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On April 04 2014 03:27 gumshoe wrote:
Does anyone here honestly believe Steve was townier than rayn at any point?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
~rayn
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On April 04 2014 03:30 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 03:06 Steveling wrote:On April 04 2014 03:01 gumshoe wrote:On April 04 2014 02:54 Steveling wrote:On April 04 2014 02:46 gumshoe wrote:On April 04 2014 02:29 Steveling wrote:On April 04 2014 02:27 gumshoe wrote:On April 04 2014 02:23 Steveling wrote:
Also, why did gum jumped ship so fast, so effortlessly when couple pages back he was practically begging me to take his side?
We played one more game together gum, I was scum and I was under pressure.
Did I scum slip that hugely in that game?
Because my mistake, if I'm scum, is just pants on head bad not just bad.
Do you think I'd make that kind of mistake?
Answer honestly pls, I am still not sure about you/raynkoshi. 1: I jumped ship because my case on Rayn was invalidated, your reaction was shit, and rayn had no reason to do what he did as scum. 2: That is what I am saying yes, you were pissed that such a little thing in your eyes could mean the difference between victory and defeat after you had sold the on the fence townie perfectly. I truly believe that. Mods I tried my best but they don't let me, sorry. So, gumshoe, you don't think what you did is cheating at all? Personally? I do, I was frustrated, I'd put a lot of effort into this game and yet I cant count the amount of people who have called my arguments outright shit and ignored what I've had to say. I just got really pissed that you werent hearing me out and was utterly desperate, was it against the spirit of the game? Yes, it was. But it felt justified when I did it ) : This setup is really frustrating because it feels like theres scum right in front of you and all you have to do is play your heart our and prove it T_T and I was really upset to find out that I just couldnt do that. To find out I'm really not that good at mafia. Still, none of that changes the fact that In a game where townie seals are outright banned, I do personally feel its cheating. That only aplies though if I'm town, which I am. If I'm scum its a lie like any other, and you cant fault scum for bieng scum. Thats why I am suspicious of how you immediately assumed I'm cheating / : to me that looks you know I'm town, despite all your sentiments to the contrary. Ahh, you make sense finally. But I'd be angry whether I was town or scum.Believe me or not, that's up to you. I'm not gonna swear, that's for sure. You are presenting your reaction to me as null, even if thats true, Rayn's reaction could not have come from scum unless he was playing completely sub optimal. Presenting yourself as null is not good enough. I know one of you is scum, do you understand why I have trouble believing you over him? If were both somehow town, you gotta convince me how what Rayn did makes sense from a scum perspective. Cause I honestly cant see it T_T Rayn's play would be suboptimal but mine wouldn't? xD If you read the incident's pages you will see that people are literally telling me to calm down and that I'm attracting attention. If I did just that I'd in the clear. Yet you are telling me that as scum, I completely went off on a retarded case that would simply die down if I ignored it? All the while I had previously beat you in another game as scum under fire, thus you know how good I am in this game. Not claiming to be mafia god, far from it, but I think you would hold me on higher regard than an amoeba. Have you read my case on ryan? What do you think? It's the long post I opened this day with. You avoided to answer this or did you forget again?
Actually, yes XD I read this and jumped to your case and forgot about the rest of the post.
1: I think you dont understand what I mean by sub optimal, if Rayn is scum, he literally just has to do what hes doing and he wins, the onus was on him to make such a shitty scum move that makes perfect sense to me if hes town (ive explained why rayn can do this as town already, and ive seen him do something similar before at key points of games)
You on the other hand are reacting, you MUST react to what Rayns done therefore you are more off balance. Rayn has to go out of his way to play shitty if hes scum, whereas you are just reacting shitty to something you had no control over and trying to justify rage with rage.
Also you are saying you wouldnt play this shitty as scum, why would you play that shitty as town either? That argument makes no sense / :
Rayn's action is inherently better as one faction than the other. Does that not make sense?
