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Ok, I'm too anxious to wait for a response LOL.
On June 25 2014 00:08 The_Templar wrote:I was jailed last night. Epishade's post seems to be coming under fire for ignoring some other possibilities that would require a very deceptive mafia. Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 23:24 GlowingBear wrote:On June 24 2014 14:35 Epishade wrote:
Ermm, I was really not expecting Token to get shot, of all people. I expected either myself, Haruhi, or Templar to die tbh, as we've all been townread for the majority of the game by most people. Token could have been a potential case if someone were to call him out, so I have a hard time rationalizing why mafia would shoot Token over someone more townie.
The only way I can see Token's shot being justified is if mafia thought he was on the right track and shot him to get rid of him, because objectively, that looked like a bad shot to me. You usually shoot people that have little chance of getting lynched for reading townie, but there seemed to be enough suspicion on Token (or at least, more than the three people I listed above) for me to think that that wasn't the reason he was shot.
There are a few people that Token scumreads over day 1, and I think that probably played a part in his death.
His scumreads:
JabberZerg (initially, then changed his mind to a townread at 4:00, which wouldn't have given mafia time to change their shot if JabberZerg wanted to keep Token alive for townreading him, assuming that Jabber is mafia)
meatpudding
Teemursu
Cats
His townreads:
Haruhi
Templar
me
Hobbit (only in his post at 4:00)
Fence reads:
Nydus
Dunno reads:
GlowBear
Other peoples
So I think the cases should probably be focused on people in his scum list at this point. I mean, he did say for people to look at me, GlowBear, and Nydus day 2 in his 4:02 post, but I'm not considering these specifically right now because they came too late to be able to influence mafia, and I'm only looking at the reasoning for shooting Token here over someone else.
He also asked me to post my reads on him, Cats, and meatpudding at this point, too, but I woke up too early today and am dead tired. I'll post my reads on everybody I have reads for sometime tomorrow after I wake up.
Night all. Your post strike me as odd. It's because the scenario you've brought isn't the only one possible. Possible scenarios are: 1) Tolkien was on the right track and asking the right questions, so it was better for Mafia to make him shut up. This is too simplistic, it would easily lead townies to lynch the right people. I don't think Mafia would do this. 2) Tolkien wasn't on the right track but being shot would lead town to misread other townies. This one seems more plausible to me. 3) My stupid mistake made them change their top townies change targets to someone who had more scumreads 4) Top townies are actually very good scums and they killed at random (I think this is too much) As I think (2) is more plausible, your post striked me as odd because you seem to push (1) as the only possible interpretation, leading townies to misreads and, therefore, to mislynchs. I'll keep an eye on you. I was going to reply something similar to this in response to Epishade's post. We can't assume that the mafia is trying to cover their tracks, as that doesn't cover half the possibilities. 1) If it's too simple, do you think 2 or 3 of JabberZerg, meatpudding, Teemursu, Cats are mafia? And where would you begin with that list? 2) This is, indeed, more likely, but again that doesn't lead us anywhere, except we can assume only one of those four, at most, are mafia. So if we lynch meatpudding and he flips red then it will be likely those other 3 are town. 3) I don't understand this one, can you clarify further? 4) Very unlikely, considering this is a newbie game. It's also possible that I was targeted by the mafia and Tolkien was killed by a vigilante. But that's somewhat unlikely as well. Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 21:49 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:On June 24 2014 14:35 Epishade wrote:
Ermm, I was really not expecting Token to get shot, of all people. I expected either myself, Haruhi, or Templar to die tbh, as we've all been townread for the majority of the game by most people. Token could have been a potential case if someone were to call him out, so I have a hard time rationalizing why mafia would shoot Token over someone more townie.
The only way I can see Token's shot being justified is if mafia thought he was on the right track and shot him to get rid of him, because objectively, that looked like a bad shot to me. You usually shoot people that have little chance of getting lynched for reading townie, but there seemed to be enough suspicion on Token (or at least, more than the three people I listed above) for me to think that that wasn't the reason he was shot.
