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lynch plz | ||
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On May 27 2014 10:09 WaveofShadow wrote: OWS is BH man u so smrt | ||
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rereading the thread now, first post of the game. btw this is a terrible game for rng, just fyi. | ||
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On May 28 2014 10:58 Tehpoofter wrote: I like you already although wish you had hit us with some initial reads before the reread ![]() yeah because ill have reads before i play the game. yep. youre so good at this omgeeee. | ||
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bam. theres one. lynch this guy. mission accomplished. not even the "great" holyflare can hide from me. man, i wish you guys were as good as i was at this game. | ||
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On May 28 2014 11:36 Tehpoofter wrote: words pfft. | ||
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On May 28 2014 11:47 Tehpoofter wrote: I no longer like you. Sorry for pointing out your typo/misspeak ![]() touchy. but dw, youll get up to speed eventually my young padawan. ill give you reads when i feel like it. | ||
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On May 28 2014 12:38 Holyflare wrote: well that's cool, have a town read for doing research ![]() thats a really disjointed read. the information he brought in was wrong but you townread him anyway? that was kinda forced and it wouldnt surprise me if you were just looking for an excuse to townread him, imo. | ||
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thats it. put up ya dukes. im mad. ![]() | ||
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##vote: ritoky | ||
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On May 28 2014 14:30 ritoky wrote: I appreciate your vote and compliment good sir, but could I ask you for a little more input on the matter? Do you like my methodology? Do you like my reads? Do you love freedom? Do you think I am 100% town? what are you, my mom? | ||
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also ill totes anchor for town. | ||
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On May 29 2014 02:41 Holyflare wrote: cell mafia 1 was an abomination, nothing in that game was a proper mafia game well so are you but everyone seems totally okay with that. | ||
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sloosh is probably the scum in it though. his filter is basically nothing but setup speculation and useless garbage, basically someone posting enough to seem town without actually doing anything. its a bunch of useless, generic advice made to look like he was doing things, when in reality he was just actively lurking. its pretty clear that he opted out of the discourse without looking like he was doing so. burini's filter really isnt good either. i dont really care about him right now though. burini, post more. my filter isnt much better except it will be at the time of posting this. lol. | ||
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On May 29 2014 10:36 Holyflare wrote: i am scum and im gonna take potshots at you 'cause you found me so fast. i am also a terrorist. geez calm down already | ||
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On May 29 2014 10:37 WaveofShadow wrote: Makes sense. K actually though Group A is bugging the shit out of me I want that solved. What are the chances ritoky has the massive cohones to run for mayor simply to exit the game and win his group? MZ I am having way more trouble with now since his lack of posting even though I had mind-meld on him, and Odin doesn't look particularly bad. ritoky is probably town imo. i might actually cry if someone so american was scum. apple pies and such. id have to filter dive the other two. idk. | ||
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On May 29 2014 10:42 Holyflare wrote: someone help this guy is pointing out my scumpartner and i need to figure out how to save him. wat. im actually going to post a big fun case on you in like an hour or two or so. | ||
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On May 29 2014 10:48 27ninjabunnies wrote: Actual meaning: i'll post a big case on you if I figure out something you said was scummy or not/ use the things you post within the next hour. And if i cant find anything i did say an hour or two...or so... So maybe even more. Btw: if you cant tell by this post, obi, i dont necessarily like you. i thought what was had was special. | ||
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ebwop. also good luck pushing on me, newbie. | ||
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On May 29 2014 10:52 27ninjabunnies wrote: Haha. Sorry hun. What we had wasn't special enough. Plus there is someone I like a lot more in this forum than you. Who said I was pushing anywhere. And even if I was, I can take you. I may be a newbie, but don't underestimate me. rofl. ok. | ||
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On May 29 2014 11:02 Tehpoofter wrote: Any chance you might post a big fun case or anything on the group we actually are lynching between today? I am excited to hear your case though. ill get to it when i feel like it. | ||
