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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 04 2014 18:00 GMT
#2272
Why would they out themselves if they had a separate win condition from the town? Palmar seems to indicate that not all third parties are antitown
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 04 2014 18:25 GMT
#2288
First and foremost I want to reiterate that the most important thing right now is that we need to get someone lynched. It is a majority lynch system so we need to consolidate our votes. with only one vote candidate please vote for paperscrapes or explain why you think he is town.



This game has been noted by obvious mafias. People that play so mafiaish that they scream "LYNCH Me". Unfortunatly it has grown to the point where it may well as be more mafia than town. Such is the life in TL.

OBV Mafia (just click filter): Djodref, sandroba, VA, gumshoe - Note obv mafia is not a definative statement but more of a general filter impression.

VayneAuthority - Although not directly antitown, it seems pretty clear that he does not have the towns interest in mind. If he ever comes up to be lynched, expect him to explain that the town's win condition does not include him. He would make a great vig target but alas I don't have KP

Keirathi - Previously I've posted about Keirathi here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447045-catastrophe-mafia?page=67#1323
On the good note he has began to talk about game related things. On the bad note, there is very little difference from what he did before. Known for the BH train, but "Replacements are scum" is lazy and not alignment indicative. I've created a very own "Make your own Keirathi Ad Lib"

Pick a player ____
Pick an alignment ____
+ Show Spoiler +
[Player] is probs ____



Killing - People have pointed out that Killing is playing much differently than how he did as mafia in foundations. Yet the same can be said about people playing differently in their second game from their first. Meta reading off of one game is pretty suspicious IAmRobik.
It is hard to find in a game someone with more setup related talk and less reads than I do, but killing does fit that bill. His horse fishing certainly is pretty questionable. After all, if the horses were antitown, does he seriously expect them to say that? I think he is interested in the impact of horses on other alignments in the game.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447045-catastrophe-mafia?page=111#2217 This post stands out by being his longest post, and the one that seems to be contributing reads. Analysis on spam seems to me as desperate, next of which are pure personality analysis. We have no way of knowing if this personality analysis is legit, but what strikes out to me is in no time is there any mention of Techpoofter being anti-town, or acting scummy (aside from the spam analysis). To me this is "Oh shit my filter has no content, let me post something".
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 04 2014 18:53 GMT
#2299
On April 05 2014 03:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 03:45 Amiko wrote:
I tend to think he is immune because in the only scum game I read of Robik he considered fakeclaiming but then hesitated and ultimately didn't do so. I think that reflects some discomfort with fakeclaiming, so I don't think he is likely to do so d1 when he doesn't have to do so.

Nothing specific I can think of to say about robik/killing right now, sorry.

If you think he isn't fakeclaiming - isn't it a protown thing to tell town that targeting him/Killing could be harmful? I don't see what mafia gains by doing so.

Mafia has much more KP than town, though in this case there is probably zero chance that mafia would waste KP on him. So I wouldn't call it alignment indicative
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 04 2014 18:54 GMT
#2300
EBWOP
On April 05 2014 03:53 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 03:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 05 2014 03:45 Amiko wrote:
I tend to think he is immune because in the only scum game I read of Robik he considered fakeclaiming but then hesitated and ultimately didn't do so. I think that reflects some discomfort with fakeclaiming, so I don't think he is likely to do so d1 when he doesn't have to do so.

Nothing specific I can think of to say about robik/killing right now, sorry.

If you think he isn't fakeclaiming - isn't it a protown thing to tell town that targeting him/Killing could be harmful? I don't see what mafia gains by doing so.

Usually claiming vet is antitown because Mafia has much more KP than town, and it is less likely that town would shoot you. Though in this case there is probably zero chance that mafia would waste KP on him. So I wouldn't call it alignment indicative
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 05 2014 22:05 GMT
#3044
On April 06 2014 06:58 Keirathi wrote:
Okay, already in just the first few pages of syllo's filter from CT, there is a glaring thing missing from him in this game. Syllo and sandro are super good friends, and discuss mafia games between each other all the time and have an uncanny knack for reading each other. In CT, syllo kept poking at sandro trying to get a read on him, and then posted this:

Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 05:40 syllogism wrote:
I was going to wait until tomorrow so I could see who people are pushing today without me, to an extent, locking down discussion. I don't think it's particularly working though and kita can't wait (whether he is town remains to be seen, but I don't think it's worth the gamble).

I'm fairly certain that sandroba is mafia. He hasn't done anything useful whole game long and he definitely could have. Everything that I've said about him before is still applicable. Even if he has been busy, it was by choice. No one forced him to run for election and he could have at any time dropped out and supported me. If he was town, I think he would have as soon as he figured out that I'm town.

Moreover, his attitude when he came back is still wrong. Instead of attempting to convince me or even address me, he just addresses everyone generally. He claims that I have been paranoid about his alignment in merc mini and that 80+ player game, but that is false or an exaggeration. In the huge game I was, in fact, pushing him for mayor on day 1 (we were both town). In merc mini I was only slightly suspicious because his ability completely broke the game, but I never wanted to lynch him at any point; the only suspicions were voiced over PM.

If he was town, he would be attempting to convince me, not play down my ability to read him accurately. To those who believe sandroba is town, what do you think mafia did on day 1? Who is mafia? Did they really have no one who could have ran and won? Do you think it's kita or acro were the mafia candidates then?