There are a few people that Token scumreads over day 1, and I think that probably played a part in his death.
His scumreads:
JabberZerg (initially, then changed his mind to a townread at 4:00, which wouldn't have given mafia time to change their shot if JabberZerg wanted to keep Token alive for townreading him, assuming that Jabber is mafia)
meatpudding
Teemursu
Cats
His townreads:
Haruhi
Templar
me
Hobbit (only in his post at 4:00)
Fence reads:
Nydus
Dunno reads:
GlowBear
Other peoples
So I think the cases should probably be focused on people in his scum list at this point. I mean, he did say for people to look at me, GlowBear, and Nydus day 2 in his 4:02 post, but I'm not considering these specifically right now because they came too late to be able to influence mafia, and I'm only looking at the reasoning for shooting Token here over someone else.
He also asked me to post my reads on him, Cats, and meatpudding at this point, too, but I woke up too early today and am dead tired. I'll post my reads on everybody I have reads for sometime tomorrow after I wake up.
Night all. First of all you're assuming that scum shot Tolkien, it's possible that scum got jailed/roleblocked and the vig shot Tolkien. Tolkien being shot because be suspected the right people makes little sense but lets analyze it a bit. If me or meatpudding are scum it would be pointless to shoot him for suspecting us because half the game does, if either of us were to shoot him it wouldn't change anything for us and it would actually be detrimental for us to do that as scum because Tolkien was looking scummy to a lot of people too and he would've been one of the easier people to push for a mislynch. seeing as him, me and meatpudding were the main lynch candidates today we wouldn't kill one of our most valid chances to escape a lynch. Teemu, well this one's simple. If he was going to shoot someone for being "on" to him it would've been meatpudding because meatpudding's been on him more. Why would he shoot Tolkien over meatpudding? Why would he shoot either of them for that matter? They were both suspicious to a lot of people and he wasn't. As for Jabber...i dunno. He seems to be on a few peoples radars if i remember correctly, it would make more sense to shoot one of them for being "on" to him as opposed to one of the lynch candidates. It really doesn't make sense for scum to shoot him especially for the reason you posted. Personally i think the less likely situation of scum's NK being blocked and a Vig targeting Tolkien is more likely. The bolded part is extremely good. A lot of people on that scum list were scummy to a lot of people, and would want to keep tolkien around to make sure he would get attention from his somewhat aggressive MM lynch (I thought this made him more townish to me at the end), which was scummy to a lot of people. So they have no reason to bother killing him. Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 22:12 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:On June 24 2014 22:04 Teemursu wrote:
From an hour to three hours, generally. Day is from 15 to 30 minutes and night is maybe 5 minutes?
Could you instead post and reference my analysis on day 1?
I'll probably start reading and answering in about three hours. Thank you. That means you townreading Templar so quickly isn't scummy. I'll be looking through your and everyone else's filters a bit later (i started looking through your filter yesterday and that's what made me ask meatpudding all those questions). I just came in to check the thread after waking up, effort will be applied in...lets say 3-4 hours. I thought I said at the beginning that video mafia went pretty quickly and making reads this early was normal there. I'm still tired and will be reading more into these things later, but I am applying for a job this afternoon and won't have a ton of time like I usually do.
Templar:
1) If it was really that simple, I'd say that Teemu and Jabber are Mafia because meatpudding and Kotc were considered scummy much more than those other two. If Mafia killed Lord Tolkien because he was getting closer to a right path than everybody it's because he scumread people that weren't scumread a lot by others.
2) I don't believe it's as simple as (1) and I think you have good logic here. My stronget read was in meatpudding since from the beginning. I'm just afraid he is contradicting himslef out of newbieness lol.
3) My logic isn't strong behind this scenario. I'd say that they were focusing the nightkill on one of the top townies (because they might be blue in Mafia's head) but when I reavealed my thoughts on Haru they changed their target to an unlikely person to avoid wasting a nightkill on someone who could probably be protected. Is it clearer now? I'm having a hard time explaining my thoughts XD
4) Well... I'm like Vizzini from Princess Bride haha
The Vigilante scenario is possible but... god, it's so hard for it to happen, don't you think? Mafia got roleblocked and Vigilante shot the wrong person? Why not shooting meatpudding or kotc or other people that bandwagoned(?) MM1?
