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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
April 03 2014 19:48 GMT
#1721
On April 04 2014 04:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 04:43 Djodref wrote:
@ Hopeless

Why did you start to vote Vivax with opportunistic posturing ?
You didn't believe in Toad lynch ?

I didnt think Toad would get lynched. At this point I'm probaly gonna get lynched.


Are you town ?
Do you have anything to claim ?
I'm going to vote you. This is your last chance to change my mind.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 03 2014 19:49 GMT
#1722
On April 04 2014 04:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 04:42 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 04 2014 04:32 Vivax wrote:
Hopeless later says he was hoping for someone to call him out for that cause he would townread him. JJD did call him out for it. Did hopeless say "wow bro u so town(also thanks for claiming blue to the thread)" to him? Nope.

So i'd like to hear some about this 1.


When I was talking about wanting a claim from slam, even for the sake of finding out what a fake claim could possibly sound like, austin pointed out that anyone could request one if they wanted it. With this knowledge in the thread, it really doesn't make sense that hope would decide to use the fakeclaim knowledge as a way to identify town like he is suggesting.

Sure it is, blues didnt start with claims. Not that I know whether scum did =\


When I was reading through your past games, I picked up on the fact that you got annoyed when someone tried to game the setup and use mod pms to confirm towns. Why are you perfectly fine with it here?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22218 Posts
April 03 2014 19:50 GMT
#1723
On April 04 2014 04:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 04:29 Vivax wrote:
Also I would like to know when hopeless found out that everybody has fakeclaims, and if you actually knew that too when you confronted hopeless.
Um what?


Hopeless admits blue, you ask him about fakeclaims. He says he won't tell and that he wonders why you're asking him this (is it cause you're blue and have no fakeclaim)

Now I don't know who of you knew about the fakeclaim requesting stuff, which changes the interpretation of events in some way.

you knew it, he knew it - nope, why would he refuse to tell you he has one if it's public knowledge that anyone can.
you knew it, he didn't - etc.

Anyway, considering how he didn't want to tell it's pretty obvious he didn't know it, but he probably justified it in some way? This is confusing I'll go reread.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 03 2014 19:51 GMT
#1724
On April 04 2014 04:48 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 04:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
hey kita. can you give me your bestest best reason for thinking vivax is mafia?


At the beginning of day one, he argued that we should lynch mafia instead of slam and called a player scummy who settled for the easy slam lynch. Rather than pushing a mafia lynch at any point in the day, he chose to lynch slam mainly because it was better than the alternative.

Then at the beginning of day two, he pushes for a slam nuke. If the only reason he wanted to lynch slam on day one was because he doesn't have any scum reads, why is he pushing a slam nuke, rather than using the 36 hours to find a scum read? He is reproducing the exact behavior he found scummy.


that is so bad.

he is scum for changing his mind?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 03 2014 19:51 GMT
#1725
On April 04 2014 04:51 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 04:48 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 04 2014 04:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
hey kita. can you give me your bestest best reason for thinking vivax is mafia?


At the beginning of day one, he argued that we should lynch mafia instead of slam and called a player scummy who settled for the easy slam lynch. Rather than pushing a mafia lynch at any point in the day, he chose to lynch slam mainly because it was better than the alternative.

Then at the beginning of day two, he pushes for a slam nuke. If the only reason he wanted to lynch slam on day one was because he doesn't have any scum reads, why is he pushing a slam nuke, rather than using the 36 hours to find a scum read? He is reproducing the exact behavior he found scummy.


that is so bad.

he is scum for changing his mind?
I don't think that's what this says....
Fe fi fo fum.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
April 03 2014 19:52 GMT
#1726
lol thrawn, you wanna lynch kita instead ?
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 03 2014 19:53 GMT
#1727
On April 04 2014 04:51 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 04:48 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 04 2014 04:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
hey kita. can you give me your bestest best reason for thinking vivax is mafia?