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associative reads arent good either, especially pre-flip. you even admit that its dumb and then you push it anyway. arent you supposed to be good? | ||
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ill be on later though. eventually. | ||
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On May 29 2014 11:14 WaveofShadow wrote: LOL Are you Robik? You have to be one of the newbies to say something like this. ![]() | ||
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ive gotta get up reasonably early so ill be back tomorrow. | ||
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ok im gone for real this time. | ||
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im back for real now and im about to obvious town the hell out of this thread. prepare your butts. also, fun fact: On May 30 2014 06:57 IAmRobik wrote: Artanis didn't tell me that we are playing this game on another planet i am now multiaccounting. be afraid. be very afraid. | ||
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On May 30 2014 11:47 WaveofShadow wrote: HF I hate playing together with you STOP IT whats the problem? | ||
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im working on a big case right now, its gonna take a while. | ||
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it starts with h and its you actually. | ||
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On May 30 2014 12:44 Holyflare wrote: damn you found me plz dotn post teh best case ever people will know im mafia no dice. also the scum in cell a is meapak and ill get to that when i get the chance. | ||
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below is a quote of his mayoral platform: + Show Spoiler + On May 28 2014 07:01 Holyflare wrote: ![]() VOTE HOLYFLARE FOR MAYOR
If you answered yes to any of those questions then I am the man for you. If you click my profile you will see that I have an enormous amount of wins in a row. This is purely because of the fact that i'm good. If I'm mafia i'll be bussing and you should be getting free points regardless. I love to bus and this setup is majorly favoured for that. If I'm town I'll be right anyway so what have you got to lose? It's win/win for everybody! Everybody but scum that is. We hate those scum. Not only that but I've already crumbed my role in this post. Is it not obvious? I'm green. Green is the colour of town. I am town. You should love to follow someone who is good and is town. So, naturally, you should follow me. Follow me to victory that is. Who likes winning? I do! In a recent survey of everyone on this planet, people had the following things to say about my mafia abilities: ![]() Do you SEE THAT? I'm a team-player, a proactive problem-solver! Most importantly, I am hard. I am so very aroused at the mere idea of winning that it's simply the only thing I can do. Will you join me? Will you, too, feel this hard? A vote for me is a vote for winning. ##Vote Holyflare at a glance, it looks really nice and well put together so it makes you think that he cares about the position and the fact that hes trying to solve the game. the reality of it is that theres no content at all in this post, or almost any of the posts that follow: What is time? Time is just an arbitrary parameter by which many people live their lives. I transcend time. What more could you ask for in a mayor than someone who transcends the paramater by which humanity lives? I am no human. I am Holyflare. I am your next mayor. Here's the thing. As your future mayor I know what people want. People want to be listened to, to be acknowledged. As a man elected by the people I am a servant of the people. I will follow the whim of the majority for that is the honourable leader that I am. Fail to plan, plan to fail. That's the motto most live by. I am not most. I foresee that a pre-emptive plan will be useless in a game such as this. While I am your future mayor, I am not omniscient! It is with this in mind that we play out the day like any other, we make reads and collect data. TOGETHER we shall bring peace to this mafia ridden town and recover from the travesty of Cell 1.0. This is a democracy. I am just a pretty face for the people. obviously he wants the position, but the underlying mindset is that he wants it without giving the town anything in return. he eventually gave up running for mayor when ritoky started rolling around the thread and tryharding, and trying to solve the game on day 1 is generally a town trait. eventually, holyflare gives us something: I see that you will be a thorn in my election. That being said, I do not mind your aprehension, it is justified! However, I stake my reputation on this game, I will not make this another loss like last time! I will divulge to you the secrets of this game. There are several approaches you can take: A) The first lynches will be the ones you think are fairly obvious and will net town a few points. B) The first 1 or 2 lynches will be coinflippy as you get rid of useless points of contention. I suggest going with A) with the caveat that you let the talkers stay in the game to figure it out and not leave the weakest people till last. nothing useful here. just a bunch of useless, generic