And there is a possibility that we may not even have a Vigilante on this game, right?
And about Kotc, I'm getting better reads on him. He is sounding more like a townie to me, mostly because of his most recent posts.
So, my scum radar is getting signals from two people now: meatpudding and epishade.
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On June 25 2014 01:24 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 00:42 GlowingBear wrote:
I'll answer you soon, Templar. Before that:
are there any clues on mod posts? No.
This is related to the thing stated earlier, I will quote myself because I particularly like it:
On June 21 2014 06:27 Alakaslam wrote:There is no cow level. The black sheep wall cannot be removed. The shroud regrows, and the GPS satellite is down as your tech center was destroyed.
Beware
Basically this meant: NO CLUES! 
That would be waaaaaay too town favored.
Not to discourage asking!
Jeez, I'm too stupid. LOL sorry and thanks
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On June 25 2014 01:38 GlowingBear wrote:Ok, I'm too anxious to wait for a response LOL. Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 00:08 The_Templar wrote:I was jailed last night. Epishade's post seems to be coming under fire for ignoring some other possibilities that would require a very deceptive mafia. On June 24 2014 23:24 GlowingBear wrote:On June 24 2014 14:35 Epishade wrote:
Ermm, I was really not expecting Token to get shot, of all people. I expected either myself, Haruhi, or Templar to die tbh, as we've all been townread for the majority of the game by most people. Token could have been a potential case if someone were to call him out, so I have a hard time rationalizing why mafia would shoot Token over someone more townie.
The only way I can see Token's shot being justified is if mafia thought he was on the right track and shot him to get rid of him, because objectively, that looked like a bad shot to me. You usually shoot people that have little chance of getting lynched for reading townie, but there seemed to be enough suspicion on Token (or at least, more than the three people I listed above) for me to think that that wasn't the reason he was shot.
There are a few people that Token scumreads over day 1, and I think that probably played a part in his death.
His scumreads:
JabberZerg (initially, then changed his mind to a townread at 4:00, which wouldn't have given mafia time to change their shot if JabberZerg wanted to keep Token alive for townreading him, assuming that Jabber is mafia)
meatpudding
Teemursu
Cats
His townreads:
Haruhi
Templar
me
Hobbit (only in his post at 4:00)
Fence reads:
Nydus
Dunno reads:
GlowBear
Other peoples
So I think the cases should probably be focused on people in his scum list at this point. I mean, he did say for people to look at me, GlowBear, and Nydus day 2 in his 4:02 post, but I'm not considering these specifically right now because they came too late to be able to influence mafia, and I'm only looking at the reasoning for shooting Token here over someone else.
He also asked me to post my reads on him, Cats, and meatpudding at this point, too, but I woke up too early today and am dead tired. I'll post my reads on everybody I have reads for sometime tomorrow after I wake up.
Night all. Your post strike me as odd. It's because the scenario you've brought isn't the only one possible. Possible scenarios are: 1) Tolkien was on the right track and asking the right questions, so it was better for Mafia to make him shut up. This is too simplistic, it would easily lead townies to lynch the right people. I don't think Mafia would do this. 2) Tolkien wasn't on the right track but being shot would lead town to misread other townies. This one seems more plausible to me. 3) My stupid mistake made them change their top townies change targets to someone who had more scumreads 4) Top townies are actually very good scums and they killed at random (I think this is too much) As I think (2) is more plausible, your post striked me as odd because you seem to push (1) as the only possible interpretation, leading townies to misreads and, therefore, to mislynchs. I'll keep an eye on you. I was going to reply something similar to this in response to Epishade's post. We can't assume that the mafia is trying to cover their tracks, as that doesn't cover half the possibilities. 1) If it's too simple, do you think 2 or 3 of JabberZerg, meatpudding, Teemursu, Cats are mafia? And where would you begin with that list? 2) This is, indeed, more likely, but again that doesn't lead us anywhere, except we can assume only one of those four, at most, are mafia. So if we lynch meatpudding and he flips red then it will be likely those other 3 are town. 3) I don't understand this one, can you clarify further? 4) Very unlikely, considering this is a newbie game. It's also possible that I was targeted by the mafia and Tolkien was killed by a vigilante. But that's somewhat unlikely as well. On June 24 2014 21:49 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:On June 24 2014 14:35 Epishade wrote:
Ermm, I was really not expecting Token to get shot, of all people. I expected either myself, Haruhi, or Templar to die tbh, as we've all been townread for the majority of the game by most people. Token could have been a potential case if someone were to call him out, so I have a hard time rationalizing why mafia would shoot Token over someone more townie.
