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On May 29 2014 10:37 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 10:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote: lol my cell sucks.
sloosh is probably the scum in it though. his filter is basically nothing but setup speculation and useless garbage, basically someone posting enough to seem town without actually doing anything. its a bunch of useless, generic advice made to look like he was doing things, when in reality he was just actively lurking. its pretty clear that he opted out of the discourse without looking like he was doing so.
burini's filter really isnt good either. i dont really care about him right now though. burini, post more.
my filter isnt much better except it will be at the time of posting this. lol. Makes sense. K actually though Group A is bugging the shit out of me I want that solved. What are the chances ritoky has the massive cohones to run for mayor simply to exit the game and win his group? MZ I am having way more trouble with now since his lack of posting even though I had mind-meld on him, and Odin doesn't look particularly bad.
ritoky is probably town imo. i might actually cry if someone so american was scum. apple pies and such.
id have to filter dive the other two. idk.
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On May 29 2014 10:42 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 10:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On May 29 2014 10:36 Holyflare wrote: i am scum and im gonna take potshots at you 'cause you found me so fast.
i am also a terrorist. geez calm down already someone help this guy is pointing out my scumpartner and i need to figure out how to save him.
wat.
im actually going to post a big fun case on you in like an hour or two or so.
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On May 29 2014 10:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 10:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On May 29 2014 10:42 Holyflare wrote:On May 29 2014 10:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On May 29 2014 10:36 Holyflare wrote: i am scum and im gonna take potshots at you 'cause you found me so fast.
i am also a terrorist. geez calm down already someone help this guy is pointing out my scumpartner and i need to figure out how to save him. wat. im actually going to post a big fun case on you in like an hour or two or so. Actual meaning: i'll post a big case on you if I figure out something you said was scummy or not/ use the things you post within the next hour. And if i cant find anything i did say an hour or two...or so... So maybe even more. Btw: if you cant tell by this post, obi, i dont necessarily like you.
i thought what was had was special.
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On May 29 2014 10:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 10:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 29 2014 10:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On May 29 2014 10:42 Holyflare wrote:On May 29 2014 10:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On May 29 2014 10:36 Holyflare wrote: i am scum and im gonna take potshots at you 'cause you found me so fast.
i am also a terrorist. geez calm down already someone help this guy is pointing out my scumpartner and i need to figure out how to save him. wat. im actually going to post a big fun case on you in like an hour or two or so. Actual meaning: i'll post a big case on you if I figure out something you said was scummy or not/ use the things you post within the next hour. And if i cant find anything i did say an hour or two...or so... So maybe even more. Btw: if you cant tell by this post, obi, i dont necessarily like you. i thought what we had was special.
ebwop.
also good luck pushing on me, newbie.
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On May 29 2014 10:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 10:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On May 29 2014 10:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On May 29 2014 10:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 29 2014 10:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On May 29 2014 10:42 Holyflare wrote:On May 29 2014 10:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On May 29 2014 10:36 Holyflare wrote: i am scum and im gonna take potshots at you 'cause you found me so fast.
i am also a terrorist. geez calm down already someone help this guy is pointing out my scumpartner and i need to figure out how to save him. wat. im actually going to post a big fun case on you in like an hour or two or so. Actual meaning: i'll post a big case on you if I figure out something you said was scummy or not/ use the things you post within the next hour. And if i cant find anything i did say an hour or two...or so... So maybe even more. Btw: if you cant tell by this post, obi, i dont necessarily like you. i thought what we had was special. ebwop. also good luck pushing on me, newbie. Haha. Sorry hun. What we had wasn't special enough. Plus there is someone I like a lot more in this forum than you. Who said I was pushing anywhere. And even if I was, I can take you. I may be a newbie, but don't underestimate me.
rofl. ok.
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On May 29 2014 11:02 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 10:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On May 29 2014 10:42 Holyflare wrote:On May 29 2014 10:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On May 29 2014 10:36 Holyflare wrote: i am scum and im gonna take potshots at you 'cause you found me so fast.
i am also a terrorist. geez calm down already someone help this guy is pointing out my scumpartner and i need to figure out how to save him. wat. im actually going to post a big fun case on you in like an hour or two or so. Any chance you might post a big fun case or anything on the group we actually are lynching between today? I am excited to hear your case though.
ill get to it when i feel like it.
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chainsaw defenses are silly ways of accusing someone of being scum.
associative reads arent good either, especially pre-flip.
you even admit that its dumb and then you push it anyway.
arent you supposed to be good?
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also im gonna put off my cases because skyrim.
ill be on later though. eventually.
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On May 29 2014 11:14 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 11:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote: chainsaw defenses are silly ways of accusing someone of being scum.
associative reads arent good either, especially pre-flip.
you even admit that its dumb and then you push it anyway.
arent you supposed to be good? LOL Are you Robik? You have to be one of the newbies to say something like this.
