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On April 02 2014 07:17 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 07:16 prplhz wrote:On April 02 2014 07:12 Palmar wrote: how about you guys just let me be the major, and then I select my group to go first?
Also sentinel why do you think I'm unreadable? I'm like one of the most easy players on TL to read. you know, you can make reads on d1 even if you're not up for lynch on d1. Yes, but seeing as hes strongest on day 1 why not put him in the best position possible to use those strengths? okay now you just need to explain why he can better use his strong d1 if he's up for lynch on d1 than he can when he's up for lynch on d2,d3,etc
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I suggest we lynch Cell 4 first. Alakaslam is mafia. You can take this as a fact regardless of my & geript's alignment because we are clearly not both mafia, if one of us is mafia they are bussing because we know how the other one reads Slam and if we are both town the read is genuine either way.
If there is one thing i agree with geript it's that Slam is scum.
geript if you are town stop the shitlogic and find scum. Right now your cases are based on you not reading properly and bad logic as pointed out multiple times.
~rayn
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On April 02 2014 07:18 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 07:16 prplhz wrote:On April 02 2014 07:12 Palmar wrote: how about you guys just let me be the major, and then I select my group to go first?
Also sentinel why do you think I'm unreadable? I'm like one of the most easy players on TL to read. you know, you can make reads on d1 even if you're not up for lynch on d1. Sure, but it feels a lot easier to just have to read two filters really. I like the attention. This is dumb. Trading yourself for a lynch between 2. you got 48 hours to find 1 confirmed townie. 1 semi confirmed town. 1 scummy looking townie. in 1 groupd
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On April 02 2014 07:16 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 07:12 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 06:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 06:44 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 06:42 Palmar wrote: I like the redundant ~rayn part of your posts.
I'm okay with going in on day 1 with my group. It's by far my best day anyway. THANK YOU. Dammit why dont other people get this? Because should not be decided right now. D2 can be set in stone. D1 can't. D1 should be the group that has 2 people that are incredible easy to read as town and are confirmed town. I think discussing a D1 lynch group should be done after 35h in this game. That is exceptionally optimistic of you Rayn to think well catch scum easy before day 1, but honestly if were playing it that way, day 1 should be someone whose alignment we need to know the most, not someone whose guaranteed scum, I mean if your so certain geript is mafia just put him in slot 3(so hes at least guaranteed to be killed before town loses) and have 1 and 2 reserved for people with large influence but questionable loyalties. seriously bro? Not guaranteed scum? D1 is not some fucking egotripping lynch in which we lynch the loudest townie who thinks he fucking solved the game. Which you seem to indicate. If anything we lynch scum in the group of the best D1 player in the game and are guaranteed that he and the third are townies and giving an honest opinion. Which goes back to LYNCH FUCKING SCUM AND NOTHING ELSE.
The goal for town is to win the game, those who blindly lynch those they THINK are scum rarely see the big picture and end up missing crucial points. If we had an honest guaranteed scum who wont tell us anything with his flip why kill him? Hes not going anywhere and it would be more important to use the lynch to answer questions. This is less true in other games because were not sure of all the variables, but here we know exactly how far we can push, the setup is utterly open and we need to catch relations(which are guaranteed to be there cause a third of us are scum) and encourage conversation to win, lynching "confirmed" scum does neither of these things. Honestly I'm just not convinced atm that Geript is scum / : so this whole conversation is irrelevant.
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On April 02 2014 07:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 07:18 Palmar wrote:On April 02 2014 07:16 prplhz wrote:On April 02 2014 07:12 Palmar wrote: how about you guys just let me be the major, and then I select my group to go first?
Also sentinel why do you think I'm unreadable? I'm like one of the most easy players on TL to read. you know, you can make reads on d1 even if you're not up for lynch on d1. Sure, but it feels a lot easier to just have to read two filters really. I like the attention. This is dumb. Trading yourself for a lynch between 2. you got 48 hours to find 1 confirmed townie. 1 semi confirmed town. 1 scummy looking townie. in 1 groupd Yes but there's also the advantage that I don't really get lynched as town so we have a 50/50 shot of getting my group right.
Btw does everyone in a group flip, or only the person lynched?
