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OneThousandWords
Profile Joined April 2014
Barbados123 Posts
April 20 2014 21:51 GMT
#1201
Hard defenses mean nothing. Like I said it's your overarching play that makes you scummy. Defending mderg is regardless of mderg's alignment.
Pictures speak a thousand words!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 20 2014 21:53 GMT
#1202
The good news is I can just link my scumgames to you then.
I had a good night of sleep.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
April 20 2014 22:07 GMT
#1203
On April 21 2014 03:32 OneThousandWords wrote:

mderg

Mderg IMO is scummy. There isn't much stuff on his filter to go on and it seems to be like he has just been skating on through the game, mainly, he seems to have very little interaction to do with the day 1 lynch and his contribution to lynch actual scum (ObviousOne) does not exist. In fact, he voted Skanjab1s instead. His first post was contentless and summed up things that pretty much everyone had already said and then after quite some time of waiting and accusations being thrown around his second post does not really address much in the game at all and just consists of him answering randomq questions. He has weird pushes on Djagu (confirmed blue) for playing "the newbie card" but says it in a way in which it was not used (koshi? pointed this out) and then flits to trying to get the claimed vigilante lynched. In my mind I treated this guy as a confirmed vigilante, however, now that the actual vigilante has come out this puts all his accusations into incredibly suspicious territory. I've PoE'd the scum team to Skanjab1s and Mderg and I know this initially looks strange and I feel extremely aprehensive in doing so after making a connection theory with Thrawn and Cavalinho on day 1 but there is something off about the way Mder fought with Skanjab1s that just didn't seem natural. He pushes him for a long time of day 1 but then drops it altogether to lynch FirmTofu for reasons that are sheeped from other people. His interactions with ObviousOne are also very mediocre and no suspicion is raised about him. Then suddenly after having little to 0 participation in the day 1 lynch at night after everyone and their mothers starts calling ObviousOne scummy mderg says: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447645-normal-ass-normal-game?page=48#956. This on it's own is not that bad BUT there was the post the NEXT DAY that does not compare with this:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2014 00:45 mderg wrote:
He is a bit scummy. But there have also been some posts that put some doubts about that in my mind.


After saying that he agrees that ObviousOne is scum he says he has doubts (which he didn't mention in the night) and then quickly corrects that afterwards to say he has a scum read on ObviousOne (but still never votes for him over Skanjab1s).

I think Skanjab1s is truly busy and just told his team to lynch him and mderg took this to the next level and has been pushing him all game to look good for when he flips. His interactions with ObviousOne are strange and his read is not maintained through the game (in little space of time). I think mderg is scum.


I kinda feel the need to respond to this.
Regarding the thing about not contributing to lynch OO I´d like to say that even though I was unsure about him being scum I changed my mind immediately after going through his filter. Finding someone scummy but also having doubts about is is also very possible as townie. In the end I still voted for Skanjab since he was even scummier to me, wouldn´t you also vote your #1 scumread over your #2 scumread?
Regarding the Djagu push I can only say that it never happened. That was someone else.
My FirmTofu read wasn´t sheeped from other people. I was even the 1st/2nd guy voting for him depending on if you take cav voting in this thread as the first vote.
Also the whole association read with me and Skanjab is just based on assumptions. Namely the last paragraph about me.
OneThousandWords
Profile Joined April 2014
Barbados123 Posts
April 20 2014 22:22 GMT
#1204
On April 21 2014 07:07 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 03:32 OneThousandWords wrote:

