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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
April 04 2014 08:28 GMT
#1781
On April 03 2014 20:28 Tehpoofter wrote:
@those awake currently what are your thoughts on Oats/ WoS?

This looks strange given that Oats is/was one of your strongest town reads. What were you hoping to gain from asking this question?

Robik: As I understand it, you are a bit more familiar with tehpoofter's play. He understandably was fixated on you early on, but hasn't really been doing anything since then besides asking, from my perspective, unfocused questions. On the other hand, he seems carefree; what do you think?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 04 2014 08:32 GMT
#1782
On April 04 2014 17:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
WHAT??!?!?!

Somewhere it is true that marv with big filter is town.
BUT
He doesn't want to have a big filter as town anymore. So why is he having a big filter now? Also filter is lacking imo. Iirc from shadw game scum marv is more +1ish as scum. With 1-2 decent ideas between it but he doesn't weigh on the thread as much as when he is town. However, it's a big game so I can wait a while.

Are you upset I called you scum and I am now taking advice from you? Because. I can.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 04 2014 08:33 GMT
#1783
syllo, Foolish says you are scum.
Agree?
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 04 2014 08:36 GMT
#1784
On April 04 2014 17:01 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 16:59 syllogism wrote:
On April 04 2014 16:54 Koshi wrote:
Should I kill marv.

No. Even if you suspect him, he is someone whose alignment will be abundantly clear after, at the latest, a few night of flips.

To me it is quite clear already.


i'm with you bro
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 04 2014 08:36 GMT
#1785
On April 04 2014 17:32 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 17:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
WHAT??!?!?!

Somewhere it is true that marv with big filter is town.
BUT
He doesn't want to have a big filter as town anymore. So why is he having a big filter now? Also filter is lacking imo. Iirc from shadw game scum marv is more +1ish as scum. With 1-2 decent ideas between it but he doesn't weigh on the thread as much as when he is town. However, it's a big game so I can wait a while.

Are you upset I called you scum and I am now taking advice from you? Because. I can.

no, I dont think hes town because of massive filter. Marv is town because he wouldnt look so shit as scum. No way. Look at Shadow, he looks so super town day 1.
No gg, No skill.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 04 2014 08:37 GMT
#1786
On April 04 2014 17:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 17:32 Koshi wrote:
On April 04 2014 17:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
WHAT??!?!?!

Somewhere it is true that marv with big filter is town.
BUT
He doesn't want to have a big filter as town anymore. So why is he having a big filter now? Also filter is lacking imo. Iirc from shadw game scum marv is more +1ish as scum. With 1-2 decent ideas between it but he doesn't weigh on the thread as much as when he is town. However, it's a big game so I can wait a while.

Are you upset I called you scum and I am now taking advice from you? Because. I can.

no, I dont think hes town because of massive filter. Marv is town because he wouldnt look so shit as scum. No way. Look at Shadow, he looks so super town day 1.

Why would he look shit as town? Can you pinpoint me to a game he looks like shit as town?
I had a good night of sleep.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 04 2014 08:39 GMT
#1787
On April 04 2014 17:37 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 17:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 17:32 Koshi wrote:
On April 04 2014 17:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
WHAT??!?!?!

Somewhere it is true that marv with big filter is town.
BUT
He doesn't want to have a big filter as town anymore. So why is he having a big filter now? Also filter is lacking imo. Iirc from shadw game scum marv is more +1ish as scum. With 1-2 decent ideas between it but he doesn't weigh on the thread as much as when he is town. However, it's a big game so I can wait a while.

Are you upset I called you scum and I am now taking advice from you? Because. I can.

no, I dont think hes town because of massive filter. Marv is town because he wouldnt look so shit as scum. No way. Look at Shadow, he looks so super town day 1.

Why would he look shit as town? Can you pinpoint me to a game he looks like shit as town?

How about every day 1 from like 3-6 months ago?
No gg, No skill.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 04 2014 08:40 GMT
#1788
On April 04 2014 17:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 17:37 Koshi wrote:
On April 04 2014 17:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 17:32 Koshi wrote:
On April 04 2014 17:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
WHAT??!?!?!

