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roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 09:41 GMT
#4701
On June 20 2014 18:38 Holyflare wrote:
slam is town bro he wont die

wrote him last cos hes my outlier tip

damn near certain on CR, Ketomai, SnB

If we can't get town to go beyond 4 votes on CR; then im fine with the other 2.
Consolidation baby !

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
TicaTica
Profile Joined June 2014
Costa Rica194 Posts
June 20 2014 09:56 GMT
#4702
On June 20 2014 18:02 Holyflare wrote:
also that's a giant wall of text from tica to say everything that's been said already about keta who is pretty much afk and been called out by almost everyone, he also calls NB mafiaesque posting (but doesn't know why) but then in the second paragraph uses her filter to get scum reads???? like dafuk is that

No I was reading her filter to understand why I didn't like her posting. Which led to me wanting to understand her MILF read, which lead me in entirely different directions.

Marv fair point against MILF's townreads but I think most of them are solid.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 20 2014 09:57 GMT
#4703
On June 20 2014 18:56 TicaTica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 18:02 Holyflare wrote:
also that's a giant wall of text from tica to say everything that's been said already about keta who is pretty much afk and been called out by almost everyone, he also calls NB mafiaesque posting (but doesn't know why) but then in the second paragraph uses her filter to get scum reads???? like dafuk is that

No I was reading her filter to understand why I didn't like her posting. Which led to me wanting to understand her MILF read, which lead me in entirely different directions.

Marv fair point against MILF's townreads but I think most of them are solid.



can you explain your reaction to mif lynch?
TicaTica
Profile Joined June 2014
Costa Rica194 Posts
June 20 2014 09:59 GMT
#4704
On June 20 2014 18:02 Holyflare wrote:
i find it odd that he's using foolishness' filter when he didn't play the entire game to find town/mafia reads instead of the people that were NK'd too

Nah, I liked iirc your post re: Palmer's random post. Right now I can't sleep and don't want to dig the thread to find some of that stuff. Fwiw, I don't think many people would NK Banks that early too. NB is an exception to that I think.
TicaTica
Profile Joined June 2014
Costa Rica194 Posts
June 20 2014 09:59 GMT
#4705
On June 20 2014 18:57 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 18:56 TicaTica wrote:
On June 20 2014 18:02 Holyflare wrote:
also that's a giant wall of text from tica to say everything that's been said already about keta who is pretty much afk and been called out by almost everyone, he also calls NB mafiaesque posting (but doesn't know why) but then in the second paragraph uses her filter to get scum reads???? like dafuk is that

No I was reading her filter to understand why I didn't like her posting. Which led to me wanting to understand her MILF read, which lead me in entirely different directions.

Marv fair point against MILF's townreads but I think most of them are solid.



can you explain your reaction to mif lynch?

Which one? Me afking?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 20 2014 10:00 GMT
#4706
On June 20 2014 18:59 TicaTica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 18:57 Holyflare wrote:
On June 20 2014 18:56 TicaTica wrote:
On June 20 2014 18:02 Holyflare wrote:
also that's a giant wall of text from tica to say everything that's been said already about keta who is pretty much afk and been called out by almost everyone, he also calls NB mafiaesque posting (but doesn't know why) but then in the second paragraph uses her filter to get scum reads???? like dafuk is that

No I was reading her filter to understand why I didn't like her posting. Which led to me wanting to understand her MILF read, which lead me in entirely different directions.

Marv fair point against MILF's townreads but I think most of them are solid.



can you explain your reaction to mif lynch?

Which one? Me afking?


On June 20 2014 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 15:34 TicaTica wrote:
I'll be reading for the next hour or two to catchup and reread. If anyone has requests to read you can post them here.


11 hours between catching up for an hour or two and returning and returns to say:

Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 02:09 TicaTica wrote:
I don't see MILF as mafia. Sandroba's going to die regardless likely. CR was the only major thing that stuck out to me last night. His ketomai read was completely nonsense.

Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 04:15 TicaTica wrote:
This will sound stupid but I feel better about not being on MILF. I mean I think he's town but maybe we get a repeat of day 1 if I stay off it.



foolishness was posting in other threads instead of this, he looked mafia-y and there was no real reason to think otherwise! comes out of the blue and says he's probably town and he's better not on him???

lynch plox

TicaTica
Profile Joined June 2014
Costa Rica194 Posts
June 20 2014 10:02 GMT
#4707
On June 20 2014 18:19 roundabound wrote:
OK, so I get Tica is doing a filter dive of all live players (and I suppose some dead)

I want to know Tica position on CR.

Like... I am really surprised we only have 4 votes on CR, I thought this was clear cut.

~moc

Iirc I think he's an ok lynch but I'm not in a mindset to filter him now. I think I had a weird townread on him early though so I'd have to go back and weigh the two.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 20 2014 10:04 GMT
#4708
On June 20 2014 19:02 TicaTica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 18:19 roundabound wrote:
OK, so I get Tica is doing a filter dive of all live players (and I suppose some dead)

I want to know Tica position on CR.

Like... I am really surprised we only have 4 votes on CR, I thought this was clear cut.

~moc

Iirc I think he's an ok lynch but I'm not in a mindset to filter him now. I think I had a weird townread on him early though so I'd have to go back and weigh the two.

