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On April 08 2014 05:35 Holyflare wrote:
are you kidding me? he wouldn't care because you are pushing a lynch onto prpl and all ceph had to do was afk, votes are all on ceph > prpl so he's forced to return and defend
If by all you mean 1 vote differential then yes you are right.
Why are you making stuff up again?
Damn it, whenever it's lynch time confusing things happen.
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On April 08 2014 05:35 LSB wrote:No I do not know how to get your Honoured Alliance and Fought to the end relations so high+ Show Spoiler +I am testing out a new format since I find it interesting Okay. First of all there is no focus at all on My group or Holyflare's Group. I am going to assume that mafia were set on winning the first three groups. Either that or the Mafia are very comfortable with the people in the last two groups that they don't need to worry about anything. I feel like I am probably one of the best candidates for down in group 5, so I'm going to toss the second theory out. After all, before I started yelling a lot of people thought Rayn was town even though he was modkilled, and there was no way that Palmar knew that we would suddenly turn on him. If we do use this horrible associative WIFORM read, certaintly prplhz does look bad, as detailed by town members who are dead set on using associative reads Associative Reads: -10
Active- Look, most of the members of the game are lurking, and generally lurking is a great strategy for mafia if the town is lurking too. Since there are more lurkers than remaining mafia members it isn't a bad idea. That being said Prphz has lurked pretty hard this past day. Even though I was gone for essentially the entirety of today I don't feel like I missed much Active: +5 ( -3/Year)
"I totally knew Palmar was scum" Check out this post + Show Spoiler +On April 06 2014 10:26 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2014 09:56 getmoript wrote:On April 06 2014 09:45 gumshoe wrote:On April 06 2014 09:43 getmoript wrote:On April 06 2014 09:40 Holyflare wrote:On April 06 2014 09:36 getmoript wrote:
Hell did you see how many times his reads changed at the end. Like his first list of scumreads had both Ceph and me as scum. Like WTF. Then when you read that post it's even more full of total WTF. I don't think Sent is great as town, but I refuse to believe that he is that incapable or stupid as town. Like that's not in his game. Generally, when it comes between Dumb or Scum it's often more correct to assume the latter than the former. Stop being stupid. Palmar sheeped his scum read (me) on to sentinel to look towny but failed. The more you try and reason a town palmar the more likely mafia you are geript. So we should stop trying to reason things out and looking for scummy connections? Good to know. ~Cav No im reasoning with you here : D lets arrive at the truth together k? I'm trying to. Also, I'm going to post my thoughts on the other two in my cell. Cephiro really needs to talk more before we finalize our lynch, and his vote on Coag is complete bullshit because he didn't mention Coag at any point during his giant wall-of-text posts. I don't think he even acknowledged that Coag was in the game up until that point. We know nothing about him because he's hardly even playing. Prp was jumping around and being mega wishy-washy about Sentinel's lynch. These three posts: dunno maybe sent is scum
##Vote [UoN]Sentinel JOIN THE WAGON OF RIGHTEOUSNESS ON SENTINEL
A VOTE FOR SENTINEL IS A VOTE FOR VICTORY meh
##Vote Coagulation Are evidence of clear flimsy vote switching. Prp is scummy, but we know next to nothing about Cephiro other than his early game posts, and he pretty much coasted up until this point. Personally, I think there's plenty of information that makes the Cavborg look townie and prp look scummy. The only issue is that Ceph hasn't said shit other than those giant wall-of-text posts and a vote on Coag with no reasoning behind it. (Seriously the dude doesn't even admit that he's sheeping someone wtf?) With information like that in the thread, it's a little odd that people just go "Palmar was scum because Sentinel selfvoted meta meta meta." Sentinel's lynch was clearly a big deal to a certain someone, but we're all overlooking it because we think Palmar was scum. Honestly, what other reason would prp have to flip flop like that before the lynch? It's not the best evidence, but it seems solid enough to start asking more questions. Prp, why were you flip flopping around Sentinel's lynch? You seemed like you were dead-set on voting Sentinel off, and then you kinda flipped back to Coag for no particular reason. Elaborate more pls. ~Cav Yes. At the beginning of the day I filtered [UoN]Sentinel and concluded that he was town. That's why I didn't do much today, the lynch was going on Coagulation and I was perfectly happy with that. At the