• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:31
CEST 23:31
KST 06:31
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments0[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues29LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments3
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
Soulkey on ASL S20 A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL20 General Discussion Pros React To: SoulKey's 5-Peat Challenge
Tourneys
BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN is THIS WEEKEND! [ASL20] Ro16 Group D [ASL20] Ro16 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Borderlands 3 Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Personality of a Spender…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1209 users

Doctor Who Mafia 2 - Page 13

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 17 Next All
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
April 06 2014 21:12 GMT
#2491
We got less than 12 hours to figure a nuke target for amiko.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
April 06 2014 22:18 GMT
#2502
Yeah kita's role kinda implies that he at least started out as genuine doctor (cause the powers stay the same the name changes and the role sounds so imba that I don't believe he could have made his powers up like that). I believe he could have been converted, which explains how scum was able to snipe Djo.

I suggest we delay the decision on kita as much as possible and try to figure out the second scum among hopeless, poofter, thrawn.

Gonna look at differences between kita's D1 and D2. I just hope the conversion is a night ability and not something immediate that can be used during the day.

Need to figure a way to coordinate roleblocks tonight without scum knowing how to react to it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
April 06 2014 22:19 GMT
#2503
If I were a kush/hopeless/TP scumteam I would certainly convert kita, he's a pretty good scummer.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
April 06 2014 22:21 GMT
#2505
Yeah I mean 2 of them during D1, hence / and not +

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
April 06 2014 22:30 GMT
#2507
Actually we've been pretty stupid we should have realized that kush was scum for not vigging Alakaslam..
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
April 06 2014 22:38 GMT
#2509
No, JJD was rose, rose is dead. I'm Craig Owens.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
April 06 2014 22:41 GMT
#2517
The thing is...Scum kush had an unchanged role to claim, only his name was the fakeclaim.

That means that 1 scum is either claiming vanilla, or one of the remaining roles is scum. Just which one? I'm putting my bet on Tehpoofter being a fake vanilla and kita being a converted guy, alternatively Poofter has been converted and hopeless has a scum role.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
April 06 2014 22:45 GMT
#2521
On April 07 2014 07:41 thrawn2112 wrote:
well what use is that role to mafia? i can see it being of use to town, like he might be able to watch for framers


Well he sees anyone who visits a guy together with rose, that's a guaranteed blue snipe every time it happens and when JJD pushes a guy he visited previously they can deduce he's cop.

What imo is a strong indicator of kita being mafia is that scum shot Djo knowing that me and hopeless were both blue (if hope isn't scum), they would never take such a risk of not shooting a claimed blue without already KNOWING Djo was inventor, and inventor is clearly a much better role than a claimed JK or such a watcher.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
April 06 2014 22:46 GMT
#2522
EBWOP:
Well he sees anyone who visits a guy together with rose, that's a guaranteed blue snipe every time it happens and when JJD pushes a guy he visited previously they can deduce he's cop.


Nevermind they can't know it's JJD until he claims.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
April 06 2014 22:48 GMT
#2524
On April 07 2014 07:44 thrawn2112 wrote:
i dont see how hopeless can have a fake role. didn't he announce his results before other people confirmed them? so the actual role mechanics have to be true right? and i'm still not seeing how his role can be useful to mafia


The role isn't fake, the name can be. I mean that type of watcher could be a scum role although it is kinda weak.

I'm kinda moving towards a kita/poofter scumteam as final solution. The argumet with Djo getting shot over other claimed blues is in my opinion very strong.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
April 06 2014 23:03 GMT
#2528
Well I was thinking to myself that kita could lie about his track target but maybe he didn't think of the consequences, or thought that it would look better if he was sincere at the cost of looking scummy for it precisely cause people would think what I thought here.

If kita is scum then he made a mistake in being sincere cause I don't see why scum would shoot Djo over claimed blues without already knowing his role.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
April 06 2014 23:13 GMT
#2531
Ok amiko didn't think of that. Forgot about Djo's accidental blueclaim.

