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On April 23 2014 07:35 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2014 07:33 mderg wrote:On April 23 2014 07:29 thrawn2112 wrote:On April 23 2014 07:28 mderg wrote:On April 23 2014 07:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
it does sorta look like he'sthrowing out reads according to thread sentiment
I´m not throwing out reads according to thread sentiment. Definitely not. why aren't you participating in discussion? I´m not? I´m giving my opinion on everything I can. I mean the last page hasn´t even been a real discussion, just OTW posting his reasons for voting me, you agreeing with him on that and kush is just saying: yeah, let´s lynch mderg or something. How am I supposed to discuss that? that's not it. otw posted content. kush and i both made posts about the content that otw posted. otw responded. we responded back. you sit there doing nothing during all of that. do you think that we should be townreading you? do you think you look townie?
I think you should be townreading you, since I am town. Apparently I don´t look townie since there are so many votes on me.
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scummy vivax reasoning:
it happpened like this is that game, SO THIS GAME MUST BE JUST LIEK THAT GAME
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On April 23 2014 07:45 Vivax wrote:Mderg I think the reasons skanja gave us for suspecting FT are legit, I would have suspected FT myself for the same reasons. There's just this doubt nagging at the back of my head that he's pro scum and made up that mistake on purpose but for today I'm not lynching him cause I liked our conversation. Also checking his games he never rolled scum in the 4 or 5 of them. FT so-hosted a game where skanja was town so there's that, confirmed truthful argument. And neither might I be lynching Kush IF HE EXPLAINS WHY HE SUDDENLY TOWNREADS ME. Cause in my experience scumkush doesn't townread his main scumread out of the blue, he didn't in Dr Who, but I want to know if it's serious and has a reason, cause else I'll just assume it was bullshitting. Show nested quote + I don't like how he's skipped over me on the basis that I town read him though, that seems like a strange thing to do for someone in the dark on alignments I townread you for other reasons, but now I'm not so sure if they're valid anymore cause there's you and mderg, and maybe kush left as possible scum. That post was just a way of copying what kush did and see how thrawn reacts. Conclusion drawn: Tunneled as fuck, put on ignore. The "angry lines" were me thinking it was deadline day already. Tired gaming. Show nested quote +
He also was set on vivax being scum but then out of the blue started calling him town after posts that were in my eyes, questionable. He seems to be playing the game backwards.
Now that you're at this I would like you to tell me what was questionable about my posts, and have a chat about it with kush to see why you get to different conclusions.
i'm not sure if I understood this. but are you saying skan is town?
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On April 23 2014 07:21 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2014 07:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
omni wasn't/isn't proving original content Exactly! And to keep on that. Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 11:11 Koshi wrote:On April 21 2014 10:46 OneThousandWords wrote:On April 21 2014 10:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
i dont really have any right now
everyone that isn't kush/koshi are about the same level of scuminess and I could lynch any of them. hopefully we will know more after the deadline.
skan/vivax are who i most want to lynch.
i have no idea how to read OTW and i still don't see why mderg is so scummy Well I've never rolled scum in all 2 of the forum mafia games I've played so that's a start! Can someone explain the vivax lynch because he looks really towny from his filter and koshi brought up that he was scum based on one really small point and seems to be super certain of it all of a sudden. I still don't understand because he never elaborated. Vivax is a pretty good player, so I expect that he knows who is scum by now. Or at least has a couple names. Just like yourself, you think it is Mderg/Koshi/Skanjab. But Vivax in response of Kush made it quite obvious he didn't have a clue who to push. That's extremely scummy because as scum you don't have a "scumhunting storyline" or you don't really feel who you got to push because you are playing reactionary to the thread. So when Kush had Vivax as 4th scum. Vivax made a problem of this. This means that Vivax doesn't think that the scummers were with the first 3. But a couple minutes later Vivax even claimed he had Kush as scum. So that's 4 scummers right there. So who the fuck does Vivax think is scum? Vivax doesn't know who is scum. Vivax is scum. Granted vivax was 3rd not 4th but semantics. I still haven't seen Vivax address this post at all. He's dead but it's not like you can avoid what he's said because he's gone.
I don't even know what the hell the 3s and 4s are supposed to mean. At the time people I wanted to lynch were mderg and skanja and then kush flipped his read on me for the xth time when somebody else gave the same read on me. He did it again and now I want reasons...again. He's like unable to call me null or something.
