The fact that he is not doing that and moans and bitches instead only shows that he is scum who is giving up and doesn't want to put in any more effort/to incriminate his buddies.
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justanothertownie
16316 Posts
The fact that he is not doing that and moans and bitches instead only shows that he is scum who is giving up and doesn't want to put in any more effort/to incriminate his buddies. | ||
justanothertownie
16316 Posts
On May 07 2014 06:55 WaveofShadow wrote: JAT, shut up. Nope. | ||
austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
There WOULD be value in just lynching/shooting everyone who isn't doing anything, but it's never an easy thing to make yourself do. He's right, somewhat, to defend himself on activity/scumhunt-y grounds, but when I looked at his recent stuff there actually isn't that much. Since the D2 post on RoL/WoS/oats, he posted on BH/slam, and he posted a second bit on RoL at the start of D3. There's been ACTIVITY, but I'm mixed on whether it's really useful, and I don't think that defending oneself on "you're killing one of the only active players" is valid when the activity isn't as scumhunt-y as I want/expect. Do you guys have thoughts on that? There's BEEN scumhunting from him, but like...what % of his time since that WoS/RoL/Oats post has been scumhunt-y, what percentage scumhunt-y/push the game forward-y? Am I off in my evaluation? | ||
justanothertownie
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VayneAuthority
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On May 06 2014 03:14 austinmcc wrote: The QT doesn't really matter. I'm posting Foolishness stuff from it mainly to get people to quit talking about it. It doesn't matter if it's outed, or if we all die, or anything like that, but I think that talk about QT, and scumhunting via QT, are not as advantageous to town as making people post about actual other stuff, who has done what that is scummy, and not what might or might not be true about a QT that might or might not exist. Foolishness was added at the start of D1, before he'd done anything, this bit is true. BH added someone every night thereafter. On N1, they discussed who to add, BH decided on Sandroba. Said he added Sandroba, but was given another bite at the apple given Sandroba's dead-ness, and another person was added shortly thereafter. If true, it's an indicator that BH was not recruited on D1. As far as relevant Foolishness stuff in there:
THE END It's not been the most active QT. He was more active in it D1, early days, talked a decent bit with BH, has gone less posty recently. Unsure if weekend or sad about buddies. Generally, there was a small amount of anti-oats stuff, nothing that makes him super townie, not enough of it, and nothing where he's really trying to PUSH oats to the QT people. He was generally anti-BH yesterday, we were both confused at how BH was interpreted Cephiro's claim, at how the scenarios he was making up could ever be true (Cephiro traitor, guessed Slam and BH for mafia, was told that was incorrect and he failed to join mafia team ----> he fakeclaims cop and says one of those guys is mafia, thinking this will signal to the scumteam that he's the traitor, and will also get town to mislynch these people, stuff like that) It exists. It's not magical. I don't THINK foolishness's posts in QT point, in particular, to any alignment. I read this and felt like a lot of the stuff he was saying was pretty neutral and/or requires the knowledge of other's alignments i.e. Palmer/Caller/Ace/Prphlz to be town. I did however feel like the bolded parts stood out to me and found the point I underlined the most interesting as austin you made the big thing about how Foolishness didn't research Oats' games when the underlined part makes it seem like he did at least look through them and didn't see similarities (obviously he could fake that and just say he did to seem neutral but why not give a position) The thing is that (assuming what you posted was chronological order) He went from I'm unsure on Oats to talking about his past games and they don't match up. To me that shows a townie thought train of hmm I don't know about x better go research him. If he didn't find anything conclusive it also explains why he didn't express his views in the thread cause what good is that info? The other things I've highlighted are basically him asking the QT to post about his towniness meaning he is reading those in there as town and seems to come from a town mindset as scum he could just ask his teammates and it didn't seem like something he would do for town points. The part about him and Austin being on the same wave length regarding BH shows a mindmeld between two townier people imo. Like BH as mafia has 1 reaction and Austin and Foolish have the opposite to me that reads more townie. He also says he wants to recruit me and reads me correctly and I think that a scum foolishness could easily push on me for shooting as I did he definitely wouldn't find much resistance but the fact he reads past that makes him more townie to me. The part in Red is the scummiest part because to me the tone like was he gone for the weekend or is he not trying anymore cause 2 of his teammates went down and now hes given up. Kind of the opposite read of WoS/Palmer. I see Jat really really wants this lynch so its probably going to happen but I think Foolish is town here judging by whats in a QT that he wouldn't have known would be public at least this soon. He also has been casing people on D2 he made the case on RoL (it turned out to be wrong but I think people are allowed to be wrong and if he was right all the time that screams of TMI) He also is reading lots of other people in the QT it seems as well as in the thread. I agree he wasn't actively pushing the Oats lynch but his train of thought for Day 1 doesn't make a lot of sense unless the whole train on SNB was scum. Even then its a very weird train of thought for a scum to have. Even if their buddy was the other lynch that day why not go after someone like myself who didn't even post/vote? Why not accuse one of the towns on the wagon of being scummy? Just doesn't seem like a good scum agenda tbh maybe I think too highly of Foolishness' scum play from video mafia but to me he tends to have more try-hard scum agendas. I ask austin to look at this and tell me that what I said doesn't make sense. Where am I going wrong reading Foolish if hes scum? I agree he is given up it seems which isn't very useful for town but idk I'm just not getting that as scum give up. (The good news is if he is scum its probably an easy game because that means we have demoralized the team!) 6 posts 3 given. | ||
Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Do we even have enough people to switch? I hope mods don't plan on counting prplhz in the majority right now because as is we may no-lynch | ||
VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On May 07 2014 08:08 Tehpoofter wrote: @VA do you think that Palmer/Caller reactions was scum on scum? scum on town? Like seeing how the days have played out which is most likely in your mind? 7 posts 3 given. uh just look how caller is playing. he is randomly tunneling me because I claimed PR and wont let go of it but he shot a nuke at palmar that failed then hasnt said anything about palmar the rest of the game? LOL do i need to answer this | ||
Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
On May 07 2014 05:20 Foolishness wrote: WoS, it's called your bad at this game. I've officially run out of motivation and stopped caring. Your game to throw not mine. Just read the cases that have been made and hopefully you can make things work out in the end. Wrong. no1 responsibility as town is not to get lynched and you know it. #rekt | ||
Palmar
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On May 07 2014 07:09 justanothertownie wrote: In my experience the guys that seem to be scumhunting just a little are way more likely to be scum than the people who just flat out refuse to do anything. Also "this guy has done less than me so you can't lynch me before him!" is literally the worst defense I have ever heard. I will agree with you here the fact that he is saying that is not a high level of play I'd expect and scummy. @WoS no clue on the prphlz thing lets hope he was scum or thats no good for town. My only concern WoS about switching is that I read both Foolish and Palmer as more townie so unless we swap to Ace/Ve/Caller I'm not really sure I'm down because lets be honest if we switch off Foolish and get it wrong Jat will 100% shoot one of us and since I'm reading you more town I feel like that is not good. Although VA brings up a pretty good point about Palmer being a possible scum with Caller. @Va I wouldn't ask the question if I didn't think it needed an answer even if I think its obvious I want to see where your head is at. My issue is that I think Caller is scummy but Palmer not so much especially with how he seems to have perked up as of late. I think Caller is more likely scum than Palmer. 8 Posts 3 given | ||
Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
On May 07 2014 08:18 Palmar wrote: If foolishness flips town we lynch poofter for TMI This is no joke btw. We super lynch poof if fool is town. | ||
Alakaslam
United States17323 Posts
On May 07 2014 07:56 VayneAuthority wrote: like i cant be the only one that noticed they were all fake mad at eachother day one and then have never followed up on it even remotely or even done anything else for that matter. a good distancing tactic that seemed to fool people but i dont buy it. SSON u r not alone | ||
Alakaslam
United States17323 Posts
On May 07 2014 08:08 WaveofShadow wrote: Very very tempted atm. Do we even have enough people to switch? I hope mods don't plan on counting prplhz in the majority right now because as is we may no-lynch Where we switching? I'll consider it | ||
Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On May 07 2014 08:21 Palmar wrote: This is no joke btw. We super lynch poof if fool is town. Why you so sure Foolishness is town now? You said the same thing about Ace earlier? On May 06 2014 18:40 Palmar wrote: It doesn't matter what Foolishness' (or my) alignment is when it comes to Ace. If Foolishness is town, Ace knows this is a train wreck and doesn't care about it. Hell, let's assume I'm confused scum and will flip mafia, even that wouldn't help Ace's case, just make it look worse that he's not pushing a good lynch better. Any reason you're bringing this stuff up before you even know Foolishness alignment? Who do we lynch if Foolish flips scum like you seem to think he will? Who is the auto must lynch in this world? 9 posts 3 given. | ||
Alakaslam
United States17323 Posts
On May 07 2014 08:10 VayneAuthority wrote: uh just look how caller is playing. he is randomly tunneling me because I claimed PR and wont let go of it but he shot a nuke at palmar that failed then hasnt said anything about palmar the rest of the game? LOL do i need to answer this Plus caller has been pushing the world and their cousin | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On May 07 2014 08:21 Palmar wrote: This is no joke btw. We super lynch poof if fool is town. I'm more inclined to lynch you and then super lynch Fool if you flip town. Hell, JAT can even shoot him. Problem with lynching in general is we need VE/gumshoe/Cephiro all to show up. I do so love when people sign up for mafia and play games. | ||
Alakaslam
United States17323 Posts
On May 07 2014 08:21 Palmar wrote: This is no joke btw. We super lynch poof if fool is town. DUDE U PUSH THE MARKIPLIER EVERY FREAKIN' FOOL ACTING ALL MARKIPLIER TRAITOR UP IN HERE NO NONIN ##UNVOTE FOOLISH EASA ##VOTE PALMASR | ||
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