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On April 14 2014 19:20 Vivax wrote: It's becoming so tedious to get a game filled. Hope we both roll town Koshiboy :> (Not asking to be town, I still need to hone my mafia skillz and now I got 2 weeks lotsa time) Let's pray to the jeebus. | ||
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What shall we talk about? I am not policy lynching anybody. I am willing to lynch out of sheer disappointment though. Who is going to disappoint Koshi? | ||
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On April 15 2014 18:00 OmniEulogy wrote: yo man I'm all about that nova war random tangent video, how can you not enjoy this flavor. Also no, I'm not really concerned if Koshi is town right now. Town objective is not to find other townies it's to find scum. Finding townies is just a bi-product of catching the scum or do you spend all your time trying to identify town in mafia and I've been learning to do things backwards? Are you scumslipping I am town or am I not reading this propperly? | ||
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All right then. I prefer to work with PoE. If I can find obvious town I am as happy as when I find possible mafia. | ||
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On April 15 2014 17:50 thrawn2112 wrote: hi koshi Hi thrawn. I feel like I am going to need bestest thrawn this game. Let's be bestest friends. | ||
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OmniEulogy How are you doing buddy? | ||
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On April 15 2014 18:38 OmniEulogy wrote: I'm pretty good ![]() How do you discribe your scum play and your town play? | ||
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On April 15 2014 18:56 Skanjab1s wrote: Hey guys, I'm the Vig. I've only got 3 days to play this game, so claiming now is the best option. I will use my 1 shot tonight on whoever i deem worthy of it. So far, that person is OO, for insulting my honor. ... fake ... | ||
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Ok. Let me put scum next to your name then. | ||
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Thank you. Very kind of you. | ||
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Will be very low post game. Bleed towny if you are not planning on posting a lot. | ||
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On April 15 2014 20:15 Skanjab1s wrote: No, I don't, he's a townie through and through. Do you think he's scum? I see no reason to think he is town. | ||
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I don't see what you are seeing tbh. I can guess somewhere what you are thinking but it kinda thin. We will see. | ||
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Probably. Because if you are thinking what I am thinking you are thinking it is quite thin. | ||
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Exactly. I am going to be very upset if this is a game in which I have to drag every piece of information out of you. You can clearly see I am considering Omni as scum, you say he is towniest town that towned and don't give a single reason. Who is at fault here? I am trying to scumhunt here. You are trying your best to be obstructive. Not pressuring Omni at all, calling everybody who thinks there is a slight possibility he is scum bad (as you don't think there is a reason to share your 100% townread on omni) and you are wasting our time. So. Can you give all your reads so far this game and give me an explanation for those reads? I want to go forward. | ||
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On April 15 2014 21:28 kushm4sta wrote: K I read the newest stuff. Inb4 getript tries to ban skanjab. Also Kochi you are talking alot without content. Does that not mean you are scum by your own self meta? No. I don't self meta. I don't know where you read me self metaing. On April 15 2014 21:29 kushm4sta wrote: Koshi, true or false? Skans claim almost never is coming from scum. I don't care. It is probably unlikely but there was so much wrong with that post. I want to know why he made it in 24 hours. | ||
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On April 15 2014 21:54 OneThousandWords wrote: There's 3 possible scenario's here (although only if RB's are notified which OP doesn't mention AFAIK): 1) He is VT claiming a role and in which case he draws a RB and real roles can get on. 2) He is vig and draws a RB for better roles that give information. 3) He is mafia I fixed that for you. Because that addendum was bullshit. | ||
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On April 15 2014 21:54 Skanjab1s wrote: (1) Why would I pressure Omni, I think he is town? (2) I haven't called anyone who thinks omni is scum bad. Why are you making up things that are clearly not true? (3) You don't want to drag every piece of information out of me, but you admit to not answering my questions properly on purpose, and then try to say I'm the one being obstructive? What? (2) You are by not explaining your reads. (3) I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. YOU DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION. | ||
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On April 15 2014 22:00 OneThousandWords wrote: Why so? He just claimed vig. If he is mafia and claiming vig (which I agree is very very unlikely) then he has to claim being RB'd otherwise it would be incredibly suspicious. There is no way a claimed vig would not get RB'd or claim it if he is mafia because the risk of shooting mafia is always there. Simply because you are also not yet sure if he is the real vigi y/n. You believe he is VT, then mafia can think he is VT. Then mafia can not RB him. The question is if this lie will be valuable for town in the end. Most of time lies end up bad. Because look how you are thinking. On the one hand you say he can be VT if he draws a RB But if he is VT and he didn't draw a RB you are opening a door to call him scum. | ||
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That's my point. | ||
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On April 15 2014 22:14 OneThousandWords wrote: This is a silly line of reasoning. I think he is town for his claim. I don't think mafia come in at the start of the day and claim a role out of the blue that can be CC'd. The only scenario in which he could turn out to look mafia is indeed if he is VT, if he doesn't get RB'd and a vig shot goes through. I find that scenario to be such an extreme outlier of a risk for mafia to take that it is a silly line of reasoning to go down at this point. Is this still about the fact that you added "needs to be RB in case of mafia" and I disagreed with that. | ||
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On April 15 2014 22:19 OneThousandWords wrote: No, it's about the fact that I think he is town for when he claimed and how he did it and all situations point to it being beneficial for town but then you determine that there is likely a mafia motive behind the play and talk about mafia gambling plays, which I think at this point is crazy. I wasn't doing that at all. I was explaining why I thought you shouldn't add "needs to be RB". | ||
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Any scumreads anybody? | ||
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On April 15 2014 22:25 OneThousandWords wrote: Does Alakaslam always post like that? It's mostly "worse" or shall I say stranger. There is a serious lack of Chupazis, Hijoles and lampshadings currently. | ||
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Djagulingu is ignoring the point OTW brought up. Not being defensive is a townie treat they told me in how-to-hunt-scum-school. Personally I find it interesting but I haven't made conclusion about it yet. What do you think of this chain of events Omni? 1) Djag got scumreads on 2 players 2) OTW questions Djag. 3) Djag calls OTW town. | ||
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The irky feeling was the soft newbie claim? | ||
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The guy has literally 0 scumgames. And you blame him for playing the newbie card on how many scumgames he played. | ||
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On April 16 2014 03:16 OmniEulogy wrote: No, I blame him for playing it period. Also you say it yourself. Somehow you missed it while you were typing it I guess. It has nothing to do with his amount of scum games he's played. Could be one now and it wouldn't stop him from saying he's never played as scum before. You blame him for playing it when it suits him, a big difference. It didn't suit him at all. What is the scum motivation saying he only played 1 game before so he couldn't self meta? And it was super casual. He dropped it because the subject about self meta was in the thread. He didn't gained anything. Anyway, my vote is on the right person. | ||