The only way I can see Token's shot being justified is if mafia thought he was on the right track and shot him to get rid of him, because objectively, that looked like a bad shot to me. You usually shoot people that have little chance of getting lynched for reading townie, but there seemed to be enough suspicion on Token (or at least, more than the three people I listed above) for me to think that that wasn't the reason he was shot.
There are a few people that Token scumreads over day 1, and I think that probably played a part in his death.
His scumreads:
JabberZerg (initially, then changed his mind to a townread at 4:00, which wouldn't have given mafia time to change their shot if JabberZerg wanted to keep Token alive for townreading him, assuming that Jabber is mafia)
meatpudding
Teemursu
Cats
His townreads:
Haruhi
Templar
me
Hobbit (only in his post at 4:00)
Fence reads:
Nydus
Dunno reads:
GlowBear
Other peoples
So I think the cases should probably be focused on people in his scum list at this point. I mean, he did say for people to look at me, GlowBear, and Nydus day 2 in his 4:02 post, but I'm not considering these specifically right now because they came too late to be able to influence mafia, and I'm only looking at the reasoning for shooting Token here over someone else.
He also asked me to post my reads on him, Cats, and meatpudding at this point, too, but I woke up too early today and am dead tired. I'll post my reads on everybody I have reads for sometime tomorrow after I wake up.
Night all. First of all you're assuming that scum shot Tolkien, it's possible that scum got jailed/roleblocked and the vig shot Tolkien. Tolkien being shot because be suspected the right people makes little sense but lets analyze it a bit. If me or meatpudding are scum it would be pointless to shoot him for suspecting us because half the game does, if either of us were to shoot him it wouldn't change anything for us and it would actually be detrimental for us to do that as scum because Tolkien was looking scummy to a lot of people too and he would've been one of the easier people to push for a mislynch. seeing as him, me and meatpudding were the main lynch candidates today we wouldn't kill one of our most valid chances to escape a lynch. Teemu, well this one's simple. If he was going to shoot someone for being "on" to him it would've been meatpudding because meatpudding's been on him more. Why would he shoot Tolkien over meatpudding? Why would he shoot either of them for that matter? They were both suspicious to a lot of people and he wasn't. As for Jabber...i dunno. He seems to be on a few peoples radars if i remember correctly, it would make more sense to shoot one of them for being "on" to him as opposed to one of the lynch candidates. It really doesn't make sense for scum to shoot him especially for the reason you posted. Personally i think the less likely situation of scum's NK being blocked and a Vig targeting Tolkien is more likely. The bolded part is extremely good. A lot of people on that scum list were scummy to a lot of people, and would want to keep tolkien around to make sure he would get attention from his somewhat aggressive MM lynch (I thought this made him more townish to me at the end), which was scummy to a lot of people. So they have no reason to bother killing him. On June 24 2014 22:12 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:On June 24 2014 22:04 Teemursu wrote:
From an hour to three hours, generally. Day is from 15 to 30 minutes and night is maybe 5 minutes?
Could you instead post and reference my analysis on day 1?