And Koshi somehow concluded that I had no scumreads from that, as if I already had ticked in my reads for good.
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On April 21 2014 05:17 kushm4sta wrote:
nah koshi skan is town
On April 21 2014 14:52 kushm4sta wrote:
all the scummy mother fuckers want to lynch skan. that is not a good sign.
On April 23 2014 05:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
not so sure about lynching vivax any more. but we are definitely not lynching skan
On April 22 2014 10:10 Vivax wrote:
I'm voting Skanja and going to bed. If you really have to flip me before the liar, you know what to do afterwards. Lynch him and either kush or mderg, I'm still not sure on the both of them.
On April 23 2014 00:14 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2014 00:02 thrawn2112 wrote:
vivax why do you think OTW is super town? Cause he reads me as town and skanja as scum.
On April 19 2014 06:27 Vivax wrote:I don't think mderg is scum, you wanted to get at something connection-y?
On April 17 2014 11:09 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 10:33 FirmTofu wrote:On April 17 2014 10:20 Vivax wrote:
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PoE mostly and the posts or playstyle which didn't make me add them to the townie list.
Also posted some stuff on OTW previously, I think you missed that cause it would answer half of your question.
As for the other half, OmniEulogy, my conclusion is right above this post. You're encouraged to post your opinion, especially since you're not cleared in my book and the "Oh look Vivax is ignoring me, hmmm, interesting" doesn't make you look much better. Do you think I could be scum?
Also answer me this: The reason you think OTW could be scum is that his case on thrawn looks bad as far as I can gain from your filter. How do you discern if it's a bad townie making it or scum? Cause that case alone isn't enough of an argument, so how did you conclude scum? My arguments for him being possible scum were different. Not really considering you as scum just yet. I just wanted to hear from you. I like this case on OE.
I think OTW is scummy for a variety of different, small reasons. His attitude has been generally defensive, his responses to your questions were less than impressive, and his vote on me is pure OMGUS. I don't have a case on him yet, persay, but I wouldn't mind lynching him, that much is certain. Actually I thought his answers to me made him look a little better cause he wasn't afraid of pissing me off which is something I wouldn't expect from newb scum (if he is who he claims to be which I'm not sure if I should believe), my main concern though is the way he pushed people early in the game. It looked like plain scum aggressiveness, not figuring out people. Hence why I was suspicious of his lack of townreads. I could lynch him too. Hell, I could lynch everybody I said I would lynch initially except for the german dude cause of the way he replied to me.
On April 21 2014 05:30 Koshi wrote:
He first has mderg/skanjab and then goes mderg/Koshi. So if mderg is scum otw prolly isn't.
mderg + vivax looks pretty good honestly after going through all the filters and looking at what Koshi was saying before he died.
OO never directly mentioned Vivax, only answered questions while trying to lynch FT or Thrawn.
Also "mderg is part of my filter already" from OO. mderg actually isn't mentioned in his filter before this. Why lie about something like that?
On April 17 2014 07:18 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 04:39 Vivax wrote:
Current status of reads. Reasoning pending, but ask me about a specific one if you want me to explain it first:
Townies: Koshi, Djagu, Cava, thrawn, (~Kush fwiw)
Today's lynch candidates (by PoE and cause there is some stuff I don't like): FT, Omni, OTW, OO, mderg
Also HI GUYS =D . Rejoice that you got me and not that crazy grush fac-simile This list? FT I feel like I've always had a hard time getting a read on. I know in the past I've always felt he was scummy and it was based on activity at the time. Given his relative activity to this game it can't really be used against him. Reading Omni's filter last night put me into a comatose state trying to make sense of it. His style seems to be part conversational, part POE, which I think makes him more likely to be town than scum, but he's taken a hard line defending borderline-at-the-time mderg which I don't understand the reason for. Don't really care for the summary-nature of his read on thrawn because it doesn't really come to a solid conclusion, yet that's where his vote lands. Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 23:23 OmniEulogy wrote:
his vote on mderg is scummy imo, his accusations considering his entire filter comes down to policy lynching Slam and lynching mderg, and then his conversation with Koshi about Kush where he only votes for kush after you do Skan. It just seems like the only thing he does is try to find a SAFE place to put his vote. Interesting choice of words; safe place to put a vote. Interesting because somehow he's created a situation where that's what he's done. Putting his vote in a safe place (on someone who he perceived as someone putting their vote somewhere safe) SAFE-CEPTION? OTW seems to be adjusting to how games play here, not sure yet on his alignment. Gut would say town but since he's new here I don't know how to tell for certain yet. I already bought up the potential culture clash which he hasn't responded to yet, if it even merited a response. mderg is part of my filter alreadyHow are you so confident on your town reads on cav and djag?
