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HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 30 2014 04:13 GMT
#2150
I am willing to bet that I was rb, but jail> rb so it didnt send a message here.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 30 2014 04:19 GMT
#2152
On June 30 2014 13:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 13:07 HaruRH wrote:
On June 30 2014 13:06 GlowingBear wrote:
So this is the best time to claim the blue role.
Do it now.



No this is not. Claiming jailer now would just get the claimer killed. Then ill be killed. We havent found our scum yet.


If nobody claims being jail keeper I'm going to hop on the wagon against you because it is so easy to mafia kill a guy you green checked just to fake confirm your role as a cop.
No, It's not WIFOM at this point, specially after you attempt to cryptography a message


Exactly. It is so easy to do so, why would I do that?

If I'm scum, I would do something that makes you all believe that I am indeed jailed, such as doing a no kill. But I am just a sitting duck now, rb to the end of earth.

Also, it is not wise to go for a blue even if you know him, because there is a chance he could be jailed. Like I am right now. Going for a confirmed town in mp is a better choice than trying to shoot me anyway.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 30 2014 04:35 GMT
#2154
On June 30 2014 13:26 GlowingBear wrote:
It would be better if you were dead. You're not a confirmed town as meatpudding was and you are no more than a vanilla since you can't check. Killing meatpudding was so more predictable than killing you. I don't believe jailer hasn't put though on that.

I'll wait and see if someone is claiming.

Before that, what do you think of the Templar and Hobbitus right now?


You're going to tell me that there isnt a single blue role in a game of 15 people.

Killing mp and me was another gamble. Prisoner's dilemma.

Hobbitus? I have never seen someone as tunneled as him. Every fking thing I do is scum. Every. I refuse to even care about him anymore. I should have checked him on d2 instead of mp.

Templar? He is quite lurky, posts thoughts about things he missed but never posted reads.
At least he posted stuff, unlike mtam and poofter, who coasted through n3 without a single post.

Hobbit, get the fuck off me now. I am seriously irritated and annoyed with your tunnelling. I am not the only possible scum. Who do you think are the others and why.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 30 2014 04:47 GMT
#2156
On June 30 2014 12:58 Hobbitus wrote:
This game is exhausting. Not much to say tonight except mp would be a good night kill if Haru was scum. Also asking to be jailed = no check tonight, easier to continue fake claim.

Seriously, does no one else see the major problems with his claim?

Updated Reads

HaruRH-scum
Tehpoofter-town
GlowingBear-town easily influenced, be careful
Meatpudding-town
Epishade-town (based on vote analysis)
mtamburini-town
The_Templar-scum


What makes you so sure that hobbit did not kill mp today so that he could incriminate me further?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 30 2014 17:20 GMT
#2167
On June 30 2014 20:48 Hobbitus wrote:
I was thinking about that too bear, but I think there probably is a jailer. Templar claimed he was jailed n1 which seems like too much of a risk/too premeditated to make haru's cop claim useless.

Haru, I think you are scummiest, so I am pushing you the most. Give me someone with a more convincing case than you and I will "tunnel" (do my damn job as town) on them.


