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Djodref
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On March 21 2014 05:30 Giggletummy wrote: Pre-flip, if possible, are you happy with Vivax's scum on a silver platter, i.e. poofter i thik? No I didn't have time to check that again. Only these emotional posts made me doubt. | ||
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Djodref
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Djodref
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On March 21 2014 05:36 thrawn2112 wrote: did any of the vivax voters start doubting that vivax was mafia when he made his angry posts? i didn't, in fact they made me feel even better about the lynch. I am asking because djo's reaction to them seems implausible I think I would have made a similar post if I had came back from work to discover that I was going to get lynched. Maybe I wouldn't have cursed town to lose though... I don't enjoy this game that much tbh and I have troubles reading (looking at you HF), expressing myself and getting understood properly. I'm glad that we lynched mafia today though and some posts are really making me laugh, especially the fruity ones. | ||
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Djodref
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On March 21 2014 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Djodref after this post you were in thread for 20 more minutes yet you talked about everything else than what you promised to go do. Why is that? Because checking the timestamps revealed to be harder than I thought, you provided a link to the wrong post so I was looking for Vivax posts around page 60, where there is none. After that I hang out in the thread because people made semantics remark on this post. After that I had to work cause I'm playing from work and sometimes I cannot avoid my coworkers. | ||
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Djodref
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On March 21 2014 06:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: It took me 30 seconds to check the posts. I checked Vivax filter but I wanted to read again the posts in the context of the thread. It's not easy to find where are the posts from the filters in the real thread. Also I wasn't sure about what you were trying to prove until you posted this: On March 20 2014 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i59.tinypic.com/23kwugm.png) Very good one by the way | ||
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Djodref
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On March 21 2014 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Djodref and giggletummy. What mislynches mafia tried to push throughout D1 and why? Actually you came up with Vivax quite late in the day and I don't feel like the mafia could have time to react to it at all and proposed a counter-push. Vivax has been thrown down under the bus hardcore I think, the votecount corroborates it. I don't feel like mafia tried to disrupt the thread that much actually... Please assume that GT and I are both town for one moment, like two townies playing so bad that they end up like the serious potential mislynches for day1, without any help from the mafia or really little help. I think in that case mafia don't feel like they need to do anything and don't try to push anybody. Maybe they add some fuel to the GT's wagon. I still have some doubts about Oats but I don't feel like I was pushed by mafia at all, and in this assumption it means that mafia didn't need to. In this case, mafia was safe for most of D1 and didn't need to do anything. Please assume now that I'm town and that GT is scum. In this case, I think that mafia is bussing GT and is trying to get towncredit for his lynch, and they don't try to push my lynch over his at all. Meaning mafia players are players with enough towncredit and balls to choose the risky strategy to bus a liability D1. But Vivax giving up on GT doesn't make sense in this case. So from my point of view, the first assumption is more likely to be true than the second one. I really would like some feedback on this idea, because I feel like a lot of people have either GT or me pinned as scum, or both of us, while it may very be the case where we are both shit town players. | ||
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Djodref
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On March 20 2014 07:51 geript wrote: DarthPunk (1): Holyflare Coagulation (0): Holyflare (1): Giggletummy Tehpoofter (1): DarthPunk Hopeless1der (0): djodref (3): Oatsmaster, Koshi, thrawn2112 Giggletummy (3): raynpelikoneet, Palmar, VisceraEyes, Not Voting: djodref, Vivax, tehpoofter, Alakaslam, Hopeless1der Yeah, looking at this vote count, and knowing that I'm town, I'm very surprised that the wagon on GT has been doing so well for a while if he is indeed mafia. Let's say I'm lynched tomorrow and I flip town, doesn't it make GT more townie ? Can I have some feedback on that ? | ||
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Djodref
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On March 21 2014 06:57 Oatsmaster wrote: Also nothing in that posts says who he thinks is scum. Calm down a minute and try to work with my assumptions plz | ||
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Djodref
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On March 21 2014 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: So who do you think is mafia? In your scenarios you basically present an argument that mafia are in high volume posters but didn't do anything to push their preferred lynch. How does that make sense? No, I think mafia didn't disrupt the thread or didn't feel like they needed to. I wouldn't be surprised if Slam was mafia right now. Maybe Oats, maaaaybe Palmar... | ||
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Djodref
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On March 21 2014 07:02 Oatsmaster wrote: This makes 0 sense. What does GT's alignment have to do with your alignment? Why are you spending your time defending GT instead of finding scum? GT's alignments and mine are connected because we were the main lynch targets for quite a long time during D1. If one of us is scum, then mafia should try to push the other lynch, right ? I'm not scum, so I wonder my lynch was not pushed that much over GT's one. Do you see the logic ? | ||
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Djodref