Somewhere it is true that marv with big filter is town.
BUT
He doesn't want to have a big filter as town anymore. So why is he having a big filter now? Also filter is lacking imo. Iirc from shadw game scum marv is more +1ish as scum. With 1-2 decent ideas between it but he doesn't weigh on the thread as much as when he is town. However, it's a big game so I can wait a while.

Are you upset I called you scum and I am now taking advice from you? Because. I can.

no, I dont think hes town because of massive filter. Marv is town because he wouldnt look so shit as scum. No way. Look at Shadow, he looks so super town day 1.

Why would he look shit as town? Can you pinpoint me to a game he looks like shit as town?

How about every day 1 from like 3-6 months ago?

6-9 months ago and I agree that he was not so impressive back then d1.
I had a good night of sleep.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 04 2014 08:43 GMT
#1789
Yeah something like that.

Anyway his philosophy is that he doesnt give a shit as town and plays/sheeps and all that but is very sensitive about someone calling him scum. As scum, he plays a lot cleaner, looks better and therefore doesnt go totally OMGUS on people who call him scum.

So Koshi, who else is scum and why?
No gg, No skill.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 04 2014 08:43 GMT
#1790
marv did get older recently. Maybe he is just can't keep up anymore.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 04 2014 08:43 GMT
#1791
marv is sheeping sandro on a me lynch, someone he didn't want to lynch straight away in the past few games, someone who can obviously be read as town if i post more because what? i was trolling around with palmar?

i've openly trolled the start of almost all of the past few games and marv knows that but only in this game has marv even bothered to comment about it and used it against me! he neglects to read anything else i've said too and only brings me up again when someone shows interest in my lynch
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 04 2014 08:44 GMT
#1792
On April 04 2014 17:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah something like that.

Anyway his philosophy is that he doesnt give a shit as town and plays/sheeps and all that but is very sensitive about someone calling him scum. As scum, he plays a lot cleaner, looks better and therefore doesnt go totally OMGUS on people who call him scum.

So Koshi, who else is scum and why?

0 clues. Really. I have not much interest to think too much.
But I am at work and I just can't stay away from this thread. So point me to a target.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 04 2014 08:45 GMT
#1793
this is increasingly more odd when palmar is in the SAME boat as me, yet actively trolling EVEN MORE and has marv in his scum pile yet it's perfectly ok for marv to not even bother thinking about palmar till later
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 04 2014 08:53 GMT
#1794
Holyflare bro. I can kill the marv. But in the most antitown way possible.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 04 2014 08:53 GMT
#1795
On April 04 2014 15:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
So I read iamp's filter. Not so sure he's town anymore and would lynch with Foolishness pending reading Holyflare's filter. I'm sheeping today boys, show me ur cases.

no, there is 0% chance we lynch iamperfection today.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
April 04 2014 08:54 GMT
#1796
Catastrophic vote count:

IAmRobik (0): Palmar
iamperfection (1): Foolishness
Holyflare (4): sandroba, marvellosity, Dandel Ion, yamato77
LSB (0): VisceraEyes
Paperscraps (2): Blazinghand, marvellosity, Amiko
yamato77 (2): Holyflare, LSB
kitaman27 (1): Dandel Ion, Palmar
VisceraEyes (0): Palmar
VayneAuthority (2): VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster
gumshoe (0): kitaman27
Dandel Ion (1): kitaman27
Blazinghand (2): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, Palmar, Paperscraps, Dandel Ion, WaveofShadow
marvellosity (2): Palmar, Koshi, Koshi, Paperscraps

Not voting (12): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Hopeless1der, Tehpoofter, strongandbig, Killing, syllogism, justanothertownie, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi

Currently no one is set to be lynched. With 29 alive it takes 15 to reach majority.
Deadline is Saturday, Apr 05 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ).


