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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
April 05 2014 03:38 GMT
#2186
On April 05 2014 12:37 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 12:30 austinmcc wrote:
Okay, then should we be scumometer-ing Kita? Poofter? Should kush use it on himself and promise not to lie about results?


I already gave an answer to this. I think, objectively, town's best play is to use it on either myself or kita. Probably kita, because I have faith in my ability to not get mislynched. But objectively, considering the suspicions of everyone in the game right now, it is probably best for town to know thrawn and kita's alignments.



and why not poofter????
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
April 05 2014 04:06 GMT
#2204
I'm kinda afraid to have kita checked cause thrawn and poofter both seem eager for that to happen and I don't want him to be a godfather in that case cause then it's gg.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
April 05 2014 04:11 GMT
#2207
On April 05 2014 13:06 Amiko wrote:
@austin
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21124179
I want your take on this pls


The take is I jailed austin N1. Austin N2.

Hopeless saw me jailing austin N1 cause JJD checked him, and saw no one visiting kita N2 after saying it was a host mistake that he saw me going to kita.

Now I think it's kinda unfair to say things as if you received them from the host without official confirmation, it's like checking someone, getting a wrong result back and you say to the thread that it's the host's fault without the host chiming in, then it looks fishy and it's the host's fault. On the other hand scum saying something based on host action is also something I don't see as fair play.

Given that hopeless used an argumentation that is based on a host mistake or is phrased like it came from a host I would consider it adequate for the hosts to give confirmation
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
April 05 2014 04:12 GMT
#2209
Btw amiko given that scum knows I'm not lying you get confirmed townie status in my book for using those wrong arguments.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
April 05 2014 04:49 GMT
#2219
Amiko, maybe scum has the ability to withhold KP 1 night and have 1 extra the next one.

Or they convert on odd nights and 2 kp on even, Toad's role had similar mechanics.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
April 05 2014 09:28 GMT
#2224
Come on kush, there must be more than just activity if he's mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
April 05 2014 13:45 GMT
#2232
Ticking in a kush townread for the future. If kita poofter and thrawn and maybe hopeless aren't the scum already we should be able to find the remaining ones by PoE. But I think those should be about it.

On April 05 2014 18:28 Vivax wrote:
Come on kush, there must be more than just activity if he's mafia.


On April 05 2014 18:37 kushm4sta wrote:
he says townie shit d1. he doesn't say townie shit for the rest of the game.


This reply gives me townie vibes cause it's surprisingly unsophisticated. Currently assuming that kita is mafia I think kush bussing would stretch out his posts more to talk about lynching his scumbuddy, for the credz and stuff and also cause he's under some pressure.

My only fear is that kita comes back town cause of a godfather type of role. Too many of my scumspects asked for him to be checked for my taste.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
April 05 2014 20:16 GMT
#2270
Kita why do you only talk about 1 of your scumreads like during D1 when you posted suspicion on multiple people then only became interested into pushing the rayn lynch?

On April 05 2014 08:03 Vivax wrote:
Another thing I mentioned earlier is this post. I said it looked more like it was designed to look good and not hunt scum. Especially the "people of interest" part. Like, he mentions a fuckload of people doing potentially scummy things but doesn't move his attention to them afterwards, he prefers to stick to the rayn lynch.

Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 15:54 kitaman27 wrote:
On March 30 2014 15:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In case it's unclear. It's like normally people give you a puzzle to solve and slowly give you pieces to the puzzle along the way. Then they assume townies complete the puzzle and mafia tries to force the pieces in wrong order. kitaman gives you a puzzle, then he gives you pieces to 10 different puzzles and i don't even know if he wants you to try to solve the original puzzle.


lol you amuse me.

But you have it backwards. I'm simply trying to gather the pieces for myself. The puzzle is mine to solve.

As for your "web of disruption" post, it has a catchy name, but I'll respond once you come to an actual conclusion.

thrawn is off my naughty list for the moment.

People of interest:

Tehpoofter seems to be asking questions that I don't find all that interesting. His initial vote of slam seems a bit forced.

Amiko asking me or hope for the clarification doesn't seem scummy to me. We were probably just around. His lack of opinion and direction does appear scummy however.

