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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 13 2014 13:27 GMT
#90
/in
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 13 2014 21:00 GMT
#93
I think that is 2400 CET so shouldn't be later for europeans. Maybe 1 hour max?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 13 2014 22:07 GMT
#97
rofl. u so hilarious
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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April 14 2014 10:32 GMT
#106
On April 14 2014 19:20 Vivax wrote:
It's becoming so tedious to get a game filled.

Hope we both roll town Koshiboy :>

(Not asking to be town, I still need to hone my mafia skillz and now I got 2 weeks lotsa time)

Let's pray to the jeebus.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 14 2014 10:34 GMT
#107
6 am. wow. Never been so far from a deadline.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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April 15 2014 07:48 GMT
#135
Thank you for the flying start America.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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April 15 2014 07:49 GMT
#136
Anybody around?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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April 15 2014 08:21 GMT
#138
sup? Are you town?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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April 15 2014 08:45 GMT
#140
Are you not interested if I am town?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 08:57 GMT
#145
Cool. Hi gang.
What shall we talk about?

I am not policy lynching anybody. I am willing to lynch out of sheer disappointment though.

Who is going to disappoint Koshi?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 09:03 GMT
#148
On April 15 2014 18:00 OmniEulogy wrote:
yo man I'm all about that nova war random tangent video, how can you not enjoy this flavor. Also no, I'm not really concerned if Koshi is town right now. Town objective is not to find other townies it's to find scum. Finding townies is just a bi-product of catching the scum or do you spend all your time trying to identify town in mafia and I've been learning to do things backwards?

Are you scumslipping I am town or am I not reading this propperly?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 09:07 GMT
#151
On April 15 2014 18:04 OmniEulogy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 18:03 Koshi wrote:
On April 15 2014 18:00 OmniEulogy wrote:
yo man I'm all about that nova war random tangent video, how can you not enjoy this flavor. Also no, I'm not really concerned if Koshi is town right now. Town objective is not to find other townies it's to find scum. Finding townies is just a bi-product of catching the scum or do you spend all your time trying to identify town in mafia and I've been learning to do things backwards?

Are you scumslipping I am town or am I not reading this propperly?


not reading it properly.

All right then. I prefer to work with PoE. If I can find obvious town I am as happy as when I find possible mafia.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 09:07 GMT
#152
I just realized Vivax is not in this game. Jeez such evul guy.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 09:08 GMT
#153
On April 15 2014 17:50 thrawn2112 wrote:
hi koshi

Hi thrawn.

I feel like I am going to need bestest thrawn this game.

Let's be bestest friends.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 09:15 GMT
#155
what are you not feeling? The game? Nobody is feeling this game.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 09:20 GMT
#157
It's ok. It will come to you.


OmniEulogy
How are you doing buddy?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 09:49 GMT
#159
On April 15 2014 18:38 OmniEulogy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 18:20 Koshi wrote:
It's ok. It will come to you.


OmniEulogy
How are you doing buddy?


I'm pretty good losing at video games but enjoying it. how's your morning been

How do you discribe your scum play and your town play?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 09:57 GMT
#161
On April 15 2014 18:56 Skanjab1s wrote:
Hey guys, I'm the Vig. I've only got 3 days to play this game, so claiming now is the best option. I will use my 1 shot tonight on whoever i deem worthy of it. So far, that person is OO, for insulting my honor.

...
fake
...
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 09:57 GMT
#162
IT BETTER BE.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 09:58 GMT
#163
So many things wrong with that. So many things.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 10:20 GMT
#165
On April 15 2014 19:18 OmniEulogy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 18:49 Koshi wrote:
On April 15 2014 18:38 OmniEulogy wrote:
On April 15 2014 18:20 Koshi wrote:
It's ok. It will come to you.


OmniEulogy
How are you doing buddy?


I'm pretty good losing at video games but enjoying it. how's your morning been

How do you discribe your scum play and your town play?


passive and spammy respectively lol

Ok.
Let me put scum next to your name then.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 10:22 GMT
#167
On April 15 2014 19:22 OmniEulogy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 19:20 Koshi wrote:
On April 15 2014 19:18 OmniEulogy wrote:
On April 15 2014 18:49 Koshi wrote:
On April 15 2014 18:38 OmniEulogy wrote:
On April 15 2014 18:20 Koshi wrote:
It's ok. It will come to you.


OmniEulogy
How are you doing buddy?


I'm pretty good losing at video games but enjoying it. how's your morning been

How do you discribe your scum play and your town play?


passive and spammy respectively lol

Ok.
Let me put scum next to your name then.


feel free to do what ever you want Koshi

Thank you. Very kind of you.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 10:56 GMT
#169
You don't think he is scum?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 10:57 GMT
#170
pro-tip for everybody:
Will be very low post game. Bleed towny if you are not planning on posting a lot.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 11:19 GMT
#173
On April 15 2014 20:15 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 19:56 Koshi wrote:
You don't think he is scum?


No, I don't, he's a townie through and through. Do you think he's scum?

I see no reason to think he is town.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 11:25 GMT
#176
I am awaiting his response first.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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April 15 2014 11:29 GMT
#178
On April 15 2014 20:28 Djagulingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 20:25 Koshi wrote:
I am awaiting his response first.

It was as scumslip as "100%"

I don't see what you are seeing tbh.
I can guess somewhere what you are thinking but it kinda thin.

We will see.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 11:32 GMT
#180
On April 15 2014 20:31 Djagulingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 20:29 Koshi wrote:
On April 15 2014 20:28 Djagulingu wrote:
On April 15 2014 20:25 Koshi wrote:
I am awaiting his response first.

It was as scumslip as "100%"

I don't see what you are seeing tbh.
I can guess somewhere what you are thinking but it kinda thin.

We will see.

You have no idea what I'm thinking lol.

Probably. Because if you are thinking what I am thinking you are thinking it is quite thin.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 12:26 GMT
#190
On April 15 2014 21:05 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 20:19 Koshi wrote:
On April 15 2014 20:15 Skanjab1s wrote:
On April 15 2014 19:56 Koshi wrote:
You don't think he is scum?


No, I don't, he's a townie through and through. Do you think he's scum?

I see no reason to think he is town.


That doesn't really answer the question.

Exactly.

I am going to be very upset if this is a game in which I have to drag every piece of information out of you. You can clearly see I am considering Omni as scum, you say he is towniest town that towned and don't give a single reason. Who is at fault here? I am trying to scumhunt here. You are trying your best to be obstructive. Not pressuring Omni at all, calling everybody who thinks there is a slight possibility he is scum bad (as you don't think there is a reason to share your 100% townread on omni) and you are wasting our time.

So.

Can you give all your reads so far this game and give me an explanation for those reads? I want to go forward.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 12:35 GMT
#195
On April 15 2014 21:28 kushm4sta wrote:
K I read the newest stuff.
Inb4 getript tries to ban skanjab.

Also Kochi you are talking alot without content. Does that not mean you are scum by your own self meta?

No. I don't self meta. I don't know where you read me self metaing.
On April 15 2014 21:29 kushm4sta wrote:
Koshi, true or false?
Skans claim almost never is coming from scum.

I don't care. It is probably unlikely but there was so much wrong with that post. I want to know why he made it in 24 hours.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 12:57 GMT
#206
On April 15 2014 21:54 OneThousandWords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 21:45 kushm4sta wrote:
O Kochi I got you mixed up with some other dude.

Skan you realize you might be roleblocked ...


There's 3 possible scenario's here (although only if RB's are notified which OP doesn't mention AFAIK):

1) He is VT claiming a role and in which case he draws a RB and real roles can get on.
2) He is vig and draws a RB for better roles that give information.
3) He is mafia and has to claim being RB which enables all town roles to do their stuff.


I fixed that for you. Because that addendum was bullshit.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 13:01 GMT
#209
On April 15 2014 21:54 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 21:26 Koshi wrote:
On April 15 2014 21:05 Skanjab1s wrote:
On April 15 2014 20:19 Koshi wrote:
On April 15 2014 20:15 Skanjab1s wrote:
On April 15 2014 19:56 Koshi wrote:
You don't think he is scum?


No, I don't, he's a townie through and through. Do you think he's scum?

I see no reason to think he is town.


That doesn't really answer the question.

Exactly.

I am going to be very upset if this is a game in which I have to drag every piece of information out of you. You can clearly see I am considering Omni as scum, you say he is towniest town that towned and don't give a single reason. Who is at fault here? I am trying to scumhunt here. You are trying your best to be obstructive. Not pressuring Omni at all, calling everybody who thinks there is a slight possibility he is scum bad (as you don't think there is a reason to share your 100% townread on omni) and you are wasting our time.

So.

Can you give all your reads so far this game and give me an explanation for those reads? I want to go forward.


(1) Why would I pressure Omni, I think he is town?
(2) I haven't called anyone who thinks omni is scum bad. Why are you making up things that are clearly not true?
(3) You don't want to drag every piece of information out of me, but you admit to not answering my questions properly on purpose, and then try to say I'm the one being obstructive? What?

(2) You are by not explaining your reads.
(3) I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. YOU DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 13:03 GMT
#210
On April 15 2014 22:00 OneThousandWords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 21:57 Koshi wrote:
On April 15 2014 21:54 OneThousandWords wrote:
On April 15 2014 21:45 kushm4sta wrote:
O Kochi I got you mixed up with some other dude.

Skan you realize you might be roleblocked ...


There's 3 possible scenario's here (although only if RB's are notified which OP doesn't mention AFAIK):

1) He is VT claiming a role and in which case he draws a RB and real roles can get on.
2) He is vig and draws a RB for better roles that give information.
3) He is mafia and has to claim being RB which enables all town roles to do their stuff.


I fixed that for you. Because that addendum was bullshit.


Why so? He just claimed vig. If he is mafia and claiming vig (which I agree is very very unlikely) then he has to claim being RB'd otherwise it would be incredibly suspicious. There is no way a claimed vig would not get RB'd or claim it if he is mafia because the risk of shooting mafia is always there.

Simply because you are also not yet sure if he is the real vigi y/n.
You believe he is VT, then mafia can think he is VT. Then mafia can not RB him.

The question is if this lie will be valuable for town in the end. Most of time lies end up bad. Because look how you are thinking.

On the one hand you say he can be VT if he draws a RB
But if he is VT and he didn't draw a RB you are opening a door to call him scum.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 13:04 GMT
#211
If he is mafia he isn't forced to have a RB on him at all.

That's my point.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 13:16 GMT
#213
On April 15 2014 22:14 OneThousandWords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 22:03 Koshi wrote:
On April 15 2014 22:00 OneThousandWords wrote:
On April 15 2014 21:57 Koshi wrote:
On April 15 2014 21:54 OneThousandWords wrote:
On April 15 2014 21:45 kushm4sta wrote:
O Kochi I got you mixed up with some other dude.

Skan you realize you might be roleblocked ...


There's 3 possible scenario's here (although only if RB's are notified which OP doesn't mention AFAIK):

1) He is VT claiming a role and in which case he draws a RB and real roles can get on.
2) He is vig and draws a RB for better roles that give information.
3) He is mafia and has to claim being RB which enables all town roles to do their stuff.


I fixed that for you. Because that addendum was bullshit.


Why so? He just claimed vig. If he is mafia and claiming vig (which I agree is very very unlikely) then he has to claim being RB'd otherwise it would be incredibly suspicious. There is no way a claimed vig would not get RB'd or claim it if he is mafia because the risk of shooting mafia is always there.

Simply because you are also not yet sure if he is the real vigi y/n.
You believe he is VT, then mafia can think he is VT. Then mafia can not RB him.

The question is if this lie will be valuable for town in the end. Most of time lies end up bad. Because look how you are thinking.

On the one hand you say he can be VT if he draws a RB
But if he is VT and he didn't draw a RB you are opening a door to call him scum.


This is a silly line of reasoning. I think he is town for his claim. I don't think mafia come in at the start of the day and claim a role out of the blue that can be CC'd. The only scenario in which he could turn out to look mafia is indeed if he is VT, if he doesn't get RB'd and a vig shot goes through.

I find that scenario to be such an extreme outlier of a risk for mafia to take that it is a silly line of reasoning to go down at this point.

Is this still about the fact that you added "needs to be RB in case of mafia" and I disagreed with that.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 13:23 GMT
#215
On April 15 2014 22:19 OneThousandWords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 22:16 Koshi wrote:
On April 15 2014 22:14 OneThousandWords wrote:
On April 15 2014 22:03 Koshi wrote:
On April 15 2014 22:00 OneThousandWords wrote:
On April 15 2014 21:57 Koshi wrote:
On April 15 2014 21:54 OneThousandWords wrote:
On April 15 2014 21:45 kushm4sta wrote:
O Kochi I got you mixed up with some other dude.

Skan you realize you might be roleblocked ...


There's 3 possible scenario's here (although only if RB's are notified which OP doesn't mention AFAIK):

1) He is VT claiming a role and in which case he draws a RB and real roles can get on.
2) He is vig and draws a RB for better roles that give information.
3) He is mafia and has to claim being RB which enables all town roles to do their stuff.


I fixed that for you. Because that addendum was bullshit.


Why so? He just claimed vig. If he is mafia and claiming vig (which I agree is very very unlikely) then he has to claim being RB'd otherwise it would be incredibly suspicious. There is no way a claimed vig would not get RB'd or claim it if he is mafia because the risk of shooting mafia is always there.

Simply because you are also not yet sure if he is the real vigi y/n.
You believe he is VT, then mafia can think he is VT. Then mafia can not RB him.

The question is if this lie will be valuable for town in the end. Most of time lies end up bad. Because look how you are thinking.

On the one hand you say he can be VT if he draws a RB
But if he is VT and he didn't draw a RB you are opening a door to call him scum.


This is a silly line of reasoning. I think he is town for his claim. I don't think mafia come in at the start of the day and claim a role out of the blue that can be CC'd. The only scenario in which he could turn out to look mafia is indeed if he is VT, if he doesn't get RB'd and a vig shot goes through.

I find that scenario to be such an extreme outlier of a risk for mafia to take that it is a silly line of reasoning to go down at this point.

Is this still about the fact that you added "needs to be RB in case of mafia" and I disagreed with that.


No, it's about the fact that I think he is town for when he claimed and how he did it and all situations point to it being beneficial for town but then you determine that there is likely a mafia motive behind the play and talk about mafia gambling plays, which I think at this point is crazy.

