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mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 08 2014 22:08 GMT
#791
On May 09 2014 07:01 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 06:55 mderg wrote:
On May 09 2014 06:26 Holyflare wrote:
Mderg you think Steveling is mafia, pretty obvious at that. So then you also think that me and poofter could also contain scum because of buddying. That therefore means we are super hardcore bussing scum buddy Steveling then?

Is that what you're suggesting? Or are you presenting an alternate theory or what?

Yes, that´s what I´m suggesting. It´s not that unlikely considering how obvious steve´s scumminess is.


Ok, that's just a pretty odd conclusion to have :p

The buddying you mention between me and poofter, where does that occur? I know me and koshi were talking about him previously but what input do you have to that discussion? Do you agree with koshi that poofter mentioning vivax was town because of steve looking like mafia was a case of too much information on poofters part then?

If steve is really obviously mafia, why is koshi defending him so much?


not sure if buddying is the right word... you and poofter had the same view on about everything on the last few pages.

No.

Probably something along the lines of steve being "too scummy to be scum"
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 09 2014 07:56 GMT
#857
On May 09 2014 11:53 Tehpoofter wrote:
@mderg what do you think about Oats? Do you agree with HF's town read on him?

No, I´m unsure about him. His overall mindset doesn´t seem too bad but his early case on hf and hammering vivax make it impossible for me to read him as town.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 09 2014 08:22 GMT
#861
On May 09 2014 17:14 Steveling wrote:
Especially after no one was apprehended for the bibax lynch.
The only guy who got spanked for it was me and I was the only one to read him correctly.

that´s because you read him correctly without giving proper reasons and still voted him.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 09 2014 08:40 GMT
#864
On May 09 2014 17:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Man poof keeps flipping from saying things from the perspective that steve is town to steve is scum. Its weird shit.
mderg, why am I scummy for making a case on a townie and hammering a townie. It feels like you are looking too hard for reasons to avoid calling me town at this point.

I didn´t like the reasoning for that case at all. It´s not that you made the case but how you made the case.
Also you hammered vivax while there was still discussion going on about the lynch. So you reduced the time town had to figure things out.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 09 2014 21:58 GMT
#951
On May 09 2014 19:38 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 19:05 Koshi wrote:
1) So scum tends to RB themselves when there is a possible Cop, Parity cop and doc in the game.

2) Ok. So a town got misslynched, you want to see where scum would put there vote and you start with assuming that everybody that is not on Vivax is town.

Why is mderg town in that post?


They could RB anyone or they could know there isn't a RB in the game... the important part of the quest was WHY HE BELIEVED YOU SO INSTANTLY. Maybe I'm just a suspicious guy but I don't believe shit like that I'd definitely say it as mafia for a number of reasons.

I don´t think believing the rb claim makes him scummy in any way.

On May 09 2014 23:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
yo hf you wanna lynch poof instead?

He says todays lynch is boring because he already knows steve's alignment. But when hes talking about steve, he keeps switching from steve is scum, therefore something something something to, steve is town, therefore something something something.

##vote Poof

I don´t think you can deduct poofter being scum from him saying that todays lynch is boring. In a way it is boring because this is almost entirely focused on steve and the ones scumreading steve.


On May 10 2014 02:34 Holyflare wrote:
I'm swearing on my life that I'm town

I really hate this post! This just seems like an asshole move.
On May 10 2014 02:49 Holyflare wrote:
Literally just "gambled" my life and now you selectively choose when it's cheating or not? Rofl.

It´s not even close to what gumshoe did in cell mini. He was under heavy pressure and probably would have been lynched, if not for swearing on his life. This is just out of the blue swearing on your life without any emotion behind it. So of course this is not the same "cheating".



Overall my reads didn´t change at all in the last hours. Seems like it´s about time to get this over with

##vote: steve
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 09 2014 23:39 GMT
#961
On May 10 2014 08:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
@mderg what do you think of Koshi/Steve/Oats a little bit Cav's push against me? Where do you sit with them? I saw you didn't agree with Oats' push but what do you think about the others?

koshi´s push has too little solid reasoning behind it. I don´t like how he´s tunneling you, not even accomplishing much.

steve I´m not sure what to think about his reads. He made almost no sense to me this game. So I can´t really comment on that.