+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +

VOTE: Palmar voted VisceraEyes (post)
VOTE: Palmar unvoted VisceraEyes (post)
VOTE: Palmar voted IAmRobik (post)
VOTE: iamperfection voted BALLA (Blazinghand) (post)
VOTE: VisceraEyes voted LSB (post)
VOTE: Oatsmaster voted Balla (Blazinghand) (post)
VOTE: Dandel Ion voted kitaman (kitaman27) (post)
VOTE: Holyflare voted yamato77 (post)
WARNING: Palmar changed vote without unvote (post)
VOTE: Palmar unvoted IAmRobik (post)
VOTE: Palmar voted Balla (Blazinghand) (post)
VOTE: Palmar unvoted Blazinghand (post)
VOTE: Palmar voted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: LSB voted Yamato77 (yamato77) (post)
VOTE: Paperscraps voted Balla24(Blazinghand) (Blazinghand) (post)
VOTE: Blazinghand voted paperscraps (Paperscraps) (post)
VOTE: Dandel Ion unvoted kitaman27 (post)
VOTE: Dandel Ion voted blazing24hands (Blazinghand) (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted paperscraps (Paperscraps) (post)
VOTE: WaveofShadow voted Blazinghand (post)
VOTE: Amiko voted paperscraps (Paperscraps) (post)
VOTE: Koshi voted marvellosity (post)
WARNING: Koshi changed vote without unvote (post)
VOTE: Koshi unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: Koshi voted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: kitaman27 voted Gumshoe (gumshoe) (post)
VOTE: Paperscraps unvoted Blazinghand (post)
VOTE: Paperscraps voted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: Palmar unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: Palmar voted kitaman27 (post)
VOTE: kitaman27 unvoted gumshoe (post)
VOTE: kitaman27 voted Dandel Ion (post)
VOTE: sandroba voted HolyFlare (Holyflare) (post)
VOTE: marvellosity unvoted Paperscraps (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted Holyflare (post)
VOTE: Dandel Ion unvoted Blazinghand (post)
VOTE: Dandel Ion voted holyflare (Holyflare) (post)
VOTE: VisceraEyes unvoted LSB (post)
VOTE: VisceraEyes voted VayneAuthority (post)
VOTE: Foolishness voted iamperfection (post)
VOTE: yamato77 voted holyflare (Holyflare) (post)
VOTE: Oatsmaster unvoted Blazinghand (post)
VOTE: Oatsmaster voted Vayne (VayneAuthority) (post)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 04 2014 08:54 GMT
#1797
I also mentioned something about dandel yesterday before I left, his stance on yamato is that yamato is super scum but he shows no initiative or drive to even portray this to the thread other than +1ing people that go against yamato.

On April 03 2014 09:53 Dandel Ion wrote:
yamato hard confirmed mafia, 100% accurate pro read.

(probably a joke but not joke)
On April 03 2014 09:55 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 09:54 iamperfection wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:53 Dandel Ion wrote:
yamato hard confirmed mafia, 100% accurate pro read.

Why

Because he's being disruptive.

Which means he's scum.

ez game ez life.



Like how it is part of why yamato is scum, but doesn't make iamp scum. It is in no way treated as the sole crux of reading.

On April 04 2014 01:06 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 01:04 Holyflare wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:51 yamato77 wrote:
Dandel's post makes me want to kill him, too.

Rayn's reads are shitty because there's no reason to go "YEP HE'S TOWN" 5 minutes into the game unless you're mafia trying to make friends.

On April 03 2014 11:57 yamato77 wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:37 gumshoe wrote:
I dont like how theres not a single real scum read in dandel ions whole thing / : it's all just policy lynch suggestions and uncalled for slander. Why put such a huge effort into something so pointless? You know, unless hes hoping scum impale themselves on the branches of his not for reals tree... Maybe hes deliberately playing into our idea of Dandel Ion? It definitly doesnt look like hes scum hunting. In fact he even confirms that the primary goal of his posting tonight was to get a green check from town
.
I'm already confirmed town anyway so my job here is done.

Does that not seem iffy?


for the record, this is about what one expects from Dandel anyway

not that interested in him


On April 03 2014 12:07 yamato77 wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:01 yamato77 wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also robik rage voting dandel and then voting for iamp unexplained also feels bad, not noob bad but scum bad.
Like hes faking the rage against dandel right so he votes for him, then he feels like maybe he can get more support for an iamp lynch and is just testing the waters with his vote. Townies always have a reason for voting someone and its so early in the game it cant really be a trap or anything. Robik you gotta explain yourself.

that seems like a reach

why?

Do you really think a mafia player thinks he can get a lynch on iamp going with a vote at that time?

It's a serious reach to suggest so.

