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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 28 2014 06:43 GMT
#490
I dunnooo people that haven't talked but you know kind of how they play or something
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 28 2014 16:13 GMT
#505
yup lynching palmar
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 28 2014 16:47 GMT
#507
no love bro
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 28 2014 16:47 GMT
#508
On May 28 2014 21:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
OdinOfPergo replaces thrawn2112.


you replaced in as mafia, how does it feeeeeeeel? :O
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 28 2014 17:24 GMT
#512
[image loading]

Nothing has totaallyyyyyy changed since this last read thing but people HAVE appeared and talked and then left, don't like it.

Cell A:

This cell should prove to be the most obvious cell there is. Ritoky pretty much universally town read and MZ was talking a lot (albeit pretty much nonsense). Odin might change things around a bit but in all honesty that is not likely to be the case because thrawn replaced and i'm gonna be a dick and say it's because he was mafia. Sorry, if you're town odin you need to somehow shit town rainbows in the next day or two.

Cell B:

Palmar refusing to read the mayor elections day but still acting like he's getting reads out of nothing. Says he was gonna read but then didn't. Trolling about. Would lynch even if wave gives me scummy feelz. Poofter told me before he was afraid to post as mafia and he didn't seem afraid in the early few hours of the game hence the early town read.

Cell C:

I am super town hero mayor. Batsnacks only post presented options for cell ordering which is pretty much just policy talk and half of it was erroneous. Nothing from him since but it's annoying because shiaopi was super tunnely based on nothing and got scum reads based off nothing so it's kind of hard for me to see him as town either -.- more talk plzzzzzzz


Cell D:

This cell should be last, always last. 0 town reads in it and all of them being equally absent. Sloosh did research, albeit wrong research, but looked like he had a train of thought to go along with which made me lean slightlyyy more towny on him but not enough to add him to green list. Smurf is just pretty much trolling and got all aggro on me when i town read sloosh for what i stated previously, looks jelly of town hunting skillz. Tambo..... rng and useless.


Cell E:

Bunnies pretty much towny for trying to actually see wtf is up with people and presenting reads. Liked her initial order etc. Layabout from UK so hard to hate but he has really done like nothing. Mderg on the other hand hasn't really said much but from the little he's said it looks like he's willing to start contributing so that cell can be left for one before last because 2/3 people are talking in it



Order:

A > B > C > E > D

The cells with the most people talking in should be easier to get +town points. Cell A is an obvious start and Cell B also has all 3 people talking too, even if palmar is being palmar. My cell also has had all 3 people kinda talk but it's not enough to get a good read on the other two yet so i've left that for 3rd so they get more time to actually say something. If the game continues past this then cell E should most definitely be before D because D is a massive coin flip at the moment whereas E has people talking.


As for mayor, I don't really care if it's me or ritoky as we both have similar ideas for ordering. I would prefer myself obviously because I know i'm town but I understand the people's fears of not trusting me so that's fine.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 28 2014 17:27 GMT
#513
wow you all appeared at the same time!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 28 2014 17:33 GMT
#516
hmmmm, i keep switching between scummy and towny on batsnacks for the reason that he put C first!

Like as a towny he'll be like: "oh, holyflare is kinda contributing and being useful but shiaopi is doing not much but baseless accusations, I'm town so that makes our cell easy!"

As mafia he'd be like: "oh, i'm mafia and holyflare is talking a lot but shiaopi's accusations are baseless and holyflare doesn't like him so it should be easy to mislynch shiaopi"

Can't decide. I think it's more likely the towny response but it's giving me a lot of hesitation.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 28 2014 17:35 GMT
#517
Can you explain your thought process of putting C first over A and B. Afaik there aren't that many people ACTUALLY town reading mz, just ritoky.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 28 2014 17:41 GMT
#520
On May 29 2014 02:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
also watch out for putting big name cells first. I read last game and palmar got a free pass day 1 because everyone wanted him to solve the game immediately.


cell mafia 1 was an abomination, nothing in that game was a proper mafia game
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 28 2014 17:42 GMT
#522
gonna ban you all for racism, the new rules do not approve of racism!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 28 2014 17:42 GMT
#523
if sloosh does not post soon after posting in detention then he could actually be mafia btw
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 28 2014 17:50 GMT
#525
On May 29 2014 02:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 02:41 Holyflare wrote:
On May 29 2014 02:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
also watch out for putting big name cells first. I read last game and palmar got a free pass day 1 because everyone wanted him to solve the game immediately.


cell mafia 1 was an abomination, nothing in that game was a proper mafia game


well so are you but everyone seems totally okay with that.


