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On June 13 2014 15:16 Holyflare wrote:
exo is this your first forum game?
on TL forums at least. The people here take it wayyy more seriously than I'm used to lol
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On phone right now so my post will be short. I know I might be a bit late on this, but isn't slam a good bet to be mafia? His voting is similar to KotC, and he stays off of the KotC bandwagon. He's got a big post count of largely spammy stuff and other small tidbits. The selling points for me are he was on the SnB bandwagon and although he appears to be very active, doesn't seem interested in participating in actual discussions.
There are some others I'd like to look in to but right now Slam sticks out for me.
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On June 14 2014 16:14 gumshoe wrote:
Helop, surprisingly I have a pretty good excuse for my ludicrously long absence buuuuut people hate excuses so I'll just get back into it, I've reconsidered chair man, I liked his explanation/defence. It makes more sense that he was just trying to figure stuff out as opposed to try and start a fire. As a result I'm fine with lynching haru purely because he jumped on the case I made right away despite having only made a single comment against cr in passing a while back. On another note, noes around the time I expect Exo to solve the game given how much he's hyped his quality over quantity reads so looking forward to that.
@.@ was it really necessary to take a cheap shot like that at me?
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I've taken the time to go back over the end of the day 1 voting, looking for things that might stick out. I think Alakaslam still might be mafia, but I'm not as convinced as I first was when I was reading on my phone. He might just be a spammy bastard.
But I think Chromatically is mafia.
At June 12 2014 13:31 Chrom votes ritoky. At this point the train on KotC is in full swing, and he's up to 9 votes. It's looking like he's going to be lynched. 2 Hours prior however, the vote count was only at 4 for KotC. So a lot of votes moved all at once. 1 hour later at June 12 2014 14:31 Chrom hops on the train.
What's interesting is Chrom's posts in this one hour block.
Before I get to the hour block, lets take a look at some of Chrom's earlier posts. His first vote on Sinani is preceded by this:
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. ##Vote: sinani206
It almost seems like a sarcastic joke to me at first, to vote Sinani for such an arbitrary reason. Going from page 1-2 of his filter though, he continues to push Sinani pretty hard. Koshi notices this, and calls him Chrom out on it. Chrom clams up after this, asking Yamato for a read on himself. To me this seems like a concerned mafia. The real gold comes after that though:
On June 11 2014 10:19 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 10:11 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 10:03 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:Town, or not lynchable till D3 for myself:ObiWanShinobi: Looks fine for now. Till I found everybody town he is town. + fast vote (not quoted). + optimism about fast vote (not quoted). + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
batsnacks is the confirmed town hero for finding palmar so early.
im just gonna sheep him forever. On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. On June 11 2014 05:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:50 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote:
first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first
therefore the first six people to post are scum
gg Try English. And Logic. But, like, seriously, like, what does this, like, even, like, mean?.....Like roundabout, posting from what appears to be one of the moons of jupiter. very interesting. hows the weather up there? On June 11 2014 05:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:53 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
fuck i got town again. Gonna have to CC you hear I also rolled town. hi im poofter and i cannot english someone help : Not an awkward entrance. I am cool with CR. Also a case that looks coming from town . + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:52 Chairman Ray wrote:
Not everyone who townclaimed is town. I see them posting in my mafia QT. Stop lying guys. On June 11 2014 06:43 Chairman Ray wrote:First scumread for me: roundabound Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well. ##Vote: Roundaboud I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play. The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:08 roundabound wrote:
Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time. I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me  . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks. : Town for being around joyfully. This post is unlikely comming from scumPoofter. First it is totally random, secondly he promises to spam: + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:03 Tehpoofter wrote:Speaking of Wolves and Villages. This Game Recently got to 28000 Posts over on 2p2 we can easily beat that number. We just need to channel are inner spamming, Think Holyflare/Steveling but with ADHD and no sleep schedule. Thats my goal this game. : Not on the lynchtable because is progressing the game. Could be more friendly while doing so though. I do not agree with some of the points he makes and I saw him completely missinterpret a post. But I do'n't think he is scum purposely shitting up the thread so he is town for now. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. On June 11 2014 05:53 roundabound wrote:This is a really weird reaction from Palmar. If he claims to want to be mafia and rolls town, I think the reaction would be "fuck, I rolled town this sucks", not "fuck I got my role". Obviously he can't just say "SWEET, I GOT MAFIA," but I feel like he'd express more disappointment about rolling town after the first post. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:41 Palmar wrote:On June 11 2014 05:30 batsnacks wrote:
