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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 31 2014 08:39 GMT
#681
well I just read tehpoofter' and kita's filters. i think I'm way more open to the idea of kita being mafia, somehow I didn't realize that he voted for and is still voting for slam only because slam doesn;t want to post his role PM

i don't really have strong feelings about anyone being mafia though lol. idk wtf is going on o.0
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 31 2014 08:55 GMT
#682
On March 31 2014 13:27 JarJarDrinks wrote:
[snip]

tehpoof - it's been kinda mentioned, but this really sounds like a scumslip to me
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 03:05 Tehpoofter wrote:
On March 31 2014 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
kush lynching a third faction has nothing to do with scumhunting.


I agree we should lynch the guy wanting to kill not mafia.

like my first thought after reading alaskas claim was "What if he's lying?" poofter doesn't even seem to consider it. Which is even stranger since he had a pretty strong scumread on alaska to begin with:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 12:20 Tehpoofter wrote:
So Things I know about Alakaslam:

1) He says he loves being mafia errr cyberman.
2) Based on the huge sample size of 1 game I've played with Slam he posted never as town.


He seems happy and has posted more in 14 pages than he did in 200+ pages last game as town.
Clear mafia here!!! WE GOT EM BOYS!!!

## Vote: Alakaslam


Like, how does he go from that to "Oh ur 3rd party? ok lets lynch rayn for pushing you!" ???

More tomorrow.


I don't like JarJar at the moment. His analysis of poof is misinterpreting what really happened.
The so-called "slip" of poof is totally reasonable because rayn was pushing slam lynch while using "we should lynch the survivor" argument the most. The way rayn is bringing this up, poof has totally the right to call him "the guy wanting to kill not mafia". He is not speaking about Slam here, but about his perception of rayn's play.
On top of that, JarJar is nitpicking poof filter to point out some contradiction, but the post is quoted is one of the first posts made into this game and is hardly irrelevant.
tl;dr
JarJar is misinterpreting what happened in the thread, and also nit picking filters to look like he is scumhunting.
JarJar is likely scum.

##unvote
##vote JarJar


Who is in this with me ?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 31 2014 08:57 GMT
#683
No he doesn't and didn't.
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 31 2014 09:03 GMT
#684
see rayn? i think most things djo has done except the possible blue slip are scummy. his entire case on jarjar is a soft defense of tehpoofter which is how lots of scum make cases
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
March 31 2014 09:14 GMT
#685
On March 31 2014 12:20 austinmcc wrote:
Hey slam, I have the ability to make up an item every day and pretend to give it to someone. I will pretend to give you a made-up item if you will assist me.

Today I have made up the Cerulean Rectangular Prism
[image loading]


I will pretend to give you the Cerulean Rectangular Prism in exchange for you completing the following mission. All relevant information for your mission is contained in the following points:

(1) I have read the thread.

(2) I have summoned forth a mighty frowny face at the focus on slam's claim, mass claiming, and whatever rayn is doing or not doing.

(3) Lo, I am not particularly townie on the filter of one tefpoofter. I believe it shows a lot of tiny questions that appear to have little followup or little reason to really be asked, they appear to be questions asked just so that questions could be asked.


Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to sally forth into The Hinterlands and report your findings to me.



Which posts are you referring to here where I ask questions and don't follow up after an answer?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
March 31 2014 09:18 GMT
#686
On March 31 2014 13:27 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Hey, I just caught up to everything but sorry my weekend has been busy and I don't have much time tonight. Will be able to participate all day tomorrow when I get to work but gonna give some initial reads:

Rayn - I don't think scum would have the balls to push hard for a massclaim. I also agree w/ alot of what he's saying. In particular the stuff about alaska. top town read atm

alaskaslam - Yeah I don't see how we don't lynch him. I'm always about the low risk play. Basically he's either mafia or not town. Lynching him is pretty automatic IMO

tehpoof - it's been kinda mentioned, but this really sounds like a scumslip to me
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 03:05 Tehpoofter wrote:
On March 31 2014 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
kush lynching a third faction has nothing to do with scumhunting.


I agree we should lynch the guy wanting to kill not mafia.

like my first thought after reading alaskas claim was "What if he's lying?" poofter doesn't even seem to consider it. Which is even stranger since he had a pretty strong scumread on alaska to begin with:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 12:20 Tehpoofter wrote:
So Things I know about Alakaslam:

1) He says he loves being mafia errr cyberman.
2) Based on the huge sample size of 1 game I've played with Slam he posted never as town.


He seems happy and has posted more in 14 pages than he did in 200+ pages last game as town.
Clear mafia here!!! WE GOT EM BOYS!!!

## Vote: Alakaslam


Like, how does he go from that to "Oh ur 3rd party? ok lets lynch rayn for pushing you!" ???

More tomorrow.


I stated my reasons for thinking it was scummy of rayn to want to auto lynch the survivor when looking for scum should be priority day 1 and survivor isn't technically scum. You took that quote out of context but DJO describes nicely what was going on as he was reading the thread. I had a scum read on slam in the sense that I voted for him at the start of the day idk seems like a weird read.