I wasn't doing that at all. I was explaining why I thought you shouldn't add "needs to be RB".
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 13:23 GMT
#216
So back to useful things.

Any scumreads anybody?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 13:24 GMT
#217
Or super duper townreads?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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April 15 2014 13:27 GMT
#219
On April 15 2014 22:25 OneThousandWords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 22:23 Koshi wrote:
So back to useful things.

Any scumreads anybody?


Does Alakaslam always post like that?

It's mostly "worse" or shall I say stranger.

There is a serious lack of Chupazis, Hijoles and lampshadings currently.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 14:42 GMT
#226
I think what Djagulingu is saying is that he likes that OneThousandWords is questioning/doubting him before he follows Djagulingu his reads.

Djagulingu is ignoring the point OTW brought up. Not being defensive is a townie treat they told me in how-to-hunt-scum-school.

Personally I find it interesting but I haven't made conclusion about it yet.

What do you think of this chain of events Omni?
1) Djag got scumreads on 2 players
2) OTW questions Djag.
3) Djag calls OTW town.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 14:44 GMT
#227
2) OTW questions Djag about his own self-meta and not about his reads.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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April 15 2014 16:38 GMT
#232
You must have missed his pretty hard "I played 1 game and caught all scum" post then.

The irky feeling was the soft newbie claim?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 17:47 GMT
#235
How did it suit him?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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April 15 2014 17:47 GMT
#236
##vote OmniEulogy
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 18:09 GMT
#238
I don't understand.
The guy has literally 0 scumgames.

And you blame him for playing the newbie card on how many scumgames he played.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 18:26 GMT
#243
On April 16 2014 03:16 OmniEulogy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 03:09 Koshi wrote:
I don't understand.
The guy has literally 0 scumgames.

And you blame him for playing the newbie card on how many scumgames he played.


No, I blame him for playing it period.


Also
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 01:38 Koshi wrote:
You must have missed his pretty hard "I played 1 game and caught all scum" post then.

The irky feeling was the soft newbie claim?


you say it yourself. Somehow you missed it while you were typing it I guess. It has nothing to do with his amount of scum games he's played. Could be one now and it wouldn't stop him from saying he's never played as scum before.

You blame him for playing it when it suits him, a big difference. It didn't suit him at all. What is the scum motivation saying he only played 1 game before so he couldn't self meta?

And it was super casual. He dropped it because the subject about self meta was in the thread. He didn't gained anything.

Anyway, my vote is on the right person.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 15 2014 18:31 GMT
#246
Everyobdy town Kush?
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April 15 2014 19:03 GMT
#257
On April 16 2014 03:39 kushm4sta wrote:
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On April 16 2014 03:09 Koshi wrote:
I don't understand.
The guy has literally 0 scumgames.

And you blame him for playing the newbie card on how many scumgames he played.


So this is the totality of why you are voting for omniknight?

1) Entering game with the breakfast and then the not understandable novastar business.
2) Not doing anything after game was underway for 5-6 hours and nothing happened.
3) Awkward answers early game. Like how he was not hunting for townies. (the scumslip?)
4) He liked the skanjab vig claim because "scum has to deal with it". I mean seriously? He even thinks it is fake.
5) His first analysis in the game was a townread for which he still had an irky feeling because he played the newbie card when it suited him. (Can I get your/other people their opinion on this?)
6) I am annoying him while I am trying to get this game going.
7) Seems like his latest contribution is a case on that townread he had previously. And me I think. Got to read.
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April 15 2014 19:09 GMT
#259
It looks like OmniEulogy is calling me scum.
I am not sure though.
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April 15 2014 19:17 GMT
#260
On April 16 2014 03:57 OmniEulogy wrote:
I'm not even tunneling you. If I thought you were scum I'd vote for you. Are you scummy to me? yes.

This entire conversation happened because Koshi was asking me questions about you though so the idea that I'm tunneling you because I'm answering Koshi's questions is pretty amusing. It's on page 12 by the way, not even that long ago.

So far you've made an association case and then asked everybody else for something you failed to answer yourself because you've only played one game. Oh and blatantly lied about your town meta in that same post and proceeded to answer that accusation from OTW by telling him to read a book...

You just don't strike me as doing anything beneficial for any reason for town right now.
Koshi seems lost in half his questions/posts.
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On April 15 2014 18:03 Koshi wrote:
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On April 15 2014 18:00 OmniEulogy wrote:
yo man I'm all about that nova war random tangent video, how can you not enjoy this flavor. Also no, I'm not really concerned if Koshi is town right now. Town objective is not to find other townies it's to find scum. Finding townies is just a bi-product of catching the scum or do you spend all your time trying to identify town in mafia and I've been learning to do things backwards?

Are you scumslipping I am town or am I not reading this propperly?


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On April 15 2014 21:35 Koshi wrote:
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On April 15 2014 21:28 kushm4sta wrote:
K I read the newest stuff.
Inb4 getript tries to ban skanjab.

Also Kochi you are talking alot without content. Does that not mean you are scum by your own self meta?

No. I don't self meta. I don't know where you read me self metaing.
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On April 15 2014 21:29 kushm4sta wrote:
Koshi, true or false?
Skans claim almost never is coming from scum.

I don't care. It is probably unlikely but there was so much wrong with that post. I want to know why he made it in 24 hours.


^ scumhunting so hard he ignores likely town behavior and calls him scum. I can really feel how much you care about who is scum and who is town Koshi. I think what skanjab did was a bad claim. Kush asked me if I see it as likely town but I refuse to see it as that because it was so bad. I agree with Kush I never saw scum do it. I don't think I have seen town do it tbh. Pretty sure. So it is null for me based on experience. The fact that you say I don' t care about who is scum is pretty silly. I would say you are omgusing me because you are annoyed that I am voting you / asking you questions but you said you are laughing with my questions so I don't think that applies.
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On April 15 2014 18:07 Koshi wrote:
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On April 15 2014 18:04 OmniEulogy wrote:
On April 15 2014 18:03 Koshi wrote:
On April 15 2014 18:00 OmniEulogy wrote:
yo man I'm all about that nova war random tangent video, how can you not enjoy this flavor. Also no, I'm not really concerned if Koshi is town right now. Town objective is not to find other townies it's to find scum. Finding townies is just a bi-product of catching the scum or do you spend all your time trying to identify town in mafia and I've been learning to do things backwards?

Are you scumslipping I am town or am I not reading this propperly?


not reading it properly.

All right then. I prefer to work with PoE. If I can find obvious town I am as happy as when I find possible mafia.

especially after that. Ignore signs to go to the much less likely option to call somebody scum. What? Most games it is pretty hard to find scum. So if you can PoE a couple townies that always helps. I don't even know what you are saying here. You say it is bad that I search for some people that are obvious town and remove these from my scumlist?
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On April 15 2014 20:19 Koshi wrote:
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On April 15 2014 20:15 Skanjab1s wrote:
On April 15 2014 19:56 Koshi wrote:
You don't think he is scum?


No, I don't, he's a townie through and through. Do you think he's scum?

I see no reason to think he is town.


so happy you make your reasons known so you can go after other people. And yeah there's no reason to think anybody is town with their first 4~ posts as the game started. I thank you for your knowledge. Seriously. What? Skanjab says he is THROUGH AND THROUGH TOWN. I say that I don't see a reason to why he is town. You agree with me and disagree with Skanjab just like I did. What is your problem????????

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On April 16 2014 03:26 Koshi wrote:
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On April 16 2014 03:16 OmniEulogy wrote:
On April 16 2014 03:09 Koshi wrote:
I don't understand.
The guy has literally 0 scumgames.

And you blame him for playing the newbie card on how many scumgames he played.


No, I blame him for playing it period.


Also
On April 16 2014 01:38 Koshi wrote:
You must have missed his pretty hard "I played 1 game and caught all scum" post then.

The irky feeling was the soft newbie claim?


you say it yourself. Somehow you missed it while you were typing it I guess. It has nothing to do with his amount of scum games he's played. Could be one now and it wouldn't stop him from saying he's never played as scum before.

You blame him for playing it when it suits him, a big difference. It didn't suit him at all. What is the scum motivation saying he only played 1 game before so he couldn't self meta?

And it was super casual. He dropped it because the subject about self meta was in the thread. He didn't gained anything.

Anyway, my vote is on the right person.



Scum motivation is not having to talk about how they are going to play this very game. Especially after he's already completely off the town play he said he has in that very same post. How do you not get that? I still don't get how OmniEulogy thinks that this was a scumtell from Djag. Can somebody explain this to me?

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On April 15 2014 23:31 OmniEulogy wrote:
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On April 15 2014 22:38 Djagulingu wrote:
On April 15 2014 21:42 OneThousandWords wrote:
Djagulingu, you describe your town play as:

My town play is really stalk heavy. I watch all of you. All of you, when you post, when you sleep, when you work, when you eat. I might come out of nowhere with random people to lynch for random reasons. They did come out true though.

I would define my town play as systematic instead of impulsive, I don't care about collateral damage, sharp and decisive over overly cautious.


In this game you have already called 2 people scum for supposed scum slips. Am I to assume that you have now 180° on your own meta so quickly? This doesn't look very systematic to me, it looks like the complete opposite. You jump on people and call them scum without much basis and state that you are helping the town by making a pro-town atmosphere of sophisticated discussion when, instead, you are steering people in a very specific direction on a point of view that seems entirely skewed on pushing an agenda.

You would understand if you have read Hunter Book: Wayward. But I like your sharpness. You're like Peleus in that book. This is how God45 defines Peleus:

And so I found him. The prodigal problem child. Alleyman. Peleus.

The sniper was a little resitant to my ideas. That's understandable. I was actually pleased that he didn't take to them so quickly. Enlightenment shouldn't come immediately. It took me a long time to discover the truth. We can't all be Paul on the road to Damascus.

He had the methods down. He's messy and he leaves too much of himself behind, but he's efficient. His numbers are great. And I appreciate his attitude toward others of our kind. He won't tolerate their whiny, backstabbing bullshit. Their opinions are threefold- they can help, they can get out of the way or they try to find their way out of a body bag. He doesn't know the words for it yet, but somewhere in there he knows that if you're not curing the cancer, you are the cancer. There's no in between.


unless you are roleplaying as somebody in your book I fail to see how it changes what he said and how this answers none of it =/

My previous mention of it Koshi and OTW's post which Djag completely blows off by telling OTW if he had read the book he'd get it.


sorry kush <3 I feel that last point is pretty important though.

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April 15 2014 19:17 GMT
#261
My replies are in green. to the "accusations"
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April 15 2014 19:20 GMT
#263
Are we scum?
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April 15 2014 19:36 GMT
#266
On April 16 2014 04:34 OmniEulogy wrote:
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On April 16 2014 04:20 Koshi wrote:
Are we scum?


Djab is scummy for sure. You I have no strong feelings for to either side.

Why are you not voting for him?
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April 15 2014 19:36 GMT
#267
Ignore that. You did.
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April 15 2014 19:37 GMT
#268
I wonder if you felt I was going to ask that. Because you only voted after I asked if you found him scummy
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April 15 2014 19:38 GMT
#270
Let it be known I have no interest in pestering you the entire game btw. Other people are just afk.
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April 15 2014 19:49 GMT
#274
You can't tell Kush?
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April 15 2014 19:52 GMT
#276
boring. but possible.
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April 15 2014 20:34 GMT
#280
On April 16 2014 05:18 FirmTofu wrote:
Hey guys, long time no see. Good to see some familiar faces.

FirmTofu. Long time no see.
Please be active Firmtofu from like Titanic 1 and those days.
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April 15 2014 20:37 GMT
#283
FT how do you read Djagulingu ?
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April 15 2014 20:38 GMT
#284
On April 16 2014 05:37 FirmTofu wrote:
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On April 16 2014 05:34 Koshi wrote:
On April 16 2014 05:18 FirmTofu wrote:
Hey guys, long time no see. Good to see some familiar faces.

FirmTofu. Long time no see.
Please be active Firmtofu from like Titanic 1 and those days.

Will do.

But don't be scum pls.

Or tell me right now.
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April 15 2014 20:39 GMT
#286
*droool*
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April 15 2014 22:02 GMT
#290
Fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Vivax is not going to play this game.
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April 15 2014 22:04 GMT
#291
10 pages day 1. Pretty bored.
You people got to generate discussion.

Look bad if needed. Make it happen.
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April 15 2014 22:27 GMT
#294
I agree with that.
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April 16 2014 08:26 GMT
#326
thrawn2112,
why did you want to police Alakaslam?
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April 16 2014 08:27 GMT
#327
policy*
obviously.
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April 16 2014 08:36 GMT
#331
I am pretty meh on Kush atm.
Very meh.
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April 16 2014 08:43 GMT
#333
Maybe. I am not really for a yolo lynch yet.
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April 16 2014 08:44 GMT
#337
On April 16 2014 17:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On April 16 2014 17:26 Koshi wrote:
thrawn2112,
why did you want to police Alakaslam?


he won a game he shouldn't have on omgus.

Am I supposed to understand this?
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April 16 2014 09:09 GMT
#341
Yeah. I was going to say the same thing and add a quote from Kush from a previous game in which he trows out (town)reads when he intervenes in a in his eyes "silly" discussion. Trying to end it. But I can't find it...

But here he is so clueless. How can he know we will see each other as town when he doesn't know we are town?
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April 16 2014 09:16 GMT
#343
On April 16 2014 18:12 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On April 16 2014 18:09 Koshi wrote:
But here he is so clueless. How can he know we will see each other as town when he doesn't know we are town?


yeah that's what i'm getting at. the mindset needed to make that post isn't really possible?

The first part of sentence can only be made if Kush knows we are both town. But the parenthesis contradicts that.

Do you know if RB can block scum NK?
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April 16 2014 09:22 GMT
#346
That can't be RB right?
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April 16 2014 09:25 GMT
#349
9 vs 3 setup. Pretty sure we got a doc or vig and a cop.
2 mislynches with fail vig, 3 with successful vig
2 mislynches with fail doc, 3 with successful doc

I wonder if doc makes somebody vet.
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April 16 2014 09:28 GMT
#351
On April 16 2014 18:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
anyways, what the point of this conversation? are you wanting to lynch kush?

I don't really want to lynch mrderg. He was quite unimpressive in Cell. It's a bit 50/50. I haven't read his combination of oneliners post replying to one liners post in which his conclusion was one liners are bad but I don't remember it to be superscummy.

I don't know what the point of this discussion is.