I didn't get my role yet. Scumclaim. I know I'm mafia because I requested it and I also know I haven't received my role, so I can only assume that mafia gets roles sent last. Nailed you, bitch. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:45 Palmar wrote:
Fuck I got my role. I don't even know what it does. brb. On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. On June 11 2014 06:27 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared. Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote : Chromatically: I don't like how he entered the thread. I don't like how he pushing sinani so hard. I don't like it because I don't see it. I can see the point he makes about entering the game with a pointless question trying to blend in. But I don't like how Chrom is blowing these questions up trying to twist it into mafia mindset. Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No. The question he asked JAT wasn't what Chrom is making it out to be. It was a pretty legit question. Somebody votes for Robik --> Robik replies --> Somebody says Robik is overdefensive --> sinani doesn't agree that Robik was overdefensive. I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him. tldr: Awkward entrance + Too strong scumread. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote:
first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first
therefore the first six people to post are scum
gg On June 11 2014 05:50 Chromatically wrote:
Oh yeah I'm also town, in case anyone was wondering.
Now we just need the rest of the game to claim and we should be good. On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. ##Vote: sinani206 : Entrance to the thread with a soft defense, a one-liner that looks extremely hard like an attempt to get towncred from those who he defends. the intention behind the entire post screams: Hi guys, I am town because I am helping. The buddying with marv makes me uncomfortable. Rest of filter is filler. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:49 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 Nisani und sinani be known lurkers irregardless of randed roll. On June 11 2014 06:54 TicaTica wrote:
Marvelocity potential is villagery. Would be benefit if hydra heads were both to talk. Plammer is inherent wolfy. On June 11 2014 07:06 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 07:04 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 07:00 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:57 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:56 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani what do you think of JAT? Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red. In this post sinani basically gives a null read on me. His reasoning can be used for almost 100 % of the players in this game. I think he added the part with the "chance of being red" to create the illusion that his question towards me had something to do with scumhunting -> tries to get Chrom off his ass. and therefore your conclusion? I think it's kinda scummy. I tend to agree, "if he keeps this up i can see a chance of him being red" is like so many layers of qualifiers :p on the other hand i'm pretty taken aback that sinani is posting volumously at all. that's a turn up for the books. Well, is it alignment indicative though? I never played with him afaik. well i'd expect a mafia-sinani not to bother. that's like a teensy lean though. Am surprised your not pushing this thought more. -villagry points to mar velocity. Wow. Your scumread on me is not even a scumread. You listed a bunch of things I did that you didn't like or disagreed with. What you did not do is explain how they make me scum. You "didn't like my entrance"- how does that make me scum? You actually say that you disagree with my scumread- how does that make me scum? Even when you're talking about how you disagree with my scumread, you don't quote the case and look at what parts of it you think could come from scum, you just mention why you disagree with some parts of it. And then you basically make up the part where I was "asking everyone to sheep me", because I was making a deliberate point of not doing that (I asked marv because I wanted his opinion, but I'm not going around asking people to start a wagon). I don't see at all how your points lead you to think I'm scum. What do you think of Koshi's alignment? Is he making this post as a villager or a wolf? I want to see his explanation of his read on me. Right now, it looks like he's not actually thinking about who's scummy, more about what things he can throw suspicion on. As town, he would be worried about why the things I've done make me scum, but as mafia, he would be happy to give out a read where he just says things he doesn't like (regardless of mafia motivation). The thing I'm worried about is that, as scum, he would be more wary of giving out townreads with such shoddy reasoning in such a blatant way, because it draws attention to himself. So explanation.