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ok well i just passed out for like an hour or two so ill probably do my case tomorrow or something.
ive gotta get up reasonably early so ill be back tomorrow.
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im also glad to see this game is moving along at a breakneck pace.
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man i sure would hate it if somebody gave me free healthcare.
ok im gone for real this time.
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hi.
im back for real now and im about to obvious town the hell out of this thread.
prepare your butts. also, fun fact:
On May 30 2014 06:57 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2014 06:54 Holyflare wrote:On May 30 2014 06:41 IAmRobik wrote: Put me in coach!
I wasn't gonna sub in cause I was scared of rolling maf, but I heard I would be in a group with holyflare and I snap-accepted. Then Artanis told me I'm town and the fact that there's a 50% chance of HF being mafia and a chance for me to shit all over him if he is makes me super duper happy. there is no way on this planet that you are town Artanis didn't tell me that we are playing this game on another planet
i am now multiaccounting. be afraid. be very afraid.
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On May 30 2014 11:47 WaveofShadow wrote: HF I hate playing together with you STOP IT
whats the problem?
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im still here.
im working on a big case right now, its gonna take a while.
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ill give you a hint.
it starts with h and its you actually.
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On May 30 2014 12:44 Holyflare wrote: damn you found me plz dotn post teh best case ever people will know im mafia
no dice.
also the scum in cell a is meapak and ill get to that when i get the chance.
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Holyflare
below is a quote of his mayoral platform:
+ Show Spoiler +On May 28 2014 07:01 Holyflare wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SbSFDW4.png) VOTE HOLYFLARE FOR MAYOR - Do you like winning games?
- Do you want someone in power who is charming, friendly and a sexy beast?
- Do you want a free and easy point in towns favour when it comes to winning my cell?
- Do you want someone that will listen to the people when it comes to deciding the lynch order?
- Do you want a romantic walk on the beach anytime you and me are together and a beach is nearby?
If you answered yes to any of those questions then I am the man for you. If you click my profile you will see that I have an enormous amount of wins in a row. This is purely because of the fact that i'm good. If I'm mafia i'll be bussing and you should be getting free points regardless. I love to bus and this setup is majorly favoured for that. If I'm town I'll be right anyway so what have you got to lose? It's win/win for everybody! Everybody but scum that is. We hate those scum. Not only that but I've already crumbed my role in this post. Is it not obvious? I'm green. Green is the colour of town. I am town. You should love to follow someone who is good and is town. So, naturally, you should follow me. Follow me to victory that is. Who likes winning? I do! In a recent survey of everyone on this planet, people had the following things to say about my mafia abilities: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/16LdNY6.jpg) Do you SEE THAT? I'm a team-player, a proactive problem-solver! Most importantly, I am hard. I am so very aroused at the mere idea of winning that it's simply the only thing I can do. Will you join me? Will you, too, feel this hard? A vote for me is a vote for winning. ##Vote Holyflare
at a glance, it looks really nice and well put together so it makes you think that he cares about the position and the fact that hes trying to solve the game. the reality of it is that theres no content at all in this post, or almost any of the posts that follow:
What is time? Time is just an arbitrary parameter by which many people live their lives. I transcend time. What more could you ask for in a mayor than someone who transcends the paramater by which humanity lives? I am no human. I am Holyflare. I am your next mayor.
Here's the thing. As your future mayor I know what people want. People want to be listened to, to be acknowledged. As a man elected by the people I am a servant of the people. I will follow the whim of the majority for that is the honourable leader that I am.
Fail to plan, plan to fail. That's the motto most live by. I am not most. I foresee that a pre-emptive plan will be useless in a game such as this. While I am your future mayor, I am not omniscient!
It is with this in mind that we play out the day like any other, we make reads and collect data. TOGETHER we shall bring peace to this mafia ridden town and recover from the travesty of Cell 1.0. This is a democracy. I am just a pretty face for the people.
obviously he wants the position, but the underlying mindset is that he wants it without giving the town anything in return. he eventually gave up running for mayor when ritoky started rolling around the thread and tryharding, and trying to solve the game on day 1 is generally a town trait.
eventually, holyflare gives us something:
I see that you will be a thorn in my election. That being said, I do not mind your aprehension, it is justified! However, I stake my reputation on this game, I will not make this another loss like last time! I will divulge to you the secrets of this game.
There are several approaches you can take:
A) The first lynches will be the ones you think are fairly obvious and will net town a few points. B) The first 1 or 2 lynches will be coinflippy as you get rid of useless points of contention.
I suggest going with A) with the caveat that you let the talkers stay in the game to figure it out and not leave the weakest people till last.
nothing useful here. just a bunch of useless, generic advice that makes people think youre interested in the town agenda. its really easy to speculate on setup while looking town because it makes people think youre doing stuff. cell is still new so people dont know what to do, so its really easy to throw out cell layout advice and look like youre contributing.
later on he wound up dropping his candidacy because he wasnt "really" running for mayor.
Because i "ran" for mayor lol?
