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Seriously fuck this, this game feels like no one is speaking the same language.
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On March 20 2014 01:04 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 01:00 Palmar wrote:On March 20 2014 00:56 Holyflare wrote:On March 20 2014 00:48 Palmar wrote:On March 20 2014 00:46 Holyflare wrote:On March 20 2014 00:43 Giggletummy wrote:On March 20 2014 00:36 Holyflare wrote: -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- it's NOTHING to do with that "case" because those posts were troll posts, he's referencing the scooby doo game that YOU were in and I was town but using another game where I did the same thing as scum as his point to use against me without mentioning i did it as town in really small! Nuh uh. Earlier was the time to say "those were troll posts." I'm also not buying that you start the game trolling, choose two people to troll, and they both just so happen to be mafia and you're gonna tunnel tunnel tunnel. um no it really wasn't? You think I make a legitimate case on someone that says "if im scum i'll kill coag" "if i'm town i'll kill coag" without trolling for reactions? You think I don't know that telling someone to sheep me because I bus/or am right is trolling? You can quite clearly see in my posts that I jump to serious as soon as he mentions scooby doo He mentioned scoopy doo before you made the "sheep me cause I bus or right" post. yes but I didn't read into it until he mentioned it as a reason for calling me scum based on the game that didn't include scooby dooOn March 19 2014 07:08 Holyflare wrote:How does that apply here at all? In that regard I am thus bussing DP because that's what I do in my scum games. Therefore the case is in fact not horrible and you should sheep it. If I am town, I am generally correct and thus in fact you should sheep it. Either way, painting me in a negative light based on 1 game (whereas dp has stated anti policy things in numerous games, check the DB and past game filters) but still does it here. Furthermore, his overdefensive nature was seen very heavily in vengeful where he went full blow retard overreaction. This game is a much toned down version of that but still defensive because he doesn't like being critiqued. It is easy to find scum DP and I have done it. Follow me. Oh scummy number 2. God I hate talking about all these games I have no clue about. If I understand you correctly, the point still stands, the "sheep cause right/bus" is after he mentioned that game and thus you had already gone serious mode when you posted that, and thus you can't claim it's a joke. you think someone says sheep me because i'm bussing or right as a legitimate "case"? because that's what giggletummy is saying i'm doing
There's a difference between a case and a post. I think you meant it what you said.
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+200 townie points to rayn for using fruits to explain things.
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On March 20 2014 01:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like i can understand you are referring to the "stupid and terrible Holyflare is mafia" comment. Fuck maybe you are not scum after all. ![[image loading]](http://i58.tinypic.com/3482ezq.png) come to papa
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Giggle, why did you not post even a summary or a hint of your thoughts on holyflare before leaving the thread last night? All you left was one quote from HF you "liked" I'm not even sure if that's meant to say you think it was a legit or a sarcastic "like".
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to be fair if that one person is Kush then it's not like you should expect activity galore. And I think coag said almost all of what he posted was coag and coag only.
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coag even used that as a defense of himself, labeling himself the most active and vocal townie in the thread.
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That Coag read isn't what makes GT mafia, it's the promising content/failing to deliver as I pointed out earlier that does.
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On March 20 2014 01:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 01:53 Palmar wrote: to be fair if that one person is Kush then it's not like you should expect activity galore. And I think coag said almost all of what he posted was coag and coag only. And why should i assume it is in fact Coag? Just because he says so and because he has posted more than in last 100 games he has played as mafia AND as town? In my opinion i had good reasons to assume that was in fact NOT Coag. Seems like a silly thing to lie about.
I never even considered the possibility of a hydra lying about who is posting for other reasons that possibly trolling
Could be, but I don't blame anyone for just believeing Coag when he said that it was all him.
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like it's just retarded to expect people to think "BUT WHAT IF HE'S LYING ABOUT ALL THOSE POSTS BEING COAG POSTS"!!!!
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On March 20 2014 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palamr Giggletummy not posting a case right after promising to do so is not alignment indicative. There is no reason for mafia to clearly promise posting a case and then just not do it. They know they will be called out of it so what's the point? If mafia calls someone scum they know they are expected to post reasoning for it. It's not like he did not know what to say and just left because he could not follow up his earlier post.
I think it's bad logic to think so.
rayn you're a dumbass.
Mafia knows they get called out on contradictions, posting reads with no reasoning, lurking and various other things THEY STILL DO. All of these things are really obvious and can be avoided very easily. Yet we still lynch scum based on them all the time.
My logic is great. Unless GT flips town in which case it was you bad logic that led to the lynch and I had nothing to do with it.
