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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 04 2014 22:24 GMT
#2120
Fuck's sake this game and its setup make me kinda angry, we know shit, the medic suicided, Toad didn't play, rayn voted for himself. We lose two blues in a night and hopeless just drives me crazy whenever I'm town in a game with him. I'm in an awful mood right now.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 04 2014 22:26 GMT
#2121
Hopeless who do we lynch today please post as much as you can whenever you can just spill out whatever is on your mind cause looking at your scum games you are perfectly able to push cases and shit (in fact I think you look different there but your last game as scum was 1 year ago)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 04 2014 22:29 GMT
#2122
Also hopeless you suggested I could be mafia, tell the reasons then say you pushed me so I would claim which kinda makes the whole reasons you posted pointless, plus the claim shouldn't have been alignment indicative to you at the time.

I mentioned this in a previous post.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 04 2014 22:59 GMT
#2126
I like your proposals for scum austin.

Btw I found the game where kita pushed me when I was scum and of which I mentioned earlier that I notice differences to this one in the way he pushes me and generally plays the game. I know it's in part subjective but it's the storngest impression I got of kita's town play.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/414632-roulette-mini-mafia?user=kitaman27&view=all
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 04 2014 23:03 GMT
#2127
Another thing I mentioned earlier is this post. I said it looked more like it was designed to look good and not hunt scum. Especially the "people of interest" part. Like, he mentions a fuckload of people doing potentially scummy things but doesn't move his attention to them afterwards, he prefers to stick to the rayn lynch.

On March 30 2014 15:54 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 15:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In case it's unclear. It's like normally people give you a puzzle to solve and slowly give you pieces to the puzzle along the way. Then they assume townies complete the puzzle and mafia tries to force the pieces in wrong order. kitaman gives you a puzzle, then he gives you pieces to 10 different puzzles and i don't even know if he wants you to try to solve the original puzzle.


lol you amuse me.

But you have it backwards. I'm simply trying to gather the pieces for myself. The puzzle is mine to solve.

As for your "web of disruption" post, it has a catchy name, but I'll respond once you come to an actual conclusion.

thrawn is off my naughty list for the moment.

People of interest:

Tehpoofter seems to be asking questions that I don't find all that interesting. His initial vote of slam seems a bit forced.

Amiko asking me or hope for the clarification doesn't seem scummy to me. We were probably just around. His lack of opinion and direction does appear scummy however.

Hopeless with his "do i need to go through the motions of totes serious voting to get a response?" conveys a kind of "look at me doing someone" without actually coming to a conclusion other than that I'm useless

slam...generally I try to ignore him and the last time I did so I believe he was mafia. Day one survivor claims are usually someone I would lynch, even if I thought they might be a survivor. My biggest worry is that he might be a trolly town who is willing to get lynched and doesn't care, but he wasn't willing to role claim when asked and shows signs of over frustration that doesn't appear genuine. I'll probably leave my vote on him, though we need to avoid the scenario where nobody is under pressure because the lynch is already decided.

kush is someone who usually gets on my nerves early and hasn't done so yet, which is a concern. I seem to remember him playing mafia and acting completely reasonable, but I'll have to look back to familiarize myself with some of his more recent games. In my opinion, thrawn and hope both overreacted to the random vote, yet kush doesn't draw the same conclusion by only expressing suspicion of thrawn. If slam is a survivor, then kush being the first one to defend him may make sense as mafia if he knows his alignment.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 04 2014 23:06 GMT
#2128
Hopeless if you read my post you are invited to give your opinion on what i'm posting on kita since iirc you don't want to lynch him cause you said he "seems like he's working towards a town goal"
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 05 2014 00:11 GMT
#2132
Thing with tehpoofter right now is he's talking about everything but not the stuff I wrote about kita who is supposedly his scumread, and that when I'm trying to discuss arguments for him being scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 05 2014 00:15 GMT
#2133
On April 03 2014 20:07 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 16:20 thrawn2112 wrote:
hey tehpoofter! are you around? did you get converted or something? why did you stop playing during D2



I'm around, sadly not converted as apparently we lost our shrink and doctor. That sucks gum played it like that with the name thing. I thought it was interesting kush can do the vote thing and shoot during the day that's a pretty strong town role imo. I think you pointed this out thrawn.

I think scum is somewhere between Vivax, Hopeless, Toad....
Vivax for reasons I've stated.

Toad because he's claiming to not have a vote that counts and he can't die at night that is like the tree stump role on epic mafia which is kinda useless and easy to claim as mafia (I have done it in video mafia on several occasions) cause you never have to explain why you're alive and you can no vote and absolve yourself of all responsibility. (I've been busy with work and other games so haven't had time to dive but have we confirmed Toad's vote doesn't count?)

Hopeless - I believe austin had a case on hopeless where he was around at day end voting on rayn after the claim saying it seemed fake without a cc. I was around then too and had been hard on rayn all day and wanted to get my vote off him to someone else (ended up on the doctor whoops) but still not on the claimed role.