same time people were poking [UoN]Sentinel and Coagulation and I didn't think there was any reason for me to clutter the thread too much. I came into this thread tonight around 40 mins before deadline. I saw that Palmar had moved his vote to [UoN]Sentinel and I thought that this was a little odd because I had a firm town read on [UoN]Sentinel but at the same time I also had a firm town read on Palmar so I started doubting myself. In any case I noticed that it was 30 minutes since Palmar had moved his vote but no one else had moved their votes and I found this odd because Palmar's opinion usually carries a lot of weight. (Later I realized that it was because Palmar wasn't actually pushing [UoN]Sentinel but just placing his vote). I thought to myself that I didn't really know who to lynch. On one hand I thought [UoN]Sentinel was town but on the other hand my biggest town read thought he was scum. Anyway, I decided to vote for [UoN]Sentinel simply to see what would happen. Maybe scum wanted to switch away from Coagulation but were afraid to be first vote and maybe there was some information to gain from voting patterns. I did not believe that [UoN]Sentinel would be lynched at this point. Then suddenly three other people also switched their votes and I wrote to Palmar and asked him to remember to say if he saw anything suspicious. It was getting close to deadline and I didn't really know what was going on so I wanted his thoughts before he died. Then [UoN]Sentinel made a post that could only come from a townie, the one where he changed all of his reads and voted for himself. This convinced me that [UoN]Sentinel had to be town and I switched my vote back to Coagulation. I still didn't think there was any danger of a [UoN]Sentinel lynch at this point, I had counted 5-6 votes for [UoN]Sentinel and that left plenty of votes for Coagulation. Hence the flip flopping. I voted for [UoN]Sentinel because Palmar's vote had me doubting and because of curiosity, and I changed my vote back because [UoN]Sentinel made a post I don't think scum can make. That's also why, when Coagulation flipped town, I started thinking that Palmar had to be scum. Really? You decided to bandwangon [UoN]Sentinel because you concluded he is town. Suddenly people 'fall for your trap' and you conclude that palmar is mafia? Why would a random voteswitch from a townie to a (assumed) townie be indicative of mafia action? Seems like a really shitty reason to believe that Palmar is scum. Sure there is additional explination here but hindsight is 20/20 Likewise his case on steveling is so forshadowed I can hear the inception music. He starts off with the classic question "Can you give me reads on 9 people you have never thought deeply about right now or I call you scum" Show nested quote +On April 07 2014 02:21 prplhz wrote:
@Steveling What is your scumteam right now? Fabricated Claims: -25
Defensive Play Well, lastly I tried to look for what Prplhz thought of Geprit and Cephiro. I couldn't find anything. It is sad to think that Cephiro has more analysis on the group than Prplhz. After all your group you have a 50% chance of hitting mafia. As town, it is vitally important that you win your group and he hasn't been doing much to stick his head out and go after someone in his group. Show nested quote +On April 06 2014 17:44 prplhz wrote:
Decided that Cephiro is scum.
Lets make the lynch between Cephiro and me?
##Vote Cephiro Seems a really odd attitude for town to have Plotting against us! -15
The point system was meaningless. The only reason why I did it because I thought it was fun ##unvote##Vote Prplhz+ Show Spoiler [Bonus] +On April 07 2014 02:29 prplhz wrote:
List of people who give more than zero fucks: prplhz On April 08 2014 02:02 prplhz wrote:I'm out of this game, I just cannot read another gumshoe post. I don't think gumshoe is scum because it's impossible to fake this kind of dumb. I still think raynpelikonoshi was town. I think Steveling is scum. I think it is weird that Palmar changed his read on him in his last-reads-post without saying it in the thread. I also think it's weird that Steveling liked gumshoe's associative reads post on me so much, when Steveling didn't seem to agree with the scum reads in the post, especially Balla24 and mderg. If Holyflare doesn't get scum lynched today he's probably scum. Saying that I'm so town it hurts and then afking when he has the ability to get me off the hook is As for Balla24 inactivity: Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 06:28 Balla24 wrote:
Ill be away monday to tuesday so you should put me 2nd otherwise I will barely be around during my cells lynch. Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 06:58 Balla24 wrote:On April 04 2014 06:56 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 04 2014 06:35 Steveling wrote:
Alright sentinel, can't argue now, I'm off.
Ryankoshi weren't you saying our group would be first?