[image loading]

such mafia finding abilities, many skill!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 28 2014 17:53 GMT
#527
On May 29 2014 02:50 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 02:42 Holyflare wrote:
if sloosh does not post soon after posting in detention then he could actually be mafia btw

And if I post I'm mafia? Quite the loaded statement here.


how does that statement make sense :o? you posted in another game and hadn't posted here yet, people that don't really want to focus on a second game over their first are usually mafia who don't care but you've posted now (albeit nothing noteworthy) so it's all cool
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 28 2014 18:13 GMT
#529
On May 29 2014 02:58 mderg wrote:
Am I the only one here who wants cell C to go late? Right now I can´t read that at all.
Hf´s mayor campaign seemed townie but at some point I started to find it strange how he didn´t want to take responsibility for the cell order. So my read on him is kinda null.
batsnacks had some good guidelines about the cell order but it wasn´t really specific. I also didn´t agree with lynching the lowest contributing cells first. I´m slightly leaning towards town but I´m really not sure about that.
ShiaoPi is like a huge question mark for me right now.

So for me this is the last cell I´d want to go first.


did you read the last page? :p
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 28 2014 18:21 GMT
#531
On May 29 2014 03:17 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 02:53 Holyflare wrote:
On May 29 2014 02:50 slOosh wrote:
On May 29 2014 02:42 Holyflare wrote:
if sloosh does not post soon after posting in detention then he could actually be mafia btw

And if I post I'm mafia? Quite the loaded statement here.


how does that statement make sense :o? you posted in another game and hadn't posted here yet, people that don't really want to focus on a second game over their first are usually mafia who don't care but you've posted now (albeit nothing noteworthy) so it's all cool

The idea is that one could easily follow up with "hey he is mafia and only posting when called out". Which you would think people would realize is a pretty frail reason to lynch someone, but I've been mislynched enough times to overestimate the general townie's perceptive abilities.


well i didn't do that so whatever :D


On May 29 2014 02:58 mderg wrote:
Am I the only one here who wants cell C to go late? Right now I can´t read that at all.
Hf´s mayor campaign seemed townie but at some point I started to find it strange how he didn´t want to take responsibility for the cell order. So my read on him is kinda null.
batsnacks had some good guidelines about the cell order but it wasn´t really specific. I also didn´t agree with lynching the lowest contributing cells first. I´m slightly leaning towards town but I´m really not sure about that.
ShiaoPi is like a huge question mark for me right now.

So for me this is the last cell I´d want to go first.



^ On reflection this is really disingenuous. He starts by saying "Am i the only one here who wants cell C late" but not many people said C should go first. In fact, batsnacks is like the only person to say that and that was on the last page. If he DID in fact read the last page then what he said about batsnacks can't possibly be true. He just got specific and gave the order with C in front and explained his reasoning behind it.

I also explained the order i'd like and reads on people and why I picked that order but he left that out. So really, he's made up some strange things here.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 28 2014 18:21 GMT
#533
On May 29 2014 03:21 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 03:13 Holyflare wrote:
On May 29 2014 02:58 mderg wrote:
Am I the only one here who wants cell C to go late? Right now I can´t read that at all.
Hf´s mayor campaign seemed townie but at some point I started to find it strange how he didn´t want to take responsibility for the cell order. So my read on him is kinda null.
batsnacks had some good guidelines about the cell order but it wasn´t really specific. I also didn´t agree with lynching the lowest contributing cells first. I´m slightly leaning towards town but I´m really not sure about that.
ShiaoPi is like a huge question mark for me right now.