mderg

Mderg IMO is scummy. There isn't much stuff on his filter to go on and it seems to be like he has just been skating on through the game, mainly, he seems to have very little interaction to do with the day 1 lynch and his contribution to lynch actual scum (ObviousOne) does not exist. In fact, he voted Skanjab1s instead. His first post was contentless and summed up things that pretty much everyone had already said and then after quite some time of waiting and accusations being thrown around his second post does not really address much in the game at all and just consists of him answering randomq questions. He has weird pushes on Djagu (confirmed blue) for playing "the newbie card" but says it in a way in which it was not used (koshi? pointed this out) and then flits to trying to get the claimed vigilante lynched. In my mind I treated this guy as a confirmed vigilante, however, now that the actual vigilante has come out this puts all his accusations into incredibly suspicious territory. I've PoE'd the scum team to Skanjab1s and Mderg and I know this initially looks strange and I feel extremely aprehensive in doing so after making a connection theory with Thrawn and Cavalinho on day 1 but there is something off about the way Mder fought with Skanjab1s that just didn't seem natural. He pushes him for a long time of day 1 but then drops it altogether to lynch FirmTofu for reasons that are sheeped from other people. His interactions with ObviousOne are also very mediocre and no suspicion is raised about him. Then suddenly after having little to 0 participation in the day 1 lynch at night after everyone and their mothers starts calling ObviousOne scummy mderg says: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447645-normal-ass-normal-game?page=48#956. This on it's own is not that bad BUT there was the post the NEXT DAY that does not compare with this:
On April 19 2014 00:45 mderg wrote:
He is a bit scummy. But there have also been some posts that put some doubts about that in my mind.


After saying that he agrees that ObviousOne is scum he says he has doubts (which he didn't mention in the night) and then quickly corrects that afterwards to say he has a scum read on ObviousOne (but still never votes for him over Skanjab1s).

I think Skanjab1s is truly busy and just told his team to lynch him and mderg took this to the next level and has been pushing him all game to look good for when he flips. His interactions with ObviousOne are strange and his read is not maintained through the game (in little space of time). I think mderg is scum.


I kinda feel the need to respond to this.
Regarding the thing about not contributing to lynch OO I´d like to say that even though I was unsure about him being scum I changed my mind immediately after going through his filter. Finding someone scummy but also having doubts about is is also very possible as townie. In the end I still voted for Skanjab since he was even scummier to me, wouldn´t you also vote your #1 scumread over your #2 scumread?
Regarding the Djagu push I can only say that it never happened. That was someone else.
My FirmTofu read wasn´t sheeped from other people. I was even the 1st/2nd guy voting for him depending on if you take cav voting in this thread as the first vote.
Also the whole association read with me and Skanjab is just based on assumptions. Namely the last paragraph about me.


Sorry yes you're right. The djagu thing was omni, I just had a lot of filters open at a time and your name was next to his. As for the rest, I posted on night 1 about ObviousOne and you quite clearly said "yes I think we all agree he is scum" but on day 2 you were showing that you didn't actually think that after all as your initial read was not so scummy until you rechecked the filter! So that does not add up at all!


You spend the ENTIRE day talking to skanjabs and you post 1 relevant post towards a FirmTofu/Cavalinho day lynch and it's just agreeing with other people's reasons to lynch FirmTofu and then you never return.
Pictures speak a thousand words!
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
April 20 2014 22:32 GMT
#1205
On April 21 2014 07:22 OneThousandWords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 07:07 mderg wrote:
On April 21 2014 03:32 OneThousandWords wrote:

mderg

Mderg IMO is scummy. There isn't much stuff on his filter to go on and it seems to be like he has just been skating on through the game, mainly, he seems to have very little interaction to do with the day 1 lynch and his contribution to lynch actual scum (ObviousOne) does not exist. In fact, he voted Skanjab1s instead. His first post was contentless and summed up things that pretty much everyone had already said and then after quite some time of waiting and accusations being thrown around his second post does not really address much in the game at all and just consists of him answering randomq questions. He has weird pushes on Djagu (confirmed blue) for playing "the newbie card" but says it in a way in which it was not used (koshi? pointed this out) and then flits to trying to get the claimed vigilante lynched. In my mind I treated this guy as a confirmed vigilante, however, now that the actual vigilante has come out this puts all his accusations into incredibly suspicious territory. I've PoE'd the scum team to Skanjab1s and Mderg and I know this initially looks strange and I feel extremely aprehensive in doing so after making a connection theory with Thrawn and Cavalinho on day 1 but there is something off about the way Mder fought with Skanjab1s that just didn't seem natural. He pushes him for a long time of day 1 but then drops it altogether to lynch FirmTofu for reasons that are sheeped from other people. His interactions with ObviousOne are also very mediocre and no suspicion is raised about him. Then suddenly after having little to 0 participation in the day 1 lynch at night after everyone and their mothers starts calling ObviousOne scummy mderg says: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447645-normal-ass-normal-game?page=48#956. This on it's own is not that bad BUT there was the post the NEXT DAY that does not compare with this:
On April 19 2014 00:45 mderg wrote:
He is a bit scummy. But there have also been some posts that put some doubts about that in my mind.