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On April 02 2014 07:24 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 07:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 07:18 Palmar wrote:On April 02 2014 07:16 prplhz wrote:On April 02 2014 07:12 Palmar wrote: how about you guys just let me be the major, and then I select my group to go first?
Also sentinel why do you think I'm unreadable? I'm like one of the most easy players on TL to read. you know, you can make reads on d1 even if you're not up for lynch on d1. Sure, but it feels a lot easier to just have to read two filters really. I like the attention. This is dumb. Trading yourself for a lynch between 2. you got 48 hours to find 1 confirmed townie. 1 semi confirmed town. 1 scummy looking townie. in 1 groupd Yes but there's also the advantage that I don't really get lynched as town so we have a 50/50 shot of getting my group right. Btw does everyone in a group flip, or only the person lynched? only person lynched
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Why is slam mafia btw rayn?
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On April 02 2014 07:24 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 07:16 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 07:12 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 06:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 06:44 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 06:42 Palmar wrote: I like the redundant ~rayn part of your posts.
I'm okay with going in on day 1 with my group. It's by far my best day anyway. THANK YOU. Dammit why dont other people get this? Because should not be decided right now. D2 can be set in stone. D1 can't. D1 should be the group that has 2 people that are incredible easy to read as town and are confirmed town. I think discussing a D1 lynch group should be done after 35h in this game. That is exceptionally optimistic of you Rayn to think well catch scum easy before day 1, but honestly if were playing it that way, day 1 should be someone whose alignment we need to know the most, not someone whose guaranteed scum, I mean if your so certain geript is mafia just put him in slot 3(so hes at least guaranteed to be killed before town loses) and have 1 and 2 reserved for people with large influence but questionable loyalties. seriously bro? Not guaranteed scum? D1 is not some fucking egotripping lynch in which we lynch the loudest townie who thinks he fucking solved the game. Which you seem to indicate. If anything we lynch scum in the group of the best D1 player in the game and are guaranteed that he and the third are townies and giving an honest opinion. Which goes back to LYNCH FUCKING SCUM AND NOTHING ELSE. The goal for town is to win the game, those who blindly lynch those they THINK are scum rarely see the big picture and end up missing crucial points. If we had an honest guaranteed scum who wont tell us anything with his flip why kill him? Hes not going anywhere and it would be more important to use the lynch to answer questions. This is less true in other games because were not sure of all the variables, but here we know exactly how far we can push, the setup is utterly open and we need to catch relations(which are guaranteed to be there cause a third of us are scum) and encourage conversation to win, lynching "confirmed" scum does neither of these things. Honestly I'm just not convinced atm that Geript is scum / : so this whole conversation is irrelevant. I am also not convinced that geript is scum & this fact has nothing to do with the conversation we are having. What a silly statement to make.
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On April 02 2014 07:24 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 07:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 07:18 Palmar wrote:On April 02 2014 07:16 prplhz wrote:On April 02 2014 07:12 Palmar wrote: how about you guys just let me be the major, and then I select my group to go first?
Also sentinel why do you think I'm unreadable? I'm like one of the most easy players on TL to read. you know, you can make reads on d1 even if you're not up for lynch on d1. Sure, but it feels a lot easier to just have to read two filters really. I like the attention. This is dumb. Trading yourself for a lynch between 2. you got 48 hours to find 1 confirmed townie. 1 semi confirmed town. 1 scummy looking townie. in 1 groupd Yes but there's also the advantage that I don't really get lynched as town so we have a 50/50 shot of getting my group right. Btw does everyone in a group flip, or only the person lynched? only person that is lynched.
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On April 02 2014 07:18 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Scummy point for gumshoe. 1) For defending geript. 2) For not wanting to lynch obvious scum but suggesting it is better to lynch a townie who thinks he solved the game.
1: I'm defending Geript because your argument is weak.
2: A third of us are scum Rayn, there are going to be scummy looking townies and townie looking scum. We should lynch to solve, not to sate our own blood lust.
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gumshoe. rayn signs his post. I am Koshi. you are really miles away from where I am on how to solve this game. MILES away.
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On April 02 2014 07:26 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 07:24 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 07:16 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 07:12 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 06:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 06:44 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 06:42 Palmar wrote: I like the redundant ~rayn part of your posts.
