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On April 17 2014 09:07 thrawn2112 wrote: ok lets lynch firmtofu. his scumread on OTW is a defense of me.... his knowledge of my alignment is his basis for attacking OTW Yes, it is a defense of you. How did you jump to the conclusion that I somehow know your alignment? Plenty of people have placed you in the town category. How am I any different? Also, I find OTW scummy as of right now. I don't know if I would call that a scumread just yet. | ||
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On April 17 2014 09:57 thrawn2112 wrote: Who do you want to lynch? Your vote is on OTW but you just said you don;t know if you have a real scumread on him yet. Yeah, I'm looking for better targets right now. I'll get back to you on that. I'd like to lynch into OTW/OE/OO/Dja/Cavalinho as of right now, though. | ||
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On April 17 2014 04:43 FirmTofu wrote: I'll address your points in order. A) It lets people appear to be contributing. Yes, what thrawn did was a good way to appear like he was contributing. However, everything he said in that quote was absolutely true. mderg's post was useless and served no purpose. I wouldn't hold this point against thrawn. B) If worded differently but similar it enables people to pocket the other people that made the original case because they have seemingly similar reads. IF? Why are you speaking in hypotheticals? It wasn't worded differently, so why are you bringing up a scenario in which it would be? This is an exercise in pointlessness. C) To the people that didn't read it they are fooled into believing it is original content. What does this have to do with anything? If other people didn't read it, how does it make thrawn look more guilty? In sum, your case is awful and you look far worse for having made it. Did you agree with what I said? Consider the case in isolation, before I commented on it. | ||
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@Vivax Why must you ignore me so? | ||
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On April 17 2014 10:07 kushm4sta wrote: why aren't we lynching cavalinho? why are people townreading that guy? What are some good games of him I can look at? I feel like his meta could help me decide on him. | ||
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On April 17 2014 10:19 thrawn2112 wrote: yeah I agree that I'm town. i dont really understand the question Nono, I'm asking whether OTW's case on you makes any logical sense to you. Assume for a second that you are a third party observer and you are reading this post as if you didn't know your own alignment. Do my points make sense to you when you do that? Personally, I was completely lost when reading that case and I felt I had to address it for its poor structure and reasoning. If you would have felt the same way as a third-party observer, then your vote on me makes no sense to me. | ||
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On April 17 2014 10:20 Vivax wrote: [truncated] PoE mostly and the posts or playstyle which didn't make me add them to the townie list. Also posted some stuff on OTW previously, I think you missed that cause it would answer half of your question. As for the other half, OmniEulogy, my conclusion is right above this post. You're encouraged to post your opinion, especially since you're not cleared in my book and the "Oh look Vivax is ignoring me, hmmm, interesting" doesn't make you look much better. Do you think I could be scum? Also answer me this: The reason you think OTW could be scum is that his case on thrawn looks bad as far as I can gain from your filter. How do you discern if it's a bad townie making it or scum? Cause that case alone isn't enough of an argument, so how did you conclude scum? My arguments for him being possible scum were different. Not really considering you as scum just yet. I just wanted to hear from you. I like this case on OE. I think OTW is scummy for a variety of different, small reasons. His attitude has been generally defensive, his responses to your questions were less than impressive, and his vote on me is pure OMGUS. I don't have a case on him yet, persay, but I wouldn't mind lynching him, that much is certain. | ||
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On April 17 2014 10:33 thrawn2112 wrote: I cant read it as a third party observer because I know I'm town and I know what my motivations have been behind all those posts. So I'm already biased to townread myself. But I'll pretend I don't know that, Do I think his case is stupid? Yes. But it's the kind of case that I'm used to seeing posted whenever I play the spammy and loose town style that I'm playing this game. I know that I jump around a lot and some people are hardwired to think that's scummy. Back when I first started playing I wouls always get mislynched because of cases like the one OTW made, people accused me of having too many targets, of opputunistic voting, of having incoherent reads and chaning my mind too often, all that kind of stuff. The problem is that your super strong townread on me seems to be the only reason you scumread OTW. And that indicates that you're scum, making an easy case on OTW because you know that I'm town so it's easy for you to shit all over OTW's case. Why would scum me defend you? If I were scum, I would avoid defending people because of this exact thought process that townies generally have. Also, I wouldn't want to encourage confirmed townies. If I was scum(assuming you are town), I'd be doing my best to make sure you don't become "confirmed" town. I also never made a case on OTW, I just voted him and discredited his case on you. | ||
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On April 17 2014 10:41 thrawn2112 wrote: You didn't explicity defend me. In fact you never really stated that I was town. Me being town was more of an assumption you seemed to make. It's not like you were trying to stick up for me or anything, your main agenda with that post was to express that you thought OTW's case against me was scummy. Anyways, this conversation is getting a bit repetitive, I think it'd be more useful for you to figure out who you want to lynch. Fair enough, I agree. | ||
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OE, give me a few scumreads. Work with me here and we'll figure out where you stand. | ||
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Didn't he say that he finds mderg scummy too, just not as much as me? | ||
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The problem with the mderg argument is that he could just simply find me more scummy than mderg and just not know how to express himself, as he is relatively new to the game. I think your meta argument is stronger after looking at the newbie game. He seems a lot more analytical in that game and his playstyle in this game is starkly different. Also, he seems to be capable of good play there, indicating that your previous argument holds more water. I think I could vote Cava/OE as of right now. OTW is also a valid choice. @OE Do you have any scumreads for me yet? | ||
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On April 17 2014 11:04 thrawn2112 wrote: hey FT you need to give your full read on OTW. And if you aren't convinced he's scum then you need to explain what you're thinking about doing with your vote. My full read has already been given. I'm leaning scum on him because of his bad case, his overly defensive behavior, and his OMGUS bandwagon vote on me. He hasn't done anything of value, so as far as I'm concerned he's a good lynch. | ||
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