After saying that he agrees that ObviousOne is scum he says he has doubts (which he didn't mention in the night) and then quickly corrects that afterwards to say he has a scum read on ObviousOne (but still never votes for him over Skanjab1s).

I think Skanjab1s is truly busy and just told his team to lynch him and mderg took this to the next level and has been pushing him all game to look good for when he flips. His interactions with ObviousOne are strange and his read is not maintained through the game (in little space of time). I think mderg is scum.


I kinda feel the need to respond to this.
Regarding the thing about not contributing to lynch OO I´d like to say that even though I was unsure about him being scum I changed my mind immediately after going through his filter. Finding someone scummy but also having doubts about is is also very possible as townie. In the end I still voted for Skanjab since he was even scummier to me, wouldn´t you also vote your #1 scumread over your #2 scumread?
Regarding the Djagu push I can only say that it never happened. That was someone else.
My FirmTofu read wasn´t sheeped from other people. I was even the 1st/2nd guy voting for him depending on if you take cav voting in this thread as the first vote.
Also the whole association read with me and Skanjab is just based on assumptions. Namely the last paragraph about me.


Sorry yes you're right. The djagu thing was omni, I just had a lot of filters open at a time and your name was next to his. As for the rest, I posted on night 1 about ObviousOne and you quite clearly said "yes I think we all agree he is scum" but on day 2 you were showing that you didn't actually think that after all as your initial read was not so scummy until you rechecked the filter! So that does not add up at all!


You spend the ENTIRE day talking to skanjabs and you post 1 relevant post towards a FirmTofu/Cavalinho day lynch and it's just agreeing with other people's reasons to lynch FirmTofu and then you never return.

Was my wording that bad? I didn´t mean to say that he was scum on night 1 just that his behavior was a bit scummy. I was never 100% sure that he was scum.

I actually don´t see my vote on FirmTofu as just agreeing with others. You could have left the "never return" part out because that´s basically saying that you don´t believe me having to sleep at that time.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 21 2014 00:30 GMT
#1206
On April 21 2014 04:56 Koshi wrote:
Vivax dies.

Then we see what happens in lylo.


My advice to town.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 21 2014 00:31 GMT
#1207
Skanjab is also fine. But I would start with Vivax.
I had a good night of sleep.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 21 2014 01:09 GMT
#1208
dw koshi. kush and i know you are townie and they cant kill both of us
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 21 2014 01:29 GMT
#1209
I am not worried.

want to share your reads?
I had a good night of sleep.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
April 21 2014 01:38 GMT
#1210
our town circle this game is so strong
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 21 2014 01:42 GMT
#1211
i dont really have any right now

everyone that isn't kush/koshi are about the same level of scuminess and I could lynch any of them. hopefully we will know more after the deadline.

skan/vivax are who i most want to lynch.

i have no idea how to read OTW and i still don't see why mderg is so scummy
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
OneThousandWords
Profile Joined April 2014
Barbados123 Posts
April 21 2014 01:46 GMT
#1212
On April 21 2014 10:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
i dont really have any right now

everyone that isn't kush/koshi are about the same level of scuminess and I could lynch any of them. hopefully we will know more after the deadline.

skan/vivax are who i most want to lynch.

i have no idea how to read OTW and i still don't see why mderg is so scummy


Well I've never rolled scum in all 2 of the forum mafia games I've played so that's a start!

Can someone explain the vivax lynch because he looks really towny from his filter and koshi brought up that he was scum based on one really small point and seems to be super certain of it all of a sudden. I still don't understand because he never elaborated.
Pictures speak a thousand words!
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 21 2014 01:49 GMT
#1213
On April 21 2014 10:46 OneThousandWords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 10:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
i dont really have any right now

everyone that isn't kush/koshi are about the same level of scuminess and I could lynch any of them. hopefully we will know more after the deadline.

skan/vivax are who i most want to lynch.

i have no idea how to read OTW and i still don't see why mderg is so scummy


Well I've never rolled scum in all 2 of the forum mafia games I've played so that's a start!