I'm okay with going in on day 1 with my group. It's by far my best day anyway. THANK YOU. Dammit why dont other people get this? Because should not be decided right now. D2 can be set in stone. D1 can't. D1 should be the group that has 2 people that are incredible easy to read as town and are confirmed town. I think discussing a D1 lynch group should be done after 35h in this game. That is exceptionally optimistic of you Rayn to think well catch scum easy before day 1, but honestly if were playing it that way, day 1 should be someone whose alignment we need to know the most, not someone whose guaranteed scum, I mean if your so certain geript is mafia just put him in slot 3(so hes at least guaranteed to be killed before town loses) and have 1 and 2 reserved for people with large influence but questionable loyalties. seriously bro? Not guaranteed scum? D1 is not some fucking egotripping lynch in which we lynch the loudest townie who thinks he fucking solved the game. Which you seem to indicate. If anything we lynch scum in the group of the best D1 player in the game and are guaranteed that he and the third are townies and giving an honest opinion. Which goes back to LYNCH FUCKING SCUM AND NOTHING ELSE. The goal for town is to win the game, those who blindly lynch those they THINK are scum rarely see the big picture and end up missing crucial points. If we had an honest guaranteed scum who wont tell us anything with his flip why kill him? Hes not going anywhere and it would be more important to use the lynch to answer questions. This is less true in other games because were not sure of all the variables, but here we know exactly how far we can push, the setup is utterly open and we need to catch relations(which are guaranteed to be there cause a third of us are scum) and encourage conversation to win, lynching "confirmed" scum does neither of these things. Honestly I'm just not convinced atm that Geript is scum / : so this whole conversation is irrelevant. I am also not convinced that geript is scum & this fact has nothing to do with the conversation we are having. What a silly statement to make.
Bolded is news to me.
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On April 02 2014 07:12 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 06:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 06:44 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 06:42 Palmar wrote: I like the redundant ~rayn part of your posts.
I'm okay with going in on day 1 with my group. It's by far my best day anyway. THANK YOU. Dammit why dont other people get this? Because should not be decided right now. D2 can be set in stone. D1 can't. D1 should be the group that has 2 people that are incredible easy to read as town and are confirmed town. I think discussing a D1 lynch group should be done after 35h in this game. That is exceptionally optimistic of you Rayn to think well catch scum easy before day 1, but honestly if were playing it that way, day 1 should be someone whose alignment we need to know the most, not someone whose guaranteed scum, I mean if your so certain geript is mafia just put him in slot 3(so hes at least guaranteed to be killed before town loses) and have 1 and 2 reserved for people with large influence but questionable loyalties. Information lynches sounds like a horrible idea. Just because if we lynch Geript and he flips green or red, that tells us jack shit. That being said I am perfectly fine with a Geript day one lynch
The most confusing thing for me is the sudden change from
On April 02 2014 06:49 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 06:46 raynpelikonoshi wrote: geript can we policy lynch you on D1 so we can all trust your insanely good reads?
~rayn Fuck no. Then we aren't lynching prplhz
On April 02 2014 06:58 getmoript wrote: Know what, I'm a lock. Lynch me. Know prplhz is scum then lynch Rayn and Slam. Make me mayor and I'll set it up. Like no way Rayn is town here.
It seems like Rayn caught him on some bullshit and geript decided to stick to the bullshit. To me it makes no sense for geript to promote lynching withing group 5 on anyone but prplhz as town. The easiest explanation is he wants to manufacture a town read (mafia would never commit suicide) rather than actually attempting to further the town win condition.
Another thing I have a huge concern about is that prplhz is probably the easiest target to push. His filter is a mess of contradictions as many people have pointed out. And geript seems to be picking at probably the most easiest thing to find rather than making legitimate reads
On April 02 2014 07:21 raynpelikonoshi wrote: I suggest we lynch Cell 4 first. Alakaslam is mafia. You can take this as a fact regardless of my & geript's alignment because we are clearly not both mafia, if one of us is mafia they are bussing because we know how the other one reads Slam and if we are both town the read is genuine either way.