advice that makes people think youre interested in the town agenda. its really easy to speculate on setup while looking town because it makes people think youre doing stuff. cell is still new so people dont know what to do, so its really easy to throw out cell layout advice and look like youre contributing. later on he wound up dropping his candidacy because he wasnt "really" running for mayor. Because i "ran" for mayor lol? Have you even read the people in my group? :pppp what? what does that even mean? how does that even coincide with his earlier post, where he posted his own artwork and went and bbcoded everything? the reality of it is that he realized someone was running for office based on content and he couldnt keep up with that so he dropped out of the running. bunnies, the mayor is useless tbh, if a towny gets it that's cool and he follows the consensus and makes a good order! if a scum gets it we get a lot of information based on the new order they proposed and what they were saying before they get mayor! obviously it was important enough for you to want to make a giant, well-written albeit empty post about it. then theres the fact that hes trying to push an agenda of buddying throughout his game, as evidenced here: hahaha odin is so cute <3 Dick move analysis suggests everyone that was around at the start of the game is very likely town. GG scum! This is not true. It's a conspiracy to subdue the women, we put genders on our voting forms for "statistical benefit" but the real secret is that we just throw the womens votes in the bin. True freedom. http://imgur.com/kdgDGNR get added to my list, stop being poopy people! (bonus points here because hes running his platformless mayoral campaign as well) Simply because I do not care to mess with such trivialities as lynch orders when I could be discovering who is mafia! I will listen to what everyone else thinks and we'll make an informed decision based on what everyone has posted. I am always at maximum hardness which is why I always win. after rereading a bunch of holyflare's games, the common theme between his scum games is that he pushes an agenda of buddying people and winning votes rather than trying to solve the game. the brevity of his filter looks good from a town point of view, but the reality of it is that hes pushing his agenda under the veneer of being the "big brother" of the thread. then there are his interactions with cell D: Cell d is literally the shittest group ever in the history of shit cell groups and i said it would be that way and ritoky still ignored it to put an easy free point group at the end. tbh, i can see where he is coming from here, because none of us have done anything and we sho- ...wait: Yay sloosh stepped up! Now we can actually kill smurf or tambo (smurf smurf smurf, probs tambo) wat. how is this consistent with his views of a shitty cell D? sloosh does a thing and its fine, but apparently cell d is still a shit group because he doesnt like it apparently. i dont draw conclusions between unflipped players, but that doesnt really erase the fact that something happened here in terms of how holyflare's demeanor towards cell d, especially when he reacts to my initial (content-loaded) posts earlier in the thread: Well you're not much better. The only contribution after saying you're going to look much more towny is pointing out things that have already been said about your group which contains 2 lurkers. Nothing about the 3 lynches ahead of it and especially nothing about the lynch that is going on today. OWS posted a case so that means that he doesnt look good. sloosh posts a (shit)case and he "steps up?" wut? this doesnt really make sense when he wants people to do things in their cells only to try to discredit them and the lack of interest in gathering more information in the thread doesnt make sense from a town point of view. instead, he attempts to throw doubt on someone in a mostly inactive cell before someone else "steps up" with information that doesn't really make sense and then townreads them for it. the townread itself was horrifically inaccurate because misinformation (despite the fact that mz is actually probably mafia) isnt good for the thread because people will just poke holes in terrible cases, or end up following said terrible cases to mislynches. then there's his reaction to said townread: this statement does not indicate trying to explain a poor read. its a justification of a rather poor read by trying to play it off as a joke. HF actually has no idea how to react to this accusation but tries to play it off anyway. its an indication that he knows more than he actually should. and then theres the entire thirteenth page of his filter which is basically just a load of active lurking to boost his postcount. not good. not necessary. not town. lynch holyflare when his cell rolls around. kthx. | ||
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On May 30 2014 23:25 IAmRobik wrote: Holy shit. WHen I read your post that WoS quoted in your filter, I had to take a doubletake and make sure that I wasn'ta lready in the game LOL we are now the best of friends and noone will ever tear us apart. also im gonna throw a yolo vote down: ##vote: meapak ive got this guy by poe and because of the plot hole spackle he has in his reads. also lol @ poofter for thinking were lynching me because mz is mafia. rofl. | ||