I'll probably start reading and answering in about three hours. Thank you. That means you townreading Templar so quickly isn't scummy. I'll be looking through your and everyone else's filters a bit later (i started looking through your filter yesterday and that's what made me ask meatpudding all those questions). I just came in to check the thread after waking up, effort will be applied in...lets say 3-4 hours. I thought I said at the beginning that video mafia went pretty quickly and making reads this early was normal there. I'm still tired and will be reading more into these things later, but I am applying for a job this afternoon and won't have a ton of time like I usually do. Templar: 1) If it was really that simple, I'd say that Teemu and Jabber are Mafia because meatpudding and Kotc were considered scummy much more than those other two. If Mafia killed Lord Tolkien because he was getting closer to a right path than everybody it's because he scumread people that weren't scumread a lot by others. 2) I don't believe it's as simple as (1) and I think you have good logic here. My stronget read was in meatpudding since from the beginning. I'm just afraid he is contradicting himslef out of newbieness lol. 3) My logic isn't strong behind this scenario. I'd say that they were focusing the nightkill on one of the top townies (because they might be blue in Mafia's head) but when I reavealed my thoughts on Haru they changed their target to an unlikely person to avoid wasting a nightkill on someone who could probably be protected. Is it clearer now? I'm having a hard time explaining my thoughts XD 4) Well... I'm like Vizzini from Princess Bride haha The Vigilante scenario is possible but... god, it's so hard for it to happen, don't you think? Mafia got roleblocked and Vigilante shot the wrong person? Why not shooting meatpudding or kotc or other people that bandwagoned(?) MM1?
And there is a possibility that we may not even have a Vigilante on this game, right?And about Kotc, I'm getting better reads on him. He is sounding more like a townie to me, mostly because of his most recent posts. So, my scum radar is getting signals from two people now: meatpudding and epishade.
I'm still thinking about this, but I really think that mafia shot Templar, but Templar was defended by jail.
I probably got roleblocked since you said those stuff about me being blue.
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Ok, let's stop talking about blues and moreover, what happened this night. If you start saying what happened night after night it will narrow alignments for Mafia.
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On June 25 2014 01:58 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, let's stop talking about blues and moreover, what happened this night. If you start saying what happened night after night it will narrow alignments for Mafia.
It is important to at least know what happened this night so that we can choose the correct people to lynch. Here's an example:
If Tolkien got vigi'ed, one person who scumread him probably shot him.
If Tolkien got scum'ed, one person in his scumread probably did it. Or many other factors.
I don't like lynching people who could be blues. I need the definite answer to this shot.
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I had a feeling I might get some flak for my post earlier, albeit, not in the way I expected.
People are saying that my post is a little scummy for leaving out other scenarios. I did make it before Templar said he was jailed, and also before Haruhi said she was roleblocked. I honestly just didn't even consider that mafia would miss a shot and instead the shot might be from vigi. I also didn't really expect mafia to shoot someone at random, as I don't really think they would shoot someone without putting any thought into it just to screw with us.
I did consider (but didn't include) mafia using wifom in their shot decision in my post, such that we'd think they shot Token for being on the right track, when instead they shot Token because he was on the wrong track and they wanted us to think he was right. But I really didn't think that was the case either. I don't really see that happening in a newbie game, where they might expect that some people might not have even theorized that Token was shot because he was on the right track.
You guys realize too, that if mafia did, in fact, miss their target and vigi shot Token, that either Templar or Haruhi would be scum then, right?
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On June 25 2014 03:29 Epishade wrote:
I had a feeling I might get some flak for my post earlier, albeit, not in the way I expected.
People are saying that my post is a little scummy for leaving out other scenarios. I did make it before Templar said he was jailed, and also before Haruhi said she was roleblocked. I honestly just didn't even consider that mafia would miss a shot and instead the shot might be from vigi. I also didn't really expect mafia to shoot someone at random, as I don't really think they would shoot someone without putting any thought into it just to screw with us.
I did consider (but didn't include) mafia using wifom in their shot decision in my post, such that we'd think they shot Token for being on the right track, when instead they shot Token because he was on the wrong track and they wanted us to think he was right. But I really didn't think that was the case either. I don't really see that happening in a newbie game, where they might expect that some people might not have even theorized that Token was shot because he was on the right track.