Town for me is thrawn, kush, austin, amiko (tenatively cause of the heal and he seems to be piecing the game together)



On April 04 2014 05:41 Tehpoofter wrote:
bah this role claim stuff would happen while I'm commuting and starting work....

@DJO why do you think djo's role is maf sided?

##unvote
##vote kitaman


I'm not convinced any of the roles have to be blue even toads but if town lynches a third straight blue we're pretty much SoL.


I mean, he has me, Toad and hopeless as scumreads. When he comes back he votes kita when that vote doesn't have any effect, doesn't try to move people from Toad to him. And most of all he says he's not convinced that all roles have to be blue but that's the reason he doesn't want to lynch his former scumread.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 05 2014 00:17 GMT
#2134
Oh, and even better first he already believes Toad's claim and says the role is fake and can easily be claimed by mafia, then he uses that as reasoning to not vote for him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 05 2014 00:21 GMT
#2135
On April 05 2014 09:17 Vivax wrote:
Oh, and even better first he already believes Toad's claim and says the role is fake and can easily be claimed by mafia, then he uses that as reasoning to not vote for him.


EBWOP: Better formulated, he says at first that the role is useless and can be easily claimed by mafia, then he says he doesn't want to lynch Toad cause a third blue loss is bad for town or something (while his role was useless anyway)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 05 2014 01:24 GMT
#2137
On April 05 2014 10:23 kushm4sta wrote:
i got a scumometer


What does it do again?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 05 2014 01:36 GMT
#2141
I find it unlikely that you would be the guy Djo gives it to (he didn't super-townread you before the claim) but guess I gotta live with that.

I suggest we have a discussion on who to use it. What itches me is that you read kita as hella town.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 05 2014 01:45 GMT
#2148
On April 05 2014 10:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
why didn't you inform town that your vote was going to count twice on D1?


He did -.-

On another note I can see that being a town role so for now I'll roll with kush as town and guess at scum being kita/thrawn/poofter
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 05 2014 01:55 GMT
#2153
On April 05 2014 10:47 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 10:45 Vivax wrote:
On April 05 2014 10:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
why didn't you inform town that your vote was going to count twice on D1?


He did -.-

On another note I can see that being a town role so for now I'll roll with kush as town and guess at scum being kita/thrawn/poofter


no he didn't

and really? you think day vigs are town exclusive roles?


On April 01 2014 20:36 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 19:05 Tehpoofter wrote:
@everyone, who do you think would use the extra vote that occurred on rayn and why? There is basically a confirmed vote manipulation mechanic no one is claiming it and it was used to lynch a town blue so like no way I can see its town sided role.


I claim the extra vote.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 05 2014 01:55 GMT
#2154
I think that he's a town vig if he's the only vig.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 05 2014 01:56 GMT
#2156
Thrawn what do you think about my posts on kita.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 05 2014 03:19 GMT
#2173
On April 05 2014 11:54 Tehpoofter wrote:
As for kita I had him on my scum list on N1 and the start of day 1 I did list others as more suspicious but once claims started happening I decided lynching into any blues when we had already lost 2 (shrink/medic) wouldn't be good for town so I went on my top scumread outside the claims which was kita.

I'd be interested in theories on the night kills we had 0 then 2. I know the "lovers" role is common on epic mafia I'm not sure how it plays in here but thats one option for the 2 kills. I thought I read something in one of the flavor bits that might have pointed to it but I need to reread closer. I'm glad more people gave reads last night than the night before hopefully we can keep an eye on that and see who goes shifting around.


You said earlier that you thought Toad's role was useless for town anyway and can easily be fakeclaimed by scum, that would mean you magically changed your mind on Toad when he posted his whole PM, when actually the earlier post suggests it would be irrelevant.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 05 2014 03:25 GMT
#2177
Thrawn I'm still waiting for you to discuss with me what I posted about kita. Did you look at him? Anything that looks townlike/scumlike in your opinion?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 05 2014 03:27 GMT
#2179
On April 05 2014 12:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 12:22 austinmcc wrote: Especially if you think he was converted, then it would still be optimal for town to take out whoever is DOING the converting, and therefore, poofter is a fallback lynch for you and you want to be hunting for Da Mafia Boss.


that's just stupid

there is no way that if i think i've found mafia that I'm going to ignore that

and REALLY austin. I wish there were players in this game that knew me, they would be able to tell you that I am the worst conversion target ever on the forum.


This is the second time you say this. I was thinking whether I should see it as overdefensive but left it to null, on the other hand you are spending time defending yourself and don't wanna(?) talk about kita who was your scumread at least briefly.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 05 2014 03:29 GMT
#2181
You don't have to look at his filter, you only have to look at what I said. That huge post where he mentions multiple people but then only pushes rayn and seemingly doesn't care about them.
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