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On April 16 2014 03:57 OmniEulogy wrote:
I'm not even tunneling you. If I thought you were scum I'd vote for you. Are you scummy to me? yes.

This entire conversation happened because Koshi was asking me questions about you though so the idea that I'm tunneling you because I'm answering Koshi's questions is pretty amusing. It's on page 12 by the way, not even that long ago.

So far you've made an association case and then asked everybody else for something you failed to answer yourself because you've only played one game. Oh and blatantly lied about your town meta in that same post and proceeded to answer that accusation from OTW by telling him to read a book...

You just don't strike me as doing anything beneficial for any reason for town right now.
Koshi seems lost in half his questions/posts.
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^ scumhunting so hard he ignores likely town behavior and calls him scum. I can really feel how much you care about who is scum and who is town Koshi.
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especially after that. Ignore signs to go to the much less likely option to call somebody scum.
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so happy you make your reasons known so you can go after other people. And yeah there's no reason to think anybody is town with their first 4~ posts as the game started. I thank you for your knowledge.

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Scum motivation is not having to talk about how they are going to play this very game. Especially after he's already completely off the town play he said he has in that very same post. How do you not get that?

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My previous mention of it Koshi and OTW's post which Djag completely blows off by telling OTW if he had read the book he'd get it.


sorry kush <3 I feel that last point is pretty important though.

On April 16 2014 05:34 Koshi wrote:

FirmTofu. Long time no see.
Please be active Firmtofu from like Titanic 1 and those days.

On April 16 2014 05:37 Koshi wrote:
FT how do you read Djagulingu ?

On April 15 2014 18:56 Skanjab1s wrote:
Hey guys, I'm the Vig. I've only got 3 days to play this game, so claiming now is the best option. I will use my 1 shot tonight on whoever i deem worthy of it. So far, that person is OO, for insulting my honor.

On April 16 2014 12:56 Cavalinho wrote:


Why did you make this post? It's nothing more than a wall-of-text with no real meat in it that reaches no definitive conclusion.

On April 16 2014 18:52 Skanjab1s wrote:
Rejoice, I have woken up to so many pages, I'm gonna go through them and respond to everything.

Yes!



I will keep my target to myself, don't worry. I'm going to carry on scumhunting (more actively as of now) and just proceed as usual. I always find the beginnings of days hard to actually contribute to, now that we've got lots of pages of stuff I'll be better.

FirmTofu, just out of curiosity, do you play on omgus? How many games have you played with me?

On April 17 2014 04:25 OneThousandWords wrote:
Thrawn's main contributions this game:




This is his first contribution into the thread other than the non-sensical replies to longer posts earlier in his filter and it's just piggybacking off a post that I made earlier in the thread here. This is a relatively easy thing to do as mafia because:

A) It lets people appear to be contributing.

B) If worded differently but similar it enables people to pocket the other people that made the original case because they have seemingly similar reads.

C) To the people that didn't read it they are fooled into believing it is original content.

Now, on it's own I know this is not enough, however, thrawn's behaviour is not your typical town behaviour! He flits from one lynch to the next with little explanation. He practically wants to lynch half the game!

I've mentioned Mderg before.

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He wants to lynch ME which is somewhat of a kick in the teeth seeing as he is the one that is sheeping MY point of view on mderg. What could be the reason for this? Is he not reading what i've written? Nope. It's something about skan and nothing about the actual player that he got his read from. + Show Spoiler +

He wants to policy lynch an AFK player who is talking about nonsense (Alakaslam).

He wants to also look into OE who he also says is scummy before even looking into him. This is not what I expect a typical person to do. Usually it's:

I'll look into a player ----> Here is why he is scummy.

Thrawn's view is.

This is a somewhat scummy player ----> Going to go look into him after I've already made my decision about whether he is scummy or not!


In conclusion thrawn is a person who, while talking a lot, seems to be a person of fleeting wishes. He is keen to hop onto anyone he can push a lynch onto. He hasn't "read the thread" and pushes others reads as his own. He calls the person he got his case for on his vote choice scum based on early conversation in a time where nothing was happening.



##Vote Thrawn2112

On April 17 2014 04:39 Vivax wrote:
Current status of reads. Reasoning pending, but ask me about a specific one if you want me to explain it first:

Townies: Koshi, Djagu, Cava, thrawn, (~Kush fwiw)

Today's lynch candidates (by PoE and cause there is some stuff I don't like): FT, Omni, OTW, OO, mderg

Also HI GUYS =D . Rejoice that you got me and not that crazy grush fac-simile

On April 17 2014 04:47 OneThousandWords wrote:


This post is a fruitless attempt to discredit the substance of the original post. I had already brought up mderg's post having no conclusions previously in the thread and so when someone returns to the thread after having ONLY responded with one or two word jokes before and their only contribution is something that I had already mentioned then what benefit have they brought to the table? What extra information is provided. None whatsoever. You answer points A, B and C with points that have no relevance without the context of the rest of the post.

On April 17 2014 04:49 FirmTofu wrote:

Good to see you Vivax. I agree with your town reads, to an extent, but you're wrong about me. Regardless, while you're hear I'd like to hear your thoughts on Omni and OTW. Why do you find them scummy? I'd like to see where we agree in this department.

On April 17 2014 04:50 OneThousandWords wrote:


Why do I have to be specific? You replaced a player who has said nothing but spam in the thread so I'd like to know why you think what you do so I can see if what you think aligns with what has happened so far, rather than it being a random list of names with no factual basis.