The whole thing is pretty telling of their relationship, but the bolded in particular: why isn't syllo trying to convince sandro that he is town this game? Why does he seem to be avoiding sandro altogether?

Yea, I think syllo is probably scum.

Don't how how legit is this meta analysis. Can anyone else verify this?

I find it really odd to simply finger someone simply because he didn't really analyze one person out of the other 28. I'll look at his filter though
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 05 2014 22:44 GMT
#3073
Since
A) SingSing is streaming
B) Mods are right about to ninja me.

I am going to post this prematurely. I will promise reads soon

Foolishness
He is playing obvious town. His play play reminds me a lot of Ver playing as his smurf in TL Mafia XXXVII http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/191888-tl-mafia-xxxvii?user=Ser Aspi (All the images are broken, so it really isn't that relevent). Ver, being himself, didn't have much time so mainly lurked with lengthy posts. Tired of no one paying attention to him he decided to attach pictures of professor badass alongside his analysis. This has been a tactic taken by many good town players.

Foolishness seems to be doing the same thing. Considering his posts on the TL Hosting quene, it wouldn't be a stretch to assume he wouldn't have the activity level to push lynches himself, and mainly is hoping for other people to push the lynches for him. Likewise, although his snippets are brief what he is posting is solid and very important. Even the little bit about the post count being innacurate is increadibly important to share. If you were mafia and found out some townie has an extra vote (or if your team had an extra vote), why would you suddenly point it out?

I am going to profile him as the town batman.

Side Note:
syllogism- As always people chagnge over time, and Syllogism's play has been pretty different from before. The major thing that stands out to me was the choice of lynch candidates on the latter half of day one. Syllogism's read on Tehpoofter seems pretty weak as his disintrest in the choice of major lynch candidates day one. That being said I don't think the whole day one lynch in this game should be alignment indicative. It was as much as 'This player played scummy', to 'Let's lynch some lurkers', let's make a case against Gumshoe or Paperwagon! Wow that takes balls and thinking to do.

I am going to put him on a watch list simply because he has an utter lack of reads, however bad day one might have been.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 05 2014 22:46 GMT
#3075
On April 06 2014 07:45 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 07:44 LSB wrote:
SingSing is streaming

LSB town

SingSing + Aui + Deamon + Rtz + 1 (pres qu) stack
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 05 2014 22:46 GMT
#3078
Or something like that. I think danny is in there
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 06 2014 02:33 GMT
#3152
On April 06 2014 11:27 Holyflare wrote:
Anyone confused by lxiv restart thing, i made the game pm enabled. Happy hunting.

Not entirely sure why you would use your ability the second day, but I'm not complaining.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 06 2014 02:36 GMT
#3154
On April 06 2014 11:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 11:33 LSB wrote:
On April 06 2014 11:27 Holyflare wrote:
Anyone confused by lxiv restart thing, i made the game pm enabled. Happy hunting.

Not entirely sure why you would use your ability the second day, but I'm not complaining.


You're asking why i wouldn't enable the information in the game to expand on day 2...?

Personally I would have waited if there was a clear medic protect, or later in the game so the DTs can contact the people they've checked
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 06 2014 06:34 GMT
#3181
I'm just an innocent little townie. Why don't we focus on other people? Most importantly, JustAnotherTownie?

A promised, I will provide more reads! And it is Soontm!


Hopeless1der - Just click http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447045-catastrophe-mafia?user=Hopeless1der&view=all]His filter. Hopeless1der starts with spam and still haven't stopped. I am not entirely sure what he is doing but it doesn't even look like he is trying to play this game.

I will add him to my ever growing list of "obv mafia". Djodref, sandroba, VayneAuthority, Hopeless1der. Unfortunatly there just seems to be too many "obv mafia" for all of them to be mafia

justanothertownie - Active without saying much. I always like to say one of the easiest ways (if you have the time) to play as a mafia member is to be very active and be the 'town discussion leader'. You get to ask a lot of questions, and make it seem like you are contirbuting without saying much yourself. To me, JAT's filter is a classic example of this. It consist of so many one line responses or questions to other players, although he has an 8 page filter, I can count the amount of times he wrote more than two lines with my fingers

But JAT just plays this way! I want you to compare this to his town play in Foundation Mafia. Yes he is active, but notice that he actually has posts with more than two lines. It also contains direct accusations of scums and his own opinions.



And your Third Party Reminder
Amiko - Claimed Third Party Bulletproof Survivor. Amiko has a little too much setup related talk which makes me suspcious of him. However Amiko is new and I would be hypocritical if I said that playing setup focus is mafia. Unfortunatly I really don't want to waste a lynch on this, so if any of the vigs would like to policy kill amiko I would be greatful
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 06 2014 06:38 GMT
#3182
On April 06 2014 14:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't have KP but I have an ego role that is anti-town yes. Probably won't use it.

So what's the point of anti-town abilities on a town aligned person? Sounds suspicious to me.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 06 2014 07:06 GMT
#3184
No, just click on Jat's filter, and compare it to his foundation's mafia one. There is a start contrast and I believe he has left out analysis in this game compared to his most recent game as town.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 07 2014 19:36 GMT
#3662
I apologize for being inactive, I've been really busy. I need to get some sleep x.x

##Vote: syllogism

DT Claim, scummy, playing much more passively than before, I don't think I've seen a read in his filter last time I checked.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
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