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On April 16 2014 03:39 kushm4sta wrote: So this is the totality of why you are voting for omniknight? 1) Entering game with the breakfast and then the not understandable novastar business. 2) Not doing anything after game was underway for 5-6 hours and nothing happened. 3) Awkward answers early game. Like how he was not hunting for townies. (the scumslip?) 4) He liked the skanjab vig claim because "scum has to deal with it". I mean seriously? He even thinks it is fake. 5) His first analysis in the game was a townread for which he still had an irky feeling because he played the newbie card when it suited him. (Can I get your/other people their opinion on this?) 6) I am annoying him while I am trying to get this game going. 7) Seems like his latest contribution is a case on that townread he had previously. And me I think. Got to read. | ||
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I am not sure though. | ||
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On April 16 2014 03:57 OmniEulogy wrote: I'm not even tunneling you. If I thought you were scum I'd vote for you. Are you scummy to me? yes. This entire conversation happened because Koshi was asking me questions about you though so the idea that I'm tunneling you because I'm answering Koshi's questions is pretty amusing. It's on page 12 by the way, not even that long ago. So far you've made an association case and then asked everybody else for something you failed to answer yourself because you've only played one game. Oh and blatantly lied about your town meta in that same post and proceeded to answer that accusation from OTW by telling him to read a book... You just don't strike me as doing anything beneficial for any reason for town right now. Koshi seems lost in half his questions/posts. + Show Spoiler + On April 15 2014 18:03 Koshi wrote: Are you scumslipping I am town or am I not reading this propperly? + Show Spoiler + On April 15 2014 21:35 Koshi wrote: No. I don't self meta. I don't know where you read me self metaing. I don't care. It is probably unlikely but there was so much wrong with that post. I want to know why he made it in 24 hours. ^ scumhunting so hard he ignores likely town behavior and calls him scum. I can really feel how much you care about who is scum and who is town Koshi. I think what skanjab did was a bad claim. Kush asked me if I see it as likely town but I refuse to see it as that because it was so bad. I agree with Kush I never saw scum do it. I don't think I have seen town do it tbh. Pretty sure. So it is null for me based on experience. The fact that you say I don' t care about who is scum is pretty silly. I would say you are omgusing me because you are annoyed that I am voting you / asking you questions but you said you are laughing with my questions so I don't think that applies. + Show Spoiler + On April 15 2014 18:07 Koshi wrote: All right then. I prefer to work with PoE. If I can find obvious town I am as happy as when I find possible mafia. especially after that. Ignore signs to go to the much less likely option to call somebody scum. What? Most games it is pretty hard to find scum. So if you can PoE a couple townies that always helps. I don't even know what you are saying here. You say it is bad that I search for some people that are obvious town and remove these from my scumlist? + Show Spoiler + so happy you make your reasons known so you can go after other people. And yeah there's no reason to think anybody is town with their first 4~ posts as the game started. I thank you for your knowledge. Seriously. What? Skanjab says he is THROUGH AND THROUGH TOWN. I say that I don't see a reason to why he is town. You agree with me and disagree with Skanjab just like I did. What is your problem???????? + Show Spoiler + On April 16 2014 03:26 Koshi wrote: You blame him for playing it when it suits him, a big difference. It didn't suit him at all. What is the scum motivation saying he only played 1 game before so he couldn't self meta? And it was super casual. He dropped it because the subject about self meta was in the thread. He didn't gained anything. Anyway, my vote is on the right person. Scum motivation is not having to talk about how they are going to play this very game. Especially after he's already completely off the town play he said he has in that very same post. How do you not get that? I still don't get how OmniEulogy thinks that this was a scumtell from Djag. Can somebody explain this to me? + Show Spoiler + On April 15 2014 23:31 OmniEulogy wrote: unless you are roleplaying as somebody in your book I fail to see how it changes what he said and how this answers none of it =/ My previous mention of it Koshi and OTW's post which Djag completely blows off by telling OTW if he had read the book he'd get it. sorry kush <3 I feel that last point is pretty important though. | ||
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On April 16 2014 04:34 OmniEulogy wrote: Djab is scummy for sure. You I have no strong feelings for to either side. Why are you not voting for him? | ||
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On April 16 2014 05:18 FirmTofu wrote: Hey guys, long time no see. Good to see some familiar faces. FirmTofu. Long time no see. Please be active Firmtofu from like Titanic 1 and those days. | ||
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But don't be scum pls. Or tell me right now. | ||
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Vivax is not going to play this game. | ||
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You people got to generate discussion. Look bad if needed. Make it happen. | ||
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why did you want to police Alakaslam? | ||
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obviously. | ||
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Very meh. | ||
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On April 16 2014 17:43 thrawn2112 wrote: he won a game he shouldn't have on omgus. Am I supposed to understand this? | ||
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But here he is so clueless. How can he know we will see each other as town when he doesn't know we are town? | ||
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On April 16 2014 18:12 thrawn2112 wrote: yeah that's what i'm getting at. the mindset needed to make that post isn't really possible? The first part of sentence can only be made if Kush knows we are both town. But the parenthesis contradicts that. Do you know if RB can block scum NK? | ||
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2 mislynches with fail vig, 3 with successful vig 2 mislynches with fail doc, 3 with successful doc I wonder if doc makes somebody vet. | ||
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On April 16 2014 18:25 thrawn2112 wrote: anyways, what the point of this conversation? are you wanting to lynch kush? I don't really want to lynch mrderg. He was quite unimpressive in Cell. It's a bit 50/50. I haven't read his combination of oneliners post replying to one liners post in which his conclusion was one liners are bad but I don't remember it to be superscummy. I don't know what the point of this discussion is. I also wanted to think that at least one more "active aka vet" player is scum and OO is looking somewhat better than Kush. I didn't like how you posted twice in disbelieve Djag followed your scumread. But overall. I don't know yet. Many unknown things. | ||
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So? | ||
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That's what I see. What you are seeing is: A guy is pretending to be away from thread because he is scum. How do you know you are right? | ||
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The answers he gives are quite reasonable. They don't help us much but it is not the guy got a meta for making super insightful posts. Did you check his meta thrawn? Same counts for Djag tbh. Dnu why he is voting mderg either. | ||
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On April 16 2014 18:40 thrawn2112 wrote: hmm? that's not my point my point is that he argues with a few posts and points out some logical errors or whatever but then he doesn't have any conclusions based on that. and nowhere in his oneliners do I get the sense that he's thinking about alignment. he's only thinking about arguing with random posts. theres' not one single thing in his post that indicates that he's even remotely concerned with people's alignments. that's why i want to lynch him. He has 10 minutes to play the game. You don't believe that? | ||
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More recent filter from Cell Does this change your opinion thrawn? | ||
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There is no reason to lynch him. What the fuck did Omni do that comes close to scumhunting? Omni has posted a shitton more and explain to me where his scumhunting is? | ||
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Did absolutely NOTHING. Went in an argument with me defending the fact that skanjab HAS TO CLAIM RB OR IS MAFIA ON D2 while OTW himself didn't believe the Vig claim. Then he made some halfassed case on Cavalinho which simply isn't enough for a smurf. Even if Cavalinho is suspicious, it doesn't change the fact OTW has done nothing. Just some silly quotes enabling him to fly under radar. | ||
