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On June 01 2014 05:45 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2014 05:39 batsnacks wrote:I think she went tryhard at the end of the day just to look pro town while finishing MZ. The things she chooses to take issue with are really weak a lot of the time, like recent example: On May 31 2014 07:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 31 2014 07:02 mtamburini wrote: How about those reads you have bunnies? How well did they serve you this round? Probably shouldve RNG'd it at least I know I had a 50% chance of being right now that MZ flipped town.
## STATS I think my reads are pretty good. If you look at my analysis in each of the three, you can understand where my head is at. I was obviously wrong, but that still doesnt mean we should have rngd the lynch. What if you rngd and landed on MZ? Your rng would have been wrong. Just because you initially rngd the possible mafia, that doesnt make you right. That makes you 50% likely to be right, now that MZ flipped town. Her filter dives at the end of day 1 were just repeats of what everyone else was saying at the beginning of the day. She said every game tambo tries to get her lynched and every game she is town. That would annoy the shit out of me and i would be grated everytime that person posted something accusing me. Re:steveling golden sun You still haven't clarified why her putting in a lot of effort to go through filters and say what's already been said (an inevitability of going through a scrutinised filter) makes her mafia over the points i raised on mderg or the lack of anything from layabout.
If you're talking about your conversation with mderg today, I don't think you have anything on him. He said he had a feeling about Palmar being town and I think you tried to create something out of that.
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I've already read everyone's filter. My conclusion is that bunnies is mafia in Cell E. I understand the points you are trying to make about mderg but bunnies is still scummier to me.
Lets talk about Cell D. You said you honestly have no clue. If Cell D were today and the deadline was now, who would you vote?
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On June 01 2014 07:04 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2014 06:17 batsnacks wrote: I've already read everyone's filter. My conclusion is that bunnies is mafia in Cell E. I understand the points you are trying to make about mderg but bunnies is still scummier to me.
Lets talk about Cell D. You said you honestly have no clue. If Cell D were today and the deadline was now, who would you vote? Fortunately I'm in a spot where i don't have to do that. So you say bunnies is mafia but only give reasons why she is likely town. So what about layabout? Sloosh, while i think he's scum that doesn't stop me arguing over points using logic that aren't mathematically sound when the person pushing it says they are.
Bolded part are all your words, not mine. Don't give me this crap like "if you can really say bunnies is mafia over mderg and layabout you honestly have no concept of what's going on in this game at all." That's the rhetorical equivalent of you mashing your keyboard because someone disagreed with you. Have a little more respect for people's opinions and why they are expressing them. No one is going to listen to you if you just shit on every opinion that's different from yours. Do you think me calling bunnies scum helps me or scum team at all? It doesn't. I shared that information with you because you told me who you thought was scum. I think bunnies is mafia because even though she says a lot of STUFF, most of the stuff she says is weak, unnecessary, and doesn't move town forward in any positive direction.
And why wouldn't you tell me who you think mafia is in group D? Why is it fortunate that you're in a spot where you "don't have to?" I want to compare my reads with yours.
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On June 01 2014 10:47 slOosh wrote: Seems like he doesn't want to engage with reads either because he is scum and doesn't want to talk reads or he firmly believes robik is scum.
Is Robik scum?
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I would rather have your gut feeling of yes/no in this moment. It's easy to argue anything if there's time to prepare.
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ebwop: I know that every town member, by now, has one town member in each group they think is the scummiest. I would hope so at least if everyone has been keeping up with the thread. I'm afraid some people aren't sharing those insights because they are afraid they will get punished for it because they didn't offer enough hard reasoning.
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ebwop2: It sounds awkward saying "town member" twice I hope everyone understands what I meant with that first sentence.
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Robik please answer:
If I had been voting ritoky yesterday, you would have voted MZ, right?
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Who do you think is mafia in D and E?
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On June 01 2014 23:22 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2014 22:56 mtamburini wrote: Bunnies you think HF is town I think Robik is town. What's your opinion on bats + Show Spoiler + Just semi skimming his filter (because I have work in thirty mins and woke up late) i actually like him/ not like him
There's some points that actually make sense.
So when he was running for mayor, he didn't want ritoky's cell to go first due to he thought there was too much momentum going against odin right now, i agree with this, but im not sure if we have same reasons.
If odin was mafia, bat could have proposed cell A going differently because he wanted to get pressure off of his mafia partner, and give him more time to seem townie.
If ritoky was mafia, batsnacks as town would have done town a favor.
So two scenerios i see there.
I didnt like how he placed his cell first, when i feel like there was less info on them as well.
Now, the thing i dont like about you asking this, is just because you are viewing robik as town, doesnt mean i am, so why focus on batsnacks? Why not ask for my read on robik, too?
And you never mentioned your read on holyflare, so why not ask what my read is on him? Or give your own read?