Sound familiar? It seems to me he did to Sinani exactly what he said Koshi was doing to him. After this going from page 2-3 on his filter, he continues to freak out at Koshi a bit. Just like with Yamato, he asks Koshi about Koshi's read on himself. To me, it looks like Chrom is very worried about what everyone thinks about him. Regarding Koshi, he even goes on to say:
On June 12 2014 01:53 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 01:21 Koshi wrote:
I am not even pushing for his lynch. Sorry I dared to say something bad about him. Sorry for trying to pressure him.
I GOT IT CHROM
I AM NOT ALLOWED TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT YOU.
SORRY BRO
OUTRAAAAGGGGEEEEE. My point in asking that question was that this does not sound like someone talking to their scumread. This sounds like he thinks I'm town.Think about it. If you're town and your scumread posts a big case on you claiming that you're misrepresenting them and trying to get you lynched, you're probably going to be mad/attack back and defend yourself. You wouldn't jokingly apologize to your scumread for pushing them, when you think they're scum trying to mislynch you.
He's literally putting words into Koshi's mouth, saying that he's town. The banter with Koshi goes on for a little bit, and he starts asking for reads on Koshi. At the bottom of page 3 of his filter he says:
On June 12 2014 09:28 Chromatically wrote:
I'm going to see what people are on about with ketomai because I didn't really get it when he was in the thread.
Followed by:
On June 12 2014 09:41 Chromatically wrote:
I think ketomai totally depends on what he posts next. The thing that happened in thread could have easily been a townie startled by people jumping on him before he starts playing. I agree that it's weird that he feels like he has to vote between round and Exo, but it's not really scummy..? He could have easily left his vote on himself and that would draw less attention.
What he posts next is the important part.
This part isn't super relevant to my case, but I'm pointing it out here in case my case turns out to be correct. Ketomai has been suspected quite a bit, and here Chrom isn't exactly defending him but he is lightly trying to divert attention off of Ketomai. He's not joining any trains of thought against Keto though.
Right before the "magic hour" I referred to earlier, we see Chrom trying to divert away from cats with:
On June 13 2014 03:05 Chromatically wrote:
Can't we just lynch ritoky?
and
On June 13 2014 03:12 Chromatically wrote:
The case on Cats is good but it basically relies on him being experienced/good. He could be actually new or just really bad. ritoky has done things that are scum-motivated, not just bad. I'll consolidate my case because I think I wasn't very clear yesterday.
That's just about all he had to say about cats, sorta in what I would call a "yeah yeah, but!" fashion. He doesn't want to say the case against cats is bad, but he doesn't want to encourage it either, and I think this post is a great way to try to push another case while acknowledging the cats case as little as possible.
So we finally get to this hour. I understand at this point the voting is nearing its end. But chrom posts 12 times, his biggest concentration of posts yet. I won't quote all 12 posts, you can eaisly find them on his filter and they're going to clog this already clogged post. From 13:31 to 14:11 he was heavily pushing ritoky, I think in a desperate attempt to get the focus off king and onto somebody else. He gave it one last effort here:
On June 13 2014 04:11 Chromatically wrote:
It's not even worth it for me to push for ritoky if people don't want to go for it but I just think the case is watertight.
But after this point I think he and the mafia saw the writing on the wall. So after 14:11 it's damage control mode.
On June 13 2014 04:26 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 04:15 Holyflare wrote:
chrom your ritoky case applies to half the people in the game, why is ritoky pushing on you and sometimes mz different from kotc pushing on batsnacks for the worst reasons known to man? why you push yours over sheep? why you want to be so speshul? It doesn't though. The whole point is that ritoky isn't actually pushing on me. He's not trying to get me lynched at all. He just doesn't post about anything other than me, which is super scummy. AND he always responds to questions at him but never does anything. I'm trying to show the active lurking thing with quotes but I can't figure out how the timestamps work. It's something I noticed when I was talking to him. I would say something and he would immediately respond, and then some time later I would say something and he would immediately respond, but post nothing in the meantime. Someone else noticed it too (I thought it was JAT but it's not in his filter), I can't find the quote. I'm not going to defend Cats because he's pretty awful too. I just think my case is like a surefire scum lynch. No town does the things that ritoky does.