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On April 16 2014 19:20 Skanjab1s wrote: Why are you so against his lynch Koshi? You're throwing out other random names and saying 'hey, lynch this guy instead, dont kill mderg!" when mderg hasn't done anything that I can see that should make you so sure of his towniness. Because you haven't done shit in this game. all of you. And now we are lynching lynchbait He is without doubt the biggest lynchbait in the game. Look at his meta. Look at it. Nothing happened in this game Nothing And we all go. "well shit, better lynch the lynchbait and go afk for another 60 hours" Fuck that shit. | ||
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He can be viggid. But he is not going to be some no info lynch on D1. | ||
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On April 16 2014 19:16 Skanjab1s wrote: ##Vote: mderg Gie me the % that skanjab is scum and how you came to this %. | ||
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Lynching mderg for 1 post and now you already stated you are ok with lynching 3 more guys. Makes it quite clear how certain you are about this lynch. I suggest you go to bed and when you come back lead this fucking lynch because I will be at soccer and sleep after. | ||
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You people just say "no scumhunting at all in this 1 post" --> gg he is scum. Explain to me why scum mderg would do that? Explain to me that the posts he quoted were pushing some agenda? Or that those posts showed some that mderg has extra information? Or show me that mderg is following this game very closely but and is lying about having little time. But atm it looks like some shitty afk lynch. Look Skanjab is doing. Vote and fuck off. | ||
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On April 16 2014 19:37 thrawn2112 wrote: koshi you;re being just as much of a bitch about this as I am. don't complaign that people aren';t pushing lynches enough for your liking when you're not doing it either I am not complaining about people not pushing their lynches. I am complaining about how you, Djag and Skanjab are now voting on a guy for no reason at all. It isn't clear to me. And if I wasn't here asking you questions about OTW, Kush you wouldn't have brought it up and we would lynch mderg. Nobody even knew why you voted for mderg. On April 16 2014 18:40 thrawn2112 wrote: hmm? that's not my point my point is that he argues with a few posts and points out some logical errors or whatever but then he doesn't have any conclusions based on that. and nowhere in his oneliners do I get the sense that he's thinking about alignment. he's only thinking about arguing with random posts. theres' not one single thing in his post that indicates that he's even remotely concerned with people's alignments. that's why i want to lynch him. What is the bolded? He is scummy for giving his opinion on the 3 things actually discussed in the thread? Post count, self meta and the vig claim? On April 16 2014 05:55 mderg wrote: Such a great day! I had more than 10 minutes of free time in total. Awesome. Finding townies is not a bi-product of catching scum. Finding townies is great. If someone is confirmed town, you can trust him. Also he won´t be misslynched which increases the probability of lynching scum. Scum can also be found by process of elimination. wtf? I don´t get how claiming vig so early can help town in any way. Please no. What´s the point of that? If you know your town play, you can fake it. A high-post game is not necessarily good for town. If there´s too many posts, it becomes difficult to filter out important information. I´d like to encourage people to a moderate post count, not spamming, no lurking. If all it takes to look like town is to claim vig, I would do that every game i was scum in. Why do you like his claim? Sure, scum has to deal with it but otherwise scum would have had no idea about any power roles That´s not a very strong argument. Blaming a newbie for saying that he´s a newbie cannot convince me in any way. So difficult going through this. The one liners really hurt my reading comprehension. | ||
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OTW --> Flied under radar while he did nothing except talk defensively about his post about the vigclaim. Nobody said shit. Even you thrawn. I had to bring it up and then you went "ahyeah, I was scumhunting earlier but I cba to put anything about it in the thread, I do find otw scummy" Same with the Kush thing. I have to type "meh, I don't like Kush" and only then you give your opinion. At least you do that. | ||
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On April 16 2014 19:50 Skanjab1s wrote: I took a shower you moron. I can't be at my computer 24/7. Talking about nothing to do with scumhunting, and focusing on unimportant things while still making a huge post to feign contribution is scummy. Thats why a scum mderg would do that. You didn't answer my question at all, by the way, you've just been bitching for no reason. Saying "because all of you have done nothing" isn't a reason to be hard-defending mderg so badly, and stopping any attempts to pressure from happening. Ok fine. ##vote: mderg See you all after flip. I am done with this game for now. | ||
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On April 16 2014 19:52 thrawn2112 wrote: lol. the problem is that scum are being scum and townies are being lazy. is that about right? Scum do scummy things. Both scum and town can be lazy. BOTH BOTH BOTTHHHHHH You people got for mderg as if it is a 100% lynch. Then there is a guy calling me a moron. So fuck you all. | ||
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On April 16 2014 20:49 kushm4sta wrote: hold up guys let me catch up on the game and give my thoughts. This will probably happen some time between 10-12 est. After I do that I should look pretty town. i realize the shit I've said has been pretty retarded but it's not like there was better shit to talk about that early in the game. two alpha towns figthing... what do you say about that.. The bolded indicates that you are already are up to speed. Because you know why people are voting you. The red indicates that you are not up to speed. Promising a case 5 hours from is boring. If you already know why people are voting you you probably have like 3 more pages to read. | ||
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On April 16 2014 21:29 kushm4sta wrote: im not up to speed. all i read was the past few posts in which people quoted what i said and voted for me You posted as last on page 14. Page 17 had quotes about you. You are missing 15 & 16? | ||
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You have read things. Can you bring new things to the table? | ||
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Why have you still said nothing on Kush? | ||
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##vote: OneThousandWords This one or Kush. | ||
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On April 16 2014 23:23 OmniEulogy wrote: his vote on mderg is scummy imo, his accusations considering his entire filter comes down to policy lynching Slam and lynching mderg, and then his conversation with Koshi about Kush where he only votes for kush after you do Skan. It just seems like the only thing he does is try to find a SAFE place to put his vote. I gave thrawn townie points for noticing OTW and Kush scummy points. The gigantic problem is that he didn't bring it to the thread till I asked. But I think he is trying to solve the game, just not trying to help the thread. Or he is playing scum pretty well. Omni, if Kush and thrawn are your biggest scumreads. Why are you voting thrawn who started the wagon on Kush? Is he bussing or is Kush town? | ||
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Will you give the answer before the end of N1 skanjab? | ||
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On April 16 2014 23:35 OmniEulogy wrote: the problem I'm having right now Koshi is that between Kush, Cavalinho, Slam, FirmTofu, and even still mderg I have no reason to think that any of them are town. I'm also undecided about OTW and OO but they give me a better feeling than the others. given that I'd rather vote for Thrawn even if he is voting on Kush because to me Kush blends in more with the others making me doubt if we'll really lynch scum if we lynch him. All the following posts are thrawn scumhunting. Most of the time with fresh ideas. I think the sum of these posts is more than what others did. There are a couple posts that I also find extemely townie. Small things. For example how he knows when OTW is online and that he was waiting to talk with him. Something like that looks very townie to me. On April 16 2014 16:20 thrawn2112 wrote: No. He made a huge post that doesn't contribute anything. He didn't say a single thing that is relevant to the lynch. It's even worse than no scumreads, there are no reads of any kind. He argued his points without giving any indication that he was forming reads based off of the things he was arguing against. On April 16 2014 16:26 thrawn2112 wrote: That's part of it. But my main point is that there's no indication in that huge post that he's trying to solve the game. He quoted a bunch of stuff and said some decently reasonable things that don't have anything to do with his thoughts on alignments. On April 16 2014 17:43 thrawn2112 wrote: Why are you dropping omni from your lynch list? On April 16 2014 17:53 thrawn2112 wrote: same for me. becasue of this post On April 16 2014 18:03 thrawn2112 wrote: to clarify the part in parenthsis makes the post..... impossible? if you take out that qualification at the end then the post reads as kush saying that both of "you" are town and that you should realize it and stfu. but the the stuff in parenthesis means that he doesn't know if "you" are town... so if he doesn't know if the two players are town then why is he telling them that they should realize that they are havnig a town vs town argument? On April 16 2014 18:40 thrawn2112 wrote: hmm? that's not my point my point is that he argues with a few posts and points out some logical errors or whatever but then he doesn't have any conclusions based on that. and nowhere in his oneliners do I get the sense that he's thinking about alignment. he's only thinking about arguing with random posts. theres' not one single thing in his post that indicates that he's even remotely concerned with people's alignments. that's why i want to lynch him. On April 16 2014 19:26 thrawn2112 wrote: 100words is probably my 2nd lynch choice. i almost voted for him instead of that other guy. what stood out to me is how his main talking point was skan's claim and how pointless it was to talk about the claim yet he did nothing but talk about the claim koshi i'll fully read and respond to that meta when i wake up. too tired/tipsy for that right now. but i did skim one of the links and I notice that he likes to argue about stuff without thinking about alignments. so my preliminary answer to you question is yes, the meta does sorta make me uncertain about lnyching him. On April 16 2014 19:29 thrawn2112 wrote: koshi do you want to go after bigger game? i'm pretty willing to lynch kush. i don't know about oe yet. i see why his posts are bad but i'm still not convinced he's scum. i want to talk to him first and i was hoping he'd show up in these last few hours (cuz he came on about the same time 24 hours ago) but he hasn't. so idk what to think of him just yet. On April 16 2014 19:49 thrawn2112 wrote: well I do sorta recognize that it's a shitty afk lynch. that's why I'm not pushing it so hard lol. a few hours ago i read the thread, decided that mdgerg was scummy, OE is a bit scummy too and that he needed to be my first priority. I noticed that he started posted a little less than 24 hours ago so I thought i'd hang out in the thread and try to talk to him when he shows up. but he hasn't. reading his filter over and over doesn't do anything for me so I can't really progress that read. you ask what's mderg's agenda. isn't the fact that he has no agenda pretty scummy? my whole point is that he has no agenda, that he's literally not trying to find mafia. he's make NO EFFORTS to find mafia, he doesn't even seem interested in that part of the game. idc about him lying or not, his 10 min statement doesn't tell me anything other than that he feels like he needs to apoligze for his lack of contributions. so I'm wanting to look into OE but i';m conflicted about that, so I want to talk to him first. but he won't oblige me i'm semi interested in lynching kush and i tried to talk to you about that but you half-agreed with me then decided the conversation was useless. so i don't know what you expect from me, considering all of the above | ||
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OTW says skanjab can be mafia while at the same time OTW believes skanjab is vig. I would lynch him for that alone. | ||
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On April 17 2014 00:35 kushm4sta wrote: he believes but still acknowledges the possibility that skan is scum Then you dont believe the claim. Are you dense? "I believe that you claimed vig. But you could also be scum" How??? | ||
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But the point I make is that OTW says that skanjab needs to claim rb or is scum. Why is that??????? | ||
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1 more time. OTW pushed a idea in the thread that skanjab is scum for x. While x was a false reason. I corrected otw and said x was a bad reason. OTW doesnt agree. That also summed up otw filter. | ||
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On April 15 2014 21:54 OneThousandWords wrote: There's 3 possible scenario's here (although only if RB's are notified which OP doesn't mention AFAIK): 1) He is VT claiming a role and in which case he draws a RB and real roles can get on. 2) He is vig and draws a RB for better roles that give information. 3) He is mafia and has to claim being RB which enables all town roles to do their stuff. DO YOU SEE THE RED PART? THAT PART IS BULLSHIT. Here OTW puts the idea in thread that it is impossible for Skan that he needs to be RB because he claimed. HOWEVER, OTW doesn't believe that Skan is vig. THE FACT THAT HE DOESN'T believe he is VIG is because he says skan can be VT, Vig or scum. Why can't scum believe that skanjab is not a vig? This is correct ↓ On April 15 2014 21:54 OneThousandWords wrote: There's 3 possible scenario's here (although only if RB's are notified which OP doesn't mention AFAIK): 1) He is VT claiming a role and in which case he could draws a RB and real roles can get on. 2) He is vig and draws a RB for better roles that give information. 3) He is mafia. Something I said from the fucking start and I don't know why we are still discussing this. OTW should just agree with me because I am right and he is wrong and start doing some useful things. | ||
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On April 17 2014 01:16 kushm4sta wrote: That is not "pushing" an idea on the thread. That is laying out three possibilities. You are overreacting hugely koshi. Roles kush can have this game: 1) mafia goon 2) mafia gf 3) mafia rb | ||
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If you can't not all options are listed by OTW. | ||
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On April 17 2014 01:30 kushm4sta wrote: So OTW said something incorrect regarding mechanics. How does that make him scummy? OTW said something incorrect. The only point I want to make. | ||
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Then he came back and still was harping on the fact he didn't make a mistake while he did. Changing his story to the fact that he never said he couldn't see the vig claim being true. Which is bullshit. That wasn't the point. I actually forgot the rest he wrote. But I voted before he came back. | ||
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On April 17 2014 01:50 OmniEulogy wrote: I think your case for why thrawn is town might be correct but it still doesn't change my mind on how I view a Kush lynch over the other lurkers, both of which I would rather avoid because I feel like it's just lynching on person from a group and hoping you picked the right one. I realize you probably meant OTW but I realized I hadn't made any mention that I had read it either. lol Well. I think Kush is the scummiest out of the group. | ||
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On April 16 2014 20:49 kushm4sta wrote: hold up guys let me catch up on the game and give my thoughts. This will probably happen some time between 10-12 est. After I do that I should look pretty town. Why the bolded. You had 2 pages you didn't read. | ||
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On April 17 2014 02:31 kushm4sta wrote: I had way more than that. You didn't. dnu why you have to lie about this. What was it then? 3,4,5 ? It wasn't 6 Kush. | ||
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On April 17 2014 02:38 kushm4sta wrote: just because i posted on 14 doesn't mean i read everything up to 14. ... This is a blatant lie. Doesn't matter if he corrects himself 2 minutes later. You just don't blatantly lie like this and don't get lynched. Lynch Kush. | ||
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On April 17 2014 03:21 kushm4sta wrote: wats up koshi? your scumteam just get shit on? the fact you think I am scum says enough. | ||
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Something with saying Kush is the towniest out of a certain group while saying everything Kush does is scummy and the rest of the group is null. | ||
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On April 17 2014 03:46 kushm4sta wrote: i don't know if you are scum. I haven;t played with town koshi in a while, and I don't know about what effect the arrogance brought on by being right a few times will have on you. Koshi, if you are town know this. In forum mafia your biggest enemy is your own arrogance. It will make you suck. I am lynching the best bet on scum. | ||
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On April 17 2014 03:46 Koshi wrote: omni and kush. Those 2 I want to lynch. I am going to soccer and will come back and make a case on why I would see Omni as second lynch. Something with saying Kush is the towniest out of a certain group while saying everything Kush does is scummy and the rest of the group is null. Cavalinho/alakaslam/OTW and all others we don't know jack shit about can be vigged/copped. | ||