I also wanted to think that at least one more "active aka vet" player is scum and OO is looking somewhat better than Kush. I didn't like how you posted twice in disbelieve Djag followed your scumread. But overall. I don't know yet. Many unknown things.
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April 16 2014 09:29 GMT
#352
Is OTW Holyflare?
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April 16 2014 09:30 GMT
#353
Because if Kush is town we should lynch OTW.
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April 16 2014 09:35 GMT
#355
On April 16 2014 18:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On April 16 2014 18:28 Koshi wrote:
On April 16 2014 18:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
anyways, what the point of this conversation? are you wanting to lynch kush?

I don't really want to lynch mrderg. He was quite unimpressive in Cell. It's a bit 50/50. I haven't read his combination of oneliners post replying to one liners post in which his conclusion was one liners are bad but I don't remember it to be superscummy.



it's his only post.....

So?
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April 16 2014 09:35 GMT
#356
explain to me the scummy mindset in that post.
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April 16 2014 09:37 GMT
#357
a guy has 10 minutes time to play the game. Reads thread. Quotes some posts he has ideas about and puts those ideas in thread.

That's what I see.

What you are seeing is:
A guy is pretending to be away from thread because he is scum.


How do you know you are right?
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April 16 2014 09:39 GMT
#358
Or is there more to that post from mderg (dnu why I call you mrderg).

The answers he gives are quite reasonable. They don't help us much but it is not the guy got a meta for making super insightful posts.

Did you check his meta thrawn?


Same counts for Djag tbh. Dnu why he is voting mderg either.
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April 16 2014 09:46 GMT
#360
On April 16 2014 18:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On April 16 2014 18:37 Koshi wrote:
a guy has 10 minutes time to play the game. Reads thread. Quotes some posts he has ideas about and puts those ideas in thread.

That's what I see.

What you are seeing is:
A guy is pretending to be away from thread because he is scum.


How do you know you are right?


hmm? that's not my point

my point is that he argues with a few posts and points out some logical errors or whatever

but then he doesn't have any conclusions based on that. and nowhere in his oneliners do I get the sense that he's thinking about alignment. he's only thinking about arguing with random posts.

theres' not one single thing in his post that indicates that he's even remotely concerned with people's alignments. that's why i want to lynch him.

He has 10 minutes to play the game.

You don't believe that?
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April 16 2014 10:11 GMT
#365
3 day filter in previous mderg here.
More recent filter from Cell

Does this change your opinion thrawn?
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April 16 2014 10:12 GMT
#366
That's 2/3 games he played. His first game he got killed N2. I don't really know why.
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April 16 2014 10:14 GMT
#367
well. He was more scumhunty in that game but still 2 page filter.
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April 16 2014 10:18 GMT
#369
Fucking bullshit.
There is no reason to lynch him.

What the fuck did Omni do that comes close to scumhunting?

Omni has posted a shitton more and explain to me where his scumhunting is?
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April 16 2014 10:22 GMT
#371
OneThousandWords
Did absolutely NOTHING.

Went in an argument with me defending the fact that skanjab HAS TO CLAIM RB OR IS MAFIA ON D2 while OTW himself didn't believe the Vig claim.

Then he made some halfassed case on Cavalinho which simply isn't enough for a smurf. Even if Cavalinho is suspicious, it doesn't change the fact OTW has done nothing. Just some silly quotes enabling him to fly under radar.
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April 16 2014 10:23 GMT
#372
On April 16 2014 19:20 Skanjab1s wrote:
Why are you so against his lynch Koshi?

You're throwing out other random names and saying 'hey, lynch this guy instead, dont kill mderg!" when mderg hasn't done anything that I can see that should make you so sure of his towniness.

Because you haven't done shit in this game.

all of you.

And now we are lynching lynchbait

He is without doubt the biggest lynchbait in the game.

Look at his meta.

Look at it.

Nothing happened in this game

Nothing

And we all go.

"well shit, better lynch the lynchbait and go afk for another 60 hours"

Fuck that shit.

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April 16 2014 10:25 GMT
#373
MDERG IS NOT UP FOR LYNCH UNLESS YOU MAKE A GOOD CASE.


He can be viggid. But he is not going to be some no info lynch on D1.
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April 16 2014 10:26 GMT
#374
Disgusting. You all are.
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April 16 2014 10:27 GMT
#376
On April 16 2014 19:16 Skanjab1s wrote:
##Vote: mderg

Gie me the % that skanjab is scum and how you came to this %.
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April 16 2014 10:32 GMT
#378
Great play thrawn.
Lynching mderg for 1 post and now you already stated you are ok with lynching 3 more guys.


Makes it quite clear how certain you are about this lynch.


I suggest you go to bed and when you come back lead this fucking lynch because I will be at soccer and sleep after.
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April 16 2014 10:40 GMT
#381
I also have no problem with lynching a guy for 1 post. I know Vivax (I totes need you) figured out SnB in Sicilian for his opening post. But that was something completely different than this.

You people just say "no scumhunting at all in this 1 post" --> gg he is scum.

Explain to me why scum mderg would do that? Explain to me that the posts he quoted were pushing some agenda? Or that those posts showed some that mderg has extra information? Or show me that mderg is following this game very closely but and is lying about having little time.



But atm it looks like some shitty afk lynch.

Look Skanjab is doing.

Vote and fuck off.
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April 16 2014 10:48 GMT
#382
On April 16 2014 19:37 thrawn2112 wrote:
koshi you;re being just as much of a bitch about this as I am. don't complaign that people aren';t pushing lynches enough for your liking when you're not doing it either

I am not complaining about people not pushing their lynches.

I am complaining about how you, Djag and Skanjab are now voting on a guy for no reason at all. It isn't clear to me. And if I wasn't here asking you questions about OTW, Kush you wouldn't have brought it up and we would lynch mderg.

Nobody even knew why you voted for mderg.
On April 16 2014 18:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On April 16 2014 18:37 Koshi wrote:
a guy has 10 minutes time to play the game. Reads thread. Quotes some posts he has ideas about and puts those ideas in thread.

That's what I see.

What you are seeing is:
A guy is pretending to be away from thread because he is scum.


How do you know you are right?


hmm? that's not my point

my point is that he argues with a few posts and points out some logical errors or whatever

but then he doesn't have any conclusions based on that. and nowhere in his oneliners do I get the sense that he's thinking about alignment. he's only thinking about arguing with random posts.

theres' not one single thing in his post that indicates that he's even remotely concerned with people's alignments. that's why i want to lynch him.

What is the bolded? He is scummy for giving his opinion on the 3 things actually discussed in the thread? Post count, self meta and the vig claim?
On April 16 2014 05:55 mderg wrote:
Such a great day! I had more than 10 minutes of free time in total. Awesome.



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On April 15 2014 18:00 OmniEulogy wrote:
yo man I'm all about that nova war random tangent video, how can you not enjoy this flavor. Also no, I'm not really concerned if Koshi is town right now. Town objective is not to find other townies it's to find scum. Finding townies is just a bi-product of catching the scum or do you spend all your time trying to identify town in mafia and I've been learning to do things backwards?

Finding townies is not a bi-product of catching scum. Finding townies is great. If someone is confirmed town, you can trust him. Also he won´t be misslynched which increases the probability of lynching scum. Scum can also be found by process of elimination.

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On April 15 2014 18:56 Skanjab1s wrote:
Hey guys, I'm the Vig. I've only got 3 days to play this game, so claiming now is the best option. I will use my 1 shot tonight on whoever i deem worthy of it. So far, that person is OO, for insulting my honor.

wtf? I don´t get how claiming vig so early can help town in any way.

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On April 15 2014 20:12 Djagulingu wrote:
Can everyone tell his town play and scum play?

Please no. What´s the point of that? If you know your town play, you can fake it.

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On April 15 2014 20:58 Djagulingu wrote:
On April 15 2014 20:45 OmniEulogy wrote:
On April 15 2014 20:31 Djagulingu wrote:
On April 15 2014 20:29 Koshi wrote:
On April 15 2014 20:28 Djagulingu wrote:
On April 15 2014 20:25 Koshi wrote:
I am awaiting his response first.

It was as scumslip as "100%"

I don't see what you are seeing tbh.
I can guess somewhere what you are thinking but it kinda thin.

We will see.

You have no idea what I'm thinking lol.


weak pressure on Skan on an association based on his first post and riding Koshi's tail seems to be what you're doing though what that means you are thinking though no clue... *omg and easy way to seem like I'm doing something productive for town!* perhaps?

I actually AM doing something productive for town. Luring people into a sophisticated discussion, trying to make the game a high-post game instead of a low-post one that would be good for scumbags.

You can't say it didn't work, can you? Especially considering the fact that you jumped right in.

A high-post game is not necessarily good for town. If there´s too many posts, it becomes difficult to filter out important information. I´d like to encourage people to a moderate post count, not spamming, no lurking.

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On April 15 2014 22:14 OneThousandWords wrote:
On April 15 2014 22:03 Koshi wrote:
On April 15 2014 22:00 OneThousandWords wrote:
On April 15 2014 21:57 Koshi wrote:
On April 15 2014 21:54 OneThousandWords wrote:
On April 15 2014 21:45 kushm4sta wrote:
O Kochi I got you mixed up with some other dude.

Skan you realize you might be roleblocked ...


There's 3 possible scenario's here (although only if RB's are notified which OP doesn't mention AFAIK):

1) He is VT claiming a role and in which case he draws a RB and real roles can get on.
2) He is vig and draws a RB for better roles that give information.
3) He is mafia and has to claim being RB which enables all town roles to do their stuff.


I fixed that for you. Because that addendum was bullshit.


Why so? He just claimed vig. If he is mafia and claiming vig (which I agree is very very unlikely) then he has to claim being RB'd otherwise it would be incredibly suspicious. There is no way a claimed vig would not get RB'd or claim it if he is mafia because the risk of shooting mafia is always there.

Simply because you are also not yet sure if he is the real vigi y/n.
You believe he is VT, then mafia can think he is VT. Then mafia can not RB him.

The question is if this lie will be valuable for town in the end. Most of time lies end up bad. Because look how you are thinking.

On the one hand you say he can be VT if he draws a RB
But if he is VT and he didn't draw a RB you are opening a door to call him scum.


This is a silly line of reasoning. I think he is town for his claim. I don't think mafia come in at the start of the day and claim a role out of the blue that can be CC'd. The only scenario in which he could turn out to look mafia is indeed if he is VT, if he doesn't get RB'd and a vig shot goes through.

I find that scenario to be such an extreme outlier of a risk for mafia to take that it is a silly line of reasoning to go down at this point.

If all it takes to look like town is to claim vig, I would do that every game i was scum in.

Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 23:40 OmniEulogy wrote:
Also for what it's worth I like Skan's claim. Although I think it's fake and can be a detriment to town if he really is Vig or just VT scum has to deal with that during N1, and by itself I see it in a good light. I disagree with Djag in thinking that single action makes him scummy.

Why do you like his claim? Sure, scum has to deal with it but otherwise scum would have had no idea about any power roles

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On April 16 2014 03:16 OmniEulogy wrote:
On April 16 2014 03:09 Koshi wrote:
I don't understand.
The guy has literally 0 scumgames.

And you blame him for playing the newbie card on how many scumgames he played.


No, I blame him for playing it period.

That´s not a very strong argument. Blaming a newbie for saying that he´s a newbie cannot convince me in any way.




So difficult going through this. The one liners really hurt my reading comprehension.


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April 16 2014 10:51 GMT
#386
Nobody discusses anything here.

OTW --> Flied under radar while he did nothing except talk defensively about his post about the vigclaim.

Nobody said shit. Even you thrawn. I had to bring it up and then you went "ahyeah, I was scumhunting earlier but I cba to put anything about it in the thread, I do find otw scummy"



Same with the Kush thing. I have to type "meh, I don't like Kush" and only then you give your opinion.


At least you do that.
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April 16 2014 10:52 GMT
#387
On April 16 2014 19:50 Skanjab1s wrote:
I took a shower you moron. I can't be at my computer 24/7.

Talking about nothing to do with scumhunting, and focusing on unimportant things while still making a huge post to feign contribution is scummy. Thats why a scum mderg would do that.

You didn't answer my question at all, by the way, you've just been bitching for no reason. Saying "because all of you have done nothing" isn't a reason to be hard-defending mderg so badly, and stopping any attempts to pressure from happening.

Ok fine.

##vote: mderg

See you all after flip.


I am done with this game for now.
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April 16 2014 10:54 GMT
#389
On April 16 2014 19:52 thrawn2112 wrote:
lol. the problem is that scum are being scum and townies are being lazy. is that about right?

Scum do scummy things.

Both scum and town can be lazy.

BOTH

BOTH


BOTTHHHHHH



You people got for mderg as if it is a 100% lynch.


Then there is a guy calling me a moron.

So fuck you all.
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April 16 2014 11:55 GMT
#394
On April 16 2014 20:49 kushm4sta wrote:
hold up guys let me catch up on the game and give my thoughts. This will probably happen some time between 10-12 est.
After I do that I should look pretty town.

i realize the shit I've said has been pretty retarded but it's not like there was better shit to talk about that early in the game. two alpha towns figthing... what do you say about that..

The bolded indicates that you are already are up to speed. Because you know why people are voting you.
The red indicates that you are not up to speed.


Promising a case 5 hours from is boring. If you already know why people are voting you you probably have like 3 more pages to read.
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April 16 2014 11:55 GMT
#395
The red is you saying you are not not up to speed.
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April 16 2014 12:33 GMT
#397
On April 16 2014 21:29 kushm4sta wrote:
im not up to speed. all i read was the past few posts in which people quoted what i said and voted for me

You posted as last on page 14. Page 17 had quotes about you.

You are missing 15 & 16?
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April 16 2014 12:53 GMT
#399
Try to put in some ideas on who is scum though. Even if you feel you are not informed enough or invested enough or w.e.

You have read things. Can you bring new things to the table?
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April 16 2014 14:03 GMT
#408
OmniEulogy,
Why have you still said nothing on Kush?
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April 16 2014 14:21 GMT
#413
The good news is that Skanjab and mderg are not both mafia. I think both could be town actually and I have 0 interest to lynch into them today.
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April 16 2014 14:23 GMT
#415
##unvote
##vote: OneThousandWords


This one or Kush.
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April 16 2014 14:26 GMT
#416
On April 16 2014 23:23 OmniEulogy wrote:
his vote on mderg is scummy imo, his accusations considering his entire filter comes down to policy lynching Slam and lynching mderg, and then his conversation with Koshi about Kush where he only votes for kush after you do Skan. It just seems like the only thing he does is try to find a SAFE place to put his vote.