I've bolded it for you but this is his first mention of mderg and it's more to attack me while saying mderg is neutral and then brushes it off to continue attacking me. Pretty confident mderg is scum and Vivax to follow.
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oh yeah. koshi had a good post abuot OO and vivax interations. lemme find it.
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On April 21 2014 12:07 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 06:20 Vivax wrote:@ OO PoE AND posts like this: On April 16 2014 03:46 ObviousOne wrote:On April 15 2014 21:23 kushm4sta wrote:
Haven't read newest shit but
Oo why you want to plynch Akaka if you have no problem town reading him?
Why you gotta shit town read thrawn based on bullshit? I wouldn't say that his activity is the only way to read him and it's subjective anyhow, I basically caught him through POE and that was the best reason I could come up with in Toy Story, he exhibited both behaviors there so I'm going to use the guideline until it no longer works (i.e. he steps up and plays the game). He's a policy lynch because I have no idea what the fuck he is saying 99% of the time. He seems to have the goal of being unreadable in every game he plays and that puts him in my "ok to policy lynch" group because I'd hate to lose to him (again, lol). re: thrawn, how would you suggest I eliminate people from the lynch based on their behavior if not on some basic first post instinct when the game is like 20 minutes in? I've opened lines of communication when in the past things have been not so great between us, unless I recall incorrectly. The last game we played together I wanted to lynch him and he ended up being town, so I'm trying a new approach so I don't immediately put him in a category labeled "people I want to lynch because I hate" Gotta re-read after I get some coffee in me. Only other thought I had for the moment is I didn't immediately want to lynch Koshi which is standing out to me. I think he's more actively participating (rather than posting for what looks like the sake of posting) than in other games I've read/played with him in them. Maybe that's some kind of themed-level-Koshi and I haven't seen a normal ass game Koshi in recent memory? Let's split this into three text blocks. First block is a huge answer about Kaslam. That's ok, that's not my beef, kush asked you a question.
The second block is defensive in my opinion. What is your intention here since according to kush you townread thrawn? Btw point me to what you're replying cause thrawn didn't even ask you anything O_o (I don't think I've missed such a thing while looking for it).
The third block is meh. Says something semi-conclusive, ends up with a question to yourself. You still got trouble getting a conclusion about Koshi?On April 17 2014 06:00 mderg wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 15 2014 21:42 OneThousandWords wrote:Djagulingu, you describe your town play as: Show nested quote +My town play is really stalk heavy. I watch all of you. All of you, when you post, when you sleep, when you work, when you eat. I might come out of nowhere with random people to lynch for random reasons. They did come out true though.
I would define my town play as systematic instead of impulsive, I don't care about collateral damage, sharp and decisive over overly cautious.
In this game you have already called 2 people scum for supposed scum slips. Am I to assume that you have now 180° on your own meta so quickly? This doesn't look very systematic to me, it looks like the complete opposite. You jump on people and call them scum without much basis and state that you are helping the town by making a pro-town atmosphere of sophisticated discussion when, instead, you are steering people in a very specific direction on a point of view that seems entirely skewed on pushing an agenda. I don´t agree with this case on Djagulingu. It´s purely based on Djagu´s self meta which I think is always difficult to base a case on. + Show Spoiler +On April 16 2014 07:23 OneThousandWords wrote:I also find it odd how Cavalinho has chosen to respond to posts in the thread. His chose his first posts of the game to say hi and that he isn't going to comment on anything because nothing has happened. I find this in and of itself strange. When people first start the game they usually start to converse with people or even talk about policy, however, Cavalinho decided not to have any part of the conversation whatsoever. Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 14:36 Cavalinho wrote:On April 15 2014 14:32 ObviousOne wrote:On April 15 2014 13:54 Cavalinho wrote:
Hi. Right on, right on. What you thinking about right now? Nothing has happened yet. So...Nothing. Now, understandably we do not know the circumstances and I'd like to hear more from him but then he returns to the thread after quite some time to post, well, nothing. His only real post is a post to jump on discrediting OmniEulogy (whether justly or not). Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 04:05 Cavalinho wrote:On April 16 2014 03:57 OmniEulogy wrote:
I'm not even tunneling you. If I thought you were scum I'd vote for you. Are you scummy to me? yes. Uhh. Also I don't get the points in your post at all. I find this an odd behavioural tidbit because IMO this is not a townies mindset. I agree with this case on cav + Show Spoiler +On April 16 2014 23:54 OneThousandWords wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 19:22 Koshi wrote:
OneThousandWords
Did absolutely NOTHING.