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On April 17 2014 04:00 OneThousandWords wrote: Koshi, I don't understand what you are doing right now. You keep pointing out something about my post on Skan early in the game and saying how I didn't believe his claim. That is clearly not the case as many people have already answered for me. It's right at the start of my filter too, there's more to it than that! You still keep raising the same point over and over again and calling me scum and when finally people point out that you are wrong you backtrack without explicitly saying you read it wrong and then say "yeh I just thought I'd point out how wrong he was". What are your intentions behind that? The way it comes across is an attempt at slander to paint me in a negative light. ... w.e If you don't understand it now you never will. Consider the subject completely dropped. | ||
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On April 17 2014 04:39 Vivax wrote: Current status of reads. Reasoning pending, but ask me about a specific one if you want me to explain it first: Townies: Koshi, Djagu, Cava, thrawn, (~Kush fwiw) Today's lynch candidates (by PoE and cause there is some stuff I don't like): FT, Omni, OTW, OO, mderg Also HI GUYS =D . Rejoice that you got me and not that crazy grush fac-simile I am looking at those 5 possible scummers and I can't say you are completely crazy so I am going to believe you. Alakaslam hopefully didn't replace out as scum again... Are you planning on pushing a target today? Why is Kush not scum? I don't see it. Kush is scummy as scum btw. | ||
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On April 17 2014 07:02 Vivax wrote: I just played against Kush as scum, I'm kinda confident I found out about how he plays scum. Specifically, the way he pushes his reads. He tends to attach onto cases on townies, add some of his own points and show extraordinary confidence about his fake reads while doing very little besides that, I didn't see that pattern yet in this game. A meta read. What about his current play? What if it wasn't Kush? How come so many people read Kush as town this game. I think I saw 4 people beside you call him town. It's simply too many. | ||
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The deadline is big suckass but Europe is going to bed and would be niec to have 4 votes on somebody. Omni guy looks like a fine lynch to me. FT I guess maybe but not the biggest fan. Kush still looks sweet to me but I guess that train passed? w.e If you feel extremely strong about OO I guess I could lynch him. OTW can just die. I don't really care. so yeah. Every lynch is fine. | ||
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On April 17 2014 07:17 Vivax wrote: Koshi, if you think Kush is scum give me a bunch of convincing reasons please. Looking through your filter I find it hard to find something that conclusively deduces from his posts that he's scum. Please, just your current townreads besides the one on the vigi claim. I don't want a shitfight you're attempting to start. No I am too tired. If your first impression is town I follow it. These are interesting maybe: On April 17 2014 02:38 kushm4sta wrote: just because i posted on 14 doesn't mean i read everything up to 14. This was a lie. 100% untrue. On April 16 2014 04:48 kushm4sta wrote: T-5 hours until you both realize each other are town (regardless of if you are or not) Doesn't make sense. I just don't like Kush his early play. He did nothing. Don't know if it is scummy. It wasn't towny. And then he lies and makes dumb posts. ... ____ Anyway, who do we vote for? | ||
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On April 16 2014 23:35 OmniEulogy wrote: the problem I'm having right now Koshi is that between Kush, Cavalinho, Slam, FirmTofu, and even still mderg I have no reason to think that any of them are town. I'm also undecided about OTW and OO but they give me a better feeling than the others. given that I'd rather vote for Thrawn even if he is voting on Kush because to me Kush blends in more with the others making me doubt if we'll really lynch scum if we lynch him. This post. Interesting? | ||
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On April 16 2014 03:57 OmniEulogy wrote: I'm not even tunneling you. If I thought you were scum I'd vote for you. Are you scummy to me? yes. This entire conversation happened because Koshi was asking me questions about you though so the idea that I'm tunneling you because I'm answering Koshi's questions is pretty amusing. It's on page 12 by the way, not even that long ago. So far you've made an association case and then asked everybody else for something you failed to answer yourself because you've only played one game. Oh and blatantly lied about your town meta in that same post and proceeded to answer that accusation from OTW by telling him to read a book... You just don't strike me as doing anything beneficial for any reason for town right now. Koshi seems lost in half his questions/posts. + Show Spoiler + On April 15 2014 18:03 Koshi wrote: Are you scumslipping I am town or am I not reading this propperly? + Show Spoiler + On April 15 2014 21:35 Koshi wrote: No. I don't self meta. I don't know where you read me self metaing. I don't care. It is probably unlikely but there was so much wrong with that post. I want to know why he made it in 24 hours. ^ scumhunting so hard he ignores likely town behavior and calls him scum. I can really feel how much you care about who is scum and who is town Koshi. + Show Spoiler + On April 15 2014 18:07 Koshi wrote: All right then. I prefer to work with PoE. If I can find obvious town I am as happy as when I find possible mafia. especially after that. Ignore signs to go to the much less likely option to call somebody scum. + Show Spoiler + so happy you make your reasons known so you can go after other people. And yeah there's no reason to think anybody is town with their first 4~ posts as the game started. I thank you for your knowledge. + Show Spoiler + On April 16 2014 03:26 Koshi wrote: You blame him for playing it when it suits him, a big difference. It didn't suit him at all. What is the scum motivation saying he only played 1 game before so he couldn't self meta? And it was super casual. He dropped it because the subject about self meta was in the thread. He didn't gained anything. Anyway, my vote is on the right person. Scum motivation is not having to talk about how they are going to play this very game. Especially after he's already completely off the town play he said he has in that very same post. How do you not get that? + Show Spoiler + On April 15 2014 23:31 OmniEulogy wrote: unless you are roleplaying as somebody in your book I fail to see how it changes what he said and how this answers none of it =/ My previous mention of it Koshi and OTW's post which Djag completely blows off by telling OTW if he had read the book he'd get it. sorry kush <3 I feel that last point is pretty important though. Vivax. Your opinion on this post? | ||
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I didn't comment on the thrawn post because I got thrawn as town but I was ok with your case. I don't agree that thrawn is scum but there is nothing wrong with your case. So I don't post anything. What do you want me to say? It is obvious I don't agree with you on thrawn. Anyway. You shouldn't be on chopping block today as well I guess. As you are contributing. I am voting Omni. | ||
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On April 17 2014 08:00 OneThousandWords wrote: Can you write a quick summary of why because I thought he looked towny. On April 16 2014 04:03 Koshi wrote: 1) Entering game with the breakfast and then the not understandable novastar business. 2) Not doing anything after game was underway for 5-6 hours and nothing happened. 3) Awkward answers early game. Like how he was not hunting for townies. (the scumslip?) 4) He liked the skanjab vig claim because "scum has to deal with it". I mean seriously? He even thinks it is fake. 5) His first analysis in the game was a townread for which he still had an irky feeling because he played the newbie card when it suited him. (Can I get your/other people their opinion on this?) 6) I am annoying him while I am trying to get this game going. 7) Seems like his latest contribution is a case on that townread he had previously. And me I think. Got to read. I don't know how valid those points are but I go with early game feeling. It's basically that. After that case on djag/me he went softly after thrawn but that quickly went away. I don't know. Like I don't know. I don't have a good scumread anymore. | ||