No, its not possible. When you're tunnelled onto someone, you outright ignore all possibilities except those that confirm your target as scum. There is nothing that can be done to shake the tunneller off you. -> experience from being tunnelled and tunnelling someone before
I can guarantee you 100% that any cases I put up will be used by you against me and it just deepen your tunnel. I already gave up trying to make you get off me. Now its up to you to see what's really happening in this game. Even if I am scum in your eyes, I am definitely not the only scum in the game.
I also gave up on trying to convince you because I don't want to quit this game yet. Although none of my cases were taken seriously (my long and well thought out read/case on you were dismissed by everyone with one simple sentence: 'nah he can't be scum because I still townread him'. I don't know if you ever had this before, but it is immensely frustrating. Coupled with you tunnel on me, I have the urge to just disappear and afk from this game, like what poofter and mtam are doing , while getting a free 'town' card for doing nothing. Why did I bother being serious in this game anyway? Yea, its my first blue role game in tl mafia so I felt an extra need to help propel town to find scum. That was what I was doing d1/d2, invoking discussions.
Also, I felt a need to make sure everyone concentrated on this important game of mine. Thats why I wws so fking pissed with mtam for trolling on his entrance. That's why I'm so pissed at you, hobbitus for tunnelling on me when everyone else just afk and comes back 1 hour before the deadline and disappear. That's why I'm pissed that scum is just making your tunnel on me worse by making every single thing you said about me come true. (Mp death = haru scum -> mp really dies) I'm nearly done with this game, but not quite. At least glowingbear and epishade are thinking right now. If thry aren't giving up, I don't want to.
If youre town, hobbitus, get the fuck off me now. Or else you'll regret tunnelling on a town like how rainbows tunnelled on me, got me lynched, and was depressed that I flipped town.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 30 2014 17:29 GMT
#2168
And for the hidden message thing, I was pretty sure people will catch onto it because those sentences start out very awkwardly. Definitely noticeable for someone who bothered to read it, over skimming it.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 30 2014 18:24 GMT
#2174
Yes. Poofter and mtam needs to show up.
I also said that you both can be a pair of mafia and town. I'm inclined to believe you're town.
I also mentioned that I don't want to scumread you because of your bad logic at first.
Also, you got out of your behavioural change. I'm glad. But hobbit isn't and most likely won't. This, I'm not as thrilled.
##Vote: Tehpoofter
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 30 2014 18:30 GMT
#2176
On July 01 2014 02:47 Epishade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 02:20 HaruRH wrote:
On June 30 2014 20:48 Hobbitus wrote:
I was thinking about that too bear, but I think there probably is a jailer. Templar claimed he was jailed n1 which seems like too much of a risk/too premeditated to make haru's cop claim useless.

Haru, I think you are scummiest, so I am pushing you the most. Give me someone with a more convincing case than you and I will "tunnel" (do my damn job as town) on them.


No, its not possible. When you're tunnelled onto someone, you outright ignore all possibilities except those that confirm your target as scum. There is nothing that can be done to shake the tunneller off you. -> experience from being tunnelled and tunnelling someone before
I can guarantee you 100% that any cases I put up will be used by you against me and it just deepen your tunnel. I already gave up trying to make you get off me. Now its up to you to see what's really happening in this game. Even if I am scum in your eyes, I am definitely not the only scum in the game.
I also gave up on trying to convince you because I don't want to quit this game yet. Although none of my cases were taken seriously (my long and well thought out read/case on you were dismissed by everyone with one simple sentence: 'nah he can't be scum because I still townread him'. I don't know if you ever had this before, but it is immensely frustrating. Coupled with you tunnel on me, I have the urge to just disappear and afk from this game, like what poofter and mtam are doing , while getting a free 'town' card for doing nothing. Why did I bother being serious in this game anyway? Yea, its my first blue role game in tl mafia so I felt an extra need to help propel town to find scum. That was what I was doing d1/d2, invoking discussions.
Also, I felt a need to make sure everyone concentrated on this important game of mine. Thats why I wws so fking pissed with mtam for trolling on his entrance. That's why I'm so pissed at you, hobbitus for tunnelling on me when everyone else just afk and comes back 1 hour before the deadline and disappear. That's why I'm pissed that scum is just making your tunnel on me worse by making every single thing you said about me come true. (Mp death = haru scum -> mp really dies) I'm nearly done with this game, but not quite. At least glowingbear and epishade are thinking right now. If thry aren't giving up, I don't want to.
If youre town, hobbitus, get the fuck off me now. Or else you'll regret tunnelling on a town like how rainbows tunnelled on me, got me lynched, and was depressed that I flipped town.

I wouldn't know that feeling...