At the beginning of day one, he argued that we should lynch mafia instead of slam and called a player scummy who settled for the easy slam lynch. Rather than pushing a mafia lynch at any point in the day, he chose to lynch slam mainly because it was better than the alternative.

Then at the beginning of day two, he pushes for a slam nuke. If the only reason he wanted to lynch slam on day one was because he doesn't have any scum reads, why is he pushing a slam nuke, rather than using the 36 hours to find a scum read? He is reproducing the exact behavior he found scummy.


that is so bad.

he is scum for changing his mind?


What do you mean?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 03 2014 19:54 GMT
#1728
kita should be scumreading everyone in the thread if that's the logic he's using to read vivax

i don't see anything wrong withvivax pushing to nuke slam?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 03 2014 19:54 GMT
#1729
On April 04 2014 04:50 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 04:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On April 04 2014 04:29 Vivax wrote:
Also I would like to know when hopeless found out that everybody has fakeclaims, and if you actually knew that too when you confronted hopeless.
Um what?


Hopeless admits blue, you ask him about fakeclaims. He says he won't tell and that he wonders why you're asking him this (is it cause you're blue and have no fakeclaim)

Now I don't know who of you knew about the fakeclaim requesting stuff, which changes the interpretation of events in some way.

you knew it, he knew it - nope, why would he refuse to tell you he has one if it's public knowledge that anyone can.
you knew it, he didn't - etc.

Anyway, considering how he didn't want to tell it's pretty obvious he didn't know it, but he probably justified it in some way? This is confusing I'll go reread.
Ok.

Yes I knew that we could request claims. I thought by his wording, he was implying that we already had the claims, Like they were given to us w/ our roles.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
April 03 2014 19:56 GMT
#1730
Hey, kita !
I don't want yesterday to happen again, I mean I don't want Vivax to be lynch and the rest of the voters to be spread on other targets. Because I think he is town.
I don't feel like I have enough traction to lynch Toad, so shall we reach a consensus and lynch Hopeless instead today ?
I think there is a good momentum to consolidate on Hopeless now !
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 03 2014 19:57 GMT
#1731
On April 04 2014 04:54 thrawn2112 wrote:
kita should be scumreading everyone in the thread if that's the logic he's using to read vivax

i don't see anything wrong withvivax pushing to nuke slam?
It's more saying "slam isn't scummy/is the default lynch", doing nothing to indicate he'd moved away from that, saying we should lynch/kill scummy people over slam, then on D2 being fine just using KP on slam instead of hunting for scum before defaulting to slam.

The play is ... inconsistent? If he doesn't think slam is scum and thinks we should be killing scum, then why nuke slam?

People who think slam is scum or NEEDS to die can call for a nuke on slam because they actively want to kill slam. Vivax appears to NOT want to kill slam over mafia, but doesn't want to find mafia over killing slam.
Fe fi fo fum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22218 Posts
April 03 2014 19:57 GMT
#1732
And where does hopeless call you scum JJD?

I'm frantically trying to find reasons for not lynching him cause I'm scared of the blue claim.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 03 2014 19:57 GMT
#1733
On April 04 2014 04:48 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 04:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 04 2014 04:43 Djodref wrote:
@ Hopeless

Why did you start to vote Vivax with opportunistic posturing ?
You didn't believe in Toad lynch ?

I didnt think Toad would get lynched. At this point I'm probaly gonna get lynched.


Are you town ?
Do you have anything to claim ?
I'm going to vote you. This is your last chance to change my mind.

Here's the real reason i wanted ot lynch vivax:
I'm a modified watcher

A targetted B
Vivax Targetted B

I know the role name of A.

I do not actually know who A is or who A targetted.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 03 2014 19:57 GMT
#1734
kita can you go read titanic? go look at scum vivax's filter and tell me if you still think he is mafia here. i'm mostly talking about the posts he made while under pressure of being lynched.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
April 03 2014 19:57 GMT
#1735
EBWOP
##vote Hopeless
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 03 2014 19:58 GMT
#1736
On April 04 2014 04:57 Vivax wrote:
And where does hopeless call you scum JJD?

