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On April 04 2014 19:04 marvellosity wrote:Because you called me mafia, all your reads have been bad, and what I've already explained about how you were stoking the fires way more than necessary. We've been through this, there's little point asking me the same question over and over. Re: Paperscraps: Do you agree/disagree with this? Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 10:02 sandroba wrote:
Alright I'm willing to roll with that. Paperscraps is likely non mafia because doing random shit like typing backwards is not a mafia tell and he voluntarily disclosed information about him and VE being somehow connect and still being suspicious of VE which is a town tell. Also his filter is one page, let the dude play some more freely before we wagon up on him and he becomes all defensive and now you can't tell shit about his alignment.
There are probably better people to focus who have a larger filter but I haven't started filter diving yet. Do you have any ideas on who to start with? Also I'd like Robik + whoever else knows Paperscraps to talk about him a little; both sandroba and syllogism indicated that Paper roleplaying this stuff (or continuing to do so) is unnecessary as mafia, but Robik said it's the kinda shizzle maf-Paperscaps would do. Obviously this is fairly major sticking point.
i was clearly messing around at the start to antagonise robik, which i already said ~_~
either way, I do agree that paperscraps revealing his qt with VE and still calling him scummy is +town points and I actually wanted to talk about VE.
I think it was gumshoe? that raised the point that VA claimed VE's role and VE passed it off as a joke but then VE came into the thread and scum read VA for his little activity in thread but more in qt and the role thing. Which is really weird seeing as VA already addressed that both in thread and seemingly in qt
On April 04 2014 07:50 VayneAuthority wrote:
How do people feel about killing? Several red flags from my point of view (I will say upfront I haven't even come close to reading the thread, simply reading filters for now)
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va and ve so annoying to read together ~_~
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also ve makes this read:
On April 03 2014 12:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
iamp, JAT and VE. Killing town too, maybe Wave, maybe sandroba. Maybe not sandroba. I'll lynch any lurker, including myself. Any questions? No? Good, everyone GO.
iamp and jat are way way low down on my reads at that point in time and sandroba had only posted a few times so this list is pretty weird
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On April 04 2014 19:15 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 19:12 Holyflare wrote:
va and ve so annoying to read together ~_~ If you call VE "the sexy bearded one" it will be easier to distinguish. I actually agree that the sexy bearded one's vote on VA is a little weak - he's going to need to get 16 votes if he really passionately believes in that case. But the sexy bearded one seemed so cheerful at the start of the game :x
that is my only aprehension
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On April 04 2014 19:16 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 19:15 Holyflare wrote:also ve makes this read: On April 03 2014 12:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
iamp, JAT and VE. Killing town too, maybe Wave, maybe sandroba. Maybe not sandroba. I'll lynch any lurker, including myself. Any questions? No? Good, everyone GO. iamp and jat are way way low down on my reads at that point in time and sandroba had only posted a few times so this list is pretty weird Actually I liked this post. jat was the only questionable one to me at the time and still I could maybe understand.
well what about his lsb scum read for only talking about the button which turned into an lsb im watching you read for only talking about the button?
On April 03 2014 12:37 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 12:33 LSB wrote:On April 03 2014 12:31 VisceraEyes wrote:On April 03 2014 12:23 LSB wrote:On April 03 2014 12:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm going to say I want to push the button. CATASTROPHE or CATASTROPHE?? Excellent point VE, it is important to establish lexiconically that CATASTROPHE is the official correct way to describe the result of pressing the button. Catashrophe is acceptable as a short hand, as well as "The town initiative for a better tomorrow" For example: We must push the town button so we can cause CATASTROPHE for the betterment of the town. I don't think it's important. I've made my stance clear, and I'm trying to find scum instead. Or rather, I've started by trying to find town, which will help me narrow down where I think I should look for scum. However your suggestion that it's important to discuss whether pushing the button is good or bad, again, leads me to believe that you're not so much interested in finding scum. LSB captured!! I thought you were a friend, yet it seems to be you are nothing but a jailkeeper, a torturer of those whole want to be free I love you LSB. But I will kill you for the town.
On April 03 2014 12:41 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 12:40 LSB wrote:On April 03 2014 12:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
LSB, do you have specific Info about the button??? I have no info about the button, even I, someone who is wise enough to realize the importance of unsealing the CATASTROPHE cannot fathom what the CATASTROPHE will bring I'm willing to let you live for now LSB. But I'm watching you. Carefully.