I can see where cav is coming from regarding his comment about you rolefishing. His push is too weak to warrant a lynch, though. If I´d have you as my top scumread his reasoning would reinforce my suspicion. As it stands now it´s just 1 or 2 small details that could just mean nothing.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 10 2014 20:25 GMT
#1010
I certainly didn´t think steve would flip town...
I think it´s between poofter/oats/hf. Right now I´m not sure what to think. Poofter looks slightly more scummy to me than the others. I don´t know why he waited to vote steve until he could hammer him. This is really difficult to decide, though, I have to wait to see who gets killed. Maybe that can clear some things up.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 10 2014 22:52 GMT
#1014
On May 11 2014 06:55 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2014 05:25 mderg wrote:
I certainly didn´t think steve would flip town...
I think it´s between poofter/oats/hf. Right now I´m not sure what to think. Poofter looks slightly more scummy to me than the others. I don´t know why he waited to vote steve until he could hammer him. This is really difficult to decide, though, I have to wait to see who gets killed. Maybe that can clear some things up.



Can you expand why I look scummier? Not saying I look clear I did call out Steve day 1 and push him day 2 but I was attempting to reach out to him he just kinda rolled over and complained never made other cases. I'm not one of those people who is going to say "he fucked up he should have not played so scummy" its partly on me for not realizing where his frustration was coming from. (although I would probably still lynch him again cause I would never want to be beaten by a scum that defends like that)

It´s honestly just a gut feeling. There´s no solid case I can make.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 11 2014 18:03 GMT
#1030
I´m Grizzled Veteran.

The oats kill is kinda strange. I don´t think there was any indication of him having a power role and he was one of the top lynch targets. Makes me feel like it´s poofter trying to divert attention by killing his biggest scumread. Why would scum kill their next and probably easiest lynch target? Because they seem slightly less scummy doing so.
This is based on assumptions but definitely makes sense for me.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 11 2014 19:27 GMT
#1039
Reading through your posts right now. Will need a few minutes.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 11 2014 19:47 GMT
#1040
On May 12 2014 03:32 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 08:54 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 09 2014 08:49 Holyflare wrote:
On May 09 2014 08:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
poofter scum.
Steve is a policy lynch at this point tbh.

Can you explain?


Gotta setup tomorrow's mislynch. Oats planning ahead here.

Could you give your opinion on this?
You have to know that Poofter at this moment got Steveling as 85% scum.

Why does Poofter say that Oats is setting up tomorrows misslynch?

1) Doesn't this imply poofter knows today is a misslynch? As in 'tomorrow scum needs 1 more misslynch and Oats is making that happen".
2) Why would Poofter think he is going to get "misslynched" tomorrow when he is the one that pushed Steve? Does he know Steve is town and therefore after this lynch he will become a target? Looks like it.

1) This would be easier to judge, if I heard him say it, rather than seeing the text.
2) This seems solid. There would be no need to worry about getting lynched, if steve were to flip scum.

On May 12 2014 03:41 Koshi wrote:
Who is poofter his second scummer?
WAIT
Who is poofter his first scummer now that Steveling is dead?

Nobody knows. He is letting it shine through that it is me.

Give me 1 post Poofter has quoted from me and said it came from scum for x reason? Nothing.

The only thing Poofter is calling me scum for is "Guys I am town, Koshi is scum for being so wrong"

That's the only thing.

Yeah, it didn´t seem like he had any clear scumreads besides steve and (after that oats). It´s odd but it could also just be that he didn´t have another clear sumread.

I agree his reasoning for calling you scum is unconvincing.




Overall there´s solid reasons why poofter could be scum. There´s nothing that makes him scum by itself but the small pieces together paint a scummy picture.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 11 2014 21:52 GMT
#1051
On May 12 2014 06:18 Tehpoofter wrote:
(Steve was my biggest scum read but still)

just for clarification: I meant at the time of the night kill, when steve was already lynched
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 11 2014 22:13 GMT
#1056
On May 12 2014 06:56 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 06:52 mderg wrote:
On May 12 2014 06:18 Tehpoofter wrote:
(Steve was my biggest scum read but still)

just for clarification: I meant at the time of the night kill, when steve was already lynched


Ok so did you think Oats was a scum read of mine from day 2? or only after the night kill?

