Okay so I've been following along and reading filters and stuff and would really rather lynch Slam than Ceph or BH. The stuff I've said about how he's justified his shot is valid imo - that is just NOT how town reacts to a threat in a game like this imo. He shot because he was afraid he wouldn't get to. Like Palmar. Palmar/Slam 100% scum imo.

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

May 02 2014 18:32 GMT

#1103

Of course you see CEPHIRO why I refuse to try.

Once scummy there is nothing you can do.

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austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

May 02 2014 20:39 GMT

#1104

Hey...slam, BH, and WoS.

Could you guys please choose a position and tell me why it's the right one?

(1) We should lynch BH or slam today
(2) We should lynch neither, Cephiro checks another person tonight if he's for realsies, we put or maybeput any protection on him tonight, and on D3 we've got an extra check, possibly a better idea of alignments, blah blah blah.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

May 02 2014 20:47 GMT

#1105

I like #2. It makes a lot of sense. If Cephiro's really the cop, he'll have another check tomorrow. We can have him check someone we're very sure is town (like VE) for calibration. If he's really the cop, he might get shot, but if that's the case then we have a 50% chance of lynching the scum in Ceph/Bh/Slam rather than a 33% chance. Even better, if he's NOT the cop, he won't get two mislynches, just one. For example, let's say he checks VE and gets SAME. Since we can be very sure VE is town, we lynch Blazinghand, and when Blazinghand flips town, we lynch Ceph next rather than lynching Slam.

I'm sure that no matter how I rage ~~I am still just a rat in a cage~~ if you guys decide to lynch me, it's because you won't listen to reason, and after I flip you'll end up lynching slam anyways before lynching ceph. The important thing is that ceph claims his third check BEFORE I flip. If we lynch me today, Ceph can just claim he checked VE and got DIFFERENT and people will lynch oats too.

If Ceph checks VE before we lynch into me/slam, though, things get much more interesting. His charade will be harder to maintain. And if he's really the pcop? We have everything to gain and nothing to lose. Today was a shit day for a pcop to claim anyways (as I'm sure you're now all realizing...)

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

May 02 2014 20:50 GMT

#1106

Really if people don't start talking and have some balls, then you're just going to do as I say and not complain, and I'll take responsibility. Getting pissed off that people aren't bothering to talk or show up at all. At least place your vote on BH if you can't be assed to contribute.

@Austin: I would be fine with your second suggestion, but my checks come in pairs. Basically, my checks "reset" after each pair, so the next comparison I will get is after N4 (if I live long enough to get a successful check on N3 and N4, and do not get killed till D5 so I can share them.)

That's one of the reasons why I decided to come out with my checks now. My check is good, it got us a confirmed scum + at least one confirmed townie unless you all decide to go batshit insane.

justanothertownie

16342 Posts

May 02 2014 21:00 GMT

#1107

I have no idea how anyone can be this sure about VEs alignment. Besides that (2) relies on the fact that Cephiro survives (ok, if he dies we at least know he is legit). Another problem is if scum has a jailkeeper.

The thing is if we lynch one of Cephiros checks we get the same result and have a better chance of lynching scum today. Lynching outside of them only makes sense if you REALLY doubt the claim and I don't see any reason to do so - bold move to claim right now and risk being cced, Cephiro was on the scumwagon day1 when it was 8:8 and last but not least: is there anyone who really thinks BOTH of BH and slam are town? I don't.

justanothertownie

16342 Posts

May 02 2014 21:02 GMT

#1108

On May 03 2014 05:50 Cephiro wrote:
@Austin: I would be fine with your second suggestion, but my checks come in pairs. Basically, my checks "reset" after each pair, so the next comparison I will get is after N4 (if I live long enough to get a successful check on N3 and N4, and do not get killed till D5 so I can share them.)

Wow, if that's true it is lame as hell. Don't know if I believe it. Hmm...

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

May 02 2014 21:03 GMT

#1109

@Blazinghand Why VisceraEyes and not Foolishness?