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On April 04 2014 03:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 03:27 gumshoe wrote:
Does anyone here honestly believe Steve was townier than rayn at any point? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA ~rayn
Other than stupid Gumshoe of course T_T I mean of the two people you say were on Rayn, one of them has realized hes an idiot, and the other is Geript.
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On April 04 2014 03:39 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 03:30 Steveling wrote:On April 04 2014 03:06 Steveling wrote:On April 04 2014 03:01 gumshoe wrote:On April 04 2014 02:54 Steveling wrote:On April 04 2014 02:46 gumshoe wrote:On April 04 2014 02:29 Steveling wrote:On April 04 2014 02:27 gumshoe wrote:On April 04 2014 02:23 Steveling wrote:
Also, why did gum jumped ship so fast, so effortlessly when couple pages back he was practically begging me to take his side?
We played one more game together gum, I was scum and I was under pressure.
Did I scum slip that hugely in that game?
Because my mistake, if I'm scum, is just pants on head bad not just bad.
Do you think I'd make that kind of mistake?
Answer honestly pls, I am still not sure about you/raynkoshi. 1: I jumped ship because my case on Rayn was invalidated, your reaction was shit, and rayn had no reason to do what he did as scum. 2: That is what I am saying yes, you were pissed that such a little thing in your eyes could mean the difference between victory and defeat after you had sold the on the fence townie perfectly. I truly believe that. Mods I tried my best but they don't let me, sorry. So, gumshoe, you don't think what you did is cheating at all? Personally? I do, I was frustrated, I'd put a lot of effort into this game and yet I cant count the amount of people who have called my arguments outright shit and ignored what I've had to say. I just got really pissed that you werent hearing me out and was utterly desperate, was it against the spirit of the game? Yes, it was. But it felt justified when I did it ) : This setup is really frustrating because it feels like theres scum right in front of you and all you have to do is play your heart our and prove it T_T and I was really upset to find out that I just couldnt do that. To find out I'm really not that good at mafia. Still, none of that changes the fact that In a game where townie seals are outright banned, I do personally feel its cheating. That only aplies though if I'm town, which I am. If I'm scum its a lie like any other, and you cant fault scum for bieng scum. Thats why I am suspicious of how you immediately assumed I'm cheating / : to me that looks you know I'm town, despite all your sentiments to the contrary. Ahh, you make sense finally. But I'd be angry whether I was town or scum.Believe me or not, that's up to you. I'm not gonna swear, that's for sure. You are presenting your reaction to me as null, even if thats true, Rayn's reaction could not have come from scum unless he was playing completely sub optimal. Presenting yourself as null is not good enough. I know one of you is scum, do you understand why I have trouble believing you over him? If were both somehow town, you gotta convince me how what Rayn did makes sense from a scum perspective. Cause I honestly cant see it T_T Rayn's play would be suboptimal but mine wouldn't? xD If you read the incident's pages you will see that people are literally telling me to calm down and that I'm attracting attention. If I did just that I'd in the clear. Yet you are telling me that as scum, I completely went off on a retarded case that would simply die down if I ignored it? All the while I had previously beat you in another game as scum under fire, thus you know how good I am in this game. Not claiming to be mafia god, far from it, but I think you would hold me on higher regard than an amoeba. Have you read my case on ryan? What do you think? It's the long post I opened this day with. You avoided to answer this or did you forget again? Also you are saying you wouldnt play this shitty as scum, why would you play that shitty as town either? That argument makes no sense / :
Ummm, do you read what you typed before you hit the post button?
It's you who are claiming I'm scum and not me obviously, lmao.
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Rayn you have yet to answer my question.
~Cav
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On April 04 2014 03:41 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 03:39 gumshoe wrote:On April 04 2014 03:30 Steveling wrote:On April 04 2014 03:06 Steveling wrote:On April 04 2014 03:01 gumshoe wrote:On April 04 2014 02:54 Steveling wrote:On April 04 2014 02:46 gumshoe wrote:On April 04 2014 02:29 Steveling wrote:On April 04 2014 02:27 gumshoe wrote:On April 04 2014 02:23 Steveling wrote:
Also, why did gum jumped ship so fast, so effortlessly when couple pages back he was practically begging me to take his side?
