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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On April 04 2014 04:44 Hopeless1der wrote: I didnt think Toad would get lynched. At this point I'm probaly gonna get lynched. Are you town ? Do you have anything to claim ? I'm going to vote you. This is your last chance to change my mind. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On April 04 2014 04:43 Hopeless1der wrote: Sure it is, blues didnt start with claims. Not that I know whether scum did =\ When I was reading through your past games, I picked up on the fact that you got annoyed when someone tried to game the setup and use mod pms to confirm towns. Why are you perfectly fine with it here? | ||
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Vivax
22106 Posts
Hopeless admits blue, you ask him about fakeclaims. He says he won't tell and that he wonders why you're asking him this (is it cause you're blue and have no fakeclaim) Now I don't know who of you knew about the fakeclaim requesting stuff, which changes the interpretation of events in some way. you knew it, he knew it - nope, why would he refuse to tell you he has one if it's public knowledge that anyone can. you knew it, he didn't - etc. Anyway, considering how he didn't want to tell it's pretty obvious he didn't know it, but he probably justified it in some way? This is confusing I'll go reread. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On April 04 2014 04:48 kitaman27 wrote: At the beginning of day one, he argued that we should lynch mafia instead of slam and called a player scummy who settled for the easy slam lynch. Rather than pushing a mafia lynch at any point in the day, he chose to lynch slam mainly because it was better than the alternative. Then at the beginning of day two, he pushes for a slam nuke. If the only reason he wanted to lynch slam on day one was because he doesn't have any scum reads, why is he pushing a slam nuke, rather than using the 36 hours to find a scum read? He is reproducing the exact behavior he found scummy. that is so bad. he is scum for changing his mind? | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On April 04 2014 04:51 thrawn2112 wrote: I don't think that's what this says....that is so bad. he is scum for changing his mind? | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On April 04 2014 04:51 thrawn2112 wrote: that is so bad. he is scum for changing his mind? What do you mean? | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
i don't see anything wrong withvivax pushing to nuke slam? | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On April 04 2014 04:50 Vivax wrote: Ok.Hopeless admits blue, you ask him about fakeclaims. He says he won't tell and that he wonders why you're asking him this (is it cause you're blue and have no fakeclaim) Now I don't know who of you knew about the fakeclaim requesting stuff, which changes the interpretation of events in some way. you knew it, he knew it - nope, why would he refuse to tell you he has one if it's public knowledge that anyone can. you knew it, he didn't - etc. Anyway, considering how he didn't want to tell it's pretty obvious he didn't know it, but he probably justified it in some way? This is confusing I'll go reread. Yes I knew that we could request claims. I thought by his wording, he was implying that we already had the claims, Like they were given to us w/ our roles. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
I don't want yesterday to happen again, I mean I don't want Vivax to be lynch and the rest of the voters to be spread on other targets. Because I think he is town. I don't feel like I have enough traction to lynch Toad, so shall we reach a consensus and lynch Hopeless instead today ? I think there is a good momentum to consolidate on Hopeless now ! | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On April 04 2014 04:54 thrawn2112 wrote: It's more saying "slam isn't scummy/is the default lynch", doing nothing to indicate he'd moved away from that, saying we should lynch/kill scummy people over slam, then on D2 being fine just using KP on slam instead of hunting for scum before defaulting to slam.kita should be scumreading everyone in the thread if that's the logic he's using to read vivax i don't see anything wrong withvivax pushing to nuke slam? The play is ... inconsistent? If he doesn't think slam is scum and thinks we should be killing scum, then why nuke slam? People who think slam is scum or NEEDS to die can call for a nuke on slam because they actively want to kill slam. Vivax appears to NOT want to kill slam over mafia, but doesn't want to find mafia over killing slam. | ||
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Vivax
22106 Posts
I'm frantically trying to find reasons for not lynching him cause I'm scared of the blue claim. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On April 04 2014 04:48 Djodref wrote: Are you town ? Do you have anything to claim ? I'm going to vote you. This is your last chance to change my mind. Here's the real reason i wanted ot lynch vivax: I'm a modified watcher A targetted B Vivax Targetted B I know the role name of A. I do not actually know who A is or who A targetted. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
##vote Hopeless | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On April 04 2014 04:57 Vivax wrote: And where does hopeless call you scum JJD? I'm frantically trying to find reasons for not lynching him cause I'm scared of the blue claim. On April 03 2014 01:17 Hopeless1der wrote: it just feels so strange to see kush this well put together. At any rate, I dont think any scum were on rayn right now. I dont like JJD's accusations against kitaman. "Kita knows I'm town" when kita essentially said he'd push the low tier players and gave examples of who those players would be. "Kita retconned his case on rayn". I fundamentally disagree with this statement because Kita's case relied on the fact that he tried to get rayn to look into his meta and rayn refused to do so. It was an ongoing process that rayn never pursued him and that is what kita found scummy about rayn. So I'd want to lynch JJD for tunneling kita while being completely sure that he's right every step of the way. He never wavers, never reconsiders. I'd also lynch gumshoe for actively refusing to play this game. This should be self explanatory. On April 03 2014 03:47 Hopeless1der wrote: vivax are you scum with jjd? On April 03 2014 05:18 Hopeless1der wrote: I cant fathom wtf gumshoe was thinking. Whatever, kush confirmed town imo, amiko is pretty goddamn likely town. i'd like to lynch JJD or Toad. Toad because he keeps saying stuff like "i havent read that yet" but he's all up in thrawns grill for his read on rayn. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
I wish there'd been ... more. Would make this easier. Not playing isn't particularly alignment-indicative, but just sitting on a scumread for old reasons and never really updating is concerning. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On April 04 2014 04:57 thrawn2112 wrote: kita can you go read titanic? go look at scum vivax's filter and tell me if you still think he is mafia here. i'm mostly talking about the posts he made while under pressure of being lynched. I read GoT, Roulette and The Game since I was familiar with those. I skimmed a few, but don't think titanic was one of them. I'll take a look. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On April 04 2014 04:57 Hopeless1der wrote: This is difficult to read. Are you being cryptic on purpose or can you try to explain clearer or am I missing something?Here's the real reason i wanted ot lynch vivax: I'm a modified watcher A targetted B Vivax Targetted B I know the role name of A. I do not actually know who A is or who A targetted. It reads like you know "x role" visited someone, and "player Vivax visited someone", with both someones the same. But you don't know who the role belongs to and you don't know who...the role targeted? Wut? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On April 04 2014 04:57 austinmcc wrote: It's more saying "slam isn't scummy/is the default lynch", doing nothing to indicate he'd moved away from that, saying we should lynch/kill scummy people over slam, then on D2 being fine just using KP on slam instead of hunting for scum before defaulting to slam. The play is ... inconsistent? If he doesn't think slam is scum and thinks we should be killing scum, then why nuke slam? People who think slam is scum or NEEDS to die can call for a nuke on slam because they actively want to kill slam. Vivax appears to NOT want to kill slam over mafia, but doesn't want to find mafia over killing slam. ^ Ya this is what I'm saying. | ||
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