Do I get 3 more days to play in this logic forsaken game if you put us up as 2nd? That's the reason we go second. Again. I have an interview during slot 3 so unless you are confident I dont need to be there much do not put cell 4 3rd. Not gonna check this thread any more.
T_T Its just so beautiful.
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On April 08 2014 05:37 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 05:15 Holyflare wrote:
cephiro has information on palmar being scum and information after palmars lynch that he shouldn't have because he hasn't been here and if he was he could have posted about it
lynch cephiro with fire I never thought I would see an argument worse than "He claimed scum so he must be town". And "He seem town so he must be scum, and since he thought you were town you must be scum" however truely holyflare you have raised my expectations
please oh great one enlighten me!
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lsb's post is 1000000000x better than whatever gumshoe has been saying btw
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On April 08 2014 05:37 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 05:35 Holyflare wrote:
are you kidding me? he wouldn't care because you are pushing a lynch onto prpl and all ceph had to do was afk, votes are all on ceph > prpl so he's forced to return and defend If by all you mean 1 vote differential then yes you are right. Why are you making stuff up again? Damn it, whenever it's lynch time confusing things happen.
Whats confusing? Ceph doesnt give a shit cause hes busy town, nothing new there, we lynched coag yesterday so were not doing that again. If hes scum, why not vote Prplz, he came in here with an original read that he was the most likely to give
(this is his cell afterall) cephs play screams townie, he does not care about getting lynched, he only cares about bieng right.
Also he offered us all his reads to / : whereas prpl hasnt said jack about who he thinks is scum and isnt here (his resoning for cephiro was the its not him pretty much), hes just defended himself and denied shit like palmar and rayn were scum.
As for holy, hes saying everything in his imagination to get ceph lynched without even once considering prplz is town, he has been consistently wrong this game and a poisen in towns side, do not listen to him.
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On April 08 2014 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
lsb's post is 1000000000x better than whatever gumshoe has been saying btw
THE BUS IS REAL, THE BUS IS REAL. YEAAAAAAAAH.
Ready to vote Prplz : D
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We really need to lynch geript, everyone. He's not even trying right now since he's under no pressure from anyone but me. Get some votes on him and force him to talk.
It needs to happen. If he actually cared about this lynch and was so sure about me being scum, why isn't he here trying to get me lynched this very moment?
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Geript isn't scum, and there is no way we are moving this wagon all the way over there
Either vote for Prphlz or explain why you are 100% confident.
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On April 08 2014 05:51 LSB wrote:
Geript isn't scum, and there is no way we are moving this wagon all the way over there
Either vote for Prphlz or explain why you are 100% confident he is town.
EBWOP
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On April 08 2014 05:49 Cephiro wrote:
We really need to lynch geript, everyone. He's not even trying right now since he's under no pressure from anyone but me. Get some votes on him and force him to talk.
It needs to happen. If he actually cared about this lynch and was so sure about me being scum, why isn't he here trying to get me lynched this very moment?
Why is prlz not here right now arguing your lynch? We are not lynching Geript. Period.
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Well I really don't like getript.
But since you guys like him for some reason and it's not gonna happen
##vote: prplhz
Btw prplhz has ragequitted the game. That's a scumsign.
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On April 08 2014 05:49 Cephiro wrote:
We really need to lynch geript, everyone. He's not even trying right now since he's under no pressure from anyone but me. Get some votes on him and force him to talk.
It needs to happen. If he actually cared about this lynch and was so sure about me being scum, why isn't he here trying to get me lynched this very moment?
We do care about this lynch. We're just trying to decide which one of you we want to lynch.
G wants you dead, btw.
~Cav
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Also I dont think you realize but geript has been trying, hard, I am not budging because I know Prplz is scum, he makes the most sense. Furthermore what do you think of holys shit accusation against you?
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Never really wanted to lynch Cephiro. His latest posts also don´t seeem scummy.
##unvote
##vote: prplhz
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On April 08 2014 05:52 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 05:49 Cephiro wrote:
We really need to lynch geript, everyone. He's not even trying right now since he's under no pressure from anyone but me. Get some votes on him and force him to talk.