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On April 17 2014 08:01 Vivax wrote: Wait a moment Koshi. Two quick things before you put your weight on the lynch and going to bed. 1. How do you conclusively gain from those posts that OE must be scum before confronting him with it? Frankly I would want to hear that first. 2. OTW just called you scummy for ignoring his counter-case on your scumread. What was the reason for that and do you think that's a valid reason for calling you scum? 1. He isn't here. What do you want me to do? Not vote him because he isn't here? I am the first vote on him anyway. 2. I already gave the reason for it. I made a recent post that thrawn is town. He makes a post that thrawn is scum. I remember looking at that post and going w.evs. I didn't see something wrong with the case, it didn't feel wrong, but it also didn't convince me to revisit my thrawn read. OTW and me had some turbulence this game. I also do not know how he plays mafia in general, he maybe doesn't know how we play mafia here. If this is a first game I would be surprised if he is scum. Pretty ballsy, clear, I don't have scummy feelings on his posts. The reason he and I were clinching a couple times is because that 1 post he made about Skanjab 100% getting the RB. I probably made too big of a deal out of it and didn't explain myself properly the first time what it was really about and it grew into something it else. Like w.evs. Like even though I am quite active. I do not have a good scumread atm. Like... Everybody can still be scum it feels like. But my feelings do have a decent order in which I would lynch personally. atm Omni is pretty high on that list. Probably the highest. Like I could go OO or FT or maybe somebody else but I feel like due to early game I feel better if Omni is out of the game. | ||
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If there is somebody who doesnt know what to do. Trow me a list of 3 vig targets 3 doc 3 cop with reasoning. | ||
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Vivax is 90% town. That part about Carvalinho getting modkilled is really really bad. 50% town because of care level. The rest is because he is figuring things out. Djagulingu 80% town. I just like him. Omni 65% town. He cared a shitton about the lynch. I liked all his post going towards the lynch. It was simply really good. I need explanations for these 2 things though. Are you some sort of pessimist or something? On April 17 2014 12:58 OmniEulogy wrote: I liked that story and now it's gonna be ruined forever. Why do you make both these posts?↑↓ On April 17 2014 13:01 OmniEulogy wrote: it's cute how you continue to look down on people and be hypocritical ![]() mderg Gutread town. Skanjab1s Fuck I hope you are the vig and you can wifom the scum RB. Cavalinho is scum for this. 5 minutes before the flip he makes a comment about me, why is he already starting searching 5 mins before the lynch after new scummy people? Everybody (who is town) waits till after lynch and then bask in glory or are upset. Cav starts making plans in case FT flips town while his vote is on FT...... A normal attitude is to see who gets the most cred after a scumflip (because it is his scumread), not looking who gets "blamed" if he turns green. Then his shit about Vivax so incredible town for not voting him but on the other hand his analisys of the lynch is that it is between 2 townies so scum can do w.e the fuck they wanted. That doesn't add up at all. Vivax is town but not for that. I agree with Kush that the post Cavalinho made after the lynch about being between 2 townies not too hard is to make. On April 17 2014 12:55 Cavalinho wrote: I'm really weirded out by Koshi voting for OE, because he very obviously isn't going to get lynched. Same goes for OO and Skanjab. If FT gets lynched and flips town, I think we should start questioning everyone else that isn't coalescing on him. I thought that this lynch was pretty polarized up until thrawn and OE flipped their votes. Anyone else agree? OneThousandWords Scum for looking for the FT lynch during the day and fucking off as soon as he safely could put his vote on FT. ObviousOne PoE scum. Plays like scum. My eyebrows went frownie when he is talking about me and his jabbering about the difference between my themed game play and my normal play. Also he didn't vote. Also town saved carvalinho. | ||
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The cop claims. The doc claims and his target. The vig claims. All the RB claim. No fucking lies. MAKE THIS HAPPEN. Everything is | ||
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On April 17 2014 19:34 thrawn2112 wrote: @ koshi kush is town too right? ahyeah he is 60% town. I forgot about him. | ||
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On April 17 2014 19:34 Koshi wrote: Tomorrow. Everybody fucking claims. The cop claims. The doc claims and his target. The vig claims. All the RB claim. No fucking lies. MAKE THIS HAPPEN. Everything is Everything is one shot. btw, the RB people claim first. | ||
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Then the vig (even if not yet shot) Then the doc (his target should be RB) Then the cop I would like it if doc / cop use actions tonight. I would advice that strongly. | ||
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On April 17 2014 19:37 thrawn2112 wrote: i hope nobody claims. i'm useless at setup speculation and claims just make me hesitant about all my reads Dude, for example if there are 2 RBs you can bet there is a doc and a scum rb. That means that the doc needs to be cc by scum or free townie. There are very likely equal town powerroles vs equal scum power roles in this set-up. There are very likely not 2 of the same. Unless there are only 2 powerroles. Because this is a normal mini set-up. Day 2 claims need to happen. It will give shitton of information. I promise. Make it happen. | ||
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I just was rereading Djagulingu his filter and I start panicking because the first page was so scummy and not what I remembered at all. Then I saw it was cavalinho his filter. crisis averted. | ||
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Can you explain this one? Still do? | ||
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HOLY FUCKING BALLS. HE IS SO FROM TL AS WELL. less certain. Still monies on HF. 1) Makes case on cav who is scum 2) agrees with kush case on cav. but x,y,z who are bullshit makes him town for some reason noboby knows, then adds some extra reasons to why cav is scum. 3) has a townread on cav out of nowhere 4) retracts townread on cav. LYNCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH | ||
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Those 2 die. Make sure cop checks OO/Kush or somebody else you think is likely to be scum but unlikely to be lynched soon. | ||
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On April 17 2014 19:54 Koshi wrote: btw. Scum kp can not be RB. kinda unfair cuz our kp can be rb ![]() | ||
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On April 17 2014 20:51 kushm4sta wrote: Kochi this is your meta now? You turned into rayn without the experience or work ethic to back it up. I don't even know what you are talking about. But this is how I am playing. Obviously. | ||
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On April 17 2014 21:27 kushm4sta wrote: koshi if you admit your reads are probably terrible why are you acting so sure about them Who knows. | ||
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Sure there is. The part where you look like you want to lynch Cavalinho unless FT fucks off and you vote FT anyway. What happened there? | ||
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On April 17 2014 23:23 thrawn2112 wrote: ft fucked off. he told us it was ok for us to lynch him him to avoid a no lynch and then stopped trying to save himself. oh ok. yeah that would do it. Let me check. | ||
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On April 17 2014 12:35 FirmTofu wrote: If I get lynched, I'm confident town will find its way. I'm just gonna wait for the flip now. On April 17 2014 12:39 FirmTofu wrote: Well, right now I think that Cavalinho is the only other possible lynch today. I think he is still a good target mostly because of his meta and partly because of Kush's case. I think voting me to break the tie would be better for us than no lynch at all. On April 17 2014 12:42 FirmTofu wrote: Yeah, I think he'll flip scum. I think his recent posts are typical of desperation mafia plays. | ||
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On April 17 2014 23:28 thrawn2112 wrote: you think those post are indicative of a townie who is about to get mislynched? you weren't there, the situation was really tense because the votes were tied at 4 each and a tie means a no lynch. and i'm screaming at both of them trying to get them to say something useful. and all he can think to say is stuff like "I think voting me to break the tie would be better for us than no lynch at all." Yeah I agree. I can't put myself in that situation at all. I also hate martyrs. But you know that they are town a lot. FT didn't fuck at all btw. He kept giving reads. That's soooooooo fucking townie. On April 17 2014 12:44 FirmTofu wrote: I'm more interested in Vivax rushing to a last minute defense of Cava. On April 17 2014 12:47 FirmTofu wrote: Meh, Vivax's defense seems too organic. It feels like a very risky play for mafia to make. I don't think he's scum. Cavalinho, on the other hand, probably is. On April 17 2014 12:48 FirmTofu wrote: Peace out guys, follow Kush to victory, he knows what he's doing. On April 17 2014 12:54 FirmTofu wrote: Addressing Vivax's points and defending myself is completely useless for town at this point. If people think vivax is on the right track, I can't change their minds in 10 minutes. My best course of action is to give town all the assistance I can so they can play well going forward. On April 17 2014 12:59 FirmTofu wrote: Just a few reads before I die: Town Kush, Koshi, thrawn, skanjab? Scummy OO, OTW, mderg, Omni(although recently he looks better) Everyone else is nullish. I haven't looked much into Dja so... he could be scum too. Scummers are empty active to remove a lynch from them. Townies give reads. | ||
