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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:18 GMT
#2901
On April 08 2014 05:14 Cephiro wrote:
Also I'm not looking to get excused, things happened and that's just how life goes sometimes. But it's why I'm here to do what I can while I still have the chance.

Why are you treating geript like it's a lynch that will never happen? As far as I've experienced, those are the very lynches that end up going wrong when people are certain that someone can't be lynched. To me it looks like there's more than enough people around.

I'm not going to give up on my read that easily. Lynch geript.


cephiro has information on palmar being scum and information after palmars lynch that he shouldn't have because he hasn't been here and if he was he could have posted about it

lynch cephiro with fire


This guy right here didnt give a shit till we started trying to lynch prplz, he has been pushing for you all day, do you think hes town? If prplz was town and geript was scum, why wouldnt he just sit back and let me take the blame for a mislynch?
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:21 GMT
#2902
On April 08 2014 05:17 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 05:15 Holyflare wrote:
cephiro has information on palmar being scum and information after palmars lynch that he shouldn't have because he hasn't been here and if he was he could have posted about it

lynch cephiro with fire


That's legit.
Which information you mean though?


He is lying, do not listen, what is cephs motive if hes scum? Walks into thread and starts a new wagon thereby ensuring his lynch because hes doing what he thinks is right? This play is fiercely independent, ceph is townier for it / : not scummier. Also
Holy are you saying that he didnt catchup on the thread before posting? wtf are you talking about.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:24 GMT
#2903
Geript? If prplz is scum, why is pushing you instead of prplz? Theyre is no reason to do that, the only explanation is he is following his own reads, just like you!

Now can you two get along?
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
April 07 2014 20:24 GMT
#2904
On April 08 2014 05:15 Holyflare wrote:
cephiro has information on palmar being scum and information after palmars lynch that he shouldn't have because he hasn't been here and if he was he could have posted about it

lynch cephiro with fire

He had enough time to catch up on most things, if he did just read this day.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:24 GMT
#2905
EBWOP

meant if ceph is scum.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:25 GMT
#2906
Watch holy attack me on that in 5 4 3 2 1!
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 07 2014 20:27 GMT
#2907
On April 08 2014 05:24 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 05:15 Holyflare wrote:
cephiro has information on palmar being scum and information after palmars lynch that he shouldn't have because he hasn't been here and if he was he could have posted about it

lynch cephiro with fire

He had enough time to catch up on most things, if he did just read this day.


That's true, we don't know when he started reading up.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
April 07 2014 20:28 GMT
#2908
On April 08 2014 05:15 Holyflare wrote:
cephiro has information on palmar being scum and information after palmars lynch that he shouldn't have because he hasn't been here and if he was he could have posted about it

lynch cephiro with fire


Just wow. Just because I haven't been posting and completely devoting myself to the game doesn't mean I don't have a general understanding of what has happened. It'd be absolutely retarded if I came here trying to convince you to lynch geript with having not read the thread at all, would it not?

The information is there, posted for everyone whom reads the thread to see it. Why should I not have it? That's a horrible accusation.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 07 2014 20:28 GMT
#2909
huh? what is there to lie about?

if he was around he should/could have posted at any point to stop us wasting time on his wagon and lynch his target (geript)

he afk voted coagulation and hasn't posted since then so he has no information regarding palmar being scum or what we said after coagulations lynch, unless he knew palmar was scum because he is scum.

the other explanation is that he did read the thread and knew everything that is going on but still didn't post till now anyway, in which case he is still scum
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 07 2014 20:29 GMT
#2910
You are making stuff up now HF, you accused gumshoe of this.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 07 2014 20:30 GMT
#2911
Like, you ignored gumshoe's hypothesis but you are making one now, claiming 100% for it.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:30 GMT
#2912
On April 08 2014 05:28 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 05:15 Holyflare wrote:
cephiro has information on palmar being scum and information after palmars lynch that he shouldn't have because he hasn't been here and if he was he could have posted about it

lynch cephiro with fire


Just wow. Just because I haven't been posting and completely devoting myself to the game doesn't mean I don't have a general understanding of what has happened. It'd be absolutely retarded if I came here trying to convince you to lynch geript with having not read the thread at all, would it not?

