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Hopeless1der
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On April 03 2014 06:40 Vivax wrote: Oh snap, didn't think of that, why do you call him cleared green when you caught up that notion though? It does make me feel less sure about his claim. Ignore kush for the moment. Your thoughts on Toad? | ||
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On April 03 2014 07:01 Vivax wrote: I prefer to focus on your thoughts, as in, if you think Toad is lynch-worthy then you shouldn't be asking me questions about him but rather trying to lynch him? Anyway, I wanna go over the bits you posted with you. ad 2) Can you point it out cause I couldn't find that accusation in Toad's filter. ad 3) If you read carefully you see it's not about thrawn just having a townread. Toad's main concern is that thrawn feels like saying first: "Hey, this guy is posting bullshit on a supertownie" and then he says "but I wouldn't lynch him cause of that because he went for strange trap play". Rehashing Toad's point, thrawn WOULD have considered a bad case on rayn lynch-worthy on its own, but he didn't scumread kita cause of his trap play. in Toad's own words: 2) On March 30 2014 15:44 Toadesstern wrote: well duh, that's not against the rules though and it's pretty common and happens all the time. The first part at least. The second part, who cares I've said so pregame anyways so you would have known. The second part yeah, but you don't know if I'm telling the truth, unless for some reason you do? That's the whole point of mafia, you shouldn't be able to tell if my reads are really my reads or if I'm making up some bullshit. It's literally the same thing, except that you apparently seem to know that I'm not lying about this? 3) Player K makes "bad" case on townread R. Thrawn is suspicious of K (reasonable). Thrawn thinks "bad" case is scummy. (reasonable). Thrawn assesses the relationship between "bad" and A, concludes A is not that scummy for "bad". Moves on to actual preferred lynch G. I don't see a huge scumread jumping out at me there. | ||
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On April 03 2014 08:02 Vivax wrote: This isn't even about you defending thrawn cause you actually can claim you aren't since you simply have shown why you disagree with Toad's case. But the point of it is that in all of this I don't see how you come to the conclusion that Toad could be scum. On April 03 2014 05:25 Djodref wrote: Could you tell me more about Toad ? I wasnt making a case, I was talking more about things I found interesting about Toad. Do you think I dont realize I didn't reach a conclusion? All of my points are pretty open-ended statements, more of a summary of things Toad has done that I maybe find scummy but didn't explicitly say that. | ||
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On April 03 2014 08:14 Vivax wrote: Toad doesn't have a vote. Or maybe kush stole his vote. All arguments I see as of now against him are 1. activity 2. he didn't push hopeless enough for your liking 3. some conclusion-less observations from hopeless which are more about his arguments on others rather than why he should be scum Until he gets in here and goes through my hermeneutic endless circle of being questioned to death until I'm satisfied I'm not scumreading him for that. 2. is pretty goddamn scummy if you ask me. | ||
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On April 03 2014 08:29 JarJarDrinks wrote: I'm gonna nuke you if you dont. empty threat | ||
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On April 01 2014 05:08 austinmcc wrote: The OP says everyone can request fake claims. You can request one and see what powers you are given. HAS NOBODY ELSE REQUESTED A FAKE CLAIM JUST FOR FUN? WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE DOING? GO GETCHER FAKE CLAIMS!!! If slam is a survivor, which we can't prove and he can't prove to us, and has a power which he can be forced to use in a pro-town way or can be confirmed by, which we don't know right now, then I believe he would have already said something about that. If people don't believe your crap, and you have a way to verify your crap, you don't keep doing this. You say "no guys, I can prove it. Ta da!" Your scenario is basically "What if slam can confirm he's not anti-town or not going to act anti-town, but ... hasn't noticed that." | ||
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Vivax, why is it okay for you to keep flipping the question when I ask you about Toad? Not EVERYTHING I do needs to push my agenda. I dont like cramming a case/reads down peoples throats. I think Toad is scummy. People think I am scummy. It doesnt matter that people are less retarded than we'd like to believe, logical fallacies will occur. If I phrase a statement without implying a conclusion it forces the reader to try to determine what my point is and also whether that point is more relevant to a scum or town mindset. | ||
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On April 03 2014 09:50 JarJarDrinks wrote: Here's what I'm getting @ w/ my line of questioning w/ hope. The way he words it sounds like he's saying everyone already received fakeclaims.Well I'm blue and I only received my role. I was not given any fakeclaim. Here he again seems to hint that he already has a fakeclaim: I think he read this from the OP and assumed everyone was given fakeclaims to start the game. I dont hint that I have one, I hint that I knew THIS is exactly where you were going with this line of questioning. It is completely transparent, but trying to claim I dont have a fakeclaim after saying "everyone has fakeclaims" looks stupid, so I had to run "no comment". I should have said "everyone has access to fakeclaims", but I typed that in the moment to point out why rayn's claim is in no way a reliable piece of information. | ||
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