Went in an argument with me defending the fact that skanjab HAS TO CLAIM RB OR IS MAFIA ON D2 while OTW himself didn't believe the Vig claim.
Then he made some halfassed case on Cavalinho which simply isn't enough for a smurf. Even if Cavalinho is suspicious, it doesn't change the fact OTW has done nothing. Just some silly quotes enabling him to fly under radar. This is categorically false. Where do I state that I don't believe he could be vig? Also, I've seen the word smurf thrown around. If it's used in the same way as MOBA games then you're wrong, I was invited here by a friend from another mafia site. Here is wherein the real problem lies. All the people that you seemingly "like" for things that they have done have quite simply started from posts that I have made. Thrawn's main contributions this game: Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 16:20 thrawn2112 wrote:
No. He made a huge post that doesn't contribute anything. He didn't say a single thing that is relevant to the lynch. It's even worse than no scumreads, there are no reads of any kind. He argued his points without giving any indication that he was forming reads based off of the things he was arguing against.
This is his first contribution into the thread other than the non-sensical replies to longer posts earlier in his filter and it's just piggybacking off a post that I made earlier in the thread here. This is a relatively easy thing to do as mafia because: A) It lets people appear to be contributing. B) If worded differently but similar it enables people to pocket the other people that made the original case because they have seemingly similar reads. C) To the people that didn't read it they are fooled into believing it is original content. Now, on it's own I know this is not enough, however, thrawn's behaviour is not your typical town behaviour! He flits from one lynch to the next with little explanation. He practically wants to lynch half the game! I've mentioned Mderg before. Here he wants to lynch Kush. + Show Spoiler +On April 16 2014 17:53 thrawn2112 wrote:same for me. becasue of this post Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 04:48 kushm4sta wrote:
T-5 hours until you both realize each other are town (regardless of if you are or not) He wants to lynch ME which is somewhat of a kick in the teeth seeing as he is the one that is sheeping MY point of view on mderg. What could be the reason for this? Is he not reading what i've written? Nope. It's something about skan and nothing about the actual player that he got his read from. + Show Spoiler +On April 16 2014 19:26 thrawn2112 wrote:
100words is probably my 2nd lynch choice. i almost voted for him instead of that other guy. what stood out to me is how his main talking point was skan's claim and how pointless it was to talk about the claim yet he did nothing but talk about the claim
koshi i'll fully read and respond to that meta when i wake up. too tired/tipsy for that right now. but i did skim one of the links and I notice that he likes to argue about stuff without thinking about alignments. so my preliminary answer to you question is yes, the meta does sorta make me uncertain about lnyching him. He wants to policy lynch an AFK player who is talking about nonsense (Alakaslam). He wants to also look into OE who he also says is scummy before even looking into him. This is not what I expect a typical person to do. Usually it's: I'll look into a player ----> Here is why he is scummy. Thrawn's view is. This is a somewhat scummy player ----> Going to go look into him after I've already made my decision about whether he is scummy or not! In conclusion thrawn is a person who, while talking a lot, seems to be a person of fleeting wishes. He is keen to hop onto anyone he can push a lynch onto. He hasn't "read the thread" and pushes others reads as his own. He calls the person he got his case for on his vote choice scum based on early conversation in a time where nothing was happening. ##Vote Thrawn2112 Here I agree on the part about thrawns first contribution being the case on me is scummy. I don´t think thrawn was sheeping OTW, though. If you agree with his case on Cava why does he stay null for you when you ask me about the reads? Be honest, did you just go look for OTW's cases when I asked you? If Vivax was town he would have pushed this harder after OO talked about it. Like OO hasn't got enough balls to go against a town Vivax like this. I do not believe.
On April 21 2014 12:09 Koshi wrote:
Sorry but OO made Vivax his bitch. Look at the entire conversation chain.
Vivax nails OO and OO is able to smooth talk out of it by doing some scumhunting?
I do not believe.
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On April 23 2014 08:01 thrawn2112 wrote:
oh yeah. koshi had a good post abuot OO and vivax interations. lemme find it.
who fucking needs an opinion when I can just steal Koshi's man lol I mean this all depends on mderg actually flipping scum but it looks pretty damn likely.