The information is there, posted for everyone whom reads the thread to see it. Why should I not have it? That's a horrible accusation.


BOOM, This is the guy who is happy so long as anybody but prplz is lynched. Holy flare is the number 1 player on tl, he is not this dumb.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 07 2014 20:31 GMT
#2913
his comeback stated:

On April 08 2014 04:00 Cephiro wrote:
Online till deadline from now. I figure I owe the other players at least that much.

There are several reasons for why I haven't been actively playing, but they're not of importance. I'll post my thoughts on today's lynch and the remaining cells in a moment. It will be brief.


if he cared and was catching up that many pages (it's been well over 30+ today and at the time around coags lynch) he would have posted something more substantial on his comeback, if he was town and cared he would post before he started reading to let us know that we could be expecting him


all evidence points to him just not caring about today at all
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:33 GMT
#2914
On April 08 2014 05:29 Steveling wrote:
You are making stuff up now HF, you accused gumshoe of this.


You know why hes doing this right? Cause if prplz is lynched, we no lynch, then lynch him and win. This is check mate right here. Thats why hes so despreate. Dude hasn't once considered prp scum even though he was the one who told us rayn and plam were scum (prps best buddies) for someone who says he doesnt care, holy clearly has an agenda, vote Prplz and we win the game.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 07 2014 20:34 GMT
#2915
[QUOTE]On April 08 2014 05:31 Holyflare wrote:
his comeback stated:

[QUOTE]On April 08 2014 04:00 Cephiro wrote:
Online till deadline from now. I figure I owe the other players at least that much.

There are several reasons for why I haven't been actively playing, but they're not of importance. I'll post my thoughts on today's lynch and the remaining cells in a moment. It will be brief.[/QUOTE]

if he cared and was catching up that many pages (it's been well over 30+ today and at the time around coags lynch) he would have posted something more substantial on his comeback, if he was town and cared he would post before he started reading to let us know that we could be expecting him


all evidence points to him just not caring about today at all[/QUOTE]

If he was scum why would he not care o_0 this is the day hed play hardest, what are you smoking right now Holy? I want some.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 07 2014 20:35 GMT
#2916
[image loading]

No I do not know how to get your Honoured Alliance and Fought to the end relations so high
+ Show Spoiler +
I am testing out a new format since I find it interesting


Okay. First of all there is no focus at all on My group or Holyflare's Group. I am going to assume that mafia were set on winning the first three groups. Either that or the Mafia are very comfortable with the people in the last two groups that they don't need to worry about anything. I feel like I am probably one of the best candidates for down in group 5, so I'm going to toss the second theory out.

After all, before I started yelling a lot of people thought Rayn was town even though he was modkilled, and there was no way that Palmar knew that we would suddenly turn on him.

If we do use this horrible associative WIFORM read, certaintly prplhz does look bad, as detailed by town members who are dead set on using associative reads

Associative Reads: -10




Active- Look, most of the members of the game are lurking, and generally lurking is a great strategy for mafia if the town is lurking too. Since there are more lurkers than remaining mafia members it isn't a bad idea. That being said Prphz has lurked pretty hard this past day. Even though I was gone for essentially the entirety of today I don't feel like I missed much

Active: +5 (-3/Year)




"I totally knew Palmar was scum" Check out this post
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 06 2014 10:26 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 09:56 getmoript wrote:
On April 06 2014 09:45 gumshoe wrote:
On April 06 2014 09:43 getmoript wrote:
On April 06 2014 09:40 Holyflare wrote:
On April 06 2014 09:36 getmoript wrote:
Hell did you see how many times his reads changed at the end. Like his first list of scumreads had both Ceph and me as scum. Like WTF. Then when you read that post it's even more full of total WTF. I don't think Sent is great as town, but I refuse to believe that he is that incapable or stupid as town. Like that's not in his game. Generally, when it comes between Dumb or Scum it's often more correct to assume the latter than the former.