What's your view on holyflare, robik, and bat?
This is the primary reason I wanted my cell to go first on day 1:
On May 29 2014 05:11 batsnacks wrote: We've got less that 2 hours.
Just consider this: What is the advantage of lynching the mayor's group first?
Lets assume that most people vote for the mayor because they believe he/she is town. If the mayor is in the cell to be lynched on day 1, that means that the first group up for lynch already has one person that the majority read as town. This gives town a starting advantage. If town can get the first victory, that is a lot of pressure on mafia. I would argue town winning day 1 is more important than town winning any other day, except for LYLO. Building momentum is important. Going into day 1 with a town read (the mayor) is an advantage. Consider this.
I still believe it is advantageous for town if the mayor's group is first.
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On June 02 2014 01:28 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2014 00:12 mtamburini wrote:On June 01 2014 23:22 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 01 2014 22:56 mtamburini wrote: Bunnies you think HF is town I think Robik is town. What's your opinion on bats Just semi skimming his filter (because I have work in thirty mins and woke up late) i actually like him/ not like him There's some points that actually make sense. So when he was running for mayor, he didn't want ritoky's cell to go first due to he thought there was too much momentum going against odin right now, i agree with this, but im not sure if we have same reasons. If odin was mafia, bat could have proposed cell A going differently because he wanted to get pressure off of his mafia partner, and give him more time to seem townie. If ritoky was mafia, batsnacks as town would have done town a favor. So two scenerios i see there. I didnt like how he placed his cell first, when i feel like there was less info on them as well. Now, the thing i dont like about you asking this, is just because you are viewing robik as town, doesnt mean i am, so why focus on batsnacks? Why not ask for my read on robik, too? And you never mentioned your read on holyflare, so why not ask what my read is on him? Or give your own read? What's your view on holyflare, robik, and bat? If I can trust you and you can trust me on the town read we have on one person in the cell it's simply Poe. I do feel that if you are town you've allowed HF to pocket you due to the fact of my excessive tunnel of you which makes me think he is more scum then bat. The only thing you've really done this entire game is tunnel bunnies for similar reactions that she had in golden sun (which again you did really not much in) so yes, I told you to stop tunneling on: A) a person who i think is town B) someone who is in the last cell It's my cell today and only 1/3 (2 at a stretch) people are trying to solve the game in this cell while everybody else twiddles their thumbs or afk's. You need to be commenting on why you think people other than bunnies are mafia because if "hf is pocketing bunnies" like you imply then you've spent the entirety of your filter tunneling someone who is town and wasting time.
I'm getting tired of these dumb passive aggressive comments you make all the time. Half of your 50 page filter is probably bitching about how you're the only person trying.
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Most of your filter is about activity. Everything you said in that post above me is about activity. All of your logic seems to stem from how active people are playing and you don't consider anything else. If someone is active, then by your logic they are automatically more townie than someone who is playing less active. You have the highest activity in this game, therefore you are the towniest person in this game, by your logic.
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##vote IAmRobik
I will unvote if Robik tells me who he thinks is mafia in D and E.
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I'm mostly just curious if I'm right about D and E.
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##unvote
I have this awful feeling that Palmar is town and Holyflare, sloOsh, and 27ninjabunnies are all mafia.
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I've always considered "end the game now pls it's over anyway" comments really scummy.
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On June 02 2014 03:32 Palmar wrote: Don't really care what you've always considered
You cared enough to comment.
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On June 02 2014 03:45 Holyflare wrote: Yeh well that's not a problem when the the first townie couldn't be bothered to respond to anything, i don't care about ending this game sooner, and town should absolutely lynch you regardless of alignment
I don't agree with that last part.
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On June 02 2014 03:51 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2014 03:49 batsnacks wrote:On June 02 2014 03:45 Holyflare wrote: Yeh well that's not a problem when the the first townie couldn't be bothered to respond to anything, i don't care about ending this game sooner, and town should absolutely lynch you regardless of alignment I don't agree with that last part. Don't really care.
Cared enough to comment.
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On June 02 2014 03:53 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2014 03:52 batsnacks wrote:On June 02 2014 03:51 Holyflare wrote:On June 02 2014 03:49 batsnacks wrote:On June 02 2014 03:45 Holyflare wrote: Yeh well that's not a problem when the the first townie couldn't be bothered to respond to anything, i don't care about ending this game sooner, and town should absolutely lynch you regardless of alignment I don't agree with that last part. Don't really care. Cared enough to comment.  No i cared enough to inform you that i don't value your opinion on this matter.
"i cared" - Holyflare
Also you say if I'm mafia I should vote you. You say if I'm town I should vote you.
Right now I just want to vote the people that would make me the maddest if they won as mafia. That would be you, Palmar, sloosh, and bunnies.
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