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On April 04 2014 19:25 marvellosity wrote:
what about it? lol
I don't see why a town VE cannot make those posts? Can you really tell me otherwise?
because i don't think ve would have a scum read on a person for not posting any game relevant content and then drop it because that person continues doing no game relevant content straight away 1 post after he scum read him.
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nvm i missed the post where he brought it up again:
On April 03 2014 23:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I tried to give him some breathing room but LSB has still given me no reason to keep him around. Can some of the people ignoring my posts look at LSB and tell me with a straight face that we should not lynch him?
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On April 04 2014 19:28 marvellosity wrote:
how do you feel about jat, btw?
i still don't have crazy town feels like i normally see from jat, he spent 2 pages arguing about killing and then came to the conclusion that killing "must be a tool then" instead of killing being scum and then later on in the game as soon as someone mentions they don't have a town read on him (snb) jat is all over that supporting a killing lynch
On April 04 2014 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 00:09 IAmRobik wrote:On April 04 2014 00:08 strongandbig wrote:On April 04 2014 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 04 2014 00:02 strongandbig wrote:On April 03 2014 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 03 2014 23:23 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, for the record, I'm not really interested in lynching Balla right this minute. Mostly because everything he's done has fit with his pre-game "roll".
Random lynch = 100% neutral. He rolled true neutral.
I don't think it was constructive and the whole bit was dumb, but I just see it as more of him having fun with his roll than being scum.
Totes okay with waiting until he says more.
Nah i totally disagree with this. What better way to play as scum saying "i said I would do this pregame". I feel like townBalla would have more responsibilty as town than to play like this. so your read on balla is a meta-read based on the fact that you think he would roleplay as scum and not as town? can you give me some evidence or reasoning to back up this meta read? i have never played with balla before. other than this metaread i dont see anything in balla's filter that looks actively scummy rather than just not playing the game, and it's early enough in the day that we don't have to start worrying about that yet Balla's meta is that he plays as town. If he is mafia he either does not play or if he tries he gets caught. if it didnt come across in my sandrojism comment i dont like people like that syllo is playing for real so far this game though so i should stop needling him. my b anyway i still don't think killing is town. who's with me? Killing is DEFINITELY town. If you think otherwise, go read Foundations. Wut? He was scum that game and hasn't played a town forum game afaik. Bad approach to meta him like that. Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 00:08 strongandbig wrote:On April 04 2014 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 04 2014 00:02 strongandbig wrote:On April 03 2014 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 03 2014 23:23 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, for the record, I'm not really interested in lynching Balla right this minute. Mostly because everything he's done has fit with his pre-game "roll".
Random lynch = 100% neutral. He rolled true neutral.
I don't think it was constructive and the whole bit was dumb, but I just see it as more of him having fun with his roll than being scum.
Totes okay with waiting until he says more.
Nah i totally disagree with this. What better way to play as scum saying "i said I would do this pregame". I feel like townBalla would have more responsibilty as town than to play like this. so your read on balla is a meta-read based on the fact that you think he would roleplay as scum and not as town? can you give me some evidence or reasoning to back up this meta read? i have never played with balla before. other than this metaread i dont see anything in balla's filter that looks actively scummy rather than just not playing the game, and it's early enough in the day that we don't have to start worrying about that yet Balla's meta is that he plays as town. If he is mafia he either does not play or if he tries he gets caught. if it didnt come across in my sandrojism comment i dont like people like that syllo is playing for real so far this game though so i should stop needling him. my b anyway i still don't think killing is town. who's with me? You have my axe.
and then he argues with rayn about killing some more.... he hasn't pushed anything about killing who he thinks is not town and then +1's a post about killing killing and just defends austin etc from rayn (which was actually fair) but even so his filter is killing central with no accusation of killing being scum
not feeling crazy good about jat tbh
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i dunno all the games i played with jat he looked really town to me so meh, what game are you talking about?
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oh you don't remember nvm
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just want to lynch ve for not wanting to defend the button tbh 
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On April 04 2014 19:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hf like half the game wants to push the button. You havent said anything about ve being scum, you nullified the LSB point and you dont have any other. VE was pushing VA because apparently he talked more in the qt than in thread which obviously is scummy. Also va claimed antitown
No it's not obviously scummy and you are being dumb, VA makes it consistently evident that he hates reading threads and he doesn't like it when a million pages happen before he gets here (he's said that in a pre-game somewhere? maybe titanic?) so it's not really odd at all that he'd spend time talking more in the qt and filter diving.