It didn´t seem like a clear scum read. It seemed like you thought he was suspicious but no clear scum read.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 11 2014 22:33 GMT
#1062
On May 12 2014 07:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 04:47 mderg wrote:
On May 12 2014 03:32 Koshi wrote:
On May 09 2014 08:54 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 09 2014 08:49 Holyflare wrote:
On May 09 2014 08:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
poofter scum.
Steve is a policy lynch at this point tbh.

Can you explain?


Gotta setup tomorrow's mislynch. Oats planning ahead here.

Could you give your opinion on this?
You have to know that Poofter at this moment got Steveling as 85% scum.

Why does Poofter say that Oats is setting up tomorrows misslynch?

1) Doesn't this imply poofter knows today is a misslynch? As in 'tomorrow scum needs 1 more misslynch and Oats is making that happen".
2) Why would Poofter think he is going to get "misslynched" tomorrow when he is the one that pushed Steve? Does he know Steve is town and therefore after this lynch he will become a target? Looks like it.

1) This would be easier to judge, if I heard him say it, rather than seeing the text.
2) This seems solid. There would be no need to worry about getting lynched, if steve were to flip scum.

On May 12 2014 03:41 Koshi wrote:
Who is poofter his second scummer?
WAIT
Who is poofter his first scummer now that Steveling is dead?

Nobody knows. He is letting it shine through that it is me.

Give me 1 post Poofter has quoted from me and said it came from scum for x reason? Nothing.

The only thing Poofter is calling me scum for is "Guys I am town, Koshi is scum for being so wrong"

That's the only thing.

Yeah, it didn´t seem like he had any clear scumreads besides steve and (after that oats). It´s odd but it could also just be that he didn´t have another clear sumread.

I agree his reasoning for calling you scum is unconvincing.





Overall there´s solid reasons why poofter could be scum. There´s nothing that makes him scum by itself but the small pieces together paint a scummy picture.




1) The first thing wow that sounds really townie where you said that you would have to hear me say it rather than read it. That screams of objective thinking. That is very true. I do generally talk better than I type (its why I play video mafia more than forum)
2) The time that Oats made that post I thought his push on me was going to be the same regardless of the flip on Steve. The way he said it was "policy" to me read "I don't care we have to lynch steve just because then we go for poofter" so like in my eyes he thinks I'm scum either way. I will however concede that from your point of view you don't know I'm town so it might sound different to you.



I don't understand how you can say the bolded green than red. Do I not have any clear scum reads or am I calling Koshi scum for unconvincing reasons. Like as far as I can tell having STeve as scum then Oats and Koshi as scum reads (even if you think they're bad reasons) is still HAVING SCUM READS So explain to me how you come to those conclusions.


Not having a clear scum read was referring to the time before steve got lynched. At that time your only clear scum read was steve. Also the reasons why you called koshi scum were imo kinda weak. Not necessarily wrong but nothing that would instantly convince me.

Thinking about it, after steve was lynched you made your scum reads clear. It seems like your play style has changed with the steve lynch and you´re now acting more like I´d expect a townie to act. So it´s definitely possible that you were just too focused on steve. That would explain the lack of another clear scum read before his lynch.
I guess I´ll have to go through some filters tomorrow.


I´m gonna sleep now. I don´t want to see any votes until I´m back. We also have to wait for Hf and cav.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 08:26 GMT
#1161
On May 12 2014 17:08 Holyflare wrote:
tis cool, i'm out for most of the day anyway so talk amongst yourselves.

All you should know is that mderg isn't getting hammered so he's mafia

plan completed!

it´s actually just proving that at least one of cav and poofter is town
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 08:27 GMT
#1162
Also why the fuck is hf voting for me without giving me the chance to defend myself at all?
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 08:31 GMT
#1165
you´re 100% wrong.
At least one of you and koshi is scum, possibly both of you.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 08:34 GMT
#1167
It´s not that well substantiated.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 08:38 GMT
#1170
especially the my little fwiend part could just be bullshit. It´s based on self meta which you´re aware of. So there´s absolutely no way you could ever lie about that or have planned to claim medic later on.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 08:45 GMT
#1173
considering you´re such an awesome mafia player you could set things up, just in case something happens.
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