On June 13 2014 04:28 Chromatically wrote:
case on Cats >>> case on Kush
Kush is like a 100% coinflip, he's just one of the people not playing.
On June 13 2014 04:31 Chromatically wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: TheKingOfTheCats
Half an hour left and ritoky's not happening.
I'll look at kush's meta and stuff but I really doubt he's going to be a better lynch today.
I think after 14:11, Chrom accepted that he was going to lose a teammate and decided that transitioning to the KotC wagon was his best move to stay alive. He never really says why he agrees with the KotC case, or anything about it really. Not even in the same ballpark as how much he said about Ritoky. Based on what I've presented here, I think we should lynch Chrom next. I'm not 100% sure, but short of being the seer I don't think there is a 100% sure in this game. Perhaps I'm naive in thinking mafia would switch an obvious mafia vote once it was determined it was unavoidable that mafia would die. But I think I'd try to do something similar if I was mafia, especially on the day 1 lynch. So that's my piece, let me know what you think. I think if you read chrom's filter since the lynching, he's pretty obviously trying to divert people from suspecting him. But for a townie, he sure is thinking an awful lot like a mafia.
##Vote Chromatically
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On June 14 2014 17:14 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 16:21 ExO_ wrote:On June 14 2014 16:14 gumshoe wrote:
Helop, surprisingly I have a pretty good excuse for my ludicrously long absence buuuuut people hate excuses so I'll just get back into it, I've reconsidered chair man, I liked his explanation/defence. It makes more sense that he was just trying to figure stuff out as opposed to try and start a fire. As a result I'm fine with lynching haru purely because he jumped on the case I made right away despite having only made a single comment against cr in passing a while back. On another note, noes around the time I expect Exo to solve the game given how much he's hyped his quality over quantity reads so looking forward to that. @.@ was it really necessary to take a cheap shot like that at me? yes
Dun know what you're big problem is with me, but I don't see you doing a whole lot. I've never claimed to be great or that I'm going to be able to solve the game. Please, let me here some great wisdom from gumshoe. If you're going to call me out, Let's see what you have to say.
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On June 15 2014 07:11 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2014 07:03 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 15 2014 06:55 Rainbows wrote:Hey guys, I'm back. I was about to go examine some other people to hopefully get the tunnel vision off, but then I saw Haru posted this reply: On June 15 2014 04:18 HaruRH wrote:
LCS or World Cup... the decision is very real....
So I just want to wait to see if rainbows is willing to let go, if he is ,I will do so too. SCUM! Haru only wants to let go if I don't threaten to lynch him. This is NOT TOWNIE. Haru is too concerned with self-preservation. He is attempting to bargain with me so that he can live. "As long as you don't call me scum and try to lynch me, I'll do the same". His scumread on me is not predicated on thinking I'm mafia -- if it were, he would not care if I am simultaneously pressuring him. If he wanted to let go, he would just let go. He is mafia that doesn't want to be in the spotlight anymore. SHINE SHINE MUTHAFUCKA I am not your buddy Haru. You may be sexy and attractive but you are not my friend, pal. SCUM. DIE. EVERYBODY VOTE HARU. HE IS MAFIA. I'd like to see Haru respond to this. Why is your read on Rainbows contingent on his read on you? @ Rainbows You have any other wolf reads besides Haru? I agree that is a really wolfy thing for Haru to say like he only reads you wolf for pressuring him. I will oblige you in diction. I read Exo slightly as wolf. Part of me can't put a finger on it--but KotC townread him for no reason at the beginning of D1. He had a case on Chrom who I believe is town. His day 1 play was lackluster from what I remember. SnB is slightly more townie after the lynch, but I'm still suspicious of his inactivity and ability to do nothing today (after all--if he is town, he possesses the greatest amount of information right now, besides mafia or an alignment cop i suppose). Sandro and Matt I'm lumping together in a "would lynch because not doing much" label. I actually don't want to touch Kush right now cus cats wanted to lynch him I believe (noob scum probably dont bus, eh?). CR hasn't done anything besides say 'hey man, i like what you said about haru' today, and his play d1 i am still weary of. Keto slightly wolf as well but I won't give him a reason so he can complain about me not giving a reason :p
only doing what I can. My case on chrom has been largely ignored without anybody giving me feedback either way. If the case is bad I'd like to know why, because I think it's quite good. Not perfect, but it's better than the other cases I've seen so far. You pointed out kotc called me town day 1: this is exactly what marv noticed. He said its more likely for a mafia to call a town a town than for a mafia to call a mafia a town. So who's conclusion is right?