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

May 02 2014 21:05 GMT

#1110

On May 03 2014 06:00 justanothertownie wrote:
I have no idea how anyone can be this sure about VEs alignment. Besides that (2) relies on the fact that Cephiro survives (ok, if he dies we at least know he is legit). Another problem is if scum has a jailkeeper.

The thing is if we lynch one of Cephiros checks we get the same result and have a better chance of lynching scum today. Lynching outside of them only makes sense if you REALLY doubt the claim and I don't see any reason to do so - bold move to claim right now and risk being cced, Cephiro was on the scumwagon day1 when it was 8:8 and last but not least: is there anyone who really thinks BOTH of BH and slam are town? I don't.

What happens if we go with (2) and Cephiro gets got? Town in a better/worse spot tomorrow?

(I agree that VE is not the choice for a check tonight if BH wants to get from a check what BH wants to get from a check, he said, using a sentence that is difficult to read and understand)

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

May 02 2014 21:07 GMT

#1111

On May 03 2014 06:03 prplhz wrote:
@Blazinghand Why VisceraEyes and not Foolishness?

Foolishness is way more likely to be town but for some reason literally nobody agrees with me about this

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

May 02 2014 21:08 GMT

#1112

Literally nobody? Or just a few people who are generally being ignored?

Does anybody agree with you on VisceraEyes?

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

May 02 2014 21:09 GMT

#1113

On May 03 2014 06:05 austinmcc wrote:

Show nested quote +

If Ceph is town and gets shot, he would have been shot anyways, and we can lynch into me/slam with the assurance that one of us is scum. In fact, another reason waiting a day is good is because we don't KNOW he's lying about the claim, and if he IS telling the truth scum is gonna clear that up for us by shooting him.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

May 02 2014 21:09 GMT

#1114

On May 03 2014 06:08 prplhz wrote:
Literally nobody? Or just a few people who are generally being ignored?

Does anybody agree with you on VisceraEyes?

Well, not literally nobody. Just nobody who's really loud.

...Foolishness agrees with me on VE. ._.

I feel like everyone this game has shit reads except me

justanothertownie

16342 Posts

May 02 2014 21:13 GMT

#1115

VE could totally be town but that you would chose him over someone like austin is just plain retarded/scummy in my eyes. And you scummers might just not shoot Cephiro tonight. What then? Especially since he claims to not get a new check before night 4.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

May 02 2014 21:14 GMT

#1116

On May 03 2014 06:13 justanothertownie wrote:
VE could totally be town but that you would chose him over someone like austin is just plain retarded/scummy in my eyes. And you scummers might just not shoot Cephiro tonight. What then? Especially since he claims to not get a new check before night 4.

I have private reasons for choosing VE over Austin that I can't share with you.

Caller

Poland8075 Posts

May 02 2014 21:15 GMT

#1117

check ve cuz he's scum, easy

im surprised we havent gotten a coroner report yet. :/

justanothertownie

16342 Posts

May 02 2014 21:17 GMT

#1118

On May 03 2014 06:15 Caller wrote:
check ve cuz he's scum, easy

im surprised we havent gotten a coroner report yet. :/

Would it help us that much right now? I don't think so. Let's assume yamato and Koshi were town - what do we learn?

VayneAuthority

United States8983 Posts

May 02 2014 21:18 GMT

#1119

On May 03 2014 06:15 Caller wrote:
check ve cuz he's scum, easy

im surprised we havent gotten a coroner report yet. :/

if cephiro's claim is real then I doubt their a coroner between that and my PR and the PRs we already have flipped. PRs for days, no coroner

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

May 02 2014 21:22 GMT

#1120

On May 03 2014 05:39 austinmcc wrote:
Hey...slam, BH, and WoS.

Could you guys please choose a position and tell me why it's the right one?

(1) We should lynch BH or slam today
(2) We should lynch neither, Cephiro checks another person tonight if he's for realsies, we put or maybeput any protection on him tonight, and on D3 we've got an extra check, possibly a better idea of alignments, blah blah blah.

2.

We can lynch between us tomorrow.

He has thrown it out there so it's not like all is over if he is shot.

Anyone shooting any of us three is conf scum like BH said too.

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