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On April 17 2014 23:35 thrawn2112 wrote: then why dont you fucking show up next time? ![]() | ||
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Shouldn't be lynched/shot/copped imho. That OO guy, he is sneaky. | ||
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On April 17 2014 23:40 thrawn2112 wrote: koshi why are you indulging this stupidity if you think i'm 100% town? It's fun and they are pretty set on the fact you are scum. It's hurting nobody except maybe your ego. It's even helping town because they are really really set on it. Do you see something wrong with how they push you as scum? Do they do it all scummylike? | ||
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On April 18 2014 02:16 OneThousandWords wrote: It's ok Thrawn, I think everything will resolve itself tomorrow ![]() Also, what has ObviousOne done all game? He has only pushed mderg AFAIK and that is the person who was attacking the claimed vig. I made the assumption that no sane scum would do that, so why has ObviousOne made the opposite conclusion and why is that pretty much his only contribution? He practically refrains from being a part of the Cav/Tofu lynch. Captain obvious. | ||
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On April 18 2014 03:16 OneThousandWords wrote: Has ObviousOne received some sort of captaincy? I was unaware. Koshi, I know you posted a list of people you scum read earlier but subsequently it gives me the benefit of seeing that you are wrong on me. I pretty much agree with what you wrote about the other two though, so, replacing me who is your third? I'd wholeheartedly suggest thrawn but you seem to have a town read on him. I think it is going to be mderg. | ||
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![]() But you guys got the townread on Kush. | ||
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On April 18 2014 05:31 kushm4sta wrote: that was sarcasm btw @koshi what happened to the koshi who was amazing at reading me and always knew when i was scum? You changed. Blame yourself. | ||
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On April 18 2014 06:34 ObviousOne wrote: Last thought before I go lose everything in my gut, anyone who wants to see thrawn shot tonight should be shot. Are you saying both you and thrawn are scum? wow. The rumors are true. | ||
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ObviousOne Skanjab1s mderg OmniEulogy OneThousandWords Djagulingu Kush Vivax thrawn I would lynch in this order I guess. The guys on the bottom should die though. The guys on top are hopefully blues or confirmed by blues. Koshi out! | ||
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![]() Also why am I scum for those 2 deaths? | ||
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I have no problem to be in that list but it is dumb. | ||
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On April 18 2014 16:03 thrawn2112 wrote: koshi why dio you keep pretending like you're unsuer about your read on me? Meh. Dnu. I am never 100% town on anybody unless they lynch scummers or shoot people apperantly. Paranoia always kicks in. But you also think I could be scum. Nobody else just entertains the idea except Kush and you agreed. So in the end. Paranoia gets us both. I.got many pages filter bro. I.shouldnt.be scum by default. It doesnt matter yet. If oo or whoever we lynch next flips town we will be very sad. | ||
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On April 18 2014 16:29 thrawn2112 wrote: is there anything for the two of us to talk about? I doubt it. Maybe figure.out a way so game does not bleed dead and becomes lynch the list of candidates. 48h to check out this OO meta and read djag filter. Atm on phone so will do it later. | ||
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On April 18 2014 16:32 thrawn2112 wrote: scum should have shot kush imo It's kinda strange they did not shoot in the 4 of us. Dnu what to make of it. | ||
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Also somewhere in start I accidently said I was vig. If you read closely. I will quote it later. Maybe in razy universe I got 2 rb. | ||
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On April 18 2014 18:29 thrawn2112 wrote: see koshi, this is why i hvae doubts about you. because every now and then you say or do something that mkes no fuckign sense... like calling me 100% town and then immediately indulging djag's stupidity and giving him more ammunition to use against me. then you say that it's probably a good thing that people are suspicious of the guy you think is 100% town. Hey I trusted townie his read could be right. OTW said same. Shizzle is possible. There are these things you know... like otw saying I am scum for ignoring his case on you. Shit like that smells like busscases. Small things. But I am very town on you. | ||
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On April 18 2014 18:31 thrawn2112 wrote: do you care who gets lynched? it doesn't sound like it from this post Rofl. Many hours to go. | ||
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On April 18 2014 18:36 thrawn2112 wrote: koshi are you saying you think skan is town? or just that you don't like my arguments. and if it's the latter then what is your read on him I just corrected 2 things in that post. Offensive rb and rb being used on scum. | ||
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On April 18 2014 18:40 kushm4sta wrote: 1 oo 2 mderg 3 OTW something like that Yes. I was very wrong this game. Early game I was on omni ass, OTW ass and Kush ass and I pushed mderg town. Those 3 didnt help me at all to change my views. Very possible. Add skan and then you have the 1 misslynch in the group. Vivax kush trawn.... just very likely town. Vivax needs to come back though. He wants to become hard try as scum. Maybe he was d1 lynch | ||
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On April 17 2014 21:18 Djagulingu wrote: And if our doc tries to protect our DT and our DT tries to get a check, he gets RB'd too. This. This was a fucking blue claim. He didn't say he was going to protect the vig. He said DT. And asked me if I was DT. Now. If scummers saw this I can sleep peacefully. Otherwise. I don't understand why Djag died. The only thing he wanted was cav lynched. (and thrawn shot, but not lynched) | ||
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Like, thrawn seriously, you see this shit right? He wants 2 townies dead and he gets shot over more "confirmed" townies like Vivax, Koshi, Kush. I mean. Why was I not shot? | ||
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Like... What is the best nk when thrawn is town??? | ||
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First let me look for that Quote in which I maybe said I was vig. I remember it. | ||
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On April 15 2014 22:03 Koshi wrote: Simply because you are also not yet sure if he is the real vigi y/n. You believe he is VT, then mafia can think he is VT. Then mafia can not RB him. The question is if this lie will be valuable for town in the end. Most of time lies end up bad. Because look how you are thinking. On the one hand you say he can be VT if he draws a RB But if he is VT and he didn't draw a RB you are opening a door to call him scum. Here I say I only see it as a lie. It's kinda thin. But yeah......... I also found this: On April 15 2014 21:26 Koshi wrote: Exactly. I am going to be very upset if this is a game in which I have to drag every piece of information out of you. You can clearly see I am considering Omni as scum, you say he is towniest town that towned and don't give a single reason. Who is at fault here? I am trying to scumhunt here. You are trying your best to be obstructive. Not pressuring Omni at all, calling everybody who thinks there is a slight possibility he is scum bad (as you don't think there is a reason to share your 100% townread on omni) and you are wasting our time. So. Can you give all your reads so far this game and give me an explanation for those reads? I want to go forward. Just quoting this so we can lynch Skanjab. With his dumb townread on Omni. | ||
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On April 18 2014 19:56 mderg wrote: interesting night actions. I thought skan was scum before the night and now I´m even more sure about that. Why? | ||
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I need Sgt. Vivax on that shit. Constable Koshi awaits. | ||
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You better be town bro. | ||
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Most anti town player. | ||
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On April 19 2014 00:18 kushm4sta wrote: koshi like i said.. arrogance got to you. dat power rank. mderg are you following this OO bullshit? What thinks you of it? rofl has nothing to do with it. Nothing was happening this game so I did stuff. | ||