You guys realize too, that if mafia did, in fact, miss their target and vigi shot Token, that either Templar or Haruhi would be scum then, right?
It's also possible, in this scenario, that medic (if there is one) healed the mafia target, or they targeted me and jail protected me.
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On June 25 2014 03:35 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 03:29 Epishade wrote:
I had a feeling I might get some flak for my post earlier, albeit, not in the way I expected.
People are saying that my post is a little scummy for leaving out other scenarios. I did make it before Templar said he was jailed, and also before Haruhi said she was roleblocked. I honestly just didn't even consider that mafia would miss a shot and instead the shot might be from vigi. I also didn't really expect mafia to shoot someone at random, as I don't really think they would shoot someone without putting any thought into it just to screw with us.
I did consider (but didn't include) mafia using wifom in their shot decision in my post, such that we'd think they shot Token for being on the right track, when instead they shot Token because he was on the wrong track and they wanted us to think he was right. But I really didn't think that was the case either. I don't really see that happening in a newbie game, where they might expect that some people might not have even theorized that Token was shot because he was on the right track.
You guys realize too, that if mafia did, in fact, miss their target and vigi shot Token, that either Templar or Haruhi would be scum then, right? It's also possible, in this scenario, that medic (if there is one) healed the mafia target, or they targeted me and jail protected me.
edit: by "they" I mean scum
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On June 25 2014 03:29 Epishade wrote:
I had a feeling I might get some flak for my post earlier, albeit, not in the way I expected.
People are saying that my post is a little scummy for leaving out other scenarios. I did make it before Templar said he was jailed, and also before Haruhi said she was roleblocked. I honestly just didn't even consider that mafia would miss a shot and instead the shot might be from vigi. I also didn't really expect mafia to shoot someone at random, as I don't really think they would shoot someone without putting any thought into it just to screw with us.
I did consider (but didn't include) mafia using wifom in their shot decision in my post, such that we'd think they shot Token for being on the right track, when instead they shot Token because he was on the wrong track and they wanted us to think he was right. But I really didn't think that was the case either. I don't really see that happening in a newbie game, where they might expect that some people might not have even theorized that Token was shot because he was on the right track.
You guys realize too, that if mafia did, in fact, miss their target and vigi shot Token, that either Templar or Haruhi would be scum then, right?
Explain. I don't see in any way, how would me or Templar be scum?
If scum misshot, it would obviously be on Templar.
So scum roleblocked me, another scum?
???
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On June 25 2014 03:35 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 03:29 Epishade wrote:
I had a feeling I might get some flak for my post earlier, albeit, not in the way I expected.
People are saying that my post is a little scummy for leaving out other scenarios. I did make it before Templar said he was jailed, and also before Haruhi said she was roleblocked. I honestly just didn't even consider that mafia would miss a shot and instead the shot might be from vigi. I also didn't really expect mafia to shoot someone at random, as I don't really think they would shoot someone without putting any thought into it just to screw with us.
I did consider (but didn't include) mafia using wifom in their shot decision in my post, such that we'd think they shot Token for being on the right track, when instead they shot Token because he was on the wrong track and they wanted us to think he was right. But I really didn't think that was the case either. I don't really see that happening in a newbie game, where they might expect that some people might not have even theorized that Token was shot because he was on the right track.
You guys realize too, that if mafia did, in fact, miss their target and vigi shot Token, that either Templar or Haruhi would be scum then, right? It's also possible, in this scenario, that medic (if there is one) healed the mafia target, or they targeted me and jail protected me.
There is no medic in this game.
Actually, I didn't think of that. It does go both ways. I was thinking that if you were jailed and handed the gun, that you wouldn't have been able to shoot somebody while vigi shot Token. You're right.
That would also take Haruhi off the table then too, since mafia still could have wasted the shot on you and Haruhi just gets side-roleblocked.
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EBWOP
Sorry if I sound defensive, but this is quite complicated and I'm quite confused. Everyone have their own version of how this night turned out and I cant really understand most.