So for me this is the last cell I´d want to go first.


did you read the last page? :p

Of course.


well then you're most likely mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 28 2014 18:28 GMT
#536
On May 29 2014 03:24 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 03:21 Holyflare wrote:
On May 29 2014 03:17 slOosh wrote:
On May 29 2014 02:53 Holyflare wrote:
On May 29 2014 02:50 slOosh wrote:
On May 29 2014 02:42 Holyflare wrote:
if sloosh does not post soon after posting in detention then he could actually be mafia btw

And if I post I'm mafia? Quite the loaded statement here.


how does that statement make sense :o? you posted in another game and hadn't posted here yet, people that don't really want to focus on a second game over their first are usually mafia who don't care but you've posted now (albeit nothing noteworthy) so it's all cool

The idea is that one could easily follow up with "hey he is mafia and only posting when called out". Which you would think people would realize is a pretty frail reason to lynch someone, but I've been mislynched enough times to overestimate the general townie's perceptive abilities.


well i didn't do that so whatever :D


On May 29 2014 02:58 mderg wrote:
Am I the only one here who wants cell C to go late? Right now I can´t read that at all.
Hf´s mayor campaign seemed townie but at some point I started to find it strange how he didn´t want to take responsibility for the cell order. So my read on him is kinda null.
batsnacks had some good guidelines about the cell order but it wasn´t really specific. I also didn´t agree with lynching the lowest contributing cells first. I´m slightly leaning towards town but I´m really not sure about that.
ShiaoPi is like a huge question mark for me right now.

So for me this is the last cell I´d want to go first.



^ On reflection this is really disingenuous. He starts by saying "Am i the only one here who wants cell C late" but not many people said C should go first. In fact, batsnacks is like the only person to say that and that was on the last page. If he DID in fact read the last page then what he said about batsnacks can't possibly be true. He just got specific and gave the order with C in front and explained his reasoning behind it.

I also explained the order i'd like and reads on people and why I picked that order but he left that out. So really, he's made up some strange things here.

You´re making shit up now. When I say late, I mean late, not in the middle of the game. What I said about batsnacks was specifically about the post with the general guidelines.


I'm not making anything up. You just said you were up to date with the game and read the last page. On the last page batsnacks doesn't follow the metric about lynching the lowest contributing cells at all. He does quite the opposite. I started the day with no plan for cells because half the people in the game hadn't spoken yet. That should be obvious. I have made a post with a cell order that you should actually like but you didn't comment on that, you decided to pick up on the start of the game which shows you aren't evolving your reads as time goes on.

Why, if you are up to date, do your reads not account for anything that happened since the last time you posted?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 28 2014 18:45 GMT
#541
On May 29 2014 03:44 slOosh wrote:
batsnacks, why C before B?

On May 29 2014 02:39 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 02:35 Holyflare wrote:
Can you explain your thought process of putting C first over A and B. Afaik there aren't that many people ACTUALLY town reading mz, just ritoky.


I didn't put A first because I think the rikoty/MZ team has too much momentum against Odin and I think it would be smart to see where that momentum goes with an extra day. I think if rikoty or MZ are mafia we are making it too easy by letting them go first.

I put C before B because I feel like I personally have a better intuitive grasp on our group than B's group.



nobody reading maaaaan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 28 2014 18:57 GMT
#545
On May 29 2014 03:50 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 03:28 Holyflare wrote:
On May 29 2014 03:24 mderg wrote:
On May 29 2014 03:21 Holyflare wrote:
On May 29 2014 03:17 slOosh wrote:
On May 29 2014 02:53 Holyflare wrote:
On May 29 2014 02:50 slOosh wrote:
On May 29 2014 02:42 Holyflare wrote:
if sloosh does not post soon after posting in detention then he could actually be mafia btw

And if I post I'm mafia? Quite the loaded statement here.


how does that statement make sense :o? you posted in another game and hadn't posted here yet, people that don't really want to focus on a second game over their first are usually mafia who don't care but you've posted now (albeit nothing noteworthy) so it's all cool