Can someone explain the vivax lynch because he looks really towny from his filter and koshi brought up that he was scum based on one really small point and seems to be super certain of it all of a sudden. I still don't understand because he never elaborated.


what has vivax done this game? the only memorable thing was loudly protesting the cavalinho lynch.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 21 2014 01:49 GMT
#1214
ok. i'm gonna go on record saying i think OTW is town.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
OneThousandWords
Profile Joined April 2014
Barbados123 Posts
April 21 2014 02:00 GMT
#1215
On April 21 2014 10:49 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 10:46 OneThousandWords wrote:
On April 21 2014 10:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
i dont really have any right now

everyone that isn't kush/koshi are about the same level of scuminess and I could lynch any of them. hopefully we will know more after the deadline.

skan/vivax are who i most want to lynch.

i have no idea how to read OTW and i still don't see why mderg is so scummy


Well I've never rolled scum in all 2 of the forum mafia games I've played so that's a start!

Can someone explain the vivax lynch because he looks really towny from his filter and koshi brought up that he was scum based on one really small point and seems to be super certain of it all of a sudden. I still don't understand because he never elaborated.


what has vivax done this game? the only memorable thing was loudly protesting the cavalinho lynch.


I wrote about it in my long post.
Pictures speak a thousand words!
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 21 2014 02:04 GMT
#1216
why does D1 lynch being town vs town make vivax townie? why is it so unlikely that a scum would defend one townie while trying to lynch another one?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 21 2014 02:07 GMT
#1217
Nha D1 lynch was pretty wp by Vivax. The fact he tried to do it again out of the blue for the D2 lynch was scummy.
I had a good night of sleep.
OneThousandWords
Profile Joined April 2014
Barbados123 Posts
April 21 2014 02:09 GMT
#1218
On April 21 2014 11:04 thrawn2112 wrote:
why does D1 lynch being town vs town make vivax townie? why is it so unlikely that a scum would defend one townie while trying to lynch another one?


It was his progression of posts that looked like natural suspicion onto tofu and rather than defending a player outright he was trying to get people to discuss and post their reasons for lynching Cavalinho etc as well which seemed like an incredibly towny thing to do seeing as people blindly went with it while disagreeing with parts of the only case made on him (by kush).

I guess it can be faked but I'm not so sure it would look that genuine if made by mafia? Maybe I'm biased by who I think is mafia I don't know.

Why do you think koshi is town? Have you reread his filter?
Pictures speak a thousand words!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 21 2014 02:11 GMT
#1219
On April 21 2014 10:46 OneThousandWords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 10:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
i dont really have any right now

everyone that isn't kush/koshi are about the same level of scuminess and I could lynch any of them. hopefully we will know more after the deadline.

skan/vivax are who i most want to lynch.

i have no idea how to read OTW and i still don't see why mderg is so scummy


Well I've never rolled scum in all 2 of the forum mafia games I've played so that's a start!

Can someone explain the vivax lynch because he looks really towny from his filter and koshi brought up that he was scum based on one really small point and seems to be super certain of it all of a sudden. I still don't understand because he never elaborated.

Vivax is a pretty good player, so I expect that he knows who is scum by now. Or at least has a couple names. Just like yourself, you think it is Mderg/Koshi/Skanjab.

But Vivax in response of Kush made it quite obvious he didn't have a clue who to push. That's extremely scummy because as scum you don't have a "scumhunting storyline" or you don't really feel who you got to push because you are playing reactionary to the thread.

So when Kush had Vivax as 4th scum. Vivax made a problem of this. This means that Vivax doesn't think that the scummers were with the first 3. But a couple minutes later Vivax even claimed he had Kush as scum. So that's 4 scummers right there. So who the fuck does Vivax think is scum?

Vivax doesn't know who is scum. Vivax is scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 21 2014 02:12 GMT
#1220
koshi is town because town circles are OP. all game long the noobs have tried to bring us down but we have prevailed, the OO lynch has cemented the fact that kush/koshi and I all know each other is town

I know that's a bitch answer, but my read on koshi can only really make sense to me.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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