Jar Jar lets assume for a second you're wrong on me who else would be scum?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 31 2014 09:20 GMT
#687
On March 31 2014 18:03 thrawn2112 wrote:
see rayn? i think most things djo has done except the possible blue slip are scummy. his entire case on jarjar is a soft defense of tehpoofter which is how lots of scum make cases


Could we agree on the fact that JarJar quoted one of the very first post of poof, which was not very relevant when it was posted in the course of the thread, to point out a contradiction which doesn't exist ?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
March 31 2014 09:21 GMT
#688
On March 31 2014 16:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Even if every scum have a role what scum claims blue in their first post?


It could be a ploy to make blues feel more comfortable about claiming or something because they figure everyone else has a role. <<the Devil's advocate position however I don't really see that being a viable option. Maybe I like DJO cause he defended me but I have him as town.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
March 31 2014 09:24 GMT
#689
On March 31 2014 16:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
austin looks really good. I am surprised i get what he is saying.

tehpoofer actually is probably scum. He tells me to do scumhunting. Surprise surprise i think i have done the most scumhunting in this game hands down. He has talked about nothing than me, he bases his read on me on one game (rofl), noone agrees with him on his read, yet his meta read must be correct. ^^ I could write a bigger case but i don't wanna do that right now. Basically he keeps flip-flopping over same things over and over again, when i tell him why they are wrong he forgets them for a while and then they suddenly just reappear. He is saying maybe two things and nothing else in this game.

I agree with whoever said (austin?) that Hopeless is town. While i think his play is completely useless and idiotic he is town.

JJD also looks okayish.

so kita and tehpoofer are most likely scum. maybe gumshoe.



I would love to hear your bigger case rayn. This is what I mean that is different from last game... your heart is either not as into this game or you're a different alignment than last time. The rayn from the game I played was more than happy to bring up a whole case on someone even if it was a massive wall of texts and then scream at the town for not realizing they're scum. This isn't what you're doing this game... its different and its the only meta I know for you. The Way I play mafia is assessing how people play different alignments and roles and compare them between games along with the information in the thread to attempt to make a read. Thus far you are different than last game where you were basically the whole town. IF I have a read you do X as town and then you do Y instead should I draw a different conclusion?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 31 2014 09:28 GMT
#690
I'm gonna watch the SPL playoffs now so don't hesitate to shoot questions for me in the meantime.
I'll address them in the breaks or when it's finished
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
March 31 2014 09:30 GMT
#691
On March 31 2014 16:52 thrawn2112 wrote:
idk. i think tehpoofter is more involved in the thread than a lot of people. he's definitely more engaged than he was in that last game. i'm not getting the same 'newbie town' vibe that I instantly got from him last game but traces of it are still there. like i think he's town, but he might just be more confident now and that's interfering with my noob reading abilities.

and you think he is scum because his read of you is based on poor meta reasoning? lol would you expect him to have a good understanding of meta?


You're not allowed to play in games where I don't roll town thrawn this is the 2nd game you've known my alignment very very quickly before anyone else. (This is assuming my read on you is right that you're actually town this game)

@Thrawn am I just misreading DJO? I feel like his play this game is similar to his last game where he was ML, but maybe i'm biased cause he defended me. What would you say is something scummy DJO has done that plops him into the suspect list (aside from his case in the form of a defense of a townie)?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
March 31 2014 09:32 GMT
#692
@DJO I'm interested in what you read on Austin/Hopeless is?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
March 31 2014 09:44 GMT
#693
@Jar Jar and Austin since you too didn't post much at the start of the day and ended up thinking I was scummy. IF you guys think I'm actually scum do you think its better for town to vote for me today or for Slam and his claimed survivor role? Essentially is it worth it going after a scummy read vs a 3rd party claim by Slam?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
March 31 2014 09:46 GMT
#694
EBWOP: two*

Also probably going to head out for bed I'll be back a couple hours before the deadline.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 31 2014 09:58 GMT
#695
On March 31 2014 18:24 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 16:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
austin looks really good. I am surprised i get what he is saying.

tehpoofer actually is probably scum. He tells me to do scumhunting. Surprise surprise i think i have done the most scumhunting in this game hands down. He has talked about nothing than me, he bases his read on me on one game (rofl), noone agrees with him on his read, yet his meta read must be correct. ^^ I could write a bigger case but i don't wanna do that right now. Basically he keeps flip-flopping over same things over and over again, when i tell him why they are wrong he forgets them for a while and then they suddenly just reappear. He is saying maybe two things and nothing else in this game.

I agree with whoever said (austin?) that Hopeless is town. While i think his play is completely useless and idiotic he is town.

JJD also looks okayish.

so kita and tehpoofer are most likely scum. maybe gumshoe.