That ve thing about the button was quite clearly a joke and it IS weird because he was so adament about joining the button defence league in pre-game and then suddenly had a massive change of heart for no reason whatsoever because LSB (his scum read) was talking about pressing the button. So truthfully, VE changed his mind on defending the button because to him scum told him to press the button. So clearly oats, that is really fucking weird to me. Regardless of what VE says about his mindset since the start of the game being to press the button (he also said paperscraps was suspicious for having this suspicion).
Quote VA saying he isn't town please
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what game did robik just play scum in?
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On April 04 2014 20:02 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 20:01 Holyflare wrote:
what game did robik just play scum in? newbie whatever-number-it-is
yeh just read it this isn't scum robik
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On April 04 2014 20:04 marvellosity wrote:
maybe i shouldn't lynch you holy.
what do you think about that?
i think that was an obvious conclusion a while ago
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On April 04 2014 20:04 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 16:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
My role is anti-town to clarify. and narcissistic. I wasn't going to get night killed anyway so I dont see any harm in revealing this Va is not posting in the thread, it has nothing to do with readin the thread. Why is he only posting in the qt about reada ans such? Your defence is completely wrong holyflare.
you don't know how much he is posting in said qt or about what, he said it in a pre-game that he doesn't like to read or catch up in long threads so why would he automatically change that now? why is that scummy? he is part of the 4 horsemen and it was already stated that scum COULD be in the qt and i presume horsemen have anti-townish powers because well... they are the 4 horsemen no duh??
what's the point of revealing if his role is anti town or not if he is scum?
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I need to look at HF more because in the game I played with him where he was town he came out with a bang found a scum and literally never shut up about that. I haven't seen that passion this game. Going to reread his filter though as I know he was caught up in the troll fest that went on for the better part of the last 24 hours. Hf might be scum too but I need to reread his filter as this is more of a feel read of me thinking about his alignment and going "where is the scumhunting tunnel fest that was in titanic?"
this seems very pre-meditated because i've been posting for a while now and i antagonised robik which he gave palmar town points for but not me? and then he mentions that he hasn't read me but that i could be scum?
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On April 04 2014 20:11 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 20:02 marvellosity wrote:On April 04 2014 20:00 marvellosity wrote:
Do you think you're going to rally a majority on to Robik? Further to this, Poofter, you claim Robik is uninterested in the thread And yet you have outstanding questions directed to you from other people in the thread that you've seemingly missed yourself. I think that he is around and able to be interested but is not putting effort into the game. I read that as scummy. I am not going to leave out information even if I can't get a majority on my preferred lynch I want my case out there so it can be seen. I would never know if I could get a majority to rally behind it if I don't present it. Why would it be bad for me to bring up a case on anyone at this point that I find scummy? I'm showing there is a max 4 votes on anyone atm so looks like we don't have anything remotely close to a majority atm. So I am going to say that YEs I most definitely could get a majority on scumRobik.
please read newbie LIV filter:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445959-newbie-mini-mafia-liv?user=IAmRobik&view=all
does this look like this game to you? (he was scum in liv)
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On April 04 2014 20:12 Palmar wrote:
cryptic message:
For me only two remain: Cor 13:13
you have no faith, love or hope? which one!
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On April 04 2014 20:14 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 20:10 Holyflare wrote:I need to look at HF more because in the game I played with him where he was town he came out with a bang found a scum and literally never shut up about that. I haven't seen that passion this game. Going to reread his filter though as I know he was caught up in the troll fest that went on for the better part of the last 24 hours. Hf might be scum too but I need to reread his filter as this is more of a feel read of me thinking about his alignment and going "where is the scumhunting tunnel fest that was in titanic?" this seems very pre-meditated because i've been posting for a while now and i antagonised robik which he gave palmar town points for but not me? and then he mentions that he hasn't read me but that i could be scum? I looked at the voting thread after reading through the main thread to see where all the votes currently were and you were the top vote getting candidate so I thought "hmm what do I think about HF atm... Well in Titanic he was a mad man and wouldn't shut up about DP (and was very right) I don't recall him saying anything like this this game... in fact I don't think I remember much about HF in this thread he is playing different from his town game maybe he is scum" (granted my sample size with you is very very very small but I can't ignore the sample I have in making a read. And I say you could be scum not are scum. So HF what do you mean by pre-meditated? like what do you mean that I was going to call you scum all along and just didn't have a reason?
you say that I COULD be scum but if i could be scum then you SHOULD be making a read on me and actually reading my filter to confirm that. Instead you post that I COULD be scum but you do not know because you haven't read me. I have also posted a lot in the past few pages, enough to get a read on but you posted this after all that which means you didn't read the thread before you posted it properly.
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