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On May 31 2014 02:04 IAmRobik wrote: I'm all aboard the lynch meapak train,but the fact that no one really wants to lynch anyone else concerns me. Either there's some megabus action going on, or meapak is town. how many people arent voting? | ||
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On May 31 2014 04:48 mtamburini wrote: ##VOTE: RITOKY look, people already hate our cell as it stands. could you give us a couple reasons for your vote? | ||
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nb i already asked him and he isnt answering me at all. | ||
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On May 31 2014 05:02 IAmRobik wrote: I really really wanted to vote for MZ, but that would mean that the bus in my group is real and I don't want to believe that scum would want to bus a d1 lynch. As for Ritoky, I was his coach in his newbie game. While he says he's been playing online mafia for 5+ years, nothing that he did in that newbie game would lead me to believe that he would man up and take the reigns and try to be town mayor. The fact that he did that, given my perception that he would be timid as town, makes me think that he is town BECAUSE I don't think that a timid town instantly turns into an outspoken mafia. this leads odin to being the scum in cell A. is there any proof behind this or do you just have him by poe? | ||
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On May 31 2014 05:07 WaveofShadow wrote: And please, on the scum not bussing a D1 lynch? If MZ is scum, you could also very well be scum so what you're saying is exactly true. Even if you're town, in my experience scum bus each other all the goddamn time. Like every game. Even when it's completely unnecessary. Just not good reasons for any of that. ehh. i actually think robik is pretty towny. ive kinda seen his scumgame and its not really like this at all. bussing is likely though. the later the game goes, the shittier the cells get, so scum might want to look good until later on down the line where they can take the win. | ||
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go town. peace. | ||
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On May 31 2014 14:53 27ninjabunnies wrote: Okay, what is your case on sloosh being scum over you or tamburini? uhm. also, sloosh's posting is mostly based on just looking good and then doing stuff that makes no sense. his read on mz is really herky-jerky and doesnt really make sense but for some reason he keeps pushing it up until he gets his vote down and then just leaves. i dont really see burini as scum now but he needs to post more because our cell sucks. | ||
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On May 31 2014 15:18 mtamburini wrote: Null have not gone through your filers, I dont like either of you equally because you both voted on the ML. Since we are 4th I can wait a bit to evaluate you 2. I probably will look into reasons why you voted on him, if you wanna tell me now and give me the tldr that cool or you can quote it like bunnies did go read my filter you slacker. | ||
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btw whos scum in the current lynch group? | ||
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On June 01 2014 11:03 slOosh wrote: But yes, the gut feeling is currently yes. why? | ||
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On June 01 2014 11:27 slOosh wrote: Yea ok this is really weird. Gut read, IAmRobik is scum because he doesn't have any analysis or meaningful reads or anything on the three lynch candidates. You see posts like these where he affirms it himself No nothing. But in that same post is something I'm finding incredibly towny: I find it hard to believe that scum would have the foresight to be able to call out something like this. Usually as scum you just sheep along other people, maybe parrot some words here and there if needed. All you need is to stick your vote on someone and just enough that people don't do a double take. Gaming the setup like that seems like a very advanced play for uhh what seems like a ... newer mafia player. So I'm mulling over that right now ... but chances are that he is probably scum because he hasn't done crap trying to figure out his own cell's alignment the day they are getting lynched. It's just weird. ##Vote: IAmRobik dot dot dot i really have no words for what i just read other than calling it all complete nonsense. | ||
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._. fine, ill humor you. youre calling a lot of the posts he has in his filter towny but youre still scumreading him. theres a huge problem with your case if you keep calling someone towny and then vote them anyway. | ||
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On June 01 2014 11:52 Holyflare wrote: He's saying one post in his filter is towny? That post is also an easy excuse for mafia to not sheep a read. He says he follows consensus on read for odin without reading and he also scum read mz. If he knew town consensus was on mz then it was very very very likely mz would get bussed so this is a bs excuse to use at the time. so robik is actually scum because he didn't want to believe that mz was getting bussed? and then he proceeded to vote odin anyway because his reads changed. rofl. okay. | ||