Have you even read the people in my group? :pppp
what? what does that even mean? how does that even coincide with his earlier post, where he posted his own artwork and went and bbcoded everything? the reality of it is that he realized someone was running for office based on content and he couldnt keep up with that so he dropped out of the running.
bunnies, the mayor is useless tbh, if a towny gets it that's cool and he follows the consensus and makes a good order! if a scum gets it we get a lot of information based on the new order they proposed and what they were saying before they get mayor!
obviously it was important enough for you to want to make a giant, well-written albeit empty post about it.
then theres the fact that hes trying to push an agenda of buddying throughout his game, as evidenced here:
hahaha odin is so cute <3
Dick move analysis suggests everyone that was around at the start of the game is very likely town. GG scum!
This is not true. It's a conspiracy to subdue the women, we put genders on our voting forms for "statistical benefit" but the real secret is that we just throw the womens votes in the bin. True freedom. http://imgur.com/kdgDGNRget added to my list, stop being poopy people!
(bonus points here because hes running his platformless mayoral campaign as well)
Simply because I do not care to mess with such trivialities as lynch orders when I could be discovering who is mafia! I will listen to what everyone else thinks and we'll make an informed decision based on what everyone has posted.
I am always at maximum hardness which is why I always win.
after rereading a bunch of holyflare's games, the common theme between his scum games is that he pushes an agenda of buddying people and winning votes rather than trying to solve the game. the brevity of his filter looks good from a town point of view, but the reality of it is that hes pushing his agenda under the veneer of being the "big brother" of the thread.
then there are his interactions with cell D:
Cell d is literally the shittest group ever in the history of shit cell groups and i said it would be that way and ritoky still ignored it to put an easy free point group at the end.
tbh, i can see where he is coming from here, because none of us have done anything and we sho-
...wait:
Yay sloosh stepped up! Now we can actually kill smurf or tambo (smurf smurf smurf, probs tambo)
wat. how is this consistent with his views of a shitty cell D? sloosh does a thing and its fine, but apparently cell d is still a shit group because he doesnt like it apparently.
i dont draw conclusions between unflipped players, but that doesnt really erase the fact that something happened here in terms of how holyflare's demeanor towards cell d, especially when he reacts to my initial (content-loaded) posts earlier in the thread:
Well you're not much better. The only contribution after saying you're going to look much more towny is pointing out things that have already been said about your group which contains 2 lurkers. Nothing about the 3 lynches ahead of it and especially nothing about the lynch that is going on today.
OWS posted a case so that means that he doesnt look good. sloosh posts a (shit)case and he "steps up?" wut? this doesnt really make sense when he wants people to do things in their cells only to try to discredit them and the lack of interest in gathering more information in the thread doesnt make sense from a town point of view.
instead, he attempts to throw doubt on someone in a mostly inactive cell before someone else "steps up" with information that doesn't really make sense and then townreads them for it. the townread itself was horrifically inaccurate because misinformation (despite the fact that mz is actually probably mafia) isnt good for the thread because people will just poke holes in terrible cases, or end up following said terrible cases to mislynches.
then there's his reaction to said townread:
this statement does not indicate trying to explain a poor read. its a justification of a rather poor read by trying to play it off as a joke. HF actually has no idea how to react to this accusation but tries to play it off anyway. its an indication that he knows more than he actually should.
and then theres the entire thirteenth page of his filter which is basically just a load of active lurking to boost his postcount. not good. not necessary. not town.
lynch holyflare when his cell rolls around. kthx.
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On May 30 2014 23:25 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2014 11:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:hi. im back for real now and im about to obvious town the hell out of this thread. prepare your butts. also, fun fact: On May 30 2014 06:57 IAmRobik wrote:On May 30 2014 06:54 Holyflare wrote:On May 30 2014 06:41 IAmRobik wrote: Put me in coach!
I wasn't gonna sub in cause I was scared of rolling maf, but I heard I would be in a group with holyflare and I snap-accepted. Then Artanis told me I'm town and the fact that there's a 50% chance of HF being mafia and a chance for me to shit all over him if he is makes me super duper happy. there is no way on this planet that you are town Artanis didn't tell me that we are playing this game on another planet i am now multiaccounting. be afraid. be very afraid. Holy shit. WHen I read your post that WoS quoted in your filter, I had to take a doubletake and make sure that I wasn'ta lready in the game LOL
we are now the best of friends and noone will ever tear us apart.
also im gonna throw a yolo vote down:
##vote: meapak
ive got this guy by poe and because of the plot hole spackle he has in his reads.
also lol @ poofter for thinking were lynching me because mz is mafia. rofl.
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On May 31 2014 02:04 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 01:57 Palmar wrote: Btw if MZ flips town, it was ritoky. Odin is basically clear. I'm all aboard the lynch meapak train,but the fact that no one really wants to lynch anyone else concerns me. Either there's some megabus action going on, or meapak is town.
how many people arent voting?
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