Stop being stupid. Palmar sheeped his scum read (me) on to sentinel to look towny but failed. The more you try and reason a town palmar the more likely mafia you are geript.


So we should stop trying to reason things out and looking for scummy connections?

Good to know.

~Cav


No im reasoning with you here : D lets arrive at the truth together k?


I'm trying to. Also, I'm going to post my thoughts on the other two in my cell.

Cephiro really needs to talk more before we finalize our lynch, and his vote on Coag is complete bullshit because he didn't mention Coag at any point during his giant wall-of-text posts. I don't think he even acknowledged that Coag was in the game up until that point. We know nothing about him because he's hardly even playing.

Prp was jumping around and being mega wishy-washy about Sentinel's lynch. These three posts:

dunno maybe sent is scum

##Vote [UoN]Sentinel


JOIN THE WAGON OF RIGHTEOUSNESS ON SENTINEL

A VOTE FOR SENTINEL IS A VOTE FOR VICTORY


meh

##Vote Coagulation


Are evidence of clear flimsy vote switching. Prp is scummy, but we know next to nothing about Cephiro other than his early game posts, and he pretty much coasted up until this point.

Personally, I think there's plenty of information that makes the Cavborg look townie and prp look scummy. The only issue is that Ceph hasn't said shit other than those giant wall-of-text posts and a vote on Coag with no reasoning behind it. (Seriously the dude doesn't even admit that he's sheeping someone wtf?)

With information like that in the thread, it's a little odd that people just go "Palmar was scum because Sentinel selfvoted meta meta meta." Sentinel's lynch was clearly a big deal to a certain someone, but we're all overlooking it because we think Palmar was scum. Honestly, what other reason would prp have to flip flop like that before the lynch? It's not the best evidence, but it seems solid enough to start asking more questions.

Prp, why were you flip flopping around Sentinel's lynch? You seemed like you were dead-set on voting Sentinel off, and then you kinda flipped back to Coag for no particular reason. Elaborate more pls.

~Cav

Yes.

At the beginning of the day I filtered [UoN]Sentinel and concluded that he was town. That's why I didn't do much today, the lynch was going on Coagulation and I was perfectly happy with that. At the same time people were poking [UoN]Sentinel and Coagulation and I didn't think there was any reason for me to clutter the thread too much.

I came into this thread tonight around 40 mins before deadline. I saw that Palmar had moved his vote to [UoN]Sentinel and I thought that this was a little odd because I had a firm town read on [UoN]Sentinel but at the same time I also had a firm town read on Palmar so I started doubting myself. In any case I noticed that it was 30 minutes since Palmar had moved his vote but no one else had moved their votes and I found this odd because Palmar's opinion usually carries a lot of weight. (Later I realized that it was because Palmar wasn't actually pushing [UoN]Sentinel but just placing his vote). I thought to myself that I didn't really know who to lynch. On one hand I thought [UoN]Sentinel was town but on the other hand my biggest town read thought he was scum.

Anyway, I decided to vote for [UoN]Sentinel simply to see what would happen. Maybe scum wanted to switch away from Coagulation but were afraid to be first vote and maybe there was some information to gain from voting patterns. I did not believe that [UoN]Sentinel would be lynched at this point.

Then suddenly three other people also switched their votes and I wrote to Palmar and asked him to remember to say if he saw anything suspicious. It was getting close to deadline and I didn't really know what was going on so I wanted his thoughts before he died. Then [UoN]Sentinel made a post that could only come from a townie, the one where he changed all of his reads and voted for himself. This convinced me that [UoN]Sentinel had to be town and I switched my vote back to Coagulation. I still didn't think there was any danger of a [UoN]Sentinel lynch at this point, I had counted 5-6 votes for [UoN]Sentinel and that left plenty of votes for Coagulation.