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On June 01 2014 12:13 Holyflare wrote: Read sloosh post. Votes stacked @5, robik knew consensus was on mz being scum. Nobody else looked like a real candidate. Bussing almost inevitable at that point. 2 cell members join, shouldn't change his read at all because bus very highly likely still. Robiks only reason for voting odin was the bussing. I made this post in my post of reads today. Also weird posts wave pointed out etc etc. how i read your case: "this persons reads shouldnt change because i dont think they shouldve changed because of a thing that happened in the thread." i guess contextual reads dont exist either. | ||
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On June 01 2014 12:30 Holyflare wrote: You are implying he had reads to begin with. Why are you defending robik so much. He had 0 reasons for mz to be town. Absolutely 0, he had said so himself. Consensus was on mz by almost everyone bar 2-3 ppl (a very likely number in a bussing situation) and he had a town read on the person he voted for. His only only only reason for switching is an inevitability that would happen to a caught scum anyway. Nothing to do with what I think should have happened, it's what is obvious to robik if he actually thought that process was occurring. If you don't think it's robik then why is it batsnacks? because the reasons people are scumreading him arent really consistent with his posts. he clearly had a reason for why he thought mz was town: the fact that both members of his cell were voting him. he had 0 reasons otherwise, which is something youre misrepresenting in your post. and the reason im defending him is because i dont think hes scum. lol. what a weird thing to say. though one thing i think is really funny: If you don't think it's robik then why is it batsnacks? lol. ##vote: holyflare | ||
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On June 01 2014 12:54 Holyflare wrote: Are you really being this obtuse? I'm saying that's exactly the reason WHY you should be scum reading him. His ONLY reason was that. His mindset is that there is a consensus on mz being scum. His mindset would include bussing as highly likely because if mz was scum he couldn't not be bussed so close to deadline. His first reaction to people in his cell voting for mz is not bussing, which is where his mindset was, it's that mz is town with 1....ONLY 1 "confirmed" mafia on his lynch. That is not consistent in the slightest. robik should probably post his own defense. and for the record, i find your logic for voting robik exceedingly thin. | ||
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robik still really needs to post. waiting this long is really bad for town. On June 01 2014 17:57 Palmar wrote: Holyflare 100% mafia based on his filter being too long. lol. do you have a real reason for thinking hes mafia though? | ||
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not going to vote again until robik comes back. this is getting ridiculous, the amount of afk is eating this game. -.-; | ||
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apparently this afk rampancy stuff has happened twice. | ||
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On June 02 2014 02:01 Palmar wrote: No not really just I'm not sure either of these other guys are. you said there were a couple posts that hf made that made you think he was mafia, but you dont even think hes mafia by anything other than poe... ... | ||
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On June 02 2014 02:15 layabout wrote: at the moment i am leaning HF as the scummer why? | ||
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i dont care about this at all, rofl. | ||
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this is ridiculous. | ||
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##vote endgame/draw | ||
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and respond to hf's accusations several pages back. | ||
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On June 02 2014 03:15 Palmar wrote: No one gives a shit about your identity. I'm just noticing now that you're a smurf nobody left does. :< | ||
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On June 02 2014 03:16 IAmRobik wrote: Well those considering doing it are really really really bad and don't know how to read the game. okay. why is batsnacks mafia? | ||
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On June 02 2014 03:19 IAmRobik wrote: Because it seemed like HF was actually trying to figure out the game and half the shit that batsnacks is saying makes no logical sense. make a case. | ||
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On June 02 2014 03:18 mtamburini wrote: ##vote: bat why do you keep voting people without giving anyone any reasoning? | ||
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On June 02 2014 03:27 Holyflare wrote: I'd rather you vote me to end the game quicker the game ends for you in a couple hours regardless of how we lynch, so at least try to get it right. | ||