It needs to happen. If he actually cared about this lynch and was so sure about me being scum, why isn't he here trying to get me lynched this very moment? Why is prlz not here right now arguing your lynch? We are not lynching Geript. Period.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 08 2014 02:02 prplhz wrote:I'm out of this game, I just cannot read another gumshoe post. I don't think gumshoe is scum because it's impossible to fake this kind of dumb. I still think raynpelikonoshi was town. I think Steveling is scum. I think it is weird that Palmar changed his read on him in his last-reads-post without saying it in the thread. I also think it's weird that Steveling liked gumshoe's associative reads post on me so much, when Steveling didn't seem to agree with the scum reads in the post, especially Balla24 and mderg. If Holyflare doesn't get scum lynched today he's probably scum. Saying that I'm so town it hurts and then afking when he has the ability to get me off the hook is As for Balla24 inactivity: Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 06:28 Balla24 wrote:
Ill be away monday to tuesday so you should put me 2nd otherwise I will barely be around during my cells lynch. Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 06:58 Balla24 wrote:On April 04 2014 06:56 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 04 2014 06:35 Steveling wrote:
Alright sentinel, can't argue now, I'm off.
Ryankoshi weren't you saying our group would be first?
Do I get 3 more days to play in this logic forsaken game if you put us up as 2nd? That's the reason we go second. Again. I have an interview during slot 3 so unless you are confident I dont need to be there much do not put cell 4 3rd. Not gonna check this thread any more.
Because of you it seems. Geript on the other hand has not said that'd he'd be away or anything of the sort. I just don't see scum prplhz leaving it into the air like that, blatantly saying he won't be around anymore and not post anymore, when he said he'd make the lynch between me and himself.
Or are you saying that if he's scum instead of geript, he'd actually leave the job for his scumbuddies to ensure a mislynch on me? -> Prp & holy & ? & ? in this case?
It just seems too unlikely to me.
On April 08 2014 05:51 LSB wrote:
Geript isn't scum, and there is no way we are moving this wagon all the way over there
Either vote for Prphlz or explain why you are 100% confident.
How about you vote for geript or explain why you are 100% confident. I doubt you have reason to be 100% confident unless you're scum. I certainly am not, I am merely acting towards what I believe to be correct.
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On April 08 2014 05:54 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 05:49 Cephiro wrote:
We really need to lynch geript, everyone. He's not even trying right now since he's under no pressure from anyone but me. Get some votes on him and force him to talk.
It needs to happen. If he actually cared about this lynch and was so sure about me being scum, why isn't he here trying to get me lynched this very moment? We do care about this lynch. We're just trying to decide which one of you we want to lynch. G wants you dead, btw. ~Cav
I pray you can convince him otherwise ) : for all our sakes, god speed cavalinho, I knew you once as a doc who got outed by Geript wanting to lynch you when you were both town (huh, tell him about that time will ya? Seems relevant) but I know you today................ as hope : D
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if i claim scum and tell you you're about to lose the game will that make a difference to you? 
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##unvote
##vote prplhz
i'll trust cav on this one.
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On April 08 2014 04:44 Cephiro wrote:
Alright. I really don't see a scum prplhz taking the risk and forcing a lynch between me and him only. Surely, I've been extremely inactive, but if I haven't read the thread wrong there has been opinions back and forth. Especially combined with the straight-up admittance that he'd not be around for the lynch since a few hours ago.
Getmoript has also kept discussion about our own cell to the very minimum. Certainly, there is much less to go by as I haven't been posting and there is a lot of reason to provide reads for other cells, but it conviniently aligns up. If he considers himself to be in no threat of being lynched, why not spend the remainder of the time to prepare the following mislynches if he's mafia?
The one thing which is making me doubt my scumread on geript is the late votes on Coagulation after mine. prplhz and Steveling both ended up voting Coag and tipping the lynch on him.
Whom I think is scum in the remaining cells:
Cell 1: Steveling (Late vote, lots of overreacting emotional play, seems too over-the-top to be genuine to me.)
Cell 2: Tehpoofter (Hasn't convinced me at all since the start, mderg's later play looks more towny to me. HF is town.)
Cell 3: Balla24 (Hard to say due to the little content, I was suspicious of LSB but I ended up misreading his town play and pressured him as scum wrongly for a long time in the last game we were in and due to my non-committal I'm afraid I might be wrong on that again. Slam makes no sense like always, but something about it is giving me a townie vibe this time.)
##vote: geript
dude is convinced i'm town when nobody else is when he has no information other than reading! 
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