Scum might as well have tried to snipe the inventor knowing I didn't visit JJD. After all the claimed blues were me, JJD, kita, hope, Djo. JJD hope and me couldn't be the inventor. So not much left to choose from.

But in that case...Why Djo and not kita?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
April 06 2014 23:19 GMT
#2534
Kita claimed only in resolution period, so in theory scum couldn't know if he was blue or not when sending in the actions. They knew me JJD and Djo were blue.

Can't use that argument on kita after all. But I can't believe scum wouldn't recruit a scum player of his caliber.

Hopeless we don't know if scumometer had a notification. Can you tell us who you think is scum please?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
April 06 2014 23:23 GMT
#2536
In that case it would be a bad argument. Your role is mostly real we just don't know if it belongs to town or scum, just like kushs.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
April 06 2014 23:28 GMT
#2537
Thrawn you aren't the scum converter are you?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
April 06 2014 23:36 GMT
#2543
Alright guys. If we manage to exclude thrawn from the scumspects tonight we can win this game.

Kush's role had become useless, he became a goon once he fired his shot. Hence why I said that nobody fighting back on that lynch was a gambit. The pawn got killed so the converter could survive tonight.

My theory is like previously mentioned that scum converts on odd and shoots on even nights. They might also have a converter and be able to hold back KP.

Now, if we assume that tehpoofter is scum with kita, then TP must be either a converter or some other type of scum role if the conversion is a factional ability and not a role.

In case it's a role, me and austin both roleblock TP and scum can't convert tonight, or only kita can carry out the kill or conversion if it's not factionally executed. Scum kita can roleblock one of us but not both, hence the conversion gets fucked up. Maybe scum can't use a role and carry out a kill/conversion at the same time.

Summa summarum I think that'd be a good plan for tonight as opposed to kita's "all roleblockers target each other".
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
April 06 2014 23:37 GMT
#2545
On April 07 2014 08:37 thrawn2112 wrote:
vivax, there is part of kush's role that we aren't allowed to know


That's usually the part where the name of your scumbuddies is written.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
April 06 2014 23:40 GMT
#2547
And that mistake makes you town thrawn.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
April 06 2014 23:47 GMT
#2550
One of the vanillas must be a scum role that can't be made public, cause if hopeless has that role then it means scum has absolutely shitty roles compared to a town that seems overpowered.

If of the vanillas it's not amiko or thrawn it has to be TP, plus the way he jumped on the kush wagon was absolutely ludicrous. Kita converted N1. GG scum. I don't see who else could be.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
April 07 2014 00:20 GMT
#2552
^what he said
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 17 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
19:00
Mid Season Playoffs
Gerald vs ArTLIVE!
Solar vs goblin
Nicoract vs Cure
Spirit vs Percival
Cham vs TBD
ByuN vs Jumy
SteadfastSC1018
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 1018
ZombieGrub120
Nathanias 35
Lillekanin 11
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 17574
Rain 1554
Shuttle 485
ggaemo 25
NaDa 8
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm112
monkeys_forever77
Counter-Strike
apEX2218
fl0m1234
Stewie2K125
Super Smash Bros
Liquid`Ken8
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu500
Other Games
summit1g4748
Grubby3981
FrodaN1011
ToD316
ArmadaUGS157
Hui .102
C9.Mang086
Trikslyr46
Kaelaris7
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 59
• davetesta24
• StrangeGG 11
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki7
• Pr0nogo 4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22210
League of Legends
• imaqtpie1174
Other Games
• Scarra979
• WagamamaTV252
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
12h 29m
Maru vs Reynor
Cure vs TriGGeR
Map Test Tournament
13h 29m
The PondCast
15h 29m
RSL Revival
1d 12h
Zoun vs Classic
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Online Event
3 days
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
LiuLi Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-10
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.