I gave thrawn townie points for noticing OTW and Kush scummy points.

The gigantic problem is that he didn't bring it to the thread till I asked. But I think he is trying to solve the game, just not trying to help the thread. Or he is playing scum pretty well.


Omni, if Kush and thrawn are your biggest scumreads. Why are you voting thrawn who started the wagon on Kush? Is he bussing or is Kush town?
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April 16 2014 14:34 GMT
#418
About point (1):

Will you give the answer before the end of N1 skanjab?
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April 16 2014 14:43 GMT
#421
On April 16 2014 23:35 OmniEulogy wrote:
the problem I'm having right now Koshi is that between Kush, Cavalinho, Slam, FirmTofu, and even still mderg I have no reason to think that any of them are town. I'm also undecided about OTW and OO but they give me a better feeling than the others. given that I'd rather vote for Thrawn even if he is voting on Kush because to me Kush blends in more with the others making me doubt if we'll really lynch scum if we lynch him.


All the following posts are thrawn scumhunting. Most of the time with fresh ideas. I think the sum of these posts is more than what others did. There are a couple posts that I also find extemely townie. Small things. For example how he knows when OTW is online and that he was waiting to talk with him. Something like that looks very townie to me.

On April 16 2014 16:20 thrawn2112 wrote:
No. He made a huge post that doesn't contribute anything. He didn't say a single thing that is relevant to the lynch. It's even worse than no scumreads, there are no reads of any kind. He argued his points without giving any indication that he was forming reads based off of the things he was arguing against.


On April 16 2014 16:26 thrawn2112 wrote:
That's part of it. But my main point is that there's no indication in that huge post that he's trying to solve the game. He quoted a bunch of stuff and said some decently reasonable things that don't have anything to do with his thoughts on alignments.

On April 16 2014 17:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 17:33 Djagulingu wrote:
EBWOP: I can settle with lynching mderg because

1- He's still on my #2.
2- Lynching my #2 is better than a no lynch.
3- As this is a plurality lynch game, I'll vote for whoever gets highest amount of votes between mderg and cavalinho.


Why are you dropping omni from your lynch list?


On April 16 2014 17:53 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 17:36 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty meh on Kush atm.
Very meh.


same for me. becasue of this post

Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 04:48 kushm4sta wrote:
T-5 hours until you both realize each other are town (regardless of if you are or not)


On April 16 2014 18:03 thrawn2112 wrote:
to clarify

the part in parenthsis makes the post..... impossible?

if you take out that qualification at the end then the post reads as kush saying that both of "you" are town and that you should realize it and stfu. but the the stuff in parenthesis means that he doesn't know if "you" are town... so if he doesn't know if the two players are town then why is he telling them that they should realize that they are havnig a town vs town argument?


On April 16 2014 18:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 18:37 Koshi wrote:
a guy has 10 minutes time to play the game. Reads thread. Quotes some posts he has ideas about and puts those ideas in thread.

That's what I see.

What you are seeing is:
A guy is pretending to be away from thread because he is scum.


How do you know you are right?


hmm? that's not my point

my point is that he argues with a few posts and points out some logical errors or whatever

but then he doesn't have any conclusions based on that. and nowhere in his oneliners do I get the sense that he's thinking about alignment. he's only thinking about arguing with random posts.

theres' not one single thing in his post that indicates that he's even remotely concerned with people's alignments. that's why i want to lynch him.


On April 16 2014 19:26 thrawn2112 wrote:
100words is probably my 2nd lynch choice. i almost voted for him instead of that other guy. what stood out to me is how his main talking point was skan's claim and how pointless it was to talk about the claim yet he did nothing but talk about the claim

koshi i'll fully read and respond to that meta when i wake up. too tired/tipsy for that right now. but i did skim one of the links and I notice that he likes to argue about stuff without thinking about alignments. so my preliminary answer to you question is yes, the meta does sorta make me uncertain about lnyching him.


On April 16 2014 19:29 thrawn2112 wrote:
koshi do you want to go after bigger game? i'm pretty willing to lynch kush.

i don't know about oe yet. i see why his posts are bad but i'm still not convinced he's scum. i want to talk to him first and i was hoping he'd show up in these last few hours (cuz he came on about the same time 24 hours ago) but he hasn't. so idk what to think of him just yet.


On April 16 2014 19:49 thrawn2112 wrote:
well I do sorta recognize that it's a shitty afk lynch. that's why I'm not pushing it so hard lol.

a few hours ago i read the thread, decided that mdgerg was scummy, OE is a bit scummy too and that he needed to be my first priority. I noticed that he started posted a little less than 24 hours ago so I thought i'd hang out in the thread and try to talk to him when he shows up. but he hasn't. reading his filter over and over doesn't do anything for me so I can't really progress that read.

you ask what's mderg's agenda. isn't the fact that he has no agenda pretty scummy? my whole point is that he has no agenda, that he's literally not trying to find mafia. he's make NO EFFORTS to find mafia, he doesn't even seem interested in that part of the game. idc about him lying or not, his 10 min statement doesn't tell me anything other than that he feels like he needs to apoligze for his lack of contributions.

so I'm wanting to look into OE but i';m conflicted about that, so I want to talk to him first. but he won't oblige me

i'm semi interested in lynching kush and i tried to talk to you about that but you half-agreed with me then decided the conversation was useless.

so i don't know what you expect from me, considering all of the above

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April 16 2014 15:30 GMT
#432
This just in:
OTW says skanjab can be mafia while at the same time OTW believes skanjab is vig.

I would lynch him for that alone.
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April 16 2014 15:33 GMT
#435
Indeed. So his defense that he believes the claimis bullshit. He doesnt believe the claim at all. He only believes it is possible.
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April 16 2014 15:37 GMT
#437
On April 17 2014 00:35 kushm4sta wrote:
he believes but still acknowledges the possibility that skan is scum

Then you dont believe the claim. Are you dense?

"I believe that you claimed vig. But you could also be scum"

How???
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April 16 2014 15:38 GMT
#438
You cant believe a claim a and at the same time believe the guy is still vt or scum. Then you dont believe the claim.

But the point I make is that OTW says that skanjab needs to claim rb or is scum. Why is that???????
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April 16 2014 15:53 GMT
#440
Kush.
1 more time.
OTW pushed a idea in the thread that skanjab is scum for x. While x was a false reason.

I corrected otw and said x was a bad reason. OTW doesnt agree.

That also summed up otw filter.
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April 16 2014 16:15 GMT
#446
On April 15 2014 21:54 OneThousandWords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 21:45 kushm4sta wrote:
O Kochi I got you mixed up with some other dude.

Skan you realize you might be roleblocked ...


There's 3 possible scenario's here (although only if RB's are notified which OP doesn't mention AFAIK):

1) He is VT claiming a role and in which case he draws a RB and real roles can get on.
2) He is vig and draws a RB for better roles that give information.
3) He is mafia and has to claim being RB which enables all town roles to do their stuff.



DO YOU SEE THE RED PART? THAT PART IS BULLSHIT. Here OTW puts the idea in thread that it is impossible for Skan that he needs to be RB because he claimed. HOWEVER, OTW doesn't believe that Skan is vig. THE FACT THAT HE DOESN'T believe he is VIG is because he says skan can be VT, Vig or scum.

Why can't scum believe that skanjab is not a vig?


This is correct ↓
On April 15 2014 21:54 OneThousandWords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 21:45 kushm4sta wrote:
O Kochi I got you mixed up with some other dude.

Skan you realize you might be roleblocked ...


There's 3 possible scenario's here (although only if RB's are notified which OP doesn't mention AFAIK):

1) He is VT claiming a role and in which case he could draws a RB and real roles can get on.
2) He is vig and draws a RB for better roles that give information.
3) He is mafia.

Something I said from the fucking start and I don't know why we are still discussing this. OTW should just agree with me because I am right and he is wrong and start doing some useful things.
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April 16 2014 16:15 GMT
#447
Why do I always change my sentence in the middle of my sentence. So strange.
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April 16 2014 16:18 GMT
#449
On April 17 2014 01:16 kushm4sta wrote:
That is not "pushing" an idea on the thread. That is laying out three possibilities.

You are overreacting hugely koshi.

Roles kush can have this game:
1) mafia goon
2) mafia gf
3) mafia rb
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April 16 2014 16:18 GMT
#450
##unvote
##vote: kushm4sta
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April 16 2014 16:19 GMT
#451
The joke with that post is that I lay out 3 possibilities but they aren't the only 3 and I am making it seem that it is impossible that Kush is just town.
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April 16 2014 16:22 GMT
#453
You are bleeding town Kush.
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April 16 2014 16:27 GMT
#455
Pls explain to me how skanjab has the RB 100% on him after his claim that nobody believed. OTW his 3 possibilities all have skanjab being RB.


If you can't not all options are listed by OTW.
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April 16 2014 16:36 GMT
#458
On April 17 2014 01:30 kushm4sta wrote:
So OTW said something incorrect regarding mechanics. How does that make him scummy?

OTW said something incorrect.

The only point I want to make.

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April 16 2014 16:43 GMT
#460
I am saying he is scummy for not accepting that he made a mistake and that it was the only thing in his filter and some half baked case on Cavalinho.

Then he came back and still was harping on the fact he didn't make a mistake while he did. Changing his story to the fact that he never said he couldn't see the vig claim being true. Which is bullshit. That wasn't the point.

I actually forgot the rest he wrote. But I voted before he came back.
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April 16 2014 16:44 GMT
#461
Also, I thought he was a smurf but looks like he is a lost newbie.
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April 16 2014 16:45 GMT
#463
phyeah he made a case on thrawn and can't be bothered to read why thrawn isn't scum.
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April 16 2014 16:52 GMT
#466
On April 17 2014 01:50 OmniEulogy wrote:
I think your case for why thrawn is town might be correct but it still doesn't change my mind on how I view a Kush lynch over the other lurkers, both of which I would rather avoid because I feel like it's just lynching on person from a group and hoping you picked the right one. I realize you probably meant OTW but I realized I hadn't made any mention that I had read it either. lol

Well. I think Kush is the scummiest out of the group.
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April 16 2014 17:29 GMT
#474
On April 16 2014 20:49 kushm4sta wrote:
hold up guys let me catch up on the game and give my thoughts. This will probably happen some time between 10-12 est.
After I do that I should look pretty town.

Why the bolded. You had 2 pages you didn't read.
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April 16 2014 17:36 GMT
#477
On April 17 2014 02:31 kushm4sta wrote:
I had way more than that.

You didn't. dnu why you have to lie about this. What was it then? 3,4,5 ? It wasn't 6 Kush.
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April 16 2014 17:45 GMT
#480
On April 17 2014 02:38 kushm4sta wrote:
just because i posted on 14 doesn't mean i read everything up to 14.


...

This is a blatant lie.

Doesn't matter if he corrects himself 2 minutes later.

You just don't blatantly lie like this and don't get lynched.



Lynch Kush.
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April 16 2014 17:49 GMT
#483
I don't care about you anymore.


Be lynched.
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April 16 2014 18:44 GMT
#495
On April 17 2014 03:21 kushm4sta wrote:
wats up koshi? your scumteam just get shit on?

the fact you think I am scum says enough.
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April 16 2014 18:46 GMT
#497
omni and kush. Those 2 I want to lynch. I am going to soccer and will come back and make a case on why I would see Omni as second lynch.

Something with saying Kush is the towniest out of a certain group while saying everything Kush does is scummy and the rest of the group is null.
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April 16 2014 18:47 GMT
#498
On April 17 2014 03:46 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2014 03:44 Koshi wrote:
On April 17 2014 03:21 kushm4sta wrote:
wats up koshi? your scumteam just get shit on?

the fact you think I am scum says enough.


i don't know if you are scum. I haven;t played with town koshi in a while, and I don't know about what effect the arrogance brought on by being right a few times will have on you.

Koshi, if you are town know this. In forum mafia your biggest enemy is your own arrogance. It will make you suck.

I am lynching the best bet on scum.
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April 16 2014 18:48 GMT
#501
On April 17 2014 03:46 Koshi wrote:
omni and kush. Those 2 I want to lynch. I am going to soccer and will come back and make a case on why I would see Omni as second lynch.

Something with saying Kush is the towniest out of a certain group while saying everything Kush does is scummy and the rest of the group is null.

Cavalinho/alakaslam/OTW and all others we don't know jack shit about can be vigged/copped.
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April 16 2014 18:49 GMT
#502
Hello Vivax. I take it you followed thread so please spill the beans. I am going for soccer sadly but I expect strong things from you instantly.
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April 16 2014 19:04 GMT
#509
On April 17 2014 04:00 OneThousandWords wrote:
Koshi, I don't understand what you are doing right now. You keep pointing out something about my post on Skan early in the game and saying how I didn't believe his claim. That is clearly not the case as many people have already answered for me. It's right at the start of my filter too, there's more to it than that! You still keep raising the same point over and over again and calling me scum and when finally people point out that you are wrong you backtrack without explicitly saying you read it wrong and then say "yeh I just thought I'd point out how wrong he was".

What are your intentions behind that? The way it comes across is an attempt at slander to paint me in a negative light.

... w.e If you don't understand it now you never will.
Consider the subject completely dropped.
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April 16 2014 21:59 GMT
#566
On April 17 2014 04:39 Vivax wrote:
Current status of reads. Reasoning pending, but ask me about a specific one if you want me to explain it first:

Townies: Koshi, Djagu, Cava, thrawn, (~Kush fwiw)

Today's lynch candidates (by PoE and cause there is some stuff I don't like): FT, Omni, OTW, OO, mderg

Also HI GUYS =D . Rejoice that you got me and not that crazy grush fac-simile

I am looking at those 5 possible scummers and I can't say you are completely crazy so I am going to believe you. Alakaslam hopefully didn't replace out as scum again...

Are you planning on pushing a target today?


Why is Kush not scum? I don't see it. Kush is scummy as scum btw.
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April 16 2014 22:05 GMT
#570
On April 17 2014 07:02 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2014 06:59 Koshi wrote:
On April 17 2014 04:39 Vivax wrote:
Current status of reads. Reasoning pending, but ask me about a specific one if you want me to explain it first:

Townies: Koshi, Djagu, Cava, thrawn, (~Kush fwiw)

Today's lynch candidates (by PoE and cause there is some stuff I don't like): FT, Omni, OTW, OO, mderg

Also HI GUYS =D . Rejoice that you got me and not that crazy grush fac-simile

I am looking at those 5 possible scummers and I can't say you are completely crazy so I am going to believe you. Alakaslam hopefully didn't replace out as scum again...