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Maybe rayn is the head of ministry of intelligence and has not approved my investigation methods thus my conclusions must be ignored, no matter their results.
Glory to Liquidia.
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On March 20 2014 02:28 thrawn2112 wrote:hopeless is town so i dont care about that question. ggtmy should probably go on that list but there is something about how this stuff happened that makes me think he might be town: Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 00:10 Giggletummy wrote:(1) I was fishing for a reaction. I got a scummy one. Therefore, DP is scum. He's done some stuff since, but I don't care, original reasons stand. (See this post, which is why I marked it - + Show Spoiler +On March 19 2014 08:44 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 08:37 DarthPunk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 19 2014 08:32 Koshi wrote: The red reply thing? That was good. 3 people were saying rayn case was good. He had to reply. rayn kept up pressure. Coag kept replying. With more caps.
I don't see overdefensive. Really. The all caps thing was not over defensive? But you agreed that I was over defensive. On March 19 2014 07:18 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 07:13 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 07:12 Koshi wrote:On March 19 2014 07:11 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 07:10 Koshi wrote: If anybody is interested I am following Holyflare atm. What does that mean? I think you are scummy scum. Why? You need to provide reasoning or your position is meaningless. I liked what Kush said. On March 19 2014 07:19 Koshi wrote: pointing out overdefensive post. Could be Coag. But it looks like Kush. For this post: On March 19 2014 07:00 DarthPunk wrote: You realise that policy thing was like over a year ago HF? I said I was going to policy vote coag before the game started and I did.
Further I don't think it is a shit policy. I literally would prefer the game to not have a 10 plus member Hydra in it.
I would think you were scum but you, you know, did the same thing last game as town so yeah. I want to know how on earth you though I was scummy/over defensive for that post, but Coag ragingin all caps was NOT over defensive. That seems like a very arbitrary decision for one thing to be over defensive and another far more defensive thing to not be. I didn't like your early posting. I didn't like the non committal stuff. I didn't like the defensive attitude of other posts. I was reading the thread and I was actually looking at your posts strangely and then people put pressure on you and I simply +1 on everything. because I felt that needed to be done and they had a point. Out of everybody I really believe you had a really weak-ass start and I gave you a scummy point. The point is already put down and cannot be erased. -Koshi his judgement- as for oats, he had been consistently calling me scum up till a point where he wrote a lynch list that didn't innclude me, nowhere in his filter does it indicate that his read on me was changing before that lynch list post. his push on me wa a main component of his play so if he were scum i'd expect him to at least document the fact that his thrawn-read changed, if not give his reasons for the flop, given how scum want to keep their story straight. furthur, the fact that he has reads that change that aren't documented in his posts suggest that he is actualyl thinking about his reads even when he's not posting about them
He did at least own up to dropping the read.
Who knows.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21027165
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On March 20 2014 02:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 02:45 Palmar wrote:On March 20 2014 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palamr Giggletummy not posting a case right after promising to do so is not alignment indicative. There is no reason for mafia to clearly promise posting a case and then just not do it. They know they will be called out of it so what's the point? If mafia calls someone scum they know they are expected to post reasoning for it. It's not like he did not know what to say and just left because he could not follow up his earlier post.
I think it's bad logic to think so. rayn you're a dumbass. Mafia knows they get called out on contradictions, posting reads with no reasoning, lurking and various other things THEY STILL DO. All of these things are really obvious and can be avoided very easily. Yet we still lynch scum based on them all the time. My logic is great. Unless GT flips town in which case it was you bad logic that led to the lynch and I had nothing to do with it. What i am trying to say is that the act in itself is not alignment indicative. The reasons behind them might be. You know, basic stuff. I think you're bad.
I propose that everyone who wants to kill giggletummy also announces whether they're agreeing with my reasons or your reasons and then we'll see whose reasons are better.
This means that everyone who votes giggle will also say which case he's sheeping.
a) Palmar's glorious case about failing to deliver on content. b) rayn's case about some random offhand comment about some irrelevant dude.
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On March 20 2014 03:09 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 02:59 Vivax wrote: Off the bat I would say hopeless, thrawn and giggle are scum. Full reasoning in roughly 6-8 hours when I'm awake and energized. As a preliminary I suggest you look at the timing when thrawn started posting seriously (hint: After Coag flipped, he +1d on Coag and went back to doing nothing previous to that).
Anyone who calls me scum for inactivity gets dumb-or-scum-points. I have a life outside of mafia sometimes, will post schedule if host allows it. Mafia always got crazy much shit to do. Way more shit then town. Fact. Being busy irl is a great scumtell
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Ve you have to pick my reasons or rayn's
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I'm a dayvig and I'll shoot you if you don't
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