On April 03 2014 12:02 gumshoe wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:57 yamato77 wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:37 gumshoe wrote:
I dont like how theres not a single real scum read in dandel ions whole thing / : it's all just policy lynch suggestions and uncalled for slander. Why put such a huge effort into something so pointless? You know, unless hes hoping scum impale themselves on the branches of his not for reals tree... Maybe hes deliberately playing into our idea of Dandel Ion? It definitly doesnt look like hes scum hunting. In fact he even confirms that the primary goal of his posting tonight was to get a green check from town
.
I'm already confirmed town anyway so my job here is done.

Does that not seem iffy?


for the record, this is about what one expects from Dandel anyway

not that interested in him


Do you think he's incapable of playing into his own meta? What has he contributed so far in comparison to how much effort it looks like he's spent?

Why do you think Rayn is scum?


I don't care about Dandel atm whatsoever.

I have my reasons for pursuing the Rayn read.


Let's kill yamato. He wants to kill dandel and then says he won't talk to dandel if robik is around and then wants nothing to do with dandel. All while doing nothing other than some secret plan with rayn.

You sir are both town and correct.

On April 04 2014 02:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 01:49 Holyflare wrote:
Dandel why aren't you voting yamato after calling him obvious scum and game is ez?

because kitaman is still the best lynch and it really doesnt matter where my vote is atm

(why is kita whose alignment you can't be sure of a better lynch than someone you think is obvious scum?)

On April 04 2014 10:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 10:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 04 2014 10:44 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2014 10:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 04 2014 10:34 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2014 10:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 04 2014 10:30 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2014 10:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 04 2014 10:27 marvellosity wrote:
sorry Wave, I gave the *actual* reasons that Dandel was town. Terrible I know.

Next time I'll be sure to invent kooky reasons to keep you happy.

That's not what I mean.
I mean often, considering you're better than me at this game and whatnot (/egostroke), you come up with differing (and often better) reasons why someone is of a certain alignment than I do, or come up with something that opens my eyes. A revelation if you will.

Haven't gotten much of that from you this game, that's all. It just means your reasoning for Dandel's towniness isn't alignment indicative to me in your case.

What do you expect it's not like I'm hard to read or it takes effort or anything like that...

Eh, I figure one of these days mebbe you'll do something as scum.
How many people jumped on you for that first post of yours though?

three I think, but I don't see how that's relevant.

I just randomly thought about it. Who were those people? You don't think it's relevant if people attacked you for your obvious whatever-it-was post?

On April 04 2014 10:33 marvellosity wrote:
you'd hate my spreadsheet Wave. It's so superficial. It does, however, contain the words "fuck", "ass", "weirdo", and "bathtub"

You know very well that doesn't sound like something I'd hate.
In fact, now I think I'd like a sample. How about 'weirdo,' and 'bathtub?'

yamato, iamp and gumshoe are the ones I remember.

I don't count robik because he attacked me personally without reading the post.

Well it can be relevant to some things, like their alignment, but not in this context of the current topic, no.

Do you still think yamato is scum?
I would say his current level of activity belies how he used to be more likely as scum, but he's been pretty idgaf in all his games recently. Plus there's that thing he had going with rayn, whatever that was, and I'm pretty sure rayn is going to flip green. And I can never tell wtf plans rayn tries to pull so it kinda sucks he's gone now and can't explain shit to me.

Yeah he has done absolutely nothing to make me even consider reconsidering my read on him, so he's still scum.

(only responds about his scum read when asked)




tl:dr he has yamato as a really big scum read but shows no interest in developing it, interacting with his scum read or pushing his scum read at any point in the game. He only mentions it to +1 people or to answer when asked and he does not think a vote on yamato is apt at this time but still votes for kita.

Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 04 2014 08:54 GMT
#1798
We shall wait on the marvel.
If he wants to trade 1 - 1 with me I shall put the wheels in motion.

At least he can't be too angry when I flip town after he does.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 04 2014 08:54 GMT
#1799
On April 04 2014 17:53 Koshi wrote:
Holyflare bro. I can kill the marv. But in the most antitown way possible.

if you do this, you are directly claiming mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 04 2014 08:54 GMT
#1800
The marvel is here.
I had a good night of sleep.
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