Perhaps I'm taking being accused a little too personally, but I don't think I look wolfy at all, and don't like being called it.
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##unvote
##vote kush
joining Kush because I still believe in what I said day 1. I'm a little miffed at how I was ignored when I was actively trying to contribute and figure out how to improve my game to detect mafia, and then ignored again when I asked for somebody to point out the flaws in my case. But whatever Kush is the best bet here out of the candidates.
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On June 16 2014 05:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
shoot exo if you have KP you have the vayne guarantee
lol, yeah that makes a lot of sense
:rolleyes:
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marv day 1 you were able to figure out KotC was mafia. But today I didn't seem like you had the same edge as you did day 1, and you didn't really lead like you did day 1. What happened? No great reads? Less interest in the game, or time for the game?
I'm not saying I think your scum, but after day 1 I find your day 2 play really, really odd and would like an explanation.
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I mean I'm around but I don't have much else to say
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On June 16 2014 10:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
Updating where my reads are atm on everyone.
Village: Tehpoofter
Marv - obv, lock clear if he is a wolf we probably already lost
Koshi - stepped it up considerably day 2 claiming vigi
Roundabound - Casing my biggest wolf in ketomai, tone read on robik seems to be working on the village side
Slam - sticking with my gut on slam probably least sure about this read
ExO - Not use to the meta needs to step up more tonight/tomorrow if he wants to stay here he says he needs vote to analyse there has been plenty of that now
ObiWanSmurf - Seemed to be following along at EoD and actively wanting to figure out who to kill actions seem to favor village.
VA - Tried today a little bit seems to care at least moderately about the game and isn't just randomly throwing his vote on someone and afking for 48 hours
Bunnies - replaced erradorr seems to have read up on the game and know where the thread is at. I find it hard for a wolf to replace into this spot and come out free talking like she is but her wolf game does fall off so look at her a bit tomorrow or the next day
JAT - needs to stop sheeping marv only and find someone he thinks is wolf for his reasons. Lowest on the list because of a bit of weird interaction day 1 following marv's case on KoTC
People who could be villagers:
TicaTica - pushed hard on Haru at EoD if yamato is wolf insta lynch if yamato village he is okay until his EoD day 2 he was in the village not too worried but not green green.
Rainbows - Tunneled a village that I read as wolf so good line of thinking but could be wolf pushing on a village would like to see where his reads are now
Kush - kush is a hard read sounds like we might not need to worry about what alignment he is after tonight but if he lives need some improvement on activity.
Chromatically - was going strong day one but has ended up off the wagon voting wise would love to see him EOD doing things as well as sticking out a bit more to me. I had him as village pretty hard day 1 but starting to think Koshi might be GOAT and pegged you day 1.
ritoky - a bit too lurky his read on me wasn't awful and I don't blame him for the read although I'd like to see him evolve his reads a little bit more I'm kinda worried of a wolf who is just tunneling on some people unlikely to die to seem involved.
People who need to talk about someone besides Kush:
HF - Play the game your exam is over Kush is perhaps 1 of 5 wolves find the other 4 please.
