You Only Shoot Once Mafia - Page 2

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

April 28 2014 02:54 GMT

#509

Omfg if we don't lynch snb today I promise none of you halfwitted semihodors will ever live this down.Consolidate to SnB. Its Majority.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

April 28 2014 02:59 GMT

#512

fine i can't have a no-lynch

##unvote

##vote oats

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

April 28 2014 03:04 GMT

#515

Wait, we have an extra hour. Get the fuck onto SnB

##unvote
##vote SnB

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

April 28 2014 03:07 GMT

#518

On April 28 2014 12:04 OdinOfPergo wrote:
This guy is such a hot topic.
I really feel uncomfortable with his lynch atm though.
Like I read it... and come to the conclusion "This dude totes scum"

you should just stop your throught process here and vote SnB

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

April 28 2014 03:51 GMT

#548

I was planning to save post 25 for a potential switch back to oats to save a no lynch, but fuck it-- it's SnB OR BUST. You guys don't want a no-lynch, right? VOTE SNB.

VOTE HIM OR BE HELD IN MY ETERNAL IRE (this is not a bet of an out of game object)

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

April 28 2014 04:07 GMT

#574

On April 28 2014 13:06 OdinOfPergo wrote:
SnB was a one shot.
Did he kill Yam?

....

On April 28 2014 08:05 Alakaslam wrote:
##Shoot: Yamato77

Reason: I was out of posts and can post my reason with the shot. I can't change my vote folks and I was already looking at Yam shot. Not playing pro town much at all IMO.

On April 28 2014 08:06 Hapahauli wrote:
Mod Announcement:

Yamato77 has been shot!

This is a no-flip kill.

._.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

April 28 2014 06:36 GMT

#588

You cannot teach a dead dog to play the bassoon, as Aristotle said.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

April 29 2014 15:53 GMT

#731

Im glad Geript got shot, since I was probably going to push him today and I'd rather lynch scum. I could probably successfully make an Oats push, but I think where we should really be focusing is the people who weren't on either Oats or SnB at the end of D1 (especially people who voted for oats then buggered off and almost caused a no-lynch) if we want an optimal chance of hitting scum. My working theory right now is that scum hung back and let the lynch happened, as Foolishness said which IMO is accurate. It felt like a lynch propelled by badness of town rather than an active scumteam. If I had to guess, Besides Oats (who was on slam) we'd want to look at tehpoofter, gumshoe (nonvoters), and Ace, basically anyone not voting on the main wagon or the main counterwagon. Also a good luck at people who were around near the end and stayed on Oats-- anyone pushing for a no-lynch or trying to prevent us from getting our shit together. IMO if I were scum and town was having the kind of cluterfucky D1 we had, I'd just try to make some kind of excuse to not be involved and then have a blank slate going into D2. So yeah, basically sideliners. Scum doesn't need to be active to win this so far, let's change that.

~~Now, tehpoofter literally hasn't posted and we can anticipate a modkill for him.~~ well looks like he's actually here so i'm gonna gve him a day. Also Palmar still has another 24ish hours to seriously impress before I worry about him.

Gumshoe however HAS posted, just not in the past 24 hours. I don't buy his reason of having some kind of sc2 clan war, and honestly I see him as scum being less interested in actual scumhunting. When you play scum you're mostly motivated to float by rather than learn things about what's happening in the game, and that's what I see happening here with Gumshoe. Especially in this town, the emotion driving scum is fear and wanting to hide rather than like seriousness. A Gumshoe lynch is a good lynch.

##vote gumshoe

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

April 29 2014 16:21 GMT

#735

Lol I can't help but laugh at how wrong you are JAT. I tire of these mafia games where nobody is on my level. You guys can't possibly comprehend how much worse you are at scum hunting than I am.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

April 29 2014 17:23 GMT

#748

BH... knows to some degree what an on-point geript is capable of.

##Vote: Blazinghand

>implying geript is capable of anything other than shitting the bed

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

April 30 2014 15:40 GMT

#834

Other than the incorrect claim that it's a crap shoot nobody had any real objections to lynching gun eight

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

April 30 2014 16:03 GMT

#839

On May 01 2014 00:47 justanothertownie wrote:

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Yes, yes it is a crapshoot. If you have a gun feel free to shoot gumshoe - maybe I will even do it - but today we are lynching foolishness. Get on the wagon. Lynch of justice yada yada.
I want to see more votes on Foolishness!

Foolishness really is not scum. I'm in a mason qt with him and with few exceptions he has been helpful and honest. Even better he has pushed me to develop and clarify my reads. He asks questions and shares thoughts and ideas. Foolishness has put more work into solving this game than any of you jub jubs. Why not lynch one of the many scummy people like Gumshoe instead of the helpful foolishness?