In one of the quotes Holy just quoted, you stated that the only thing that jumped out at you was "CR's nonsense read on ketomai"
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
TicaTica
Profile Joined June 2014
Costa Rica194 Posts
June 20 2014 10:08 GMT
#4709
That's just an illogical thing. For the D1 lynch, I didn't really get the point Marv was trying to make but to be honest I also didn't spend a bunch of time trying to figure it out. Marv was a townread and it was on someone I didn't think was a bad lynch. I was fine pushing my preference and letting Marv do his thing. How the votes came down around yam and MILF with very little reasoning and most everyone being ok with the lynch I didn't really think MILF would flip scum. I just figured maybe we get lucky again if I'm off the wagon again instead of on it. It's stupid and illogical but I like being a bit superstitious sometimes.
TicaTica
Profile Joined June 2014
Costa Rica194 Posts
June 20 2014 10:12 GMT
#4710
On June 20 2014 19:04 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 19:02 TicaTica wrote:
On June 20 2014 18:19 roundabound wrote:
OK, so I get Tica is doing a filter dive of all live players (and I suppose some dead)

I want to know Tica position on CR.

Like... I am really surprised we only have 4 votes on CR, I thought this was clear cut.

~moc

Iirc I think he's an ok lynch but I'm not in a mindset to filter him now. I think I had a weird townread on him early though so I'd have to go back and weigh the two.

In one of the quotes Holy just quoted, you stated that the only thing that jumped out at you was "CR's nonsense read on ketomai"

Yah. I also think I had a townread on him early D1. I'm fine with both. Having not read his filter and having been reading up on meds (not mine) I'm not going to claim to remember everything by heart. I'd just like to figure out:
1. If I had a townread on him D1 and if so why
2. Understand my scumread on him in fullness.
Me playing/reading for an hour or two every 24 isn't usually how I go about it and I can't spout every thought I've had (thank god) from memory.
TicaTica
Profile Joined June 2014
Costa Rica194 Posts
June 20 2014 10:13 GMT
#4711
Plus Yamato being dead is like a huge motivation to try harder.
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 10:25 GMT
#4712
I cant understand a single thing Tica is espousing.

In excel, i think we call this a "circular reference".

How about, delete the above 3 or 4 posts and state:
"I am fucking tired; i do not have a set opinion, and am posting for the sake of posting because I can not sleep"

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 13:10 GMT
#4713
*yawn*

If u pricks don't want to play
At least vote cr ffs

Don't make my ass twitch

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 14:41 GMT
#4714
Slam,

I know you're nice and cozy in HF's protective arms, but he's not gonna be here forever, and I need your reads on the game.

Thank you in advance.

Sincerely,

The Man, the Myth, the Legend you chose not to meet in Cali
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 20 2014 14:48 GMT
#4715
Point: NKs make more sense if there's active scum (esp. Yamato, bill great, etc)
Point: presumably Marv will die at some point before endgame because the scum team is probably not retarded.
Point: it will be a lot easier to lynch the active scum if Marv is still alive to help push than if he's not
Conclusion: Marv please focus on active players and figure out which are scum.

Next: list of players by activity (filter length):
- Marv (28)
- holy (22)
- round (19)
- bunnies (9 in half the days)
- obi (12)
- alakazam (10)
- bar snacks (9)
- chrom (8)
- rainbows (7)
- tica (6)
- va (4)
- sinani (4)
- exo (3)
- cr (3)
- me (3)
- ketomi (3)
- ritocky (2)

Recent NKs:
- jat (19, possible attempt to bluesnipe?)
- Yamato (8)
- koshi (13, blue)
- poof (12)

Notes:
(1) holy flare is capable of 20+ page filters as scum, he has done that in the past in some of his games on the db
(2) Marv has posted as much as the bottom 8 players combined

Conclusions:

(1) after n1, scum has not been killing inactive players. They just haven't been killing the three most active players. They have killed all of the next three most active players after the top three.

(2) my analysis - scum isn't killing Marv because (a) fear of protection and (b) he's not a threat because he hasn't called most of them out yet. Of the other two, at least one is likely to be scum.

(3) anyone whose only scum reads are sinani and below are lazy mofos, but anyone whose only sum reads are sinani and below AND who claim to have the game figured out and to be active players are likely scum.
- conclusion: round abound is likely scum.
Actually wait fuck none of the three of them have discernible scum reads on people who aren't sinani and below, at least not that are mentioned in their last several pages. This is another reason I hate the spammy reactive style, makes it impossible to figure anything out

I still think at least one of holy and round has to be scum. as far as I can tell the have both gone the lazy route of scumreading and pushing only the less active players but I feel like it's more likely round is scum based on nothing but a gut read.

One other thing - right now I don't think we should lynch captain ray. Like I said when I read his filter yesterday, there are some things I don't like but I am not sure he's scum. Can someone put together a case I can read that explains reasons we are voting him? I have to go to work now and don't have time to dig through the last like twelve pages for the reasons.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 20 2014 14:54 GMT
#4716
Ps that activity list was annoying as balls to put together on my phone
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 20 2014 15:01 GMT
#4717
On June 20 2014 23:54 strongandbig wrote:
Ps that activity list was annoying as balls to put together on my phone


why are they shooting active people instead of trying to find blues when blues will literally be the conclusion of this game?
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 20 2014 15:17 GMT
#4718
SnB,

That may be the laziest, most convoluted scumhunting I've EVER seen. That's not even a case against anyone. That's just a terrible assumption based off of people's laziness?

I don't understand how anyone can actually believe that people who are trying to solve the game are scum.

Like, you're sincere in your belief that if I were to sit here and not post and not give reads, I would be town? Are you out of your fucking mind? The reason that people who haven't posted a lot are scum is because they're not giving reads. it's because they're not doing anything to try to solve the game. Yourself included! Get outta here with your shitty ass illogical bullshit.
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
June 20 2014 15:18 GMT
#4719
Round is confirmed town snb, trust me.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
June 20 2014 15:21 GMT
#4720
Everyone needs to lynch into CR / keto / SnB go. Like 17 ppl or something and 5-6 voting
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