[pink]People who need to not be donkies with their votes and instead of just afking during EoD actually participate and try to convince other people they're right or wrong for some reason and not just stick a vote on someone and do shit all else:
Batsnacks - I think your comment about your vote is legit one of the silliest things I've ever heard someone say about their voting patterns. Its almost too dumb to come from a wolf but I would still lynch you for it. You need to participate in the votes if you're a villager your vote makes a BIG difference EoD and if the village votes on 2-3 wagons only its harder for wolves to manipulate and makes analysis after we see some flips VERY useful. If you just vote one person and no one else you're not helping village EVEN IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE RIGHT ABOUT THAT ONE PERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I wish there was more colors so I could make you pink) [/pink]
Lurkers that need to post more presumed wolf until proven town: Would kill these people
gumshoe - Day 1 played Day 2 went into full Afk mode step up or step out.
Sandroba - You are suppose to be good, I don't see it afking as wolf is lame your play in catastrophe impressed me. (I will say this you live in brazil if I remember right so if you're involved in the world cup just tell us if that shit was where I live I wouldn't be playing this game I'd be off watching games and enjoying that once in a lifetime experience)
SnB - was the day 1 counterwagon to a wolf I'm most hesitant about lynching you but you need to step up your game or you'll make me start thinking it was Vanilla wolf vs Power Wolf
MattisFoolish - Foolish I expect more tbh the day 1 read on MZ was weak. Your day 2 EoD was pretty good but there is 2 of you and you're really not even doing what 1/2 a person would do. Matt Is also really bad at being a wolf so makes me a bit leery
Sinani206 - I forgot you were in the game until I read the player list. I'm actually going to filter dive you after this and see where I end up you might be in the wrong spot tbh.
yamato77 - Talked to you earlier you perked up for a bit and showed signs of life but thats not enoguh you need to play the game not just sheep marv nad come up with things I've seen you paly before and I know you're capable of helping village out please do so.
Wolves:
Ketomai - I didn't like the way he responded to Round's case yesterday. He also has stated several times before that there was no case on him despite myself making a big case on him including a photo and everything which he ignored. I also don't see his reads evolving like I would expect a town's to evolve. I will be making a much larger case later but this is just a reads post.
Chariman Ray - Vote on erradorr - IS MEGA SKETCHY you don't seemed concerned with solving the game. I will be doing a bit more on him later after Ketomai as well but want to keep this wall of text less wall more text.
poofter I gave a big analysis on chrom, was ignored, asked for feedback and was ignored. I hate to sound like I'm beating a dead horse, but if nobody is gonna give me the time of day to even consider what I say then why bother making a big analysis again. If people thought I was wrong, I wanted feedback on why I was wrong, not silence.
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please don't get the impression I'm not going to play. I fully intend to be here and play. I might not say as much, but I'll still be here. I'm slightly annoyed, but I'll get over it. I'm still going to try to do my best to win for myself and town.
On a side note, watching the video mafia tonight, gonna be taking notes! 
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On June 16 2014 10:27 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 10:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
Updating where my reads are atm on everyone.
Village: Tehpoofter
Marv - obv, lock clear if he is a wolf we probably already lost
Koshi - stepped it up considerably day 2 claiming vigi
Roundabound - Casing my biggest wolf in ketomai, tone read on robik seems to be working on the village side
Slam - sticking with my gut on slam probably least sure about this read
ExO - Not use to the meta needs to step up more tonight/tomorrow if he wants to stay here he says he needs vote to analyse there has been plenty of that now
ObiWanSmurf - Seemed to be following along at EoD and actively wanting to figure out who to kill actions seem to favor village.
VA - Tried today a little bit seems to care at least moderately about the game and isn't just randomly throwing his vote on someone and afking for 48 hours
Bunnies - replaced erradorr seems to have read up on the game and know where the thread is at. I find it hard for a wolf to replace into this spot and come out free talking like she is but her wolf game does fall off so look at her a bit tomorrow or the next day
JAT - needs to stop sheeping marv only and find someone he thinks is wolf for his reasons. Lowest on the list because of a bit of weird interaction day 1 following marv's case on KoTC
People who could be villagers:
TicaTica - pushed hard on Haru at EoD if yamato is wolf insta lynch if yamato village he is okay until his EoD day 2 he was in the village not too worried but not green green.
