TL 'Order' LXVI Mafia - Page 2

On June 11 2014 11:29 batsnacks wrote:
Okay I'm caught up here's my notes so far:


Sinani - Scum. He treads too lightly and unsuccessfully tries to dodge the spotlight. He tries to direct the spotlight away from himself.

Chairman Ray - Too impressive a performance to be town. Leaning heavily toward mafia.

tehpoofer - Scum. My notes say "gave a lame apology." Voted roundabout for bad reasons, then unvoted roundabout for equally bad reasons. Voted for Koshi and switched soon after without pressuring Koshi at all. Soft defended sinani early on, then voted him for bad reasons, then unvoted him for bad reasons. Noticing a pattern. Tries to look like he's "helping" by pointing out when the thread started for kush. Tries to look like he's "helping" by explaining what a hydra is. Tries to look like he's "helping" by explaining what OMGUS means. Paraphrases other people's posts for them.

roundabout - Will probably be my vote for the rest of day 1. Looked way too nervous when I went after him early. Plus I hate hydras.

vayne - Skipped early game. Skipped more because "migraine." FOS

sandroba - Gets town cred for calling out Koshi first.

exo - "I'm new guys please take it easy on me." FOS

Bill Murray - My notes say "he liked exo's early posts." All of exo's early posts were questions about terminology that he could have easily googled. FOS

TicaTica - Expert troll? Null read.

On June 11 2014 23:17 Rainbows wrote:
i dont see a reason for mafia HF not to just peace out till thursday and stick to that. This seems inherently more scummy, but so obviously scummy that he probably wouldn't do it as scum. lol

On June 12 2014 01:26 Chromatically wrote:

Has your read on me changed?

On June 12 2014 01:37 Chromatically wrote:

shhhh

On June 12 2014 01:45 ExO_ wrote:


? I don't know that I agree with Koshi, but I don't think your either misrepresenting or misinterpreting what he said. He said you're potentially scummy, and it seems to me you care more about him publicly changing this opinion than anything else. If he is scummy and trying to falsely place scum blame on you, isn't it more important that we all know he's scum and you're not, rather than what he's telling everybody?

Why do you care about his read on you so much?

On June 12 2014 05:40 gumshoe wrote:


Ultimately Exo, this is a game / : and I often feel like town players get that, but scum don't as a result of the fear we impose on them. A reluctance to post reads as fear to me but I've never played you before so I won't pretend as if I really know what your thinking. That said, I feel it's unfair of you to amount all that's been said to psycho analyst banter ) : a lot of interesting valid things have been said by your peers and if none of it appeals to you why are you playing this game? Speaking of which, your goal in this match is two fold, it is not enough to find scum, you have to prove to us that your town so that by the time you do offer up your true accusations we trust you enough to follow. that's why we all offer these reads ( even if they're not perfect) as opposed to hoarding our suspicions like menacing house wives.

On June 12 2014 06:02 marvellosity wrote:

that's silly, i'll probably change my mind 100 times over the course of the game, that's part of playing mafia

it's through seeing your opinions and the reasons behind them that people can get a good read on you, and changing your mind doesn't undermine anything.

On June 13 2014 04:46 Chromatically wrote:

I just skimmed it and didn't see anything, I can look more later but I kind of doubt that a meta read of kush will say anything conclusive with the way he's playing.

On June 13 2014 11:57 ketomai wrote:
Nice job on the lynch. In light of that lynch, it changes my opinions on a lot of people and made me look at others. Of those here are the ones that concern me most:

sinani: I'm feeling mafia on this one.

-KoC admitted after he got lynched that he's quite bad in mafia. It's not out of the question that some of his early defenses could be actual mafia. He went along with KoC's badly supported agenda on batsnacks.
-He voted for KoC at the tipping point after it became pretty clear that KoC was going to get lynched already. He actually soft defended KoC before that and then after a couple more votes came in and KoC surpassed SnB, he conceded.



Here, he's suggesting that there's nothing wrong with votes on ended bandwagons. Notice where his own vote is when he says this (on the antiquated Koshi wagon). While being on an inactive bandwagon is not exactly a 100% mafia tell (I am guilty as well), being present while having such a vote and being content with it is a lot more mafia. He also does not change his vote or provide any analysis aside from:



Here it's already apparent that KoC is the case that should be focused on here yet he ignores marv (and marv called him out on it) and just tries to bring up my case again. He doesn't actually "investigate" KoC until he gets called out on ignoring it. In fact, the people he has problems with in his post history are myself and koshi, who a lot of people were attacking anyway. I obviously know I'm not mafia and I'm starting to think Koshi is less mafia, which makes his cases even more suspicious to me personally.

Anyway, besides that just look at his filter. He's basically contributed nothing while going for the easy low hanging fruits. That combined with his suspicious voting and lack of proactivity in analyzing big cases or any cases makes me think he's mafia.



Exo: starting to think he's more mafia



Similarly to sinani, he ignores a lot of big cases. In this post he ignores the KoC train while it's happening (and never addresses it despite being there the whole time) for almost a policy lynch on kush (with not much evidence given). He also in this post milks the newbie card, that everyone has been giving him a pass for, a little too much. For someone who's having a hard time "[indicating] who's mafia", he doesn't seem to put much effort into finding them. His accusations usually do not have a lot of backing, and in this case, his lack of accusations over the course of the whole day combined with that puts him over the top for me.

On June 13 2014 13:33 ketomai wrote:


See that's what I don't like about your play. If you weren't seeing KoC, then SAY THAT and say why before you randomly post about someone completely different. You don't want to even talk about people you don't have strong feelings about but you speak up about the randomest of people without solid evidence. I mean you accused Kush previously but your only reasoning is "he asked for it" and "he's trolly". MANY people have been "trolly" this game (Vayneauthority, Palmer, etc). Do you find a borderline policy lynch (by your reasoning) on kush more acceptable than ANY of the cases that have been brought up? I find that that hard to believe.

As for why I have so few posts, it's because yes, I am generally only active after work in a 4-5 hour time period. However, I had more of a problem about your post content and when you're inactive rather than the total posts. The total posts was just an observation.