Yea epi that's the same stuff I'm feeling now. A want to give up. No mood to continue. No motivation.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
July 01 2014 10:47 GMT
#2188
I'll kill either. Both aren't doing anything that is helping town right now

##Unvote
##Vote: mtamburini
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
July 01 2014 13:23 GMT
#2192
On July 01 2014 22:05 Hobbitus wrote:
The only two people I will vote for is Templar or Haru. The two of them have been defending each other this entire game. As soon as I start to make my case on Templar, Haru comes out of nowhere and starts attacking me. Then when I have the audacity to call him out on his cop claim (WHICH MAKES NO SENSE), I'm (1) tunneling, I should (2) get the fuck off him, and (3) he is just going to ignore me.

So basically he wants to
(1) discredit me and my reads as OMGUS when I was never on him in the first place, I was going after Templar
(2) make me back off
(3) refuse to acknowledge any arguments I make because if he keeps arguing with me it's eventually going to become obvious he's scum

Look at how easily he's switching from poof to tamburini, because "they aren't helping." Isn't it a little late in the game to be lynching people for lack of contribution? Isn't that the same argument he's been using all game to get town lynched? He doesn't care who gets killed, as long as it isn't him or Templar.


still tunnelled.

1) nope
2) yes
3) nope

It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
July 01 2014 13:51 GMT
#2194
On July 01 2014 02:20 HaruRH wrote:
I can guarantee you 100% that any cases I put up will be used by you against me and it just deepen your tunnel. I already gave up trying to make you get off me.

It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
July 01 2014 14:39 GMT
#2203
On July 01 2014 23:35 Hobbitus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 22:58 The_Templar wrote:
You very elegantly connected me and Haru, Hobbitus. It's amazing how you managed to pull off claiming that we were defending each other the whole game when I didn't require any defense until you attacked me, and even then, Haru only used that to push you instead of defending me. For some reason, you are both tunneling each other incessantly.

Now, if I'm reading this game correctly, mafia is pretty much sitting back and making sure they keep control of the EOD cycles. Who are these people, you may ask? Why, obviously Teemu (he's flipped), Tehpoofter, and mtam. I'm not sure I buy that the latter two are both mafia, but I'm positive at least one of them are, and their behaviors are extremely similar (except for mtam being very aggressive towards Haru).

I don't want to play with mtam if it reaches the end of game, so I'll vote him.

##Vote: mtamburini


Haru is basically trying to discredit me, but won't commit to pushing me as scum because there is no good case to be made on me.

Give me an argument on mtam other than "he's annoying."


Nope.

Case on you? pfft made so many I lost count.

And no, I don't want to push you because I realised that scum is just manipulating us from the shadows. Waiting till eod to appear. how convenient.

Well, just stay in your haru tunnel. Don't make people convince you that mtam is scum since you cant even convince yourself.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
July 01 2014 14:41 GMT
#2204
On July 01 2014 23:38 Hobbitus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 11:57 GlowingBear wrote:

I'd rather lynch mtamburini than Templar tbh. Templar is at least participating


Also, just note that Templar/Haru jumped on the mtam bandwagon after poof voted him and bear posted this.

In b4 me posting this fact is tunneling.


sure.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
July 01 2014 16:31 GMT
#2212
On June 23 2014 12:54 Amiko wrote:
Vote Count – Day 1


scott31337 (1): Lord Tolkein, The_Templar, scott31337
Lord Tolkien (0): HaruRH
TheKingOfTheCats (0): NydusHerMain, MysteryMeat1
meatpudding (4): Teemursu, scott31337, HaruRH, The_Templar, jabberwockzerg, Epishade, GlowingBear, MysteryMeat1, The_Templar
HaruRH (0): meatpudding
jabberwockzerg (0): Hobbitus
MysteryMeat1 (8): TheKingOfTheCats, Lord Tolkien, Epishade, Hobbitus, The_Templar, jabberwockzerg, NydusHerMain, The_Templar, meatpudding

Not voting (2): Solar424, BlondeMocha



On June 26 2014 13:01 Amiko wrote:
Day 2 - Final Vote Count


meatpudding (0): Teemursu, Hobbitus, The_Templar, GlowingBear
NydusHerMain (3): Tehpoofter, Teemursu, TheKingOfTheCats, TheKingOfTheCats, mtamburini
GlowingBear (0): NydusHerMain
Teemursu (2): Meatpudding, Epishade, Epishade
Epishade (2): HaruRH, Teemursu, Hobbitus
HaruRH (0): GlowingBear
Jabberwockzerg (2): Epishade, The_Templar, TheKingOfTheCats, GlowingBear
mtamburini (2): HaruRH, NydusHerMain

