complaint posts. He doesn't care about the state of the thread when he's town. He just plays the game.

-I don’t think I’ve verbalized my intuition fully on Vayne so here goes: Terrible filter, fits mafia profile (deduced from atmosphere/limited interference in lynches) exactly. Ever present but barely playing. Constantly complains about the thread quality but spends all of his time talking about blue roles and irrelevant nonsense, which is a massive incongruency. Caller’s point quoted above is also very good.

On June 11 2014 21:04 yamato77 wrote:

If you don't have time to play, then why are you arguing with me about your alignment right now?

I don't have to believe your reasons for your inactivity. And no, my analysis of your play so far involves no catch-22, because your being afk as mafia happens exclusively in the early game. Later in the game, you obviously play legitimately. You might be afk early on as town and then come back and play legitimately. But noting the pattern is important because it's a 30 player game, so I need to narrow my focus down to a small enough range of people to where I really don't have to analyze every post.

On June 11 2014 21:04 yamato77 wrote:
tl;dr I'm watching you, HF

On June 11 2014 21:08 justanothertownie wrote:

Just to clarify: are you saying ketomai has more content than koshi or are you saying there isn't enough content from koshi and you want to lynch ketomai instead for different reasons?

I am not sure if I can agree with this statement.