We played one more game together gum, I was scum and I was under pressure.
Did I scum slip that hugely in that game?
Because my mistake, if I'm scum, is just pants on head bad not just bad.
Do you think I'd make that kind of mistake?
Answer honestly pls, I am still not sure about you/raynkoshi. 1: I jumped ship because my case on Rayn was invalidated, your reaction was shit, and rayn had no reason to do what he did as scum. 2: That is what I am saying yes, you were pissed that such a little thing in your eyes could mean the difference between victory and defeat after you had sold the on the fence townie perfectly. I truly believe that. Mods I tried my best but they don't let me, sorry. So, gumshoe, you don't think what you did is cheating at all? Personally? I do, I was frustrated, I'd put a lot of effort into this game and yet I cant count the amount of people who have called my arguments outright shit and ignored what I've had to say. I just got really pissed that you werent hearing me out and was utterly desperate, was it against the spirit of the game? Yes, it was. But it felt justified when I did it ) : This setup is really frustrating because it feels like theres scum right in front of you and all you have to do is play your heart our and prove it T_T and I was really upset to find out that I just couldnt do that. To find out I'm really not that good at mafia. Still, none of that changes the fact that In a game where townie seals are outright banned, I do personally feel its cheating. That only aplies though if I'm town, which I am. If I'm scum its a lie like any other, and you cant fault scum for bieng scum. Thats why I am suspicious of how you immediately assumed I'm cheating / : to me that looks you know I'm town, despite all your sentiments to the contrary. Ahh, you make sense finally. But I'd be angry whether I was town or scum.Believe me or not, that's up to you. I'm not gonna swear, that's for sure. You are presenting your reaction to me as null, even if thats true, Rayn's reaction could not have come from scum unless he was playing completely sub optimal. Presenting yourself as null is not good enough. I know one of you is scum, do you understand why I have trouble believing you over him? If were both somehow town, you gotta convince me how what Rayn did makes sense from a scum perspective. Cause I honestly cant see it T_T Rayn's play would be suboptimal but mine wouldn't? xD If you read the incident's pages you will see that people are literally telling me to calm down and that I'm attracting attention. If I did just that I'd in the clear. Yet you are telling me that as scum, I completely went off on a retarded case that would simply die down if I ignored it? All the while I had previously beat you in another game as scum under fire, thus you know how good I am in this game. Not claiming to be mafia god, far from it, but I think you would hold me on higher regard than an amoeba. Have you read my case on ryan? What do you think? It's the long post I opened this day with. You avoided to answer this or did you forget again? Also you are saying you wouldnt play this shitty as scum, why would you play that shitty as town either? That argument makes no sense / : Ummm, do you read what you typed before you hit the post button? It's you who are claiming I'm scum and not me obviously, lmao.
You are saying you would not play this bad as scum, but the play is bad period, theres no reason to play that way as town either.
Whereas Rayn's action is inherently worse if hes scum. Ergo hes townier. Whats the problem here?
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Your reading comprehension?
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Anyway, ask legit stuff, I'll be around for some more time.
What's the timer till day1 ends?
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On April 04 2014 03:45 Steveling wrote:
Your reading comprehension?
God your such a dick,
Your argument, HERDER GUMSHOE I KICKED YOUR ASS AS SCUM, HOW I PLAY SO BAD?!!@>##
The play is bad period, there is no reason to make it therefore it is null, it does not count in your favour.
Rayns play on the other hand is good if hes town and bad if hes scum.
I know one of you is scum, ones reaction is null at best, the other townie. Who do I assume is scum?
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Why do you have trouble with that.
I'm getting fos'ed and you assume I'm scum or at least scummier than ryankoshi.