The idea is that one could easily follow up with "hey he is mafia and only posting when called out". Which you would think people would realize is a pretty frail reason to lynch someone, but I've been mislynched enough times to overestimate the general townie's perceptive abilities.


well i didn't do that so whatever :D


On May 29 2014 02:58 mderg wrote:
Am I the only one here who wants cell C to go late? Right now I can´t read that at all.
Hf´s mayor campaign seemed townie but at some point I started to find it strange how he didn´t want to take responsibility for the cell order. So my read on him is kinda null.
batsnacks had some good guidelines about the cell order but it wasn´t really specific. I also didn´t agree with lynching the lowest contributing cells first. I´m slightly leaning towards town but I´m really not sure about that.
ShiaoPi is like a huge question mark for me right now.

So for me this is the last cell I´d want to go first.



^ On reflection this is really disingenuous. He starts by saying "Am i the only one here who wants cell C late" but not many people said C should go first. In fact, batsnacks is like the only person to say that and that was on the last page. If he DID in fact read the last page then what he said about batsnacks can't possibly be true. He just got specific and gave the order with C in front and explained his reasoning behind it.

I also explained the order i'd like and reads on people and why I picked that order but he left that out. So really, he's made up some strange things here.

You´re making shit up now. When I say late, I mean late, not in the middle of the game. What I said about batsnacks was specifically about the post with the general guidelines.


I'm not making anything up. You just said you were up to date with the game and read the last page. On the last page batsnacks doesn't follow the metric about lynching the lowest contributing cells at all. He does quite the opposite. I started the day with no plan for cells because half the people in the game hadn't spoken yet. That should be obvious. I have made a post with a cell order that you should actually like but you didn't comment on that, you decided to pick up on the start of the game which shows you aren't evolving your reads as time goes on.

Why, if you are up to date, do your reads not account for anything that happened since the last time you posted?

On the last page batsnacks doesn´t follow the metric about lynching the lowest contributing cells, that´s right. But that doesn´t change the fact that he wanted to do that earlier. And it´s not like it wasn´t mentioned before, so he only got rid of that idea after it got called out. My slight townread on him makes sense considering that he later posted an elaborated lynch order and I didn´t really like his start.

Why are you the one to decide which posts I should like? Your reads on cell A and B are not something I agree with. You basically have thrawn as mafia because he didn´t post at all and got replaced. Also I am not that sure about Palmar being scum. Why would he do the same shit as the game before where he was scum. It just feels strange.
Your actual reasoning for the cell order is based almost only on activity then. Activity itself doesn´t make cells easier to read (for me at least).
Tell me why I should like your post!


I never said you should like or not like things specifically because of what the content was, I'm saying that nothing in your reads accounts for that at all. Your only reasoning on your return is from stuff that had already happened when you appeared the first time and didn't comment on. Stuff happened since then which should or should not have affected the reads you returned with. You can't say

batsnacks had some good guidelines about the cell order but it wasn´t really specific. I also didn´t agree with lynching the lowest contributing cells first. I´m slightly leaning towards town but I´m really not sure about that.


but now suddenly say

My slight townread on him makes sense considering that he later posted an elaborated lynch order and I didn´t really like his start.


That doesn't make sense at all. You didn't mention his elaboration. Why would you even say that you didn't like that he didn't elaborate but then town read him for elaborating? Those 2 things do not add up. The whole first quote says nothing whatsoever about his new post making you town read him slightly, it's all attributed to his early game posts.

Activity is the only real metric you should actually be using because more activity is more posting is easier scum reading.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 28 2014 18:59 GMT
#548
The thing i dont like about HF is that he didnt want to propose a cell order, wants to be mayor, then says mayor is useless (i think bat also brought up this point). Ive pointed out many times mayor isnt useless, and im not sure entirely why many people think it is.


bunnies, the mayor is useless tbh, if a towny gets it that's cool and he follows the consensus and makes a good order! if a scum gets it we get a lot of information based on the new order they proposed and what they were saying before they get mayor!
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