Hence the flip flopping. I voted for [UoN]Sentinel because Palmar's vote had me doubting and because of curiosity, and I changed my vote back because [UoN]Sentinel made a post I don't think scum can make. That's also why, when Coagulation flipped town, I started thinking that Palmar had to be scum.


Really? You decided to bandwangon [UoN]Sentinel because you concluded he is town. Suddenly people 'fall for your trap' and you conclude that palmar is mafia? Why would a random voteswitch from a townie to a (assumed) townie be indicative of mafia action?

Seems like a really shitty reason to believe that Palmar is scum. Sure there is additional explination here but hindsight is 20/20

Likewise his case on steveling is so forshadowed I can hear the inception music. He starts off with the classic question "Can you give me reads on 9 people you have never thought deeply about right now or I call you scum"
On April 07 2014 02:21 prplhz wrote:
@Steveling What is your scumteam right now?


Fabricated Claims: -25


Defensive Play

Well, lastly I tried to look for what Prplhz thought of Geprit and Cephiro. I couldn't find anything. It is sad to think that Cephiro has more analysis on the group than Prplhz. After all your group you have a 50% chance of hitting mafia. As town, it is vitally important that you win your group and he hasn't been doing much to stick his head out and go after someone in his group.
On April 06 2014 17:44 prplhz wrote:
Decided that Cephiro is scum.

Lets make the lynch between Cephiro and me?

##Vote Cephiro

Seems a really odd attitude for town to have

Plotting against us! -15



The point system was meaningless. The only reason why I did it because I thought it was fun
##unvote
##Vote Prplhz

+ Show Spoiler [Bonus] +

On April 07 2014 02:29 prplhz wrote:
List of people who give more than zero fucks: prplhz

On April 08 2014 02:02 prplhz wrote:
I'm out of this game, I just cannot read another gumshoe post.

I don't think gumshoe is scum because it's impossible to fake this kind of dumb. I still think raynpelikonoshi was town. I think Steveling is scum. I think it is weird that Palmar changed his read on him in his last-reads-post without saying it in the thread. I also think it's weird that Steveling liked gumshoe's associative reads post on me so much, when Steveling didn't seem to agree with the scum reads in the post, especially Balla24 and mderg. If Holyflare doesn't get scum lynched today he's probably scum. Saying that I'm so town it hurts and then afking when he has the ability to get me off the hook is

As for Balla24 inactivity:

Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 06:28 Balla24 wrote:
Ill be away monday to tuesday so you should put me 2nd otherwise I will barely be around during my cells lynch.


Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 06:58 Balla24 wrote:
On April 04 2014 06:56 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On April 04 2014 06:35 Steveling wrote:
Alright sentinel, can't argue now, I'm off.

Ryankoshi weren't you saying our group would be first?
Do I get 3 more days to play in this logic forsaken game if you put us up as 2nd?

That's the reason we go second.

Again. I have an interview during slot 3 so unless you are confident I dont need to be there much do not put cell 4 3rd.


Not gonna check this thread any more.

Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 07 2014 20:35 GMT
#2917
are you kidding me? he wouldn't care because you are pushing a lynch onto prpl and all ceph had to do was afk, votes are all on ceph > prpl so he's forced to return and defend
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 07 2014 20:35 GMT
#2918
Wrong game.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 07 2014 20:36 GMT
#2919
No wait, what, lmao.
Nice format lsb.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 07 2014 20:37 GMT
#2920
On April 08 2014 05:15 Holyflare wrote:
cephiro has information on palmar being scum and information after palmars lynch that he shouldn't have because he hasn't been here and if he was he could have posted about it

lynch cephiro with fire

I never thought I would see an argument worse than "He claimed scum so he must be town". And "He seem town so he must be scum, and since he thought you were town you must be scum" however truely holyflare you have raised my expectations
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
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