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On April 16 2014 23:35 OmniEulogy wrote:
the problem I'm having right now Koshi is that between Kush, Cavalinho, Slam, FirmTofu, and even still mderg I have no reason to think that any of them are town. I'm also undecided about OTW and OO but they give me a better feeling than the others. given that I'd rather vote for Thrawn even if he is voting on Kush because to me Kush blends in more with the others making me doubt if we'll really lynch scum if we lynch him.
This post. Interesting?
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On April 16 2014 03:57 OmniEulogy wrote:I'm not even tunneling you. If I thought you were scum I'd vote for you. Are you scummy to me? yes. This entire conversation happened because Koshi was asking me questions about you though so the idea that I'm tunneling you because I'm answering Koshi's questions is pretty amusing. It's on page 12 by the way, not even that long ago. So far you've made an association case and then asked everybody else for something you failed to answer yourself because you've only played one game. Oh and blatantly lied about your town meta in that same post and proceeded to answer that accusation from OTW by telling him to read a book... You just don't strike me as doing anything beneficial for any reason for town right now. Koshi seems lost in half his questions/posts. + Show Spoiler +On April 15 2014 18:03 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 18:00 OmniEulogy wrote:
yo man I'm all about that nova war random tangent video, how can you not enjoy this flavor. Also no, I'm not really concerned if Koshi is town right now. Town objective is not to find other townies it's to find scum. Finding townies is just a bi-product of catching the scum or do you spend all your time trying to identify town in mafia and I've been learning to do things backwards? Are you scumslipping I am town or am I not reading this propperly? On April 15 2014 21:35 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 21:28 kushm4sta wrote:
K I read the newest stuff.
Inb4 getript tries to ban skanjab.
Also Kochi you are talking alot without content. Does that not mean you are scum by your own self meta? No. I don't self meta. I don't know where you read me self metaing. Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 21:29 kushm4sta wrote:
Koshi, true or false?
Skans claim almost never is coming from scum. I don't care. It is probably unlikely but there was so much wrong with that post. I want to know why he made it in 24 hours. ^ scumhunting so hard he ignores likely town behavior and calls him scum. I can really feel how much you care about who is scum and who is town Koshi. + Show Spoiler +On April 15 2014 18:07 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 18:04 OmniEulogy wrote:On April 15 2014 18:03 Koshi wrote:On April 15 2014 18:00 OmniEulogy wrote:
yo man I'm all about that nova war random tangent video, how can you not enjoy this flavor. Also no, I'm not really concerned if Koshi is town right now. Town objective is not to find other townies it's to find scum. Finding townies is just a bi-product of catching the scum or do you spend all your time trying to identify town in mafia and I've been learning to do things backwards? Are you scumslipping I am town or am I not reading this propperly? not reading it properly. All right then. I prefer to work with PoE. If I can find obvious town I am as happy as when I find possible mafia. especially after that. Ignore signs to go to the much less likely option to call somebody scum. + Show Spoiler +On April 15 2014 20:19 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 20:15 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 15 2014 19:56 Koshi wrote:
You don't think he is scum? No, I don't, he's a townie through and through. Do you think he's scum? I see no reason to think he is town. so happy you make your reasons known so you can go after other people. And yeah there's no reason to think anybody is town with their first 4~ posts as the game started. I thank you for your knowledge. + Show Spoiler +On April 16 2014 03:26 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 03:16 OmniEulogy wrote:On April 16 2014 03:09 Koshi wrote:
I don't understand.
The guy has literally 0 scumgames.
And you blame him for playing the newbie card on how many scumgames he played.
No, I blame him for playing it period. Also On April 16 2014 01:38 Koshi wrote:
You must have missed his pretty hard "I played 1 game and caught all scum" post then.
The irky feeling was the soft newbie claim? you say it yourself. Somehow you missed it while you were typing it I guess. It has nothing to do with his amount of scum games he's played. Could be one now and it wouldn't stop him from saying he's never played as scum before. You blame him for playing it when it suits him, a big difference. It didn't suit him at all. What is the scum motivation saying he only played 1 game before so he couldn't self meta? And it was super casual. He dropped it because the subject about self meta was in the thread. He didn't gained anything. Anyway, my vote is on the right person. Scum motivation is not having to talk about how they are going to play this very game. Especially after he's already completely off the town play he said he has in that very same post. How do you not get that? + Show Spoiler +On April 15 2014 23:31 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 22:38 Djagulingu wrote:On April 15 2014 21:42 OneThousandWords wrote:Djagulingu, you describe your town play as: My town play is really stalk heavy. I watch all of you. All of you, when you post, when you sleep, when you work, when you eat. I might come out of nowhere with random people to lynch for random reasons. They did come out true though.
I would define my town play as systematic instead of impulsive, I don't care about collateral damage, sharp and decisive over overly cautious.