Rainbows - Tunneled a village that I read as wolf so good line of thinking but could be wolf pushing on a village would like to see where his reads are now
Kush - kush is a hard read sounds like we might not need to worry about what alignment he is after tonight but if he lives need some improvement on activity.
Chromatically - was going strong day one but has ended up off the wagon voting wise would love to see him EOD doing things as well as sticking out a bit more to me. I had him as village pretty hard day 1 but starting to think Koshi might be GOAT and pegged you day 1.
ritoky - a bit too lurky his read on me wasn't awful and I don't blame him for the read although I'd like to see him evolve his reads a little bit more I'm kinda worried of a wolf who is just tunneling on some people unlikely to die to seem involved.
People who need to talk about someone besides Kush:
HF - Play the game your exam is over Kush is perhaps 1 of 5 wolves find the other 4 please.
[pink]People who need to not be donkies with their votes and instead of just afking during EoD actually participate and try to convince other people they're right or wrong for some reason and not just stick a vote on someone and do shit all else:
Batsnacks - I think your comment about your vote is legit one of the silliest things I've ever heard someone say about their voting patterns. Its almost too dumb to come from a wolf but I would still lynch you for it. You need to participate in the votes if you're a villager your vote makes a BIG difference EoD and if the village votes on 2-3 wagons only its harder for wolves to manipulate and makes analysis after we see some flips VERY useful. If you just vote one person and no one else you're not helping village EVEN IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE RIGHT ABOUT THAT ONE PERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I wish there was more colors so I could make you pink) [/pink]
Lurkers that need to post more presumed wolf until proven town: Would kill these people
gumshoe - Day 1 played Day 2 went into full Afk mode step up or step out.
Sandroba - You are suppose to be good, I don't see it afking as wolf is lame your play in catastrophe impressed me. (I will say this you live in brazil if I remember right so if you're involved in the world cup just tell us if that shit was where I live I wouldn't be playing this game I'd be off watching games and enjoying that once in a lifetime experience)
SnB - was the day 1 counterwagon to a wolf I'm most hesitant about lynching you but you need to step up your game or you'll make me start thinking it was Vanilla wolf vs Power Wolf
MattisFoolish - Foolish I expect more tbh the day 1 read on MZ was weak. Your day 2 EoD was pretty good but there is 2 of you and you're really not even doing what 1/2 a person would do. Matt Is also really bad at being a wolf so makes me a bit leery
Sinani206 - I forgot you were in the game until I read the player list. I'm actually going to filter dive you after this and see where I end up you might be in the wrong spot tbh.
yamato77 - Talked to you earlier you perked up for a bit and showed signs of life but thats not enoguh you need to play the game not just sheep marv nad come up with things I've seen you paly before and I know you're capable of helping village out please do so.
Wolves:
Ketomai - I didn't like the way he responded to Round's case yesterday. He also has stated several times before that there was no case on him despite myself making a big case on him including a photo and everything which he ignored. I also don't see his reads evolving like I would expect a town's to evolve. I will be making a much larger case later but this is just a reads post.
Chariman Ray - Vote on erradorr - IS MEGA SKETCHY you don't seemed concerned with solving the game. I will be doing a bit more on him later after Ketomai as well but want to keep this wall of text less wall more text.
Slam: I have no idea how you people are reading him. Exo: Don't really get a townread here and you gave no reasons for it. Explain? Me: Things on my own? Like my KotC read? I was scummy on him before marv. And I certainly won't stop sheeping marv if he keeps going after targets I agree on. MIF: What about their day2 was pretty good? Rest is somewhat ok for me.
What I think about your reads:
Marv: Pretty much agree, though his day 2 is really strange to me. Gonna need to see his day 3.
Koshi: Also agree though sometimes his posts can be...poorly worded? Still likely town
Round: Don't have a really good read
Slam: At the start of day 2 I was leaning mafia on slam. He was spammy, avoided the KotC wagon, and he was a part of the earlier SnB wagon that almost went through. Now I'm not so sure, I haven't really payed too much attention to his day 2 postings. So slightly leaning mafia, but just slightly
Obi: Null
VA: I have no idea what his alignment is but I find his spam to be unhelpful and annoying. I wonder if he actually finds himself funny or is just trolling. Null read, but I don't really like him.