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On April 23 2014 07:05 OneThousandWords wrote:
I'm finally free!
A few things to note:
I'm glad vivax stepped up and talked rather than those few lines he angrily left yesterday, not sure why he even did that in the first place. I don't like how he's skipped over me on the basis that I town read him though, that seems like a strange thing to do for someone in the dark on alignments. He also focuses a lot on skanjab1s vigilante claim which I'm not sure is apt when his whole filter contains things that are weird. He did seemingly address that after though which was a weird order of things to do it.
Skanjab1s claim has been rattled to death and honestly it's not telling of an alignment. He keeps making it out to be something super town sided though and skipping over the glaringly obvious part of it enabling him to afk safely for a day as scum which honestly is a little strange. Other than that his read and vote on tofu AFTER the deadline is really very very fake. The first instinct I have after opening a thread is to catch up on everything I have missed post by post and if there's a deadline I check to see the alignment of the player . Now, I can overlook that as just forgetfulness, however, in order to post what he did at that time you would have to completely ignore EVERYTHING on the latest page at the time and EVERYTHING about the game which I don't see someone with a mindset to solve the game doing. It looked like he thought the deadline was coming and wanted to make sure his vote was on the person that got lynched and for a reason.
Kush has been very very strange this past day, like he's not interested what is going on, how many scum are left, who is left. I don't see this happening from a town mindset because when I'm in the game and trying to figure things out this stuff is always in the back of my mind! It struck me as very disingenuous. His day 1 play was somewhat towny but since then I haven't seen much in the same regard. He also was set on vivax being scum but then out of the blue started calling him town after posts that were in my eyes, questionable. He seems to be playing the game backwards.
Mderg hadn't really posted much. I don't like the fact that basically the only thing he did day 1 was to push a claimed vigilante and night 1 said he thought ObviousOne was scummy like all of us only to say he has towny posts the next day but correct himself not long after realising his mistake. Not long after I made a post saying Vivax was towny he did the exact same thing as me but then later on in the day said that he was coming around to the idea of me being scum which doesn't really add up at all as I was the one pushing us to re-analyse the game at a time when everyone was pretty much afking.
I'm going to stick with a skanjab1s and mderg scum team. It makes a lot of sense for scum to tell someone to push for their lynch if they have little time in the hopes they look good when the person dies. I am a little apprehensive though but people told me that mafia are good on this site so I wouldn't put it past them.
If I could come up with another scum team I think mderg would most definitely be in it too anyway so:
##vote mderg
My opinions on this, since I have to take part in this discussion...
Vivax: pretty unconcluding, not much to say
Skanjab: Yeah, his fakeclaim isn´t alignment indicative. FT vote was strange, so I pretty much agree
kush: I kinda agree on him but my focus would be more on him just posting reads left and right the last pages, without giving any clear line of thought.
Mderg: I was coming around to the idea of you being scum because of that huge wall of text some pages before, that post was pretty scummy to me. The Vivax townread had exactly nothing to do with you. In general I think you think too much about people coming to the same conclusions as you on some people, I was not sheeping your reads at any time in this game (neither was thrawn in the beginning about me, at least I don´t think he was)
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On April 23 2014 08:00 OmniEulogy wrote:OO never directly mentioned Vivax, only answered questions while trying to lynch FT or Thrawn. Also "mderg is part of my filter already" from OO. mderg actually isn't mentioned in his filter before this. Why lie about something like that? Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 07:18 ObviousOne wrote:On April 17 2014 04:39 Vivax wrote:
Current status of reads. Reasoning pending, but ask me about a specific one if you want me to explain it first:
Townies: Koshi, Djagu, Cava, thrawn, (~Kush fwiw)
Today's lynch candidates (by PoE and cause there is some stuff I don't like): FT, Omni, OTW, OO, mderg
Also HI GUYS =D . Rejoice that you got me and not that crazy grush fac-simile This list? FT I feel like I've always had a hard time getting a read on. I know in the past I've always felt he was scummy and it was based on activity at the time. Given his relative activity to this game it can't really be used against him. Reading Omni's filter last night put me into a comatose state trying to make sense of it. His style seems to be part conversational, part POE, which I think makes him more likely to be town than scum, but he's taken a hard line defending borderline-at-the-time mderg which I don't understand the reason for. Don't really care for the summary-nature of his read on thrawn because it doesn't really come to a solid conclusion, yet that's where his vote lands. On April 16 2014 23:23 OmniEulogy wrote:
his vote on mderg is scummy imo, his accusations considering his entire filter comes down to policy lynching Slam and lynching mderg, and then his conversation with Koshi about Kush where he only votes for kush after you do Skan. It just seems like the only thing he does is try to find a SAFE place to put his vote. Interesting choice of words; safe place to put a vote. Interesting because somehow he's created a situation where that's what he's done. Putting his vote in a safe place (on someone who he perceived as someone putting their vote somewhere safe) SAFE-CEPTION? OTW seems to be adjusting to how games play here, not sure yet on his alignment. Gut would say town but since he's new here I don't know how to tell for certain yet. I already bought up the potential culture clash which he hasn't responded to yet, if it even merited a response. mderg is part of my filter alreadyHow are you so confident on your town reads on cav and djag? I've bolded it for you but this is his first mention of mderg and it's more to attack me while saying mderg is neutral and then brushes it off to continue attacking me. Pretty confident mderg is scum and Vivax to follow.