Obviously I'm gonna set that setting in my example?
Plus I said like, 14 times that what I did was alignment free.
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Honestly, I feel like towns a big vicious cat playing with a stolen shoe ) :
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On April 04 2014 03:51 Steveling wrote:
Why do you have trouble with that.
I'm getting fos'ed and you assume I'm scum or at least scummier than ryankoshi.
Obviously I'm gonna set that setting in my example?
Plus I said like, 14 times that what I did was alignment free.
Exactly! What you did was alignment free AT BEST(I dont think it was, but thats irrelevant) but I find what Rayn did completely good alignment indicative, I MUST pick one of you, therefore you are my scum choice. Seriusly, how does no one get this?
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And btw my play would be more legit as town than as scum.
Town in this setup can't afford MY's.
You ML me, mafia gets a point and you lose a supposedly strong player in ryankoshi( don't know why he's considered a strong player, lol , at least based on this game).
As scum, as I explained in the previous post, acting up for this stupid reason would be disastrous.
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Also you never answered my question, who do you think is scum in Prplz cell?
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I really don't like this holyflare mayorship debacle.
On April 03 2014 01:22 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 01:01 gumshoe wrote:
I mean, my cell is pretty much the most transparent, we havent heard enough from sent or coag to vote Plamar, I dont trust Holy as far I can throw him and no other group has been open enough for a confident vote (except Geript's maybe) why not vote steve? Does a single person here think hes scum? Who the hell says we trust steve? You've made the last 20 pages a shit fest that say nothing other than talk about each other and you never ever consider Steve, who hasn't really done anything at all other than filter and come to conclusions already drawn. Vote me for mayor. I listen to town consensus . If i go against town you can lynch me. Let's stop this shit of i should be mayor because I'm so town or he should be mayor just cz my read so gd. Vote me, end of all this mayor talk. Find scum outside of your cell!
His whole reason for being mayor is to follow the town consensus, however he has done absolutely nothing in work to establish a town consensus for what order to lynch people in. Nor has he indicated in any way shape or form what order people are going to be in. (Well he did call my major town read scum, and probably will put that group first, which seems like a bad idea to me).
Simply allowing someone to maintain an order without a discussion is incredibly scummy because scum could easily set up the order so it is advantageous to them
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On April 04 2014 03:57 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 03:51 Steveling wrote:
Why do you have trouble with that.
I'm getting fos'ed and you assume I'm scum or at least scummier than ryankoshi.
Obviously I'm gonna set that setting in my example?
Plus I said like, 14 times that what I did was alignment free. Exactly! What you did was alignment free AT BEST(I dont think it was, but thats irrelevant) but I find what Rayn did completely good alignment indicative, I MUST pick one of you, therefore you are my scum choice. Seriusly, how does no one get this?
What's your reasoning for thinking rayn acted as towny?
Holyflare and palmar basically told me that they know he's retarded but they trust him, I don't agree but there you have it.
What your stance?
Cause to me it seems you got a bit too happy a bit too fast when the attention shifted from you on me.
You said rayn had a 90% scumread and suddenly he's town?
With a play that his fellow veterans admitted was dumb?
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On April 04 2014 03:59 gumshoe wrote:
Also you never answered my question, who do you think is scum in Prplz cell?
Who me?
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On April 04 2014 03:59 Steveling wrote:
And btw my play would be more legit as town than as scum.
Town in this setup can't afford MY's.
You ML me, mafia gets a point and you lose a supposedly strong player in ryankoshi( don't know why he's considered a strong player, lol , at least based on this game).
As scum, as I explained in the previous post, acting up for this stupid reason would be disastrous.
You admit you played shitty earlier 0_0 ummm ok? Is this a scum claim?
Also how can you NOT act out? Pretty much the towniest guy in the game turns on you, if your scum you have to deal with that, theres no way around that. What you did is null or scummy, what Rayn did was townie, do you not see my point of view?
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