I'm frantically trying to find reasons for not lynching him cause I'm scared of the blue claim.
On April 03 2014 01:17 Hopeless1der wrote:
it just feels so strange to see kush this well put together. At any rate, I dont think any scum were on rayn right now.

I dont like JJD's accusations against kitaman.
"Kita knows I'm town" when kita essentially said he'd push the low tier players and gave examples of who those players would be.
"Kita retconned his case on rayn". I fundamentally disagree with this statement because Kita's case relied on the fact that he tried to get rayn to look into his meta and rayn refused to do so. It was an ongoing process that rayn never pursued him and that is what kita found scummy about rayn.

So I'd want to lynch JJD for tunneling kita while being completely sure that he's right every step of the way. He never wavers, never reconsiders.

I'd also lynch gumshoe for actively refusing to play this game. This should be self explanatory.

On April 03 2014 03:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
vivax are you scum with jjd?

On April 03 2014 05:18 Hopeless1der wrote:
I cant fathom wtf gumshoe was thinking. Whatever, kush confirmed town imo, amiko is pretty goddamn likely town. i'd like to lynch JJD or Toad.

Toad because he keeps saying stuff like "i havent read that yet" but he's all up in thrawns grill for his read on rayn.


austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 03 2014 19:58 GMT
#1737
Toad's filter is so mega butt at times, like his hopeless read is basically little more than those first two posts. He calls hopeless out on em, fine, then later explains in detail why a two line post is super scummy (fine), and then today just goes on hopeless again.

I wish there'd been ... more. Would make this easier. Not playing isn't particularly alignment-indicative, but just sitting on a scumread for old reasons and never really updating is concerning.
Fe fi fo fum.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 03 2014 19:59 GMT
#1738
On April 04 2014 04:57 thrawn2112 wrote:
kita can you go read titanic? go look at scum vivax's filter and tell me if you still think he is mafia here. i'm mostly talking about the posts he made while under pressure of being lynched.


I read GoT, Roulette and The Game since I was familiar with those. I skimmed a few, but don't think titanic was one of them. I'll take a look.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 03 2014 20:00 GMT
#1739
On April 04 2014 04:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 04:48 Djodref wrote:
On April 04 2014 04:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 04 2014 04:43 Djodref wrote:
@ Hopeless

Why did you start to vote Vivax with opportunistic posturing ?
You didn't believe in Toad lynch ?

I didnt think Toad would get lynched. At this point I'm probaly gonna get lynched.


Are you town ?
Do you have anything to claim ?
I'm going to vote you. This is your last chance to change my mind.

Here's the real reason i wanted ot lynch vivax:
I'm a modified watcher

A targetted B
Vivax Targetted B

I know the role name of A.

I do not actually know who A is or who A targetted.
This is difficult to read. Are you being cryptic on purpose or can you try to explain clearer or am I missing something?

It reads like you know "x role" visited someone, and "player Vivax visited someone", with both someones the same.

But you don't know who the role belongs to and you don't know who...the role targeted? Wut?
Fe fi fo fum.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 03 2014 20:01 GMT
#1740
On April 04 2014 04:57 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 04:54 thrawn2112 wrote:
kita should be scumreading everyone in the thread if that's the logic he's using to read vivax

i don't see anything wrong withvivax pushing to nuke slam?
It's more saying "slam isn't scummy/is the default lynch", doing nothing to indicate he'd moved away from that, saying we should lynch/kill scummy people over slam, then on D2 being fine just using KP on slam instead of hunting for scum before defaulting to slam.

The play is ... inconsistent? If he doesn't think slam is scum and thinks we should be killing scum, then why nuke slam?

People who think slam is scum or NEEDS to die can call for a nuke on slam because they actively want to kill slam. Vivax appears to NOT want to kill slam over mafia, but doesn't want to find mafia over killing slam.


^ Ya this is what I'm saying.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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