Did you read his filter at all?
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On April 23 2014 07:45 Vivax wrote:Mderg I think the reasons skanja gave us for suspecting FT are legit, I would have suspected FT myself for the same reasons. There's just this doubt nagging at the back of my head that he's pro scum and made up that mistake on purpose but for today I'm not lynching him cause I liked our conversation. Also checking his games he never rolled scum in the 4 or 5 of them. FT so-hosted a game where skanja was town so there's that, confirmed truthful argument. And neither might I be lynching Kush IF HE EXPLAINS WHY HE SUDDENLY TOWNREADS ME. Cause in my experience scumkush doesn't townread his main scumread out of the blue, he didn't in Dr Who, but I want to know if it's serious and has a reason, cause else I'll just assume it was bullshitting. Show nested quote + I don't like how he's skipped over me on the basis that I town read him though, that seems like a strange thing to do for someone in the dark on alignments I townread you for other reasons, but now I'm not so sure if they're valid anymore cause there's you and mderg, and maybe kush left as possible scum. That post was just a way of copying what kush did and see how thrawn reacts. Conclusion drawn: Tunneled as fuck, put on ignore. The "angry lines" were me thinking it was deadline day already. Tired gaming. Show nested quote +
He also was set on vivax being scum but then out of the blue started calling him town after posts that were in my eyes, questionable. He seems to be playing the game backwards.
Now that you're at this I would like you to tell me what was questionable about my posts, and have a chat about it with kush to see why you get to different conclusions.
VIVAX wtf does this post mean?
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VOTE COUNT:
Vivax (0): thrawn2112, Skanjab1s
Skanjab1s (1): OmniEulogy, Vivax
mderg (5): kushm4sta, Skanjab1s, OneThousandWords, thrawn2112, OmniEulogy
Not Voting (1): mderg
Lynch is in . Voting is mandatory.
Currently mderg is set to be lynched!
If you see your vote (or anyone else') out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it.
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On April 23 2014 07:48 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2014 07:45 Vivax wrote:Mderg I think the reasons skanja gave us for suspecting FT are legit, I would have suspected FT myself for the same reasons. There's just this doubt nagging at the back of my head that he's pro scum and made up that mistake on purpose but for today I'm not lynching him cause I liked our conversation. Also checking his games he never rolled scum in the 4 or 5 of them. FT so-hosted a game where skanja was town so there's that, confirmed truthful argument. And neither might I be lynching Kush IF HE EXPLAINS WHY HE SUDDENLY TOWNREADS ME. Cause in my experience scumkush doesn't townread his main scumread out of the blue, he didn't in Dr Who, but I want to know if it's serious and has a reason, cause else I'll just assume it was bullshitting. I don't like how he's skipped over me on the basis that I town read him though, that seems like a strange thing to do for someone in the dark on alignments I townread you for other reasons, but now I'm not so sure if they're valid anymore cause there's you and mderg, and maybe kush left as possible scum. That post was just a way of copying what kush did and see how thrawn reacts. Conclusion drawn: Tunneled as fuck, put on ignore. The "angry lines" were me thinking it was deadline day already. Tired gaming.
He also was set on vivax being scum but then out of the blue started calling him town after posts that were in my eyes, questionable. He seems to be playing the game backwards.
Now that you're at this I would like you to tell me what was questionable about my posts, and have a chat about it with kush to see why you get to different conclusions. i'm not sure if I understood this. but are you saying skan is town?