Are you planning on pushing a target today?


Why is Kush not scum? I don't see it. Kush is scummy as scum btw.


I just played against Kush as scum, I'm kinda confident I found out about how he plays scum. Specifically, the way he pushes his reads.

He tends to attach onto cases on townies, add some of his own points and show extraordinary confidence about his fake reads while doing very little besides that, I didn't see that pattern yet in this game.

A meta read. What about his current play? What if it wasn't Kush?

How come so many people read Kush as town this game. I think I saw 4 people beside you call him town. It's simply too many.
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April 16 2014 22:05 GMT
#571
Too many for him to be scum it feels like.
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April 16 2014 22:13 GMT
#573
I would like to go to bed. So tired.

The deadline is big suckass but Europe is going to bed and would be niec to have 4 votes on somebody.

Omni guy looks like a fine lynch to me. FT I guess maybe but not the biggest fan. Kush still looks sweet to me but I guess that train passed? w.e
If you feel extremely strong about OO I guess I could lynch him.
OTW can just die. I don't really care.

so yeah.

Every lynch is fine.
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April 16 2014 22:23 GMT
#576
On April 17 2014 07:17 Vivax wrote:
Koshi, if you think Kush is scum give me a bunch of convincing reasons please. Looking through your filter I find it hard to find something that conclusively deduces from his posts that he's scum.

Show nested quote +
On April 17 2014 07:09 OneThousandWords wrote:
On April 17 2014 06:59 Vivax wrote:
On April 17 2014 06:57 OneThousandWords wrote:
Oh, I won't be around for deadline, is anyone around? I'd like to talk about things so that we can get an idea of who to lynch because Kush is not a good lynch.


Yeah, I think you could be scum cause you post cases left and right but don't seem to have a bigger picture of the game, ie you post a lot of points about people being scum but don't seem to want to clear people. So tell me, who are your townreads?


If you think this you are not reading anything I say at all.


Please, just your current townreads besides the one on the vigi claim. I don't want a shitfight you're attempting to start.

No I am too tired. If your first impression is town I follow it.

These are interesting maybe:
On April 17 2014 02:38 kushm4sta wrote:
just because i posted on 14 doesn't mean i read everything up to 14.

This was a lie. 100% untrue.

On April 16 2014 04:48 kushm4sta wrote:
T-5 hours until you both realize each other are town (regardless of if you are or not)

Doesn't make sense.

I just don't like Kush his early play. He did nothing. Don't know if it is scummy. It wasn't towny. And then he lies and makes dumb posts. ...

____


Anyway, who do we vote for?


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April 16 2014 22:27 GMT
#578
Ok Kush is not lynch for today. Still think he might be scum but w.e
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April 16 2014 22:30 GMT
#579
On April 16 2014 23:35 OmniEulogy wrote:
the problem I'm having right now Koshi is that between Kush, Cavalinho, Slam, FirmTofu, and even still mderg I have no reason to think that any of them are town. I'm also undecided about OTW and OO but they give me a better feeling than the others. given that I'd rather vote for Thrawn even if he is voting on Kush because to me Kush blends in more with the others making me doubt if we'll really lynch scum if we lynch him.

This post. Interesting?
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April 16 2014 22:39 GMT
#586
On April 16 2014 03:57 OmniEulogy wrote:
I'm not even tunneling you. If I thought you were scum I'd vote for you. Are you scummy to me? yes.

This entire conversation happened because Koshi was asking me questions about you though so the idea that I'm tunneling you because I'm answering Koshi's questions is pretty amusing. It's on page 12 by the way, not even that long ago.

So far you've made an association case and then asked everybody else for something you failed to answer yourself because you've only played one game. Oh and blatantly lied about your town meta in that same post and proceeded to answer that accusation from OTW by telling him to read a book...

You just don't strike me as doing anything beneficial for any reason for town right now.
Koshi seems lost in half his questions/posts.
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On April 15 2014 18:03 Koshi wrote:
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On April 15 2014 18:00 OmniEulogy wrote:
yo man I'm all about that nova war random tangent video, how can you not enjoy this flavor. Also no, I'm not really concerned if Koshi is town right now. Town objective is not to find other townies it's to find scum. Finding townies is just a bi-product of catching the scum or do you spend all your time trying to identify town in mafia and I've been learning to do things backwards?

Are you scumslipping I am town or am I not reading this propperly?


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On April 15 2014 21:35 Koshi wrote:
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On April 15 2014 21:28 kushm4sta wrote:
K I read the newest stuff.
Inb4 getript tries to ban skanjab.

Also Kochi you are talking alot without content. Does that not mean you are scum by your own self meta?

No. I don't self meta. I don't know where you read me self metaing.
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On April 15 2014 21:29 kushm4sta wrote:
Koshi, true or false?
Skans claim almost never is coming from scum.

I don't care. It is probably unlikely but there was so much wrong with that post. I want to know why he made it in 24 hours.


^ scumhunting so hard he ignores likely town behavior and calls him scum. I can really feel how much you care about who is scum and who is town Koshi.
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On April 15 2014 18:07 Koshi wrote:
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On April 15 2014 18:04 OmniEulogy wrote:
On April 15 2014 18:03 Koshi wrote:
On April 15 2014 18:00 OmniEulogy wrote:
yo man I'm all about that nova war random tangent video, how can you not enjoy this flavor. Also no, I'm not really concerned if Koshi is town right now. Town objective is not to find other townies it's to find scum. Finding townies is just a bi-product of catching the scum or do you spend all your time trying to identify town in mafia and I've been learning to do things backwards?

Are you scumslipping I am town or am I not reading this propperly?


not reading it properly.

All right then. I prefer to work with PoE. If I can find obvious town I am as happy as when I find possible mafia.

especially after that. Ignore signs to go to the much less likely option to call somebody scum.
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On April 15 2014 20:19 Koshi wrote:
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On April 15 2014 20:15 Skanjab1s wrote:
On April 15 2014 19:56 Koshi wrote:
You don't think he is scum?


No, I don't, he's a townie through and through. Do you think he's scum?

I see no reason to think he is town.


so happy you make your reasons known so you can go after other people. And yeah there's no reason to think anybody is town with their first 4~ posts as the game started. I thank you for your knowledge.

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On April 16 2014 03:26 Koshi wrote:
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On April 16 2014 03:16 OmniEulogy wrote:
On April 16 2014 03:09 Koshi wrote:
I don't understand.
The guy has literally 0 scumgames.

And you blame him for playing the newbie card on how many scumgames he played.


No, I blame him for playing it period.


Also
On April 16 2014 01:38 Koshi wrote:
You must have missed his pretty hard "I played 1 game and caught all scum" post then.

The irky feeling was the soft newbie claim?


you say it yourself. Somehow you missed it while you were typing it I guess. It has nothing to do with his amount of scum games he's played. Could be one now and it wouldn't stop him from saying he's never played as scum before.

You blame him for playing it when it suits him, a big difference. It didn't suit him at all. What is the scum motivation saying he only played 1 game before so he couldn't self meta?

And it was super casual. He dropped it because the subject about self meta was in the thread. He didn't gained anything.

Anyway, my vote is on the right person.



Scum motivation is not having to talk about how they are going to play this very game. Especially after he's already completely off the town play he said he has in that very same post. How do you not get that?

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On April 15 2014 23:31 OmniEulogy wrote:
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On April 15 2014 22:38 Djagulingu wrote:
On April 15 2014 21:42 OneThousandWords wrote:
Djagulingu, you describe your town play as:

My town play is really stalk heavy. I watch all of you. All of you, when you post, when you sleep, when you work, when you eat. I might come out of nowhere with random people to lynch for random reasons. They did come out true though.

I would define my town play as systematic instead of impulsive, I don't care about collateral damage, sharp and decisive over overly cautious.


In this game you have already called 2 people scum for supposed scum slips. Am I to assume that you have now 180° on your own meta so quickly? This doesn't look very systematic to me, it looks like the complete opposite. You jump on people and call them scum without much basis and state that you are helping the town by making a pro-town atmosphere of sophisticated discussion when, instead, you are steering people in a very specific direction on a point of view that seems entirely skewed on pushing an agenda.

You would understand if you have read Hunter Book: Wayward. But I like your sharpness. You're like Peleus in that book. This is how God45 defines Peleus:

And so I found him. The prodigal problem child. Alleyman. Peleus.

The sniper was a little resitant to my ideas. That's understandable. I was actually pleased that he didn't take to them so quickly. Enlightenment shouldn't come immediately. It took me a long time to discover the truth. We can't all be Paul on the road to Damascus.

He had the methods down. He's messy and he leaves too much of himself behind, but he's efficient. His numbers are great. And I appreciate his attitude toward others of our kind. He won't tolerate their whiny, backstabbing bullshit. Their opinions are threefold- they can help, they can get out of the way or they try to find their way out of a body bag. He doesn't know the words for it yet, but somewhere in there he knows that if you're not curing the cancer, you are the cancer. There's no in between.


unless you are roleplaying as somebody in your book I fail to see how it changes what he said and how this answers none of it =/

My previous mention of it Koshi and OTW's post which Djag completely blows off by telling OTW if he had read the book he'd get it.


sorry kush <3 I feel that last point is pretty important though.

Vivax. Your opinion on this post?
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#595
OneThousandWords,

I didn't comment on the thrawn post because I got thrawn as town but I was ok with your case. I don't agree that thrawn is scum but there is nothing wrong with your case. So I don't post anything.
What do you want me to say? It is obvious I don't agree with you on thrawn.

Anyway. You shouldn't be on chopping block today as well I guess. As you are contributing.


I am voting Omni.
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#597
##unvote:
##vote: OmniEulogy
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#600
On April 17 2014 08:00 OneThousandWords wrote:
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On April 17 2014 07:59 Koshi wrote:
OneThousandWords,

I didn't comment on the thrawn post because I got thrawn as town but I was ok with your case. I don't agree that thrawn is scum but there is nothing wrong with your case. So I don't post anything.
What do you want me to say? It is obvious I don't agree with you on thrawn.

Anyway. You shouldn't be on chopping block today as well I guess. As you are contributing.


I am voting Omni.


Can you write a quick summary of why because I thought he looked towny.

On April 16 2014 04:03 Koshi wrote:
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On April 16 2014 03:39 kushm4sta wrote:
On April 16 2014 03:09 Koshi wrote:
I don't understand.
The guy has literally 0 scumgames.

And you blame him for playing the newbie card on how many scumgames he played.


So this is the totality of why you are voting for omniknight?

1) Entering game with the breakfast and then the not understandable novastar business.
2) Not doing anything after game was underway for 5-6 hours and nothing happened.
3) Awkward answers early game. Like how he was not hunting for townies. (the scumslip?)
4) He liked the skanjab vig claim because "scum has to deal with it". I mean seriously? He even thinks it is fake.
5) His first analysis in the game was a townread for which he still had an irky feeling because he played the newbie card when it suited him. (Can I get your/other people their opinion on this?)
6) I am annoying him while I am trying to get this game going.
7) Seems like his latest contribution is a case on that townread he had previously. And me I think. Got to read.

I don't know how valid those points are but I go with early game feeling. It's basically that.

After that case on djag/me he went softly after thrawn but that quickly went away. I don't know.

Like I don't know. I don't have a good scumread anymore.
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April 16 2014 23:08 GMT
#601
I take all the credit if he flips scum though.
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#602
On April 17 2014 08:01 Vivax wrote:
Wait a moment Koshi. Two quick things before you put your weight on the lynch and going to bed.

1. How do you conclusively gain from those posts that OE must be scum before confronting him with it? Frankly I would want to hear that first.

2. OTW just called you scummy for ignoring his counter-case on your scumread. What was the reason for that and do you think that's a valid reason for calling you scum?

1. He isn't here. What do you want me to do? Not vote him because he isn't here? I am the first vote on him anyway.

2. I already gave the reason for it. I made a recent post that thrawn is town. He makes a post that thrawn is scum. I remember looking at that post and going w.evs. I didn't see something wrong with the case, it didn't feel wrong, but it also didn't convince me to revisit my thrawn read.

OTW and me had some turbulence this game. I also do not know how he plays mafia in general, he maybe doesn't know how we play mafia here. If this is a first game I would be surprised if he is scum. Pretty ballsy, clear, I don't have scummy feelings on his posts.

The reason he and I were clinching a couple times is because that 1 post he made about Skanjab 100% getting the RB. I probably made too big of a deal out of it and didn't explain myself properly the first time what it was really about and it grew into something it else. Like w.evs.



Like even though I am quite active. I do not have a good scumread atm. Like... Everybody can still be scum it feels like. But my feelings do have a decent order in which I would lynch personally. atm Omni is pretty high on that list. Probably the highest. Like I could go OO or FT or maybe somebody else but I feel like due to early game I feel better if Omni is out of the game.
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April 16 2014 23:16 GMT
#603
Nha tbh. I am looking at this playerlist and I don't know. I can only use feelings.
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April 16 2014 23:22 GMT
#606
Omni is probably a good lynch. Maybe FT as well.
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April 16 2014 23:25 GMT
#607
Omni ft OO for endgame bragging rights.
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April 16 2014 23:31 GMT
#612
Ohh 1 last thing. WORK TOGETHER and try to get 4 votes on a guy. Me voting alone on omni is a douchebag move in that regard but need to see some decent patterns. 3 votes on everybody is shit and will never lynch scum. Never.
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April 17 2014 06:37 GMT
#817
Meh town. It was totes 50/50 I guess.. At leat from where I left. Hopefully some good stuff happened. I wont be around for multiple hours. Will read later.

If there is somebody who doesnt know what to do. Trow me a list of 3 vig targets 3 doc 3 cop with reasoning.
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April 17 2014 10:30 GMT
#849
thrawn is 100% town
Vivax is 90% town. That part about Carvalinho getting modkilled is really really bad. 50% town because of care level. The rest is because he is figuring things out.
Djagulingu 80% town. I just like him.
Omni 65% town. He cared a shitton about the lynch. I liked all his post going towards the lynch. It was simply really good. I need explanations for these 2 things though. Are you some sort of pessimist or something?
On April 17 2014 12:58 OmniEulogy wrote:
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On April 17 2014 12:56 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok time for a bible lesson

there's this king or something

two bitches

bitch #1's baby dies. bitch #1 steals bitch #2's baby. they go before the king to let him decide what to do. he decides to chop baby in half so they can each have part of it. scummy bitch #1 says ok. townie bitch #2 says no and has emotional outburst.

king realizes that btich #1 is the liar.

in this game FT is acting like B #1 by saying that he's fine with himself being lynched instead of a no lynch. he's splitting the difference, he's compromising and agreeing to something that he shouldn't, if he is town.

and cavalin is B #2 for being more emotional than FT


I liked that story and now it's gonna be ruined forever.