Bunnies: seems nice so far, but have no way of knowing yet
JAT: JAT has been on my ass all game. I have no idea what I did to make him think I'm a wolf, but he has been pushing me for 2 days straight. My knee-jerk reaction is to say that makes him mafia, but I don't think I can do that. He could be town and just really think I'm mafia. So I'm leaning mafia on JAT, but I think my opinion might be biased.
TicaTica: I get a town read off tica, really seems a lot like Koshi to me
Rainbows: I know I should have more of an opinion on him, but he's null for me. I need to read a bit more about the discussion around him.
Kush - Similar to VA, only more of a waste of space. I don't understand if he's town why he's trolling like this, so I'd say mafia or just somebody trolling and not playing to win. Lean mafia
Chrom: Biggest scumread I've had all game
ritoky: null
HF: leaning town. I suspected him a little bit after day 1, but his day 2 play was alright. Looks townie to me
Batsnacks: leaning town, but not by a lot.
Gumshoe: Likely mafia. I'm not sure really what it is, but I think he's paying attention unlike the other lurkers. I think he's lurking mafia
Sandroba: Null
SnB: Null read, but if mafia had one guy nominated only for it to swing to KotC, that just sounds flat out horrible or extremely mind-gamey. So good chance of him being town, but based purely on his play it's a null read
Mattisfoolish: also unsure.
Sinani206: Leaning town, but he's very inactive it seems like. Could be lurking mafia, but I don't get that vibe from him as much.
Yama: Day 1 was leaning mafia, but I think he's back in neutral ground for me.
Ketomai: Perhaps I need to read his filter, but I've never really understood the super strong case for him being a wolf. I didn't really read his stuff closely but I didn't get really feel like he was a scum when he was first defending himself after being accused. I probably need to dive his filter and figure out just why a seemingly large portion of players here think he is scummy
ChairmanRay: I agree. His play day 1 seemed wolfy to me, and the vote today seems wolfy. Likely Mafia.
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Sheeping Marv for now
##Vote: gumshoe
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On June 17 2014 12:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 12:02 roundabound wrote:On June 17 2014 11:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
is there any reason people dont want to kill mif?
i keep bringing him up and everyone is ignoring me. It's pretty much the offchance that they actually pick up their participation and are a valuable asset to town if they're town. Otherwise, they're definitely one of the people that I have expressed interest in. Pretty much same goes for Sandro. But really, if I'm being really really honest, I enjoy playing with sandro/mif more than other lurkers, and that might be why i'm trying to protect them more than other lurkers/scummier folk so we arent going to hold them accountable for playing terribly, whereas gumshoe has a history of not giving a shit? k.
I'd be down to switch votes, but I don't have a better option than sheeping marv at the moment. I really don't like how many people are lurking/spaming useless shit, but there's so many it's hard to know who to go after.
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Finally back home with internet access. What'd I miss xD
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Guess there's no need to change votes at this point.
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On June 19 2014 15:51 Chromatically wrote:
I need to look more into ExO, I thought he was town earlier but then he totally dropped off.
Right now CR and ritoky are my top reads.
I'm keeping up with the thread, but right after I got active it seemed like the game went downhill. Yesterday was a disaster :/
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If we're not gonna go after chrom, then I think CR is a decent lynch. Suspected him since day 1.
##ChairmanRay
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On June 20 2014 06:33 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2014 06:30 ExO_ wrote:
If we're not gonna go after chrom, then I think CR is a decent lynch. Suspected him since day 1.
##ChairmanRay need you to play a bit more than you're playing atm buddy.
I am playing. I tried being super active and talking, and that didn't do anything. The people in charge are the ones making short posts spamming and voting all over the place. That seems to be effective this game, so I think I'll stick to this.
I'll continue to do what I can for town and to win, and I don't see anything else I could post that would help. Or do you want my advice on who I think is mafia and why, because let's face it last time I gave that nothing came of it in the slightest.
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