In this game you have already called 2 people scum for supposed scum slips. Am I to assume that you have now 180° on your own meta so quickly? This doesn't look very systematic to me, it looks like the complete opposite. You jump on people and call them scum without much basis and state that you are helping the town by making a pro-town atmosphere of sophisticated discussion when, instead, you are steering people in a very specific direction on a point of view that seems entirely skewed on pushing an agenda. You would understand if you have read Hunter Book: Wayward. But I like your sharpness. You're like Peleus in that book. This is how God45 defines Peleus: And so I found him. The prodigal problem child. Alleyman. Peleus.
The sniper was a little resitant to my ideas. That's understandable. I was actually pleased that he didn't take to them so quickly. Enlightenment shouldn't come immediately. It took me a long time to discover the truth. We can't all be Paul on the road to Damascus.
He had the methods down. He's messy and he leaves too much of himself behind, but he's efficient. His numbers are great. And I appreciate his attitude toward others of our kind. He won't tolerate their whiny, backstabbing bullshit. Their opinions are threefold- they can help, they can get out of the way or they try to find their way out of a body bag. He doesn't know the words for it yet, but somewhere in there he knows that if you're not curing the cancer, you are the cancer. There's no in between. unless you are roleplaying as somebody in your book I fail to see how it changes what he said and how this answers none of it =/ My previous mention of it Koshi and OTW's post which Djag completely blows off by telling OTW if he had read the book he'd get it. sorry kush <3 I feel that last point is pretty important though.
Vivax. Your opinion on this post?
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OneThousandWords,
I didn't comment on the thrawn post because I got thrawn as town but I was ok with your case. I don't agree that thrawn is scum but there is nothing wrong with your case. So I don't post anything.
What do you want me to say? It is obvious I don't agree with you on thrawn.
Anyway. You shouldn't be on chopping block today as well I guess. As you are contributing.
I am voting Omni.
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##unvote:
##vote: OmniEulogy
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On April 17 2014 08:00 OneThousandWords wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 07:59 Koshi wrote:
OneThousandWords,
I didn't comment on the thrawn post because I got thrawn as town but I was ok with your case. I don't agree that thrawn is scum but there is nothing wrong with your case. So I don't post anything.
What do you want me to say? It is obvious I don't agree with you on thrawn.
Anyway. You shouldn't be on chopping block today as well I guess. As you are contributing.
I am voting Omni. Can you write a quick summary of why because I thought he looked towny.
On April 16 2014 04:03 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 03:39 kushm4sta wrote:On April 16 2014 03:09 Koshi wrote:
I don't understand.
The guy has literally 0 scumgames.
And you blame him for playing the newbie card on how many scumgames he played. So this is the totality of why you are voting for omniknight? 1) Entering game with the breakfast and then the not understandable novastar business. 2) Not doing anything after game was underway for 5-6 hours and nothing happened. 3) Awkward answers early game. Like how he was not hunting for townies. (the scumslip?) 4) He liked the skanjab vig claim because "scum has to deal with it". I mean seriously? He even thinks it is fake. 5) His first analysis in the game was a townread for which he still had an irky feeling because he played the newbie card when it suited him. (Can I get your/other people their opinion on this?) 6) I am annoying him while I am trying to get this game going. 7) Seems like his latest contribution is a case on that townread he had previously. And me I think. Got to read.
I don't know how valid those points are but I go with early game feeling. It's basically that.
After that case on djag/me he went softly after thrawn but that quickly went away. I don't know.
Like I don't know. I don't have a good scumread anymore.
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I take all the credit if he flips scum though.
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On April 17 2014 08:01 Vivax wrote:
Wait a moment Koshi. Two quick things before you put your weight on the lynch and going to bed.
1. How do you conclusively gain from those posts that OE must be scum before confronting him with it? Frankly I would want to hear that first.
2. OTW just called you scummy for ignoring his counter-case on your scumread. What was the reason for that and do you think that's a valid reason for calling you scum?
1. He isn't here. What do you want me to do? Not vote him because he isn't here? I am the first vote on him anyway.
2. I already gave the reason for it. I made a recent post that thrawn is town. He makes a post that thrawn is scum. I remember looking at that post and going w.evs. I didn't see something wrong with the case, it didn't feel wrong, but it also didn't convince me to revisit my thrawn read.
OTW and me had some turbulence this game. I also do not know how he plays mafia in general, he maybe doesn't know how we play mafia here. If this is a first game I would be surprised if he is scum. Pretty ballsy, clear, I don't have scummy feelings on his posts.
The reason he and I were clinching a couple times is because that 1 post he made about Skanjab 100% getting the RB. I probably made too big of a deal out of it and didn't explain myself properly the first time what it was really about and it grew into something it else. Like w.evs.
Like even though I am quite active. I do not have a good scumread atm. Like... Everybody can still be scum it feels like. But my feelings do have a decent order in which I would lynch personally. atm Omni is pretty high on that list. Probably the highest. Like I could go OO or FT or maybe somebody else but I feel like due to early game I feel better if Omni is out of the game.