Hopeless with his "do i need to go through the motions of totes serious voting to get a response?" conveys a kind of "look at me doing someone" without actually coming to a conclusion other than that I'm useless

slam...generally I try to ignore him and the last time I did so I believe he was mafia. Day one survivor claims are usually someone I would lynch, even if I thought they might be a survivor. My biggest worry is that he might be a trolly town who is willing to get lynched and doesn't care, but he wasn't willing to role claim when asked and shows signs of over frustration that doesn't appear genuine. I'll probably leave my vote on him, though we need to avoid the scenario where nobody is under pressure because the lynch is already decided.

kush is someone who usually gets on my nerves early and hasn't done so yet, which is a concern. I seem to remember him playing mafia and acting completely reasonable, but I'll have to look back to familiarize myself with some of his more recent games. In my opinion, thrawn and hope both overreacted to the random vote, yet kush doesn't draw the same conclusion by only expressing suspicion of thrawn. If slam is a survivor, then kush being the first one to defend him may make sense as mafia if he knows his alignment.



I would like to hear your other alternatives for mafia + reasons.

If you don't get lynched today cause of that check I find hard to believe then I'm going for thrawn or poofter. What do you think of those?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
April 05 2014 20:21 GMT
#2272
I dunno austin, did I attempt townreading kush for the wrong reasons there?

Was scum simply on the rayn wagon D1, would it be that simple?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
April 05 2014 20:30 GMT
#2274

about kita having too much information.. since then i pretty much 180ed on that. It was how he said this game only has 1 or 2 scum, when i was approaching the game thinking there were 3 or 4.
But in actuality, if kita were scum, he probably wouldn't have said that at all because he would be extra careful not to reveal he has too much information.


Kush can you comment on this. You say "x does scummy thing. But if x were scum he wouldn't do scummy thing" . That is no proper reason.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
April 05 2014 20:39 GMT
#2278
If there are 3 scum we're basically at LYLO btw (there can't be 4 or it would be gg unless the converter is 3p). We are 8 and if we mislynch scum kills me at night cause I can't jail myself and it's gg.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
April 05 2014 20:44 GMT
#2279
On the other hand we also have a nuke so chance to take out 2 scum at once. Today the game is decided.

Amiko and austin are supatown for me. Everyone else not so much, that means that among the remaining 5 people I can't eliminate from my scumreads there must be 3 scum (not more cause in case of 4 it would be gg already).

kush
hopeless
kita
thrawn
poofter

Going to spend the next hours going through all of them and trying to give a final verdict.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
April 05 2014 23:05 GMT
#2296
GUYS.GUYS. This is from D1.

On March 30 2014 07:22 gumshoe wrote:
I am the doctor, in two or less paragraphs tell me why you should be my next companion.


Look at kita's filter after this happened, do you think it's plausible for someone to remain silent about gumshoe when you see him claiming your role???
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
April 05 2014 23:07 GMT
#2299
This is his next post about gum:

On April 01 2014 04:43 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 04:41 thrawn2112 wrote:
gumshoe has not demonstrated anything except his willingness to be useless


Do you think that this is the type of behavior you would expect from a mafia gumshoe?

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
April 05 2014 23:08 GMT
#2301
On April 06 2014 08:06 thrawn2112 wrote:
did you believe him?


At the very least if I see somebody claiming my rolename I will ask him if that's a real claim.
But kita remains completely disinterested.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
April 05 2014 23:12 GMT
#2302
I'm still working stuff out, also some of the stuff hopeless said. I got a theory in the back of my head that kita might have been town D1 but that gumshoe thing put some doubts back into my head, also doesn't explain why he stopped caring about the people he mused about to push rayn.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
April 05 2014 23:25 GMT
#2310
you must give an invention to each alive player before giving a second invention to any player, you must give a second invention to each alive player before giving a third invention to any player


Guys...The way I read this from Djo's role PM it looks to me like he should have given a nuke to every player before being able to give the scummeter to Kush. Am I reading this wrong or is it badly formulated?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
April 05 2014 23:26 GMT
#2312
That might mean that amiko got a nuke from Djo and kush fakeclaimed the scummeter.....
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
April 05 2014 23:27 GMT
#2314
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaah
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
April 05 2014 23:27 GMT
#2315
Such a fuckup from scum. I think I'll wet myself
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