I would love to hear your bigger case rayn. This is what I mean that is different from last game... your heart is either not as into this game or you're a different alignment than last time. The rayn from the game I played was more than happy to bring up a whole case on someone even if it was a massive wall of texts and then scream at the town for not realizing they're scum. This isn't what you're doing this game... its different and its the only meta I know for you. The Way I play mafia is assessing how people play different alignments and roles and compare them between games along with the information in the thread to attempt to make a read. Thus far you are different than last game where you were basically the whole town. IF I have a read you do X as town and then you do Y instead should I draw a different conclusion?

Not necessarily.
table for two on a tv tray
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 31 2014 10:19 GMT
#696
On March 31 2014 18:32 Tehpoofter wrote:
@DJO I'm interested in what you read on Austin/Hopeless is?


Regarding austin, I would like him to interact with more people than Slam and thrawn. I like the fact that he doesn't believe the survivor claim. I don't have problems with him questioning your alignment. But I need more posts from him. I would say slightly town for Austin.
@austin
What were your motivations to interact with Slam ?

I believe myself Slam is 3P, but not such thing as simple as a survivor. Again, I would like him to claim his exact wincon. But that's not the topic.

Regarding Hopeless, he looks disgruntled by the direction this game is taking for this first day (i.e. a lynch on Slam) and he is openly not putting much effort into the game for now. I could see town Hopeless doing that for various reasons. But it's also easy to do this as scum. So null for the moment on Hopeless, and I hope he can step up a little in the future. I don't mind him playing like this at the moment.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 31 2014 10:43 GMT
#697
meh maybe poofer is town after all. He has probably the most posts and to a relatively new player it's highly unlike he is scum.
table for two on a tv tray
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 31 2014 11:21 GMT
#698
Vote Count

Alakaslam (3) - Toadesstern, kushm4sta, Tehpoofter, thrawn2112, kitaman27, raynpelikoneet, Djodref, Amiko
raynpelikoneet (3) - kitaman27, thrawn2112, Alakaslam, Toadesstern, kushm4sta, Alakaslam, Tehpoofter
Hopeless1der (1) - Toadesstern, raynpelikoneet, Toadesstern, thrawn2112
JarJarDrinks (1) - Djodref
kitaman27 (0) - raynpelikoneet
thrawn2112 (0) - kitaman27
Toadesstern (0) - raynpelikoneet


Not Voting (6) - austinmcc, Hopeless1der, thrawn2112, JarJarDrinks, Vivax, gumshoe


Currently Alakaslam is set to be lynched!


Day ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
March 31 2014 12:25 GMT
#699
On March 30 2014 06:24 Hopeless1der wrote:
lol slam confirmed town - does not read thread


On March 30 2014 06:27 Alakaslam wrote:
Well seeing that bullshit ends now then.

Rayn wtf. You always know my alignment uncanny early. You couldn't get my mood from anything yet?

Hopeless what indication do you have that makes my lynch understandable?

Toad same question. Don't go slandering saying I still don't help town. I'm not gonna be an NK in that yeah I generally suxxor but apparently there is a meta I can't fight so ppl will know im town in time. On the other hand you guys blatantly LHF the first guy Rayn prods- note he didn't vote me himself!

Rayn likely town but you guys make me think this gaem b ez


On March 30 2014 06:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
slam i called you town right afterwards and didnt vote you to begin with
big whoop, wanna fight about it?


On March 30 2014 20:45 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 06:24 Hopeless1der wrote:
lol slam confirmed town - does not read thread


Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 09:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
On March 30 2014 08:28 Amiko wrote:
@kitaman27 or @Hopeless1der: I don't really get the interactions between rayn & slam, if it's important can you explain it to me (or if it doesn't matter can you let me know)?

I can't vouch for slams blabbering about meta reasons for his 1vs1 with rayn but slam is largely unreadable/incomprehensible around 95% of the time and it generally becomes necessary to burn a lynch on him...before lylo if possible.


Is that first post a joke?


On March 30 2014 22:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
Yes vivax, is joke.

Toad you want to explain why I'm scummy? Foolishness-hydra modkill bullshit notwithstanding you've quotes 2 posts and said "lynch dis"



On March 31 2014 06:12 Toadesstern wrote:
about hopeless:

Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 06:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
slam i called you town right afterwards and didnt vote you to begin with

big whoop, wanna fight about it?

The reason that this is a lynch for me is because noone else gave a crap about what alakaslam was posting while hopeless does sound somewhat defensive here. Pointing out that he did call him town afterwards in a way that reeks of buddy without being funny/trollish about it. I really don't like how serious this first sentence is phrased, a sentence that is about nothing but telling slam that hopeless got a townread on slam like he's trying to not get in trouble because of some random crap while noone else seemed to care about it because it's slam we're talking about here.


I can see where Toad is coming from with his argument, but I want to hear if anybody else thinksfor example that hopeless telling he doesn't suspect Alakaslam when being prodded is supposed to make him scum. The other options I see for hopeless to answer this is to say why he wanted to kill Alakaslam in the first place, or by saying that he wasn't serious with the "let's kill Kaslam" thing. In your opinion, which are more townie and more scummy? Is Toad right in saying that he's overdefending?
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
March 31 2014 12:31 GMT
#700
How
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