On April 17 2014 04:54 OneThousandWords wrote:

A mafia's objective is to blend into town and the best way to do that is contribute. When you are mafia it is harder to contribute because psychologically you know all the alignments and it becomes harder to point out things that are scummy. That is why it is a standard mafia tactic to mimic what other people have said previously in the thread. This feigns contribution and makes themselves look good because people seemingly forget what other people had said previously.

Thrawn does this with me and mderg. I write about mderg's first post having no conclusions and he mimics it but the caveat is that he calls me scum without actually referencing my contributions, in fact, he ignores them entirely.

Furthermore, everytime someone knew is brought up he calls them scummy eving going so far as to call someone scummy before reading them!

On April 17 2014 05:09 OmniEulogy wrote:
FT I'm pretty sure everybody in this game should know how Koshi and Kush feel about me at this point. Koshi and I have like two pages of this game entirely focused on conversations between ourselves which started and ended in him calling me scum and Kush has said he thinks im town in like three different posts.

This comes off as a useless question to me that anybody in this game should be able to answer.

On April 17 2014 09:07 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok lets lynch firmtofu. his scumread on OTW is a defense of me.... his knowledge of my alignment is his basis for attacking OTW

On April 17 2014 09:57 thrawn2112 wrote:
Who do you want to lynch? Your vote is on OTW but you just said you don;t know if you have a real scumread on him yet.

On April 17 2014 04:43 FirmTofu wrote:

I'll address your points in order.
A) It lets people appear to be contributing.

Yes, what thrawn did was a good way to appear like he was contributing. However, everything he said in that quote was absolutely true. mderg's post was useless and served no purpose. I wouldn't hold this point against thrawn.

B) If worded differently but similar it enables people to pocket the other people that made the original case because they have seemingly similar reads.

IF? Why are you speaking in hypotheticals? It wasn't worded differently, so why are you bringing up a scenario in which it would be? This is an exercise in pointlessness.

C) To the people that didn't read it they are fooled into believing it is original content.

What does this have to do with anything? If other people didn't read it, how does it make thrawn look more guilty?

In sum, your case is awful and you look far worse for having made it.

On April 17 2014 10:07 kushm4sta wrote:
why aren't we lynching cavalinho? why are people townreading that guy?

On April 17 2014 10:19 thrawn2112 wrote:


yeah I agree that I'm town. i dont really understand the question

On April 17 2014 10:20 Vivax wrote:
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PoE mostly and the posts or playstyle which didn't make me add them to the townie list.
Also posted some stuff on OTW previously, I think you missed that cause it would answer half of your question.

As for the other half, OmniEulogy, my conclusion is right above this post. You're encouraged to post your opinion, especially since you're not cleared in my book and the "Oh look Vivax is ignoring me, hmmm, interesting" doesn't make you look much better. Do you think I could be scum?

Also answer me this: The reason you think OTW could be scum is that his case on thrawn looks bad as far as I can gain from your filter. How do you discern if it's a bad townie making it or scum? Cause that case alone isn't enough of an argument, so how did you conclude scum? My arguments for him being possible scum were different.

On April 17 2014 10:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
I cant read it as a third party observer because I know I'm town and I know what my motivations have been behind all those posts. So I'm already biased to townread myself. But I'll pretend I don't know that,

Do I think his case is stupid? Yes. But it's the kind of case that I'm used to seeing posted whenever I play the spammy and loose town style that I'm playing this game. I know that I jump around a lot and some people are hardwired to think that's scummy. Back when I first started playing I wouls always get mislynched because of cases like the one OTW made, people accused me of having too many targets, of opputunistic voting, of having incoherent reads and chaning my mind too often, all that kind of stuff.

The problem is that your super strong townread on me seems to be the only reason you scumread OTW. And that indicates that you're scum, making an easy case on OTW because you know that I'm town so it's easy for you to shit all over OTW's case.

On April 17 2014 10:41 thrawn2112 wrote:


You didn't explicity defend me. In fact you never really stated that I was town. Me being town was more of an assumption you seemed to make. It's not like you were trying to stick up for me or anything, your main agenda with that post was to express that you thought OTW's case against me was scummy.

Anyways, this conversation is getting a bit repetitive, I think it'd be more useful for you to figure out who you want to lynch.

On April 17 2014 11:04 thrawn2112 wrote:
hey FT you need to give your full read on OTW.

And if you aren't convinced he's scum then you need to explain what you're thinking about doing with your vote.

On April 17 2014 11:11 OmniEulogy wrote:


I said this to Koshi too but you can do what ever you want dude. till you actually do it keep your empty threats to yourself

On April 17 2014 12:37 thrawn2112 wrote:



btw I'm probably the swing vote. and I'm still not completely shut off to the idea of lynching you. So what do you think about cavalinho now that he's arrived?

if you just fuck off then that WILL increase your chances of being lynched

On April 17 2014 12:51 Cavalinho wrote:


Have you actually said anything that has any basis in fact?

Vivax has made good points, and you have yet to address any of them while egging on my lynch. Here, you're just going "yeah cav is probably scum." Have you actually sat down and considered that something like that might have put you on the wrong track?

On April 17 2014 13:00 Vivax wrote:
It's cute how you two try to milk the cred before this dude flips scum.

On April 17 2014 13:05 Vivax wrote:
I'm bad at this game and need to reread.
Sorry tofu , hope you stick around.