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On June 25 2014 03:42 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 03:29 Epishade wrote:
I had a feeling I might get some flak for my post earlier, albeit, not in the way I expected.
People are saying that my post is a little scummy for leaving out other scenarios. I did make it before Templar said he was jailed, and also before Haruhi said she was roleblocked. I honestly just didn't even consider that mafia would miss a shot and instead the shot might be from vigi. I also didn't really expect mafia to shoot someone at random, as I don't really think they would shoot someone without putting any thought into it just to screw with us.
I did consider (but didn't include) mafia using wifom in their shot decision in my post, such that we'd think they shot Token for being on the right track, when instead they shot Token because he was on the wrong track and they wanted us to think he was right. But I really didn't think that was the case either. I don't really see that happening in a newbie game, where they might expect that some people might not have even theorized that Token was shot because he was on the right track.
You guys realize too, that if mafia did, in fact, miss their target and vigi shot Token, that either Templar or Haruhi would be scum then, right? Explain. I don't see in any way, how would me or Templar be scum? If scum misshot, it would obviously be on Templar. So scum roleblocked me, another scum? ???
I was thinking that if either of you two were handed the gun, neither of you would have been able to shoot, due to your being roleblocked and Templar's being jailed. That would lead to the only death being by Vigi.
However, I forgot to take into account Templar's possible being targeted while in jail, which would protect him and waste a shot. My mistake.
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On June 25 2014 03:45 Epishade wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 03:35 The_Templar wrote:On June 25 2014 03:29 Epishade wrote:
I had a feeling I might get some flak for my post earlier, albeit, not in the way I expected.
People are saying that my post is a little scummy for leaving out other scenarios. I did make it before Templar said he was jailed, and also before Haruhi said she was roleblocked. I honestly just didn't even consider that mafia would miss a shot and instead the shot might be from vigi. I also didn't really expect mafia to shoot someone at random, as I don't really think they would shoot someone without putting any thought into it just to screw with us.
I did consider (but didn't include) mafia using wifom in their shot decision in my post, such that we'd think they shot Token for being on the right track, when instead they shot Token because he was on the wrong track and they wanted us to think he was right. But I really didn't think that was the case either. I don't really see that happening in a newbie game, where they might expect that some people might not have even theorized that Token was shot because he was on the right track.
You guys realize too, that if mafia did, in fact, miss their target and vigi shot Token, that either Templar or Haruhi would be scum then, right? It's also possible, in this scenario, that medic (if there is one) healed the mafia target, or they targeted me and jail protected me. There is no medic in this game. Actually, I didn't think of that. It does go both ways. I was thinking that if you were jailed and handed the gun, that you wouldn't have been able to shoot somebody while vigi shot Token. You're right. That would also take Haruhi off the table then too, since mafia still could have wasted the shot on you and Haruhi just gets side-roleblocked.
Oh. I didn't examine the role list very carefully, I just assumed there was a medic possible :\
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I just realized I never addressed the replacing & stuff.
There may be a grace period of "if they came back at all"
Filtering now.
UPDATE** BlondeMocha has been modkilled.
Mtamburini will replace Scott31337
And Tehpoofter for Solar424
Effective when they come and post. I will be sending them their roles.
3 "modkills". Hijole
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It's in the OP but so no one misses it-
BlondeMocha has been modkilled - his role was Yeoman Crewmember (VT).
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On June 25 2014 04:42 Amiko wrote:
It's in the OP but so no one misses it-
BlondeMocha has been modkilled - his role was Yeoman Crewmember (VT).
Tolkien is not listed as killed in OP
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Haru, what's your read on Epishade and meatpudding ATM?
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Hey guys, I'm still working on my reads on everybody so far. This is gonna take a while, but I'll get it up eventually.
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Yeah slam will edit it I'm sure, I just wanted to make sure since his post on this page didn't say the flip
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Why are we talking about WIFOMy scenarios on Tolkien's death and not looking at who and how MM1 was pressured/voted by?
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