Why do you make both these posts?↑↓
On April 17 2014 13:01 OmniEulogy wrote:
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On April 17 2014 13:00 Vivax wrote:
It's cute how you two try to milk the cred before this dude flips scum.


it's cute how you continue to look down on people and be hypocritical


mderg Gutread town.
Skanjab1s Fuck I hope you are the vig and you can wifom the scum RB.


Cavalinho is scum for this. 5 minutes before the flip he makes a comment about me, why is he already starting searching 5 mins before the lynch after new scummy people? Everybody (who is town) waits till after lynch and then bask in glory or are upset. Cav starts making plans in case FT flips town while his vote is on FT...... A normal attitude is to see who gets the most cred after a scumflip (because it is his scumread), not looking who gets "blamed" if he turns green. Then his shit about Vivax so incredible town for not voting him but on the other hand his analisys of the lynch is that it is between 2 townies so scum can do w.e the fuck they wanted. That doesn't add up at all. Vivax is town but not for that. I agree with Kush that the post Cavalinho made after the lynch about being between 2 townies not too hard is to make.
On April 17 2014 12:55 Cavalinho wrote:
I'm really weirded out by Koshi voting for OE, because he very obviously isn't going to get lynched. Same goes for OO and Skanjab.

If FT gets lynched and flips town, I think we should start questioning everyone else that isn't coalescing on him. I thought that this lynch was pretty polarized up until thrawn and OE flipped their votes.

Anyone else agree?


OneThousandWords Scum for looking for the FT lynch during the day and fucking off as soon as he safely could put his vote on FT.

ObviousOne PoE scum. Plays like scum. My eyebrows went frownie when he is talking about me and his jabbering about the difference between my themed game play and my normal play. Also he didn't vote. Also town saved carvalinho.
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April 17 2014 10:33 GMT
#850
Town is not bolded in green because they failed to lynch scum.
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April 17 2014 10:34 GMT
#852
Tomorrow. Everybody fucking claims.

The cop claims.
The doc claims and his target.
The vig claims.
All the RB claim.

No fucking lies.

MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

Everything is
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April 17 2014 10:35 GMT
#853
On April 17 2014 19:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
@ koshi

kush is town too right?

ahyeah he is 60% town. I forgot about him.
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April 17 2014 10:36 GMT
#854
On April 17 2014 19:34 Koshi wrote:
Tomorrow. Everybody fucking claims.

The cop claims.
The doc claims and his target.
The vig claims.
All the RB claim.

No fucking lies.

MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

Everything is

Everything is one shot.

btw, the RB people claim first.
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April 17 2014 10:37 GMT
#856
First the RB(s)
Then the vig (even if not yet shot)
Then the doc (his target should be RB)
Then the cop

I would like it if doc / cop use actions tonight. I would advice that strongly.
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April 17 2014 10:40 GMT
#858
On April 17 2014 19:37 thrawn2112 wrote:
i hope nobody claims. i'm useless at setup speculation and claims just make me hesitant about all my reads

Dude, for example if there are 2 RBs you can bet there is a doc and a scum rb.
That means that the doc needs to be cc by scum or free townie.

There are very likely equal town powerroles vs equal scum power roles in this set-up.

There are very likely not 2 of the same. Unless there are only 2 powerroles. Because this is a normal mini set-up.


Day 2 claims need to happen.
It will give shitton of information.
I promise.
Make it happen.
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April 17 2014 10:54 GMT
#860
btw. Scum kp can not be RB.
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April 17 2014 11:17 GMT
#862
hahahahahhahaaha.
I just was rereading Djagulingu his filter and I start panicking because the first page was so scummy and not what I remembered at all.

Then I saw it was cavalinho his filter.

crisis averted.
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April 17 2014 11:19 GMT
#863
On April 15 2014 23:18 Djagulingu wrote:
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On April 15 2014 22:24 Koshi wrote:
Or super duper townreads?

I read town on OneThousandWords

Can you explain this one? Still do?
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April 17 2014 11:22 GMT
#864
I am so sure OTW and cavalinho are scum atm. Fuck.
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April 17 2014 11:28 GMT
#866
OTW IS SO FUCKING SCUM
HOLY FUCKING BALLS.
HE IS SO FROM TL AS WELL. less certain. Still monies on HF.

1) Makes case on cav who is scum
2) agrees with kush case on cav. but x,y,z who are bullshit makes him town for some reason noboby knows, then adds some extra reasons to why cav is scum.
3) has a townread on cav out of nowhere
4) retracts townread on cav.

LYNCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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April 17 2014 11:33 GMT
#867
This game is solved for me.
Those 2 die.
Make sure cop checks OO/Kush or somebody else you think is likely to be scum but unlikely to be lynched soon.
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April 17 2014 11:34 GMT
#868
I guess in theory you could check your weakest scumread out of OTW/Cav.
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April 17 2014 11:51 GMT
#869
On April 17 2014 19:54 Koshi wrote:
btw. Scum kp can not be RB.

kinda unfair cuz our kp can be rb
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#872
On April 17 2014 20:51 kushm4sta wrote:
Kochi this is your meta now? You turned into rayn without the experience or work ethic to back it up.

I don't even know what you are talking about. But this is how I am playing. Obviously.
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April 17 2014 12:15 GMT
#874
damned.
Ok.
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April 17 2014 12:19 GMT
#877
I can't agree on thrawn. Like. My reads are probably shit this game but no. That would be horrible.
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April 17 2014 12:32 GMT
#879
On April 17 2014 21:27 kushm4sta wrote:
koshi if you admit your reads are probably terrible why are you acting so sure about them

Who knows.
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April 17 2014 12:50 GMT
#881
world shatters.
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April 17 2014 12:50 GMT
#882
He still isn't scum though.
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April 17 2014 12:55 GMT
#885
No. I just can't believe scum trawn is this active.
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April 17 2014 12:57 GMT
#886
No just look at that filter. I don't see it happen.
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April 17 2014 14:10 GMT
#894
now dick move analysis makes thrawn town as well. yay!
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April 17 2014 14:20 GMT
#900
thrawn can you answer OTW his case? There are some good parts in there. It should be cleared up.
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April 17 2014 14:22 GMT
#902
On April 17 2014 23:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On April 17 2014 23:20 Koshi wrote:
thrawn can you answer OTW his case? There are some good parts in there. It should be cleared up.


no there aren't.

Sure there is. The part where you look like you want to lynch Cavalinho unless FT fucks off and you vote FT anyway. What happened there?
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April 17 2014 14:24 GMT
#904
On April 17 2014 23:23 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On April 17 2014 23:22 Koshi wrote:
On April 17 2014 23:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
On April 17 2014 23:20 Koshi wrote:
thrawn can you answer OTW his case? There are some good parts in there. It should be cleared up.


no there aren't.

Sure there is. The part where you look like you want to lynch Cavalinho unless FT fucks off and you vote FT anyway. What happened there?


ft fucked off. he told us it was ok for us to lynch him him to avoid a no lynch and then stopped trying to save himself.

oh ok. yeah that would do it. Let me check.
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April 17 2014 14:26 GMT
#905
These are the things you found scummy on FT?

On April 17 2014 12:35 FirmTofu wrote:
If I get lynched, I'm confident town will find its way. I'm just gonna wait for the flip now.

On April 17 2014 12:39 FirmTofu wrote:
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On April 17 2014 12:37 thrawn2112 wrote:
On April 17 2014 12:35 FirmTofu wrote:
If I get lynched, I'm confident town will find its way. I'm just gonna wait for the flip now.



btw I'm probably the swing vote. and I'm still not completely shut off to the idea of lynching you. So what do you think about cavalinho now that he's arrived?

if you just fuck off then that WILL increase your chances of being lynched

Well, right now I think that Cavalinho is the only other possible lynch today. I think he is still a good target mostly because of his meta and partly because of Kush's case.

I think voting me to break the tie would be better for us than no lynch at all.

On April 17 2014 12:42 FirmTofu wrote:
Yeah, I think he'll flip scum. I think his recent posts are typical of desperation mafia plays.

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April 17 2014 14:27 GMT
#906
I am so biased atm. that looks so towny.
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April 17 2014 14:33 GMT
#911
On April 17 2014 23:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
you think those post are indicative of a townie who is about to get mislynched? you weren't there, the situation was really tense because the votes were tied at 4 each and a tie means a no lynch. and i'm screaming at both of them trying to get them to say something useful. and all he can think to say is stuff like "I think voting me to break the tie would be better for us than no lynch at all."

Yeah I agree. I can't put myself in that situation at all.
I also hate martyrs. But you know that they are town a lot.

FT didn't fuck at all btw. He kept giving reads. That's soooooooo fucking townie.
On April 17 2014 12:44 FirmTofu wrote:
I'm more interested in Vivax rushing to a last minute defense of Cava.


On April 17 2014 12:47 FirmTofu wrote:
Meh, Vivax's defense seems too organic. It feels like a very risky play for mafia to make. I don't think he's scum.

Cavalinho, on the other hand, probably is.

On April 17 2014 12:48 FirmTofu wrote:
Peace out guys, follow Kush to victory, he knows what he's doing.


On April 17 2014 12:54 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2014 12:51 Cavalinho wrote:
On April 17 2014 12:47 FirmTofu wrote:
Meh, Vivax's defense seems too organic. It feels like a very risky play for mafia to make. I don't think he's scum.

Cavalinho, on the other hand, probably is.


Have you actually said anything that has any basis in fact?

Vivax has made good points, and you have yet to address any of them while egging on my lynch. Here, you're just going "yeah cav is probably scum." Have you actually sat down and considered that something like that might have put you on the wrong track?

Addressing Vivax's points and defending myself is completely useless for town at this point. If people think vivax is on the right track, I can't change their minds in 10 minutes.

My best course of action is to give town all the assistance I can so they can play well going forward.

On April 17 2014 12:59 FirmTofu wrote:
Just a few reads before I die:
Town
Kush, Koshi, thrawn, skanjab?

Scummy
OO, OTW, mderg, Omni(although recently he looks better)

Everyone else is nullish. I haven't looked much into Dja so... he could be scum too.

Scummers are empty active to remove a lynch from them.
Townies give reads.
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April 17 2014 14:34 GMT
#913
I blame America and Obama.
Europe should always be in charge of the lynch.
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April 17 2014 14:37 GMT
#917
On April 17 2014 23:35 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On April 17 2014 23:34 Koshi wrote:
I blame America and Obama.
Europe should always be in charge of the lynch.


then why dont you fucking show up next time?

so mad.
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April 17 2014 14:38 GMT
#918
Guys, imo thrawn pretty cool guy.

Shouldn't be lynched/shot/copped imho.

That OO guy, he is sneaky.
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April 17 2014 14:46 GMT
#922
On April 17 2014 23:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
koshi why are you indulging this stupidity if you think i'm 100% town?

It's fun and they are pretty set on the fact you are scum. It's hurting nobody except maybe your ego. It's even helping town because they are really really set on it.

Do you see something wrong with how they push you as scum? Do they do it all scummylike?
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April 17 2014 14:47 GMT
#923
Also imagine if I am wrong.
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#948
On April 18 2014 02:16 OneThousandWords wrote:
It's ok Thrawn, I think everything will resolve itself tomorrow

Also, what has ObviousOne done all game? He has only pushed mderg AFAIK and that is the person who was attacking the claimed vig. I made the assumption that no sane scum would do that, so why has ObviousOne made the opposite conclusion and why is that pretty much his only contribution?

He practically refrains from being a part of the Cav/Tofu lynch.

Captain obvious.
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#952
On April 18 2014 03:16 OneThousandWords wrote:
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On April 18 2014 02:39 Koshi wrote:
On April 18 2014 02:16 OneThousandWords wrote:
It's ok Thrawn, I think everything will resolve itself tomorrow

Also, what has ObviousOne done all game? He has only pushed mderg AFAIK and that is the person who was attacking the claimed vig. I made the assumption that no sane scum would do that, so why has ObviousOne made the opposite conclusion and why is that pretty much his only contribution?

He practically refrains from being a part of the Cav/Tofu lynch.

Captain obvious.


Has ObviousOne received some sort of captaincy? I was unaware.

Koshi, I know you posted a list of people you scum read earlier but subsequently it gives me the benefit of seeing that you are wrong on me. I pretty much agree with what you wrote about the other two though, so, replacing me who is your third? I'd wholeheartedly suggest thrawn but you seem to have a town read on him.

I think it is going to be mderg.
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April 17 2014 18:53 GMT
#953
Or Kush
But you guys got the townread on Kush.
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April 17 2014 18:54 GMT
#954
I hope we have a cop that does a good check or is lynchbait himself. Same counts for doc and vig tbh.
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#955
town only got 2 misslynches but they got the claims.
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#959
On April 18 2014 05:31 kushm4sta wrote:
that was sarcasm btw
@koshi what happened to the koshi who was amazing at reading me and always knew when i was scum?

You changed. Blame yourself.
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#965
On April 18 2014 06:34 ObviousOne wrote:
Last thought before I go lose everything in my gut, anyone who wants to see thrawn shot tonight should be shot.

Are you saying both you and thrawn are scum?

wow.

The rumors are true.
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April 17 2014 21:53 GMT
#966
Cavalinho
ObviousOne
Skanjab1s
mderg
OmniEulogy
OneThousandWords
Djagulingu
Kush
Vivax
thrawn

I would lynch in this order I guess. The guys on the bottom should die though. The guys on top are hopefully blues or confirmed by blues.

Koshi out!
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April 18 2014 06:49 GMT
#991
I was totes rb. I guess I drew the doc on me.


Also why am I scum for those 2 deaths?
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#992
Anyway. That is the list I gave before night Kush. Like that is my top 4 without cav.