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Nha tbh. I am looking at this playerlist and I don't know. I can only use feelings.
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Omni is probably a good lynch. Maybe FT as well.
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Omni ft OO for endgame bragging rights.
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Ohh 1 last thing. WORK TOGETHER and try to get 4 votes on a guy. Me voting alone on omni is a douchebag move in that regard but need to see some decent patterns. 3 votes on everybody is shit and will never lynch scum. Never.
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Meh town. It was totes 50/50 I guess.. At leat from where I left. Hopefully some good stuff happened. I wont be around for multiple hours. Will read later.
If there is somebody who doesnt know what to do. Trow me a list of 3 vig targets 3 doc 3 cop with reasoning.
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thrawn is 100% town
Vivax is 90% town. That part about Carvalinho getting modkilled is really really bad. 50% town because of care level. The rest is because he is figuring things out.
Djagulingu 80% town. I just like him.
Omni 65% town. He cared a shitton about the lynch. I liked all his post going towards the lynch. It was simply really good. I need explanations for these 2 things though. Are you some sort of pessimist or something?
On April 17 2014 12:58 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 12:56 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok time for a bible lesson
there's this king or something
two bitches
bitch #1's baby dies. bitch #1 steals bitch #2's baby. they go before the king to let him decide what to do. he decides to chop baby in half so they can each have part of it. scummy bitch #1 says ok. townie bitch #2 says no and has emotional outburst.
king realizes that btich #1 is the liar.
in this game FT is acting like B #1 by saying that he's fine with himself being lynched instead of a no lynch. he's splitting the difference, he's compromising and agreeing to something that he shouldn't, if he is town.
and cavalin is B #2 for being more emotional than FT I liked that story and now it's gonna be ruined forever.
Why do you make both these posts?↑↓
On April 17 2014 13:01 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 13:00 Vivax wrote:
It's cute how you two try to milk the cred before this dude flips scum. it's cute how you continue to look down on people and be hypocritical 
mderg Gutread town.
Skanjab1s Fuck I hope you are the vig and you can wifom the scum RB.
Cavalinho is scum for this. 5 minutes before the flip he makes a comment about me, why is he already starting searching 5 mins before the lynch after new scummy people? Everybody (who is town) waits till after lynch and then bask in glory or are upset. Cav starts making plans in case FT flips town while his vote is on FT...... A normal attitude is to see who gets the most cred after a scumflip (because it is his scumread), not looking who gets "blamed" if he turns green. Then his shit about Vivax so incredible town for not voting him but on the other hand his analisys of the lynch is that it is between 2 townies so scum can do w.e the fuck they wanted. That doesn't add up at all. Vivax is town but not for that. I agree with Kush that the post Cavalinho made after the lynch about being between 2 townies not too hard is to make.
On April 17 2014 12:55 Cavalinho wrote:
I'm really weirded out by Koshi voting for OE, because he very obviously isn't going to get lynched. Same goes for OO and Skanjab.
If FT gets lynched and flips town, I think we should start questioning everyone else that isn't coalescing on him. I thought that this lynch was pretty polarized up until thrawn and OE flipped their votes.
Anyone else agree?
OneThousandWords Scum for looking for the FT lynch during the day and fucking off as soon as he safely could put his vote on FT.
ObviousOne PoE scum. Plays like scum. My eyebrows went frownie when he is talking about me and his jabbering about the difference between my themed game play and my normal play. Also he didn't vote. Also town saved carvalinho.
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Town is not bolded in green because they failed to lynch scum.
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Tomorrow. Everybody fucking claims.
The cop claims.
The doc claims and his target.
The vig claims.
All the RB claim.
No fucking lies.
MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
Everything is
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On April 17 2014 19:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
@ koshi
kush is town too right?
ahyeah he is 60% town. I forgot about him.
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On April 17 2014 19:34 Koshi wrote:
Tomorrow. Everybody fucking claims.
The cop claims.
The doc claims and his target.
The vig claims.
All the RB claim.
No fucking lies.
MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
Everything is
Everything is one shot.
btw, the RB people claim first.
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First the RB(s)
Then the vig (even if not yet shot)
Then the doc (his target should be RB)
Then the cop
I would like it if doc / cop use actions tonight. I would advice that strongly.
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On April 17 2014 19:37 thrawn2112 wrote:
i hope nobody claims. i'm useless at setup speculation and claims just make me hesitant about all my reads
Dude, for example if there are 2 RBs you can bet there is a doc and a scum rb.
That means that the doc needs to be cc by scum or free townie.
There are very likely equal town powerroles vs equal scum power roles in this set-up.
There are very likely not 2 of the same. Unless there are only 2 powerroles. Because this is a normal mini set-up.
Day 2 claims need to happen.
It will give shitton of information.
I promise.
Make it happen.
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btw. Scum kp can not be RB.
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