D1 you ask a question. it gets answered post-lynch. You are scum, you don't read the game, you don't look up the flip, you just read and find the answer and call it out. No, it doesn't make sense unless he's playing the sloppy townie card as scum, which is something I can't exclude. But he definitely got townie points for that convo and paranoia comes last in my judgment.
The judgment for today is: We lynch mderg, kush or OTW, and if we didn't win by then we lynch skanja.
Will decide after I talked to them a bit, if kush doesn't answer my questions my vote and my wrath ends up on him for his reads on me.
This is how he justified his earlier ones:
On April 20 2014 21:06 kushm4sta wrote:
what made me read you as town?
You are very engaged, with contradicts my perception of your scum meta.
You give a lot of reasons for things.
You look like you are trying to figure shit out.
what made me change my mind?
well i'm still not 100% on you being scum, but mostly..
PoE (aka townreads on other players)
your recent inappropriately try hard posts
the realization that I don't know your meta that well
I do not have specific examples really, because i didn't close read you filter. I merely skimmed it.
I'm curious about the new.
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On April 23 2014 08:07 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2014 08:00 OmniEulogy wrote:OO never directly mentioned Vivax, only answered questions while trying to lynch FT or Thrawn. Also "mderg is part of my filter already" from OO. mderg actually isn't mentioned in his filter before this. Why lie about something like that? On April 17 2014 07:18 ObviousOne wrote:On April 17 2014 04:39 Vivax wrote:
Current status of reads. Reasoning pending, but ask me about a specific one if you want me to explain it first:
Townies: Koshi, Djagu, Cava, thrawn, (~Kush fwiw)
Today's lynch candidates (by PoE and cause there is some stuff I don't like): FT, Omni, OTW, OO, mderg
Also HI GUYS =D . Rejoice that you got me and not that crazy grush fac-simile This list? FT I feel like I've always had a hard time getting a read on. I know in the past I've always felt he was scummy and it was based on activity at the time. Given his relative activity to this game it can't really be used against him. Reading Omni's filter last night put me into a comatose state trying to make sense of it. His style seems to be part conversational, part POE, which I think makes him more likely to be town than scum, but he's taken a hard line defending borderline-at-the-time mderg which I don't understand the reason for. Don't really care for the summary-nature of his read on thrawn because it doesn't really come to a solid conclusion, yet that's where his vote lands. On April 16 2014 23:23 OmniEulogy wrote:
his vote on mderg is scummy imo, his accusations considering his entire filter comes down to policy lynching Slam and lynching mderg, and then his conversation with Koshi about Kush where he only votes for kush after you do Skan. It just seems like the only thing he does is try to find a SAFE place to put his vote. Interesting choice of words; safe place to put a vote. Interesting because somehow he's created a situation where that's what he's done. Putting his vote in a safe place (on someone who he perceived as someone putting their vote somewhere safe) SAFE-CEPTION? OTW seems to be adjusting to how games play here, not sure yet on his alignment. Gut would say town but since he's new here I don't know how to tell for certain yet. I already bought up the potential culture clash which he hasn't responded to yet, if it even merited a response. mderg is part of my filter alreadyHow are you so confident on your town reads on cav and djag? I've bolded it for you but this is his first mention of mderg and it's more to attack me while saying mderg is neutral and then brushes it off to continue attacking me. Pretty confident mderg is scum and Vivax to follow. Did you read his filter at all?
sorry sorry, I had hit all but it stuck with page 2 for some reason.
He pressure votes you and takes it off asap and says you have a very insightful post before that. my bad. but his reason to vote you is extremely weak and he never follows it up with anything else and it looks like he just forgot that he voted for you entirely.