I have no problem to be in that list but it is dumb.
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April 18 2014 06:55 GMT
#993
Also. Djag dieing means scum is hiding beteen vets????? I almost cant believe it but you should swap my name with thrawn.
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#994
Good shot anyway. Quite happy he flipped.
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#995
Omg djag was doc... sad day. So I am guessing no cop.
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#996
I am going to think 1 more guy got rb? Did that happen?
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#997
Skanjab answer first.
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#1001
On April 18 2014 16:03 thrawn2112 wrote:
koshi why dio you keep pretending like you're unsuer about your read on me?

Meh. Dnu. I am never 100% town on anybody unless they lynch scummers or shoot people apperantly. Paranoia always kicks in. But you also think I could be scum. Nobody else just entertains the idea except Kush and you agreed. So in the end. Paranoia gets us both.
I.got many pages filter bro. I.shouldnt.be scum by default.

It doesnt matter yet. If oo or whoever we lynch next flips town we will be very sad.
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#1005
On April 18 2014 16:29 thrawn2112 wrote:
is there anything for the two of us to talk about?

I doubt it. Maybe figure.out a way so game does not bleed dead and becomes lynch the list of candidates. 48h to check out this OO meta and read djag filter.
Atm on phone so will do it later.
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#1006
On April 18 2014 16:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
scum should have shot kush imo

It's kinda strange they did not shoot in the 4 of us. Dnu what to make of it.
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April 18 2014 07:40 GMT
#1007
Like if any out of OO and skanjab arent scum. Scum is playing.really well. Grtz to them.
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#1009
You werent?
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#1010
Scumslip?
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#1012
Yeah that emo defense...
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#1013
Anyway. Grtz if you are a scummer thrawn. Pretty good play. I am a bit afk.
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April 18 2014 09:25 GMT
#1025
Scum nk can not be rb. Djag knew. He also quoted the post I said it in. I know realize he asked me if I was blue.
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April 18 2014 09:27 GMT
#1027
Now*

Also somewhere in start I accidently said I was vig. If you read closely. I will quote it later. Maybe in razy universe I got 2 rb.
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#1030
If he is scum and I claim rb and he knows I got rb he can fakeclaim rb. I dnu. I dont want to lynch skan for this obviously but it is probably going to happen unless he starts playing.
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April 18 2014 09:33 GMT
#1032
On April 18 2014 18:29 thrawn2112 wrote:
see koshi, this is why i hvae doubts about you. because every now and then you say or do something that mkes no fuckign sense...

like calling me 100% town and then immediately indulging djag's stupidity and giving him more ammunition to use against me. then you say that it's probably a good thing that people are suspicious of the guy you think is 100% town.

Hey I trusted townie his read could be right. OTW said same. Shizzle is possible.

There are these things you know... like otw saying I am scum for ignoring his case on you. Shit like that smells like busscases. Small things.

But I am very town on you.
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#1033
On April 18 2014 18:31 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On April 18 2014 18:30 Koshi wrote:
If he is scum and I claim rb and he knows I got rb he can fakeclaim rb. I dnu. I dont want to lynch skan for this obviously but it is probably going to happen unless he starts playing.


do you care who gets lynched? it doesn't sound like it from this post

Rofl. Many hours to go.
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April 18 2014 09:36 GMT
#1035
I posted a list in night. I still stand by that list. Omni just became confirmed town.
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#1036
On April 18 2014 18:36 thrawn2112 wrote:
koshi are you saying you think skan is town? or just that you don't like my arguments. and if it's the latter then what is your read on him

I just corrected 2 things in that post. Offensive rb and rb being used on scum.
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April 18 2014 09:40 GMT
#1039
Wrong impression.
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#1043
On April 18 2014 18:40 kushm4sta wrote:
1 oo
2 mderg
3 OTW
something like that

Yes.
I was very wrong this game. Early game I was on omni ass, OTW ass and Kush ass and I pushed mderg town. Those 3 didnt help me at all to change my views. Very possible. Add skan and then you have the 1 misslynch in the group. Vivax kush trawn.... just very likely town. Vivax needs to come back though. He wants to become hard try as scum. Maybe he was d1 lynch
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April 18 2014 09:51 GMT
#1045
If it is otw town and skanjab scum this game was so bad from me. Rofl.
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April 18 2014 09:52 GMT
#1047
Cuz otw changed my view on him every time he came back like instantly.
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April 18 2014 09:54 GMT
#1049
Oh well. Really love this vig shot.
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April 18 2014 10:17 GMT
#1051
Not really.
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#1052
On April 17 2014 21:18 Djagulingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2014 20:51 Koshi wrote:
On April 17 2014 19:54 Koshi wrote:
btw. Scum kp can not be RB.

kinda unfair cuz our kp can be rb

And if our doc tries to protect our DT and our DT tries to get a check, he gets RB'd too.

This. This was a fucking blue claim. He didn't say he was going to protect the vig. He said DT. And asked me if I was DT.
Now. If scummers saw this I can sleep peacefully.

Otherwise. I don't understand why Djag died.

The only thing he wanted was cav lynched. (and thrawn shot, but not lynched)
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April 18 2014 10:23 GMT
#1053
Ughhhhhh.

Like, thrawn seriously, you see this shit right?

He wants 2 townies dead and he gets shot over more "confirmed" townies like Vivax, Koshi, Kush.

I mean.

Why was I not shot?
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April 18 2014 10:24 GMT
#1054
Or even you btw, why not shoot Thrawn and then Djag will lynch cav.
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April 18 2014 10:25 GMT
#1055
There is no difference between Djag and Thrawn, except thrawn thinks cav is town and Djag thinks that both thrawn and cav are scum.


Like... What is the best nk when thrawn is town???
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April 18 2014 10:26 GMT
#1056
I will slowely step away from my computer.

First let me look for that Quote in which I maybe said I was vig. I remember it.
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#1058
On April 15 2014 22:03 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 22:00 OneThousandWords wrote:
On April 15 2014 21:57 Koshi wrote:
On April 15 2014 21:54 OneThousandWords wrote:
On April 15 2014 21:45 kushm4sta wrote:
O Kochi I got you mixed up with some other dude.

Skan you realize you might be roleblocked ...


There's 3 possible scenario's here (although only if RB's are notified which OP doesn't mention AFAIK):

1) He is VT claiming a role and in which case he draws a RB and real roles can get on.
2) He is vig and draws a RB for better roles that give information.
3) He is mafia and has to claim being RB which enables all town roles to do their stuff.


I fixed that for you. Because that addendum was bullshit.


Why so? He just claimed vig. If he is mafia and claiming vig (which I agree is very very unlikely) then he has to claim being RB'd otherwise it would be incredibly suspicious. There is no way a claimed vig would not get RB'd or claim it if he is mafia because the risk of shooting mafia is always there.

Simply because you are also not yet sure if he is the real vigi y/n.
You believe he is VT, then mafia can think he is VT. Then mafia can not RB him.

The question is if this lie will be valuable for town in the end. Most of time lies end up bad. Because look how you are thinking.

On the one hand you say he can be VT if he draws a RB
But if he is VT and he didn't draw a RB you are opening a door to call him scum.

Here I say I only see it as a lie. It's kinda thin. But yeah.........

I also found this:
On April 15 2014 21:26 Koshi wrote:
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On April 15 2014 21:05 Skanjab1s wrote:
On April 15 2014 20:19 Koshi wrote:
On April 15 2014 20:15 Skanjab1s wrote:
On April 15 2014 19:56 Koshi wrote:
You don't think he is scum?


No, I don't, he's a townie through and through. Do you think he's scum?

I see no reason to think he is town.


That doesn't really answer the question.

Exactly.

I am going to be very upset if this is a game in which I have to drag every piece of information out of you. You can clearly see I am considering Omni as scum, you say he is towniest town that towned and don't give a single reason. Who is at fault here? I am trying to scumhunt here. You are trying your best to be obstructive. Not pressuring Omni at all, calling everybody who thinks there is a slight possibility he is scum bad (as you don't think there is a reason to share your 100% townread on omni) and you are wasting our time.

So.

Can you give all your reads so far this game and give me an explanation for those reads? I want to go forward.

Just quoting this so we can lynch Skanjab. With his dumb townread on Omni.
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#1062
On April 18 2014 19:56 mderg wrote:
interesting night actions. I thought skan was scum before the night and now I´m even more sure about that.

Why?
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#1064
Why was he looking scummy?
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April 18 2014 11:19 GMT
#1066
ohyeah the bickering between you 2. amagad.

I need Sgt. Vivax on that shit. Constable Koshi awaits.
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April 18 2014 14:36 GMT
#1072
mderg. You are my only salvation.
You better be town bro.
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April 18 2014 14:37 GMT
#1074
otherwise mafia depression.
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April 18 2014 14:41 GMT
#1076
Not really. But thx.
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April 18 2014 14:42 GMT
#1077
##vote: ObviousOne
Most anti town player.
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#1083
On April 19 2014 00:18 kushm4sta wrote:
koshi like i said.. arrogance got to you. dat power rank.

mderg are you following this OO bullshit? What thinks you of it?

rofl has nothing to do with it. Nothing was happening this game so I did stuff.
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#1091
Can't you just tell me?
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#1092
Also pls take a look at the conversation between skanjab and mrderg.
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#1095
can theyboth be scum in your experience?
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#1097
On April 19 2014 06:27 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2014 06:25 Koshi wrote:
can theyboth be scum in your experience?


I don't think mderg is scum, you wanted to get at something connection-y?

No I wonder if you think that conversation can be done scum/scum. At that time in the game. 50% of both their filter.
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#1099
He claimed vig right before daypost.
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April 19 2014 11:31 GMT
#1102
If it was 8 months ago I would feel hesitant to lynch OO because he would be the disappointing townie lynch. But lately it's cool. Scummers are afkers now.

I guess we should look at OO meta and see if he does this afk thing a lot.
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#1104
totally is
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April 19 2014 21:36 GMT
#1114
Can we like get more votes on the OO guy.
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April 19 2014 21:38 GMT
#1115
There is a wagon of justice and there is a wagon of doubt.
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#1118
Ok that settles that.
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April 19 2014 21:49 GMT
#1119
If somebody feels like pushing something else than OO. I hope you bring the sickest reasons.
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#1122
Wait. Why is thrawn not scum anymore?
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#1131
On April 20 2014 09:04 Vivax wrote:
Koshi since you asked me earlier about that precise conversation, can you elaborate what it was you were seeing?

Nothing. That's why I needed your mad skillz.
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On April 20 2014 09:03 Vivax wrote:
That last post by OO just screams scum and I'm actually starting to think I could have been wrong on mderg.

Huge post and fucking off is what I would expect from a scum giving up and since then we didn't hear anything from our german fellow. Given the current time in EU i doubt he will drop a post before the deadline.

Mderg's inactivity IS scummy if OO is indeed scum which at this point is very likely. In this scenario a demoralized scum team is what we're expecting today, a scum team only doing half-assed efforts to win the game, and that also brings me to Skanja dropping a post claiming he has no time.

If we analyze Skanja's fakeclaim and the subsequent reactions, imagining that his team disapproved, we can also imagine how they were angry at him and lost motivation to play the game. This would also explain the early attack from mderg on skanja when everybody was just treating that claim as unimportant.

If mderg HAD the extra information, and saw skanja dicking around and playing risky, then that would explain the overall low activity, especially now that it matters, and his desire for that extensive early attack on Skanja.

Most of this is connection based for the moment but we shouldn't just lean back and lynch OO without planning the next steps.

That is so hard try. Don't like it.
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April 20 2014 02:01 GMT
#1133
ofc we just lynch OO...
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April 20 2014 04:10 GMT
#1137
Somebody wants to claim cop?
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April 20 2014 04:30 GMT
#1139
Sleeping now. OO filter might be good stuff. Never mentions skanjab. Also his mderg read might be strange. Tomoorow though.
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April 20 2014 12:56 GMT
#1167
Oh boy Vivax is scum.
That's so sad.

so fucking sad.
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#1168
What about OTW Vivax?
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#1169
Anyway. Vivax is scum because he doesn't know who the scummers are.
All of us has some kind of list.

Kush gave his list and Vivax his response was "Why am I 4th place on this list"

Then a bit later Vivax says Kush is scum.

That means that Vivax has at least another problem with Kush his list. Or is uncertain about somebody.

But he only talked about himself after Kush gave his list.

Anyway. Vivax scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 20 2014 17:54 GMT
#1170
On April 20 2014 18:30 Vivax wrote:
Also you got to explain to me how you put skanja last in your list, AFTER ME. That doesn't make any fucking sense. He's a guy who fakeclaimed and doesn't play the game, whereas I'm town and playing like town like the majority already realized.

How is this Vivax level of comprehension?

Skanjab & Vivax last 2 scums.

Tomorrow lynch Vivax.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 20 2014 18:39 GMT
#1172
WoW
So Evul

You just killed Kush.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 20 2014 18:51 GMT
#1173
Is it me or is OTW trying to make Vivax look townie in that post? And then Kush and Myself get a little FoS for saying something bad about Vivax
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 20 2014 18:53 GMT
#1174
Like. I am scum for association.
That's kinda it.

2 scum left and I am scum because:
"Vivax was also one of Koshi's top town reads and suddenly when it looks like scummy people like mderg or skanjab1s are getting lynched he switches to vivax being scum and tomorrow's lynch even though vivax was only one doing effort things in quiet period."

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 20 2014 18:53 GMT
#1175
I don't like it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 20 2014 19:46 GMT
#1178
If you can't feel that I am town from the flow in this game I don't know bro.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 20 2014 19:47 GMT
#1179
I yelled at everybody that they are scum.

Literally everybody.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 20 2014 19:49 GMT
#1180
thrawn not so long ago.
Vivax as you know
Kush in start
Yourself.
OO
Omni

Just everybody.


And now you pick some targets out of that and call me scum cause I called x scum when y,z were getting heat. Or you paint it scummy that I made a deal out of the fact I said something you did was incorrect but didn't call it scummy.

dafuq is up wit that? What you said was wrong and I called it scummy a shitton of times. Now you say I called it only incorrect and not scummy.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 20 2014 19:50 GMT
#1181
I don't really care.

You are not getting me lynched.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 20 2014 19:56 GMT
#1182
skanjab dies.
Vivax dies.

Then we see what happens in lylo.