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On March 21 2014 07:07 Oatsmaster wrote: also contradicting statements. I'm not sure about you being mafia or not atm. You have decent reasons to have voted for me but you could answer my questions anyway. I'm trying to figure out your alignment ok ? What made you vote Vivax over me ? When did you get what rayn pointed out about Vivax ? Because your 180 was rather quick. On March 20 2014 23:04 Oatsmaster wrote: He might have used filters. On March 20 2014 23:04 Oatsmaster wrote: Thats probably what he did. On March 20 2014 23:08 Oatsmaster wrote: Rayn, its far more likely that he used filters to make his case rather than lying. On March 20 2014 23:39 Oatsmaster wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Gx3qET0.png) If Vivax was town and thought that Hopeless/thrawn was scum before he made the case, he would have posts to analyze from before that point. Which he didnt as I understand. Scum! | ||
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Djodref
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Why did you unvote a few minutes after rayn posted his first post about Vivax inchorence ? On March 20 2014 22:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: VIVAX: You said you were on page 40 when you stated your scumreads were Hopeless/thrawn. However in your cases you present later every piece of evidence you point out happens after page 40. Should i lynch you for this? And if not, why? Because i think you are full of shit. On March 20 2014 22:57 DarthPunk wrote: ##unvote | ||
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Djodref
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What do you think about these assumptions ? + Show Spoiler + On March 21 2014 06:54 Djodref wrote: Actually you came up with Vivax quite late in the day and I don't feel like the mafia could have time to react to it at all and proposed a counter-push. Vivax has been thrown down under the bus hardcore I think, the votecount corroborates it. I don't feel like mafia tried to disrupt the thread that much actually... Please assume that GT and I are both town for one moment, like two townies playing so bad that they end up like the serious potential mislynches for day1, without any help from the mafia or really little help. I think in that case mafia don't feel like they need to do anything and don't try to push anybody. Maybe they add some fuel to the GT's wagon. I still have some doubts about Oats but I don't feel like I was pushed by mafia at all, and in this assumption it means that mafia didn't need to. In this case, mafia was safe for most of D1 and didn't need to do anything. Please assume now that I'm town and that GT is scum. In this case, I think that mafia is bussing GT and is trying to get towncredit for his lynch, and they don't try to push my lynch over his at all. Meaning mafia players are players with enough towncredit and balls to choose the risky strategy to bus a liability D1. But Vivax giving up on GT doesn't make sense in this case. So from my point of view, the first assumption is more likely to be true than the second one. I really would like some feedback on this idea, because I feel like a lot of people have either GT or me pinned as scum, or both of us, while it may very be the case where we are both shit town players. | ||
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Djodref
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On March 21 2014 07:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Djodref i am more interested in why you think Slam/Palmar are scum. I think it could fit well in the case where mafia didn't try to influence the lynch that much during D1. Actually your question about who mafia try to push today opened my eyes because I realized that they didn't push me, or very little even if I was the perfect mislynch. I want to read again the thread from midday where GT and me were both the main lynch candidates with the assumption that GT is town and see what I get from there. I won't do it tonight though because I need some sleep first. Slam didn't do anything so he immediately fits well in this hypothesis. And Palmar did push GT the strongest. | ||
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Djodref
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On March 21 2014 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Can this just be so easy that GT is mafia and Vivax fucked up? I don't think so because mafia would have tried to lynch me over GT. Or they would have planned to bus GT but Vivax didn't do it. | ||
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Djodref
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On March 21 2014 07:36 Holyflare wrote: having 0 thread presence because vivax was afk, gt was afk (if the others are djo and hopeless): they had no thread presence, no authority and couldn't push off either without looking weird I agree that mafia had 0 thread presence on day 1. If GT is scum, then they didn't have enough presence to push the lynch on me... (like seriously?) If GT is town, it kind of explain why they didn't even try to do anything, because day 1 was ez mislynch for them then. | ||
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Djodref
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On March 21 2014 07:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like, you say you don't think GT is mafia, so mafia did not need to do anything on D1 at that time. Then the reason you give for Palmar to be mafia is that he pushed the GT lynch strongest!?!?!? I don't know honestly... I want to read the thread again | ||
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Djodref
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On March 21 2014 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: If mafia had no thread presence it should be Hopeless, Slam and idk someone but not Palmar who is mafia in Djodref's mind. Because Palmar actually did have thread presence and is capable of pushing lynches in general. I wrote "maaaaaaybe Palmar" not "Palmar is mafia" | ||
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Djodref
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On March 21 2014 07:51 Holyflare wrote: 3rd times a charm Would you mind if I skip your posts about DP ? | ||
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Djodref
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On March 21 2014 18:57 Oatsmaster wrote: Palmar totes town. Someone should vig djo Let's say I'm vigged tonight. Who do you lynch D2 and why ? | ||
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