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On June 02 2014 03:28 Holyflare wrote: No it doesn't because I'll still be reading. ![]() | ||
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On June 02 2014 03:42 Palmar wrote: Hope you're mafia hf otherwise your track record this game will be Lynch townie Get lynched as town Tell town to lynch another townie rofl. i love this post. | ||
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On June 02 2014 05:02 layabout wrote: In order for us to vote for robo i think we need to assume that he was mafia messing with us. For me at least, his observation that mafia were okay with the lynch and his attempt to swap the lynch makes plenty of sense as town. If he is mafia then everything he did around the lynch yesterday is super contrived unnecessary and silly. So i am pretty confident that IamRobotik is town. why do you have holyflare as scum? | ||
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On June 02 2014 05:27 layabout wrote: Batsnacks's talked at the start of the game about how we should act with regards to the mayor role. He put particular emphasis on momentum and using the collective townread on the mayor to town's advantage. This reminded me quite a bit of what it seems ritoky did and the notion that he was thinking along the same lines could point to them both being mafia. I quite like the stuff about ninja. I'm a bit unsure tbh. Yesterday i felt that mtamburuni acted on day1 like he had more information since he wasn't sharing much with the thread. Not so sure now If people have time could they comment on slOosh? why do you have holyflare as scum? | ||
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and i still want to know why layabout has holyflare as scum, because he has yet to answer the question. | ||
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its either poofter or VE. WoS going inactive was a worst case scenario for town because we have no information from the prior lynch to work off of. VE, you better bleed towniness today. this sucks. | ||
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On June 02 2014 13:14 27ninjabunnies wrote: Holyflare didn't die because of two reasons. 1. He was town 2. Last minute afkers and donkeys voted batsnacks. how on earth can you still believe that hf was town? | ||
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get on my level and see what needs to be seen, please. and i have yet to see a single reason as to why you townread holyflare. | ||
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On June 02 2014 14:20 VisceraEyes wrote: Reroute. I'm focusing my energy entirely into finding the scum from /my/ group because its lylo from now until eternity. I suggest EVERYONE do the same thing. Your group. Focus on it. well its not palmar. should be easy enough for you. and i already know who the scum is in my group. its sloosh. burini just needs to stop afking and actually do things because his complete inability to change his vote really crippled the town. i only have a townread on him by poe. | ||
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On June 02 2014 15:19 slOosh wrote: Palmar, at it's peak, on a scale of 1 to 10, how much did you want to lynch HolyFlare for being scum vs lynch HolyFlare regardless of what he is? why did you post this? | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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On June 02 2014 18:36 27ninjabunnies wrote: blah you found out im making up reasons as to why i didnt vote holyflare ok. scum. | ||
ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On June 02 2014 21:52 layabout wrote: if you are mafia and you afk an entire day and say you were "busy" when you cannot be lynch by game mechanics and last minute vote to decide the lynch that is just fucking disgusting and totally against the spirit of the game it's made worse by the fact that robo didn't vote and wave had to leave, plus that was pretty much gg yesterday why did you have holyflare as scum? | ||
ObiWanShinobi
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On June 03 2014 03:06 layabout wrote: I had the other 2 as town and it didn't seem like he had had much impact for someone with so many posts, it was a general feeling not particularly based on him more on the other two why did it take you such an outrageously long time to answer this question? and why did you say that i was misrepresenting you? | ||
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yeeeeeeeeee also where is everyone? rofl this game is dead. | ||
ObiWanShinobi
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k. im not gonna be around for deadline again so...hopefully this is right. ill probably be around tomorrow for a little bit. | ||
ObiWanShinobi
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seriously though nobody is playing. ill probably try to do one more read to finalize my reads but whatever. | ||
ObiWanShinobi
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##unvote ##vote ve hopefully he does a towny thing but w/e. | ||
ObiWanShinobi
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the deadlines really need to not be during my work hours. | ||
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