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

April 30 2014 16:33 GMT

#842

What really seals the deal for me with "Foolishness is Scum" is this. Foolishness and I during D1 were hanging out in the !T being biffles. About an hour before the lynch, we're discussing various candidates and Foolishness said he had a meta read on Oatsmaster. He asked me to compare Oats post here as mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/432880-white-flag-mafia?page=11#216 with Oats most here in this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/448443-you-only-shoot-once-mafia?page=9#166

What's important to see here is that these posts are actually very different. They both begin with a one-liner and have two paragraphs, but they represent different playstyles. In one, Oats is meta-ey, and in the other he talks about mindset and stuff. Basically, I'm pretty sure Foolishness was planting this as a trap to see if I would accept bad reasoning about Oatsmaster, and when I rejected it, he quickly moved on. In other words: even though we were productive, Fool was subtle trying to catch me out in case I was scum, and evaluate my chops. I can tell you that this is just one of many times we compared evidence. If I were scum, and also not quite as observant and talented as I am (since I am the #1 player on Tl Mafia) it might have even worked. Most people on this forum underestimate me or think I'm joking when I say I'm th ebest, and Foolishness probably bought into that when he tried to trick me like this.

The point isn't whether or not I'm the best (though I am), the point is the fact that Foolishness was willing to go through all this effort means he must be town trying to solidify his read on me. I can't at all see how he could be scum.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

April 30 2014 16:36 GMT

#843

Look, I'm not saying "don't lynch Foolishness ever" or anything, because he's a savvy player and it's possible I GUESS that he did this all as scum and just runs like several levels of meta deeper than me and predicted my moves. But I'd really be shocked if I got hoodwinked so bad. Most people just simply aren't on-my-level enough to do it. Even Fool. Why are we even thinking about lynching a guy who's actively like making reads and trying to figure out the game? We should at LEAST start with the scummy people.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

April 30 2014 16:42 GMT

#845

JAT if you had any points worth addressing, trust me, I'd address them, but honestly you're not even on my level. I don't even know how I'd really communicate with you, it would be like a man trying to speak with a donkey

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

April 30 2014 16:47 GMT

#846

And by that I mean you're the donkey

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

April 30 2014 16:48 GMT

#847

One of the two of us is a Mason Recruiter. We began speaking at the start of D1, and have continued to do so. There's a 3rd person in the QT who was added for D2. You're a donkey.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

April 30 2014 17:04 GMT

#849

Read JAT's posts and try not to shit yourself over how infantile his logic is.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

April 30 2014 17:05 GMT

#850

I'd say, by the way, that me claiming masonry with the guy and pointing out that he's said stuff to me in the mason QT that underlies a real thought process is absolutely alignment-indicative. I'm not telling you who the third guy is for important reasons but he can definitely corroborate.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

April 30 2014 17:19 GMT

#854

On May 01 2014 02:14 austinmcc wrote:
WEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEE

FACT: We nearly no lynched yesterday, due both to lack of candidates AND time zones causing us trouble late.
FACT: Our current votes look like this:

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FACT: Nobody has even 1/2 a majority.
FACT: There are mafia in this game and they don't want us to lynch mafia.

OPINION: We should start consolidating. Specifically

BH, you're the ONLY Gumshoe voter. If you're in a QT with Foolishness, you guys BOTH find a lynch you like, and BOTH vote that guy. Stop splitting off, and you KNOW that town isn't going to lynch Gumshoe D2 when he's always hyperafk and there are so many people that so many people find actively scummy.
Alakaslam, nobody else is voting Odin. Nobody has discussed Odin as mafia. You need to consolidate your vote onto someone else.
Caller, nobody has joined you all D2 on VE except slam. VE has gained no traction, despite doing jack squat.
WoS, see all the above.

A rough list of

Foolishness
Palmar
Oatsmaster
RoL

seems to provide everyone with something? It's highly unlikely all 4 of those are town. Moreover, there are some splits there. Foolishness pushes RoL and hard defends Palmar, RoL attacks Palmar, Foolishness sorta finds Oats mafia maybeish. Blah blah.

I PERSONALLY still want to lynch Oats. I'm still suspicious of Foolishness, but between letting someone who is posting sometimes in thread and apparently posting in a QT live, vs. letting someone live who actually is just doing nothing, I'd much rather keep the Foolishness alive than the Oats. Sorry Oats.

I PERSONALLY don't want to lynch RoL. I gave some reasons when asked (maybe by JAT?), but also the push on him from Foolishness makes me shy away even more. Foolishness's cases have not resonated with me this game like they have in recent ones.

ANYWAY. SEEING AS WE HAVE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE GLOBE AND WE HAD TROUBLE GETTING MAJORITY ON D1 AND WE'RE HAVING LOTS OF TROUBLE GETTING MAJORITY ON D2, WE REALLY NEED TO START CONSOLIDATING.

DOES ANYONE THINK THAT THE ABOVE LIST OF OPTIONS IS PARTICULARLY BAD? NONE OF THOSE 4 ARE MAFIA? THERE'S SOMEONE WHO SHOULD BE ON THAT LIST ABOVE A BUNCH OF OTHERS, AND THAT SOMEONE HAS GOTTEN SCUMREAD BY MULTIPLE FOLKS, MAKING THEM A REALISTIC LYNCH CANDIDATE?

CUZ OTHERWISE, WE'RE DOWN TO LIKE 1/4 CYCLE AND EVEN IF WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRAILS WE'RE NOT DOING WELL WITH OUR VOTING.

Fair enough. I'm down like a clown with lynching Oats. I think we've given Palmar plenty of time and he hasn't delivered, as well. RoL is a fine lynch but honestly I've learned not to expect much from him. The foolishness lynch is, well, utter foolishness.

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