Not voting (1): Jabberwockzerg



On June 29 2014 14:46 Amiko wrote:
Day 3 - Final Vote Count


The_Templar (2)GlowingBear, Hobbitus, mtamburini, Tehpoofter, mtamburini, Hobbitus
Epishade (3): HaruRH, GlowingBear, HaruRH, The_Templar, TehPoofter, HaruRH
Meatpudding (1): Epishade, Teemursu, mtamburini
Teemursu (3*): Meatpudding, Epishade, Epishade, GlowingBear, Epishade, GlowingBear
Hobbitus (0): HaruRH
HaruRH (0): Hobbitus, Epishade, TehPoofter, TehPoofter, GlowingBear
mtamburini (0): TehPoofter, GlowingBear, HaruRH, Epishade

Not Voting (0): No one


It makes more sense IMO when mtam/scott is not greened out.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
July 02 2014 08:08 GMT
#2324
I just woke up.

Wut we got scum? How is templar scum? =.=
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
July 02 2014 12:30 GMT
#2326
On July 02 2014 21:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2014 17:08 HaruRH wrote:
I just woke up.

Wut we got scum? How is templar scum? =.=


You know, there is a guy named GlowingBear and specially a girl named Hobbitus who made their cases on Templar.

He played scum pretty well then. I was wrong on him. His arguments felt so... me. Like it felt like something I might have said.

Oh well. Now 1 or 2 scum left?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
July 02 2014 22:03 GMT
#2340
On July 03 2014 01:38 GlowingBear wrote:
I can work a case on Haru, poof, Epishade and mtamburini using my main post as the source of my interpretations. The problem is deciding what is the better case right now. You bring very good points concerning Haru, but his arguments (besides refusing answering you) also makes sense. The problem is: is he lying or is he desperately trying to save town doing these stuffs?

Don't you think having a cop, a jailer and a vigilante is too much? If you think a jailer and a cop is enough, then you've got another argument against Haru because he considered so bad the possibility of a vigilante right now.

Alright. If we have a jailer, please put a lot of thought when deciding who to jail. Read some posts and try to think what mafia would do when (1) having privileged information and (2) knowing what townies are thinking of themselves.

I would also ask you to consider trying to jail scum, as we might have just one left. If you manage to jail the killer, no kill will happen and we will be able to lynch mafia with precision


yes, I think having 3 roles is too much for town at this point. Most likely there isn't a vigi. I just attributed the n1 shot as a vigi shot since I don't see scum motive for it.

To respond to the rb question, I got rb d2, nothing d3 and jailed d4. Idk why there wasnt a rb d2 and 3. Either people did not report it or scum decided not to roleblock (they thought no blue exist?) Or that it hit the jailer and he did not want to say it since there was no jail claims d2.

Either jail me to prove my innocence or jail your most likely scum target. Jailing me gives the extra benefit of overlapping with the rb
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
July 03 2014 12:08 GMT
#2363
Jailed again.
Stop jailing me jailer. Jail your most suspected person next.
I sent action to check you at night, but my check didn't go through since I was jailed.
I think jailer might have hit scum on d2. Templar (scum) claimed jail on d1 and nothing happened d2. Jailer could have jailed the mafia rb and since no rb went through, rb was hesitant to claim jail as it would expose him.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
July 03 2014 12:11 GMT
#2364
EBWOP: d3* I got the order mixed up. D2 templar jailed, d3 nothing, d4-d5 haru jailed
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
July 03 2014 19:55 GMT
#2367
N1 (D2) - tolkien (no result, roleblocked)
N2 (D3) - Meatpudding (town)
N3 (D4) - epishade (no result- jailed)
N4 (D5) - mtamburini (no result - jailed)
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
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