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On April 23 2014 08:15 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2014 08:07 mderg wrote:On April 23 2014 08:00 OmniEulogy wrote:OO never directly mentioned Vivax, only answered questions while trying to lynch FT or Thrawn. Also "mderg is part of my filter already" from OO. mderg actually isn't mentioned in his filter before this. Why lie about something like that? On April 17 2014 07:18 ObviousOne wrote:On April 17 2014 04:39 Vivax wrote:
Current status of reads. Reasoning pending, but ask me about a specific one if you want me to explain it first:
Townies: Koshi, Djagu, Cava, thrawn, (~Kush fwiw)
Today's lynch candidates (by PoE and cause there is some stuff I don't like): FT, Omni, OTW, OO, mderg
Also HI GUYS =D . Rejoice that you got me and not that crazy grush fac-simile This list? FT I feel like I've always had a hard time getting a read on. I know in the past I've always felt he was scummy and it was based on activity at the time. Given his relative activity to this game it can't really be used against him. Reading Omni's filter last night put me into a comatose state trying to make sense of it. His style seems to be part conversational, part POE, which I think makes him more likely to be town than scum, but he's taken a hard line defending borderline-at-the-time mderg which I don't understand the reason for. Don't really care for the summary-nature of his read on thrawn because it doesn't really come to a solid conclusion, yet that's where his vote lands. On April 16 2014 23:23 OmniEulogy wrote:
his vote on mderg is scummy imo, his accusations considering his entire filter comes down to policy lynching Slam and lynching mderg, and then his conversation with Koshi about Kush where he only votes for kush after you do Skan. It just seems like the only thing he does is try to find a SAFE place to put his vote. Interesting choice of words; safe place to put a vote. Interesting because somehow he's created a situation where that's what he's done. Putting his vote in a safe place (on someone who he perceived as someone putting their vote somewhere safe) SAFE-CEPTION? OTW seems to be adjusting to how games play here, not sure yet on his alignment. Gut would say town but since he's new here I don't know how to tell for certain yet. I already bought up the potential culture clash which he hasn't responded to yet, if it even merited a response. mderg is part of my filter alreadyHow are you so confident on your town reads on cav and djag? I've bolded it for you but this is his first mention of mderg and it's more to attack me while saying mderg is neutral and then brushes it off to continue attacking me. Pretty confident mderg is scum and Vivax to follow. Did you read his filter at all? sorry sorry, I had hit all but it stuck with page 2 for some reason. He pressure votes you and takes it off asap and says you have a very insightful post before that. my bad. but his reason to vote you is extremely weak and he never follows it up with anything else and it looks like he just forgot that he voted for you entirely.
That I can almost agree with. His reason for voting me was bad, the insightful post he meant wasn´t insightful (just some thoughts on the topics being discussed, nothing special at all). I don´t see him forgetting about having voted for me, though. In general he was against me the whole game.
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Mderg what do you think of my analysis on skanja?
Do you scumread kush or what else do you mean by this:
kush: I kinda agree on him but my focus would be more on him just posting reads left and right the last pages, without giving any clear line of thought.
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On April 23 2014 08:23 Vivax wrote:Mderg what do you think of my analysis on skanja? Do you scumread kush or what else do you mean by this: Show nested quote +kush: I kinda agree on him but my focus would be more on him just posting reads left and right the last pages, without giving any clear line of thought.
You mean this post about skanjab?
On April 23 2014 07:45 Vivax wrote:Mderg I think the reasons skanja gave us for suspecting FT are legit, I would have suspected FT myself for the same reasons. There's just this doubt nagging at the back of my head that he's pro scum and made up that mistake on purpose but for today I'm not lynching him cause I liked our conversation. Also checking his games he never rolled scum in the 4 or 5 of them. FT so-hosted a game where skanja was town so there's that, confirmed truthful argument. And neither might I be lynching Kush IF HE EXPLAINS WHY HE SUDDENLY TOWNREADS ME. Cause in my experience scumkush doesn't townread his main scumread out of the blue, he didn't in Dr Who, but I want to know if it's serious and has a reason, cause else I'll just assume it was bullshitting. Show nested quote + I don't like how he's skipped over me on the basis that I town read him though, that seems like a strange thing to do for someone in the dark on alignments I townread you for other reasons, but now I'm not so sure if they're valid anymore cause there's you and mderg, and maybe kush left as possible scum. That post was just a way of copying what kush did and see how thrawn reacts. Conclusion drawn: Tunneled as fuck, put on ignore. The "angry lines" were me thinking it was deadline day already. Tired gaming. Show nested quote +
He also was set on vivax being scum but then out of the blue started calling him town after posts that were in my eyes, questionable. He seems to be playing the game backwards.
Now that you're at this I would like you to tell me what was questionable about my posts, and have a chat about it with kush to see why you get to different conclusions.
If so, I don´t really agree. The reasons for suspecting ft may be legit in a way but if he´s scum, he could also find the same reasons for voting ft. You liking the conversation between you two is too vague for me. I don´t see why you would refrain from voting him just based on that.
Regarding kush I already said that he and otw are my suspects for the last scum.
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