My advice to town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 20 2014 20:18 GMT
#1184
OTW and Vivax then?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 20 2014 20:19 GMT
#1186
Really?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 20 2014 20:22 GMT
#1187
if mderg is scum OTW is like 100% confirmed town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 20 2014 20:22 GMT
#1188
Or he really thinks he can get me lynched.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 20 2014 20:29 GMT
#1190
He puts mderg in a pretty bad situation if he thinks is it mderg/koshi.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 20 2014 20:30 GMT
#1191
He first has mderg/skanjab and then goes mderg/Koshi. So if mderg is scum otw prolly isn't.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 20 2014 21:12 GMT
#1193
I have to say. Totally neutral. That if you think mderg is scum I could be scum as well.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 20 2014 21:12 GMT
#1194
connection based.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 20 2014 21:13 GMT
#1195
So I don't hold it against you otw.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 20 2014 21:45 GMT
#1200
On April 21 2014 06:21 OmniEulogy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 06:17 OneThousandWords wrote:
Huh? Can you explain what you just meant?


you could be making a connection with mderg and Koshi if you assume mderg is scum.

is how I understood that..

yup. Hard defense d1 and all.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 20 2014 21:53 GMT
#1202
The good news is I can just link my scumgames to you then.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 21 2014 00:30 GMT
#1206
On April 21 2014 04:56 Koshi wrote:
Vivax dies.

Then we see what happens in lylo.


My advice to town.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 21 2014 00:31 GMT
#1207
Skanjab is also fine. But I would start with Vivax.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 21 2014 01:29 GMT
#1209
I am not worried.

want to share your reads?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 21 2014 02:07 GMT
#1217
Nha D1 lynch was pretty wp by Vivax. The fact he tried to do it again out of the blue for the D2 lynch was scummy.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 21 2014 02:11 GMT
#1219
On April 21 2014 10:46 OneThousandWords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 10:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
i dont really have any right now

everyone that isn't kush/koshi are about the same level of scuminess and I could lynch any of them. hopefully we will know more after the deadline.

skan/vivax are who i most want to lynch.

i have no idea how to read OTW and i still don't see why mderg is so scummy


Well I've never rolled scum in all 2 of the forum mafia games I've played so that's a start!

Can someone explain the vivax lynch because he looks really towny from his filter and koshi brought up that he was scum based on one really small point and seems to be super certain of it all of a sudden. I still don't understand because he never elaborated.

Vivax is a pretty good player, so I expect that he knows who is scum by now. Or at least has a couple names. Just like yourself, you think it is Mderg/Koshi/Skanjab.

But Vivax in response of Kush made it quite obvious he didn't have a clue who to push. That's extremely scummy because as scum you don't have a "scumhunting storyline" or you don't really feel who you got to push because you are playing reactionary to the thread.

So when Kush had Vivax as 4th scum. Vivax made a problem of this. This means that Vivax doesn't think that the scummers were with the first 3. But a couple minutes later Vivax even claimed he had Kush as scum. So that's 4 scummers right there. So who the fuck does Vivax think is scum?

Vivax doesn't know who is scum. Vivax is scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 21 2014 02:13 GMT
#1221
Or maybe Kush had Vivax as 3rd scum. Anyway. Doesn't matter.

Vivax went all omg Kush you should totally lynch Skanjab before me. Skanjab only lies about his claims and is afk. While I only do townie things and I am town.

While you are at it. Please claim scum because I think you are scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 21 2014 02:15 GMT
#1222
I think it is Skanjab and Vivax.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 21 2014 02:15 GMT
#1223
Vivax was upset that Kush wanted to lynch Vivax first because he tried harder than skanjab.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 21 2014 02:16 GMT
#1224
No wait. Bad English.

Vivax was upset with Kush because Kush read Vivax as scum over Skanjab while Vivax finds that's unfair because he tried harder to play good mafia.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 21 2014 02:26 GMT
#1227
On April 21 2014 11:22 OneThousandWords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 11:16 Koshi wrote:
No wait. Bad English.

Vivax was upset with Kush because Kush read Vivax as scum over Skanjab while Vivax finds that's unfair because he tried harder to play good mafia.


Ok this makes sense. Unfortunately for you, I'm still not mafia.

What? I haven't said you are mafia in ages.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 21 2014 02:35 GMT
#1228
There is a giant conversation between OO and Vivax in the thread. Knowing that OO didn't give 2 fucks about scumhunting it is quite funny to see him try so hard to scumhunt with Vivax.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 21 2014 02:37 GMT
#1230
Ahno. That was Vivax talking to Kush. Yeah not clear it was.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 21 2014 03:06 GMT
#1231
On April 19 2014 07:35 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2014 06:56 Koshi wrote:
On April 19 2014 06:27 Vivax wrote:
On April 19 2014 06:25 Koshi wrote:
can theyboth be scum in your experience?


I don't think mderg is scum, you wanted to get at something connection-y?

No I wonder if you think that conversation can be done scum/scum. At that time in the game. 50% of both their filter.


It's possible. I didn't really doubt the vig claim cause I figured it would get sorted out at a later point, but if your scumbuddy knows you're fakeclaiming you might feel like putting in an early attack on the claimer for a later gain, however I'm currently comfortable believing that mderg is town.

If you look at the quotes from OO you will notice that he called mderg scummy for wanting to lynch skanja at that point, mderg obliged and switched, OO didn't take that into account later and kept his vote on him, didn't deliver an own interpretation of that which is what I want him to do now and is one of the things I wanted you to notice. Also, that's the only reason he voted for mderg.

Additionally, if you look at the first post you will notice how it's wall-of-text-like with very little information, I mentioned that earlier in D1.

We should lynch Skanja or OO today and they both should be starting to contribute if they don't want that to happen. Still got questions open for you.


Additionally, I have a question for OE: Are you the vigilante? Cause earlier you said that Skanja's claim was likely fake.

Damned. Is Vivax just bussing 100%
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 21 2014 03:07 GMT
#1232
On April 17 2014 06:20 Vivax wrote:
@ OO

PoE AND posts like this:

Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 03:46 ObviousOne wrote:
On April 15 2014 21:23 kushm4sta wrote:
Haven't read newest shit but

Oo why you want to plynch Akaka if you have no problem town reading him?
Why you gotta shit town read thrawn based on bullshit?

I wouldn't say that his activity is the only way to read him and it's subjective anyhow, I basically caught him through POE and that was the best reason I could come up with in Toy Story, he exhibited both behaviors there so I'm going to use the guideline until it no longer works (i.e. he steps up and plays the game). He's a policy lynch because I have no idea what the fuck he is saying 99% of the time. He seems to have the goal of being unreadable in every game he plays and that puts him in my "ok to policy lynch" group because I'd hate to lose to him (again, lol).

re: thrawn, how would you suggest I eliminate people from the lynch based on their behavior if not on some basic first post instinct when the game is like 20 minutes in? I've opened lines of communication when in the past things have been not so great between us, unless I recall incorrectly. The last game we played together I wanted to lynch him and he ended up being town, so I'm trying a new approach so I don't immediately put him in a category labeled "people I want to lynch because I hate"

Gotta re-read after I get some coffee in me. Only other thought I had for the moment is I didn't immediately want to lynch Koshi which is standing out to me. I think he's more actively participating (rather than posting for what looks like the sake of posting) than in other games I've read/played with him in them. Maybe that's some kind of themed-level-Koshi and I haven't seen a normal ass game Koshi in recent memory?


Let's split this into three text blocks. First block is a huge answer about Kaslam. That's ok, that's not my beef, kush asked you a question.
The second block is defensive in my opinion. What is your intention here since according to kush you townread thrawn? Btw point me to what you're replying cause thrawn didn't even ask you anything O_o (I don't think I've missed such a thing while looking for it).
The third block is meh. Says something semi-conclusive, ends up with a question to yourself. You still got trouble getting a conclusion about Koshi?



Show nested quote +
On April 17 2014 06:00 mderg wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 15 2014 21:42 OneThousandWords wrote:
Djagulingu, you describe your town play as:

Show nested quote +
My town play is really stalk heavy. I watch all of you. All of you, when you post, when you sleep, when you work, when you eat. I might come out of nowhere with random people to lynch for random reasons. They did come out true though.

I would define my town play as systematic instead of impulsive, I don't care about collateral damage, sharp and decisive over overly cautious.


In this game you have already called 2 people scum for supposed scum slips. Am I to assume that you have now 180° on your own meta so quickly? This doesn't look very systematic to me, it looks like the complete opposite. You jump on people and call them scum without much basis and state that you are helping the town by making a pro-town atmosphere of sophisticated discussion when, instead, you are steering people in a very specific direction on a point of view that seems entirely skewed on pushing an agenda.

I don´t agree with this case on Djagulingu. It´s purely based on Djagu´s self meta which I think is always difficult to base a case on.


+ Show Spoiler +
On April 16 2014 07:23 OneThousandWords wrote:
I also find it odd how Cavalinho has chosen to respond to posts in the thread. His chose his first posts of the game to say hi and that he isn't going to comment on anything because nothing has happened. I find this in and of itself strange. When people first start the game they usually start to converse with people or even talk about policy, however, Cavalinho decided not to have any part of the conversation whatsoever.

Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 14:36 Cavalinho wrote:
On April 15 2014 14:32 ObviousOne wrote:
On April 15 2014 13:54 Cavalinho wrote:
Hi.

Right on, right on. What you thinking about right now?


Nothing has happened yet.

So...Nothing.


Now, understandably we do not know the circumstances and I'd like to hear more from him but then he returns to the thread after quite some time to post, well, nothing. His only real post is a post to jump on discrediting OmniEulogy (whether justly or not).

Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 04:05 Cavalinho wrote:
On April 16 2014 03:57 OmniEulogy wrote:
I'm not even tunneling you. If I thought you were scum I'd vote for you. Are you scummy to me? yes.


Uhh.

Also I don't get the points in your post at all.


I find this an odd behavioural tidbit because IMO this is not a townies mindset.

I agree with this case on cav


+ Show Spoiler +
On April 16 2014 23:54 OneThousandWords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 19:22 Koshi wrote:
OneThousandWords
Did absolutely NOTHING.

Went in an argument with me defending the fact that skanjab HAS TO CLAIM RB OR IS MAFIA ON D2 while OTW himself didn't believe the Vig claim.

Then he made some halfassed case on Cavalinho which simply isn't enough for a smurf. Even if Cavalinho is suspicious, it doesn't change the fact OTW has done nothing. Just some silly quotes enabling him to fly under radar.


This is categorically false. Where do I state that I don't believe he could be vig? Also, I've seen the word smurf thrown around. If it's used in the same way as MOBA games then you're wrong, I was invited here by a friend from another mafia site.

Here is wherein the real problem lies. All the people that you seemingly "like" for things that they have done have quite simply started from posts that I have made.

Thrawn's main contributions this game:

Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 15:52 thrawn2112 wrote:
lets lynch mderg

Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 16:20 thrawn2112 wrote:
No. He made a huge post that doesn't contribute anything. He didn't say a single thing that is relevant to the lynch. It's even worse than no scumreads, there are no reads of any kind. He argued his points without giving any indication that he was forming reads based off of the things he was arguing against.



This is his first contribution into the thread other than the non-sensical replies to longer posts earlier in his filter and it's just piggybacking off a post that I made earlier in the thread here. This is a relatively easy thing to do as mafia because:

A) It lets people appear to be contributing.

B) If worded differently but similar it enables people to pocket the other people that made the original case because they have seemingly similar reads.

C) To the people that didn't read it they are fooled into believing it is original content.

Now, on it's own I know this is not enough, however, thrawn's behaviour is not your typical town behaviour! He flits from one lynch to the next with little explanation. He practically wants to lynch half the game!

I've mentioned Mderg before.

Here he wants to lynch Kush. + Show Spoiler +
On April 16 2014 17:53 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 17:36 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty meh on Kush atm.
Very meh.


same for me. becasue of this post

Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 04:48 kushm4sta wrote:
T-5 hours until you both realize each other are town (regardless of if you are or not)



He wants to lynch ME which is somewhat of a kick in the teeth seeing as he is the one that is sheeping MY point of view on mderg. What could be the reason for this? Is he not reading what i've written? Nope. It's something about skan and nothing about the actual player that he got his read from. + Show Spoiler +
On April 16 2014 19:26 thrawn2112 wrote:
100words is probably my 2nd lynch choice. i almost voted for him instead of that other guy. what stood out to me is how his main talking point was skan's claim and how pointless it was to talk about the claim yet he did nothing but talk about the claim

koshi i'll fully read and respond to that meta when i wake up. too tired/tipsy for that right now. but i did skim one of the links and I notice that he likes to argue about stuff without thinking about alignments. so my preliminary answer to you question is yes, the meta does sorta make me uncertain about lnyching him.



He wants to policy lynch an AFK player who is talking about nonsense (Alakaslam).

He wants to also look into OE who he also says is scummy before even looking into him. This is not what I expect a typical person to do. Usually it's:

I'll look into a player ----> Here is why he is scummy.

Thrawn's view is.

This is a somewhat scummy player ----> Going to go look into him after I've already made my decision about whether he is scummy or not!


In conclusion thrawn is a person who, while talking a lot, seems to be a person of fleeting wishes. He is keen to hop onto anyone he can push a lynch onto. He hasn't "read the thread" and pushes others reads as his own. He calls the person he got his case for on his vote choice scum based on early conversation in a time where nothing was happening.



##Vote Thrawn2112

Here I agree on the part about thrawns first contribution being the case on me is scummy. I don´t think thrawn was sheeping OTW, though.




If you agree with his case on Cava why does he stay null for you when you ask me about the reads? Be honest, did you just go look for OTW's cases when I asked you?

If Vivax was town he would have pushed this harder after OO talked about it. Like OO hasn't got enough balls to go against a town Vivax like this.

I do not believe.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 21 2014 03:09 GMT
#1233
Sorry but OO made Vivax his bitch. Look at the entire conversation chain.
Vivax nails OO and OO is able to smooth talk out of it by doing some scumhunting?

I do not believe.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 21 2014 03:12 GMT
#1234
Also, there is no way town Vivax asks so many open questions on D2. He got mderg as town so his game should be easy. Figure out OTW and game is over.

But for some reason Vivax is not talking to OTW at all.

And then he talks to Kush and suddenly Kush is scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 21 2014 03:13 GMT
#1235
Well I am tunneled.

Scum better kills me, for WIFOM or for righteousness.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 21 2014 03:47 GMT
#1237
I am awesome.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 21 2014 04:00 GMT
#1238
fliptimes
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
May 01 2014 21:33 GMT
#1600
On April 30 2014 22:12 kushm4sta wrote:
Yah hosting was really solid this game.

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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
May 01 2014 21:33 GMT
#1601
Losses are so boring.
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