Couple this with the fact that I wasn't siding with you completely against gumshoe, makes my case against you at least possible?
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Couple this with the fact that I wasn't siding with you completely against gumshoe, makes my case against you at least possible? | ||
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On April 03 2014 23:40 Holyflare wrote: How is the bolded true at all? You also can't include yourself in the anti rayn train or mderg BECAUSE YOU TWO ONLY SWITCHED TO RAYN AFTER HIS SWITCH. That would be a good question if you hadn't read my posts. I said that it was a hypothesis of mine, ryan was afraid of me turning against him so he had to fos me. I even explained that in my calculation We are 15 players. Gum, getript and per my hypothesis, me, were against him, minus him, that's 11 players left. Honestly I don't like how you keep talking for him. You guys made a big deal about mderg standing up for me but here you are swallowing his spit. | ||
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On April 03 2014 23:55 Palmar wrote: Why are you entirely dismissing the option of gumshoe being mafia Steveling? Do you think it's reasonable of gumshoe to drop all his suspicions of rayn who was previously his strongest scumread, the second rayn stops trying to lynch him? I said this when ryankoshi made their case against gumshoe. Many of his seemingly antitown plays can be attributed to his usual playing style. Since I played with him a game before I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Then again ryan made some a couple good points against him but still I can't ignore the complete randomness of ryankoshi, their 180 on gum had to be scumplay, can't explain it otherwise. | ||
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Whenever I say something I try to back it up. Meanwhile this is your response On April 04 2014 00:01 Holyflare wrote: I have no idea how you can be so far removed from thread sentiment to believe the nonsense you are spouting. Even if you are mafia. 0 arguments. | ||
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On April 04 2014 00:06 Palmar wrote: That's what you're not getting, it doesn't have to be scumplay. In fact it cannot be explained as scumplay. You're vastly underestimating the pull people like me, rayn and HF have in a thread. Like Slam saying something is not the same thing as rayn saying something, you can't just count players who said "this guy is town" and assume that's thread sentiment. If me and rayn agree on a lynch, that guy is generally going to be lynched, no matter what geript or someone else has to say about it. Actually, reading that, you make sense. Unfortunately because this allows for cheating(imo) stuff like the oath thing. I'm pretty sure if mine and gum's positions were reversed and I were to say the exact same phrase as gum ryan wouldn't even think about it for a second. That's why I said it's bad play. | ||
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How come you and holyflare are not making any progress and ryan is incomprehensible? | ||
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This is cringeworthy. | ||
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On April 04 2014 00:30 Holyflare wrote: No because me and palmar explicitly state we think he is town? I don't get how you aren't seeing this...? Yes I got that, what I'm questioning is the way you did it and how this oath shenanigan absolutely didn't weigh at all in your judgment. | ||
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Are you saying I should dismiss that oath ploy and count him town? Imagine yourself in my position, what should I do as town? Honest question. | ||
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I can't flip now on ryan and expect you guys to believe I'm town. And I would be fine with that if this was a normal setup since you would have my reads and the people who jumped on me as potential scum but we will lose my cell if you lynch me so I have to try my best and not give up. If this was a normal setup my last post in this game would be from yesterday. So I'm trying to figure out why ryan did what he did only to find out that you veteran guys have preconceived notions about ryan. I feel lost and confused. Also sad. Hug pls. | ||
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Ryankoshi, can you say what do you honestly think of me leaving aside the oath thing? I think I explained in 3-4 posts why I got mad, well I still am. | ||
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On April 04 2014 01:09 raynpelikonoshi wrote: I am not trolling. you are working backwards and in mafia way because mafia is concerned about how townies see them That's like textbook mafia play. ~rayn But I said that I don't care about that, only reason I care is because in this setup, town will lose 1 point with my lynch. | ||
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On April 04 2014 01:26 Holyflare wrote: It's not recycling. You made an entire case that was based on rayn being scum and not being town read by a majority of people in the thread. So why would you still be angry that someone you think is now scum and had nobody town reading him switched his opinion of someone? Well first of all, for a top ranked mafia player as you described your ability, you managed to contradict yourself in these 2 lines. You made an entire case that was based on rayn being scum and not being town read by a majority of people in the thread. why would you still be angry that someone you think is now scum and had nobody town reading him I don't know what to say, you constantly seem to either not understand my simple posts or not want to. As for your actual question, you are asking me something that will reflect bad on the hosts depending on my answer and I think I blamed them enough. I think I already answered multiple times why I would be mad over this. Read my filter from yesterday if you are still not sure about my reasoning. | ||
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On April 04 2014 01:43 Holyflare wrote: I fail to see how i contradict myself. I'm merely pointing out YOUR contradiction. You think nobody is town reading rayn. YOU think he is scum. So why would YOU be mad when he switches his mind? Unless you are actually conceding that your whole case was wrong? When did I say that no one had him town read, omg, I feel like everyone is trolling me for some reason, lmao. I merely said that not everyone had him town read, so he had reasons to be scared of me. That's what I said. | ||
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