If there is one thing i agree with geript it's that Slam is scum.
geript if you are town stop the shitlogic and find scum. Right now your cases are based on you not reading properly and bad logic as pointed out multiple times.
~rayn I have no idea what town is to gain from lynching Slam first. I admit that I can't read slam, so I'd be perfectly fine bandwagon a little off your read, however you remove me and balla from the equation quickly. If you are that confident that slam is mafia, a day 4 ( 3rd lynch) of cell 4 would be best allowing me and balla to contribute for more days.
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oh great you are in my group. that's really awesome tbh.
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On April 02 2014 07:18 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 07:17 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 07:16 prplhz wrote:On April 02 2014 07:12 Palmar wrote: how about you guys just let me be the major, and then I select my group to go first?
Also sentinel why do you think I'm unreadable? I'm like one of the most easy players on TL to read. you know, you can make reads on d1 even if you're not up for lynch on d1. Yes, but seeing as hes strongest on day 1 why not put him in the best position possible to use those strengths? okay now you just need to explain why he can better use his strong d1 if he's up for lynch on d1 than he can when he's up for lynch on d2,d3,etc
i'm going to leave now because everybody is ignoring me
also it's late
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On April 02 2014 07:29 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 07:26 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 07:24 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 07:16 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 07:12 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 06:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 06:44 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 06:42 Palmar wrote: I like the redundant ~rayn part of your posts.
I'm okay with going in on day 1 with my group. It's by far my best day anyway. THANK YOU. Dammit why dont other people get this? Because should not be decided right now. D2 can be set in stone. D1 can't. D1 should be the group that has 2 people that are incredible easy to read as town and are confirmed town. I think discussing a D1 lynch group should be done after 35h in this game. That is exceptionally optimistic of you Rayn to think well catch scum easy before day 1, but honestly if were playing it that way, day 1 should be someone whose alignment we need to know the most, not someone whose guaranteed scum, I mean if your so certain geript is mafia just put him in slot 3(so hes at least guaranteed to be killed before town loses) and have 1 and 2 reserved for people with large influence but questionable loyalties. seriously bro? Not guaranteed scum? D1 is not some fucking egotripping lynch in which we lynch the loudest townie who thinks he fucking solved the game. Which you seem to indicate. If anything we lynch scum in the group of the best D1 player in the game and are guaranteed that he and the third are townies and giving an honest opinion. Which goes back to LYNCH FUCKING SCUM AND NOTHING ELSE. The goal for town is to win the game, those who blindly lynch those they THINK are scum rarely see the big picture and end up missing crucial points. If we had an honest guaranteed scum who wont tell us anything with his flip why kill him? Hes not going anywhere and it would be more important to use the lynch to answer questions. This is less true in other games because were not sure of all the variables, but here we know exactly how far we can push, the setup is utterly open and we need to catch relations(which are guaranteed to be there cause a third of us are scum) and encourage conversation to win, lynching "confirmed" scum does neither of these things. Honestly I'm just not convinced atm that Geript is scum / : so this whole conversation is irrelevant. I am also not convinced that geript is scum & this fact has nothing to do with the conversation we are having. What a silly statement to make. Bolded is news to me. we are an hydra.
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On April 02 2014 07:25 Palmar wrote: Why is slam mafia btw rayn? Not happy. Happy Slam is town, sad Slam is mafia.
~rayn
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On April 02 2014 07:30 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 07:18 prplhz wrote:On April 02 2014 07:17 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 07:16 prplhz wrote:On April 02 2014 07:12 Palmar wrote: how about you guys just let me be the major, and then I select my group to go first?
Also sentinel why do you think I'm unreadable? I'm like one of the most easy players on TL to read. you know, you can make reads on d1 even if you're not up for lynch on d1. Yes, but seeing as hes strongest on day 1 why not put him in the best position possible to use those strengths? okay now you just need to explain why he can better use his strong d1 if he's up for lynch on d1 than he can when he's up for lynch on d2,d3,etc i'm going to leave now because everybody is ignoring me also it's late I totes made geript his post readable for you.
ps. I love how active you are.
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like, literally
getript gum lsb
all completely ignoring my posts
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Holy shit this hydra thing is confusing. Rayn thinks geript is mafia, Koshi thinks he isn't.
Or did I mis something?
WTF
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