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On April 19 2014 06:27 Vivax wrote: I don't think mderg is scum, you wanted to get at something connection-y? No I wonder if you think that conversation can be done scum/scum. At that time in the game. 50% of both their filter. | ||
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I guess we should look at OO meta and see if he does this afk thing a lot. | ||
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On April 20 2014 09:04 Vivax wrote: Koshi since you asked me earlier about that precise conversation, can you elaborate what it was you were seeing? Nothing. That's why I needed your mad skillz. | ||
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On April 20 2014 09:03 Vivax wrote: That last post by OO just screams scum and I'm actually starting to think I could have been wrong on mderg. Huge post and fucking off is what I would expect from a scum giving up and since then we didn't hear anything from our german fellow. Given the current time in EU i doubt he will drop a post before the deadline. Mderg's inactivity IS scummy if OO is indeed scum which at this point is very likely. In this scenario a demoralized scum team is what we're expecting today, a scum team only doing half-assed efforts to win the game, and that also brings me to Skanja dropping a post claiming he has no time. If we analyze Skanja's fakeclaim and the subsequent reactions, imagining that his team disapproved, we can also imagine how they were angry at him and lost motivation to play the game. This would also explain the early attack from mderg on skanja when everybody was just treating that claim as unimportant. If mderg HAD the extra information, and saw skanja dicking around and playing risky, then that would explain the overall low activity, especially now that it matters, and his desire for that extensive early attack on Skanja. Most of this is connection based for the moment but we shouldn't just lean back and lynch OO without planning the next steps. That is so hard try. Don't like it. | ||
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That's so sad. so fucking sad. | ||
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All of us has some kind of list. Kush gave his list and Vivax his response was "Why am I 4th place on this list" Then a bit later Vivax says Kush is scum. That means that Vivax has at least another problem with Kush his list. Or is uncertain about somebody. But he only talked about himself after Kush gave his list. Anyway. Vivax scum. | ||
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On April 20 2014 18:30 Vivax wrote: Also you got to explain to me how you put skanja last in your list, AFTER ME. That doesn't make any fucking sense. He's a guy who fakeclaimed and doesn't play the game, whereas I'm town and playing like town like the majority already realized. How is this Vivax level of comprehension? Skanjab & Vivax last 2 scums. Tomorrow lynch Vivax. | ||
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So Evul You just killed Kush. | ||
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That's kinda it. 2 scum left and I am scum because: "Vivax was also one of Koshi's top town reads and suddenly when it looks like scummy people like mderg or skanjab1s are getting lynched he switches to vivax being scum and tomorrow's lynch even though vivax was only one doing effort things in quiet period." | ||
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Literally everybody. | ||
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Vivax as you know Kush in start Yourself. OO Omni Just everybody. And now you pick some targets out of that and call me scum cause I called x scum when y,z were getting heat. Or you paint it scummy that I made a deal out of the fact I said something you did was incorrect but didn't call it scummy. dafuq is up wit that? What you said was wrong and I called it scummy a shitton of times. Now you say I called it only incorrect and not scummy. | ||
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You are not getting me lynched. | ||
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Vivax dies. Then we see what happens in lylo. My advice to town. | ||
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On April 21 2014 06:21 OmniEulogy wrote: you could be making a connection with mderg and Koshi if you assume mderg is scum. is how I understood that.. yup. Hard defense d1 and all. | ||
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On April 21 2014 04:56 Koshi wrote: Vivax dies. Then we see what happens in lylo. My advice to town. | ||
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On April 21 2014 10:46 OneThousandWords wrote: Well I've never rolled scum in all 2 of the forum mafia games I've played so that's a start! Can someone explain the vivax lynch because he looks really towny from his filter and koshi brought up that he was scum based on one really small point and seems to be super certain of it all of a sudden. I still don't understand because he never elaborated. Vivax is a pretty good player, so I expect that he knows who is scum by now. Or at least has a couple names. Just like yourself, you think it is Mderg/Koshi/Skanjab. But Vivax in response of Kush made it quite obvious he didn't have a clue who to push. That's extremely scummy because as scum you don't have a "scumhunting storyline" or you don't really feel who you got to push because you are playing reactionary to the thread. So when Kush had Vivax as 4th scum. Vivax made a problem of this. This means that Vivax doesn't think that the scummers were with the first 3. But a couple minutes later Vivax even claimed he had Kush as scum. So that's 4 scummers right there. So who the fuck does Vivax think is scum? Vivax doesn't know who is scum. Vivax is scum. | ||
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Vivax went all omg Kush you should totally lynch Skanjab before me. Skanjab only lies about his claims and is afk. While I only do townie things and I am town. While you are at it. Please claim scum because I think you are scum. | ||
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Vivax was upset with Kush because Kush read Vivax as scum over Skanjab while Vivax finds that's unfair because he tried harder to play good mafia. | ||
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On April 21 2014 11:22 OneThousandWords wrote: Ok this makes sense. Unfortunately for you, I'm still not mafia. What? I haven't said you are mafia in ages. | ||
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On April 19 2014 07:35 Vivax wrote: It's possible. I didn't really doubt the vig claim cause I figured it would get sorted out at a later point, but if your scumbuddy knows you're fakeclaiming you might feel like putting in an early attack on the claimer for a later gain, however I'm currently comfortable believing that mderg is town. If you look at the quotes from OO you will notice that he called mderg scummy for wanting to lynch skanja at that point, mderg obliged and switched, OO didn't take that into account later and kept his vote on him, didn't deliver an own interpretation of that which is what I want him to do now and is one of the things I wanted you to notice. Also, that's the only reason he voted for mderg. Additionally, if you look at the first post you will notice how it's wall-of-text-like with very little information, I mentioned that earlier in D1. We should lynch Skanja or OO today and they both should be starting to contribute if they don't want that to happen. Still got questions open for you. Additionally, I have a question for OE: Are you the vigilante? Cause earlier you said that Skanja's claim was likely fake. Damned. Is Vivax just bussing 100% | ||
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On April 17 2014 06:20 Vivax wrote: @ OO PoE AND posts like this: Let's split this into three text blocks. First block is a huge answer about Kaslam. That's ok, that's not my beef, kush asked you a question. The second block is defensive in my opinion. What is your intention here since according to kush you townread thrawn? Btw point me to what you're replying cause thrawn didn't even ask you anything O_o (I don't think I've missed such a thing while looking for it). The third block is meh. Says something semi-conclusive, ends up with a question to yourself. You still got trouble getting a conclusion about Koshi? If you agree with his case on Cava why does he stay null for you when you ask me about the reads? Be honest, did you just go look for OTW's cases when I asked you? If Vivax was town he would have pushed this harder after OO talked about it. Like OO hasn't got enough balls to go against a town Vivax like this. I do not believe. | ||
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Vivax nails OO and OO is able to smooth talk out of it by doing some scumhunting? I do not believe. | ||
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But for some reason Vivax is not talking to OTW at all. And then he talks to Kush and suddenly Kush is scum. | ||
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Scum better kills me, for WIFOM or for righteousness. | ||
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On April 30 2014 22:12 kushm4sta wrote: Yah hosting was really solid this game. | ||
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