EPTHandslaps and Fisticuff: A PYP Mini [M][T]
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On March 03 2014 22:47 Xatalos wrote: http://esportsexpress.com/2014/01/dota-scientists-determine-ideal-amount-of-try/ this list is hilarious | ||
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aren't they usually between 1 and the number of players? | ||
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i already consider myself sufficiently ript | ||
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On March 06 2014 03:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Then I suggest you start doing something useful. how about you do something useful? why me and not you? | ||
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this thread is boring | ||
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how about you answer that question instead | ||
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On March 05 2014 22:38 marvellosity wrote: ok so I like killing LSB still because rayn agreed with me separately even though he found the point first. [...] can you explain this? simply because i don't understand | ||
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how about you just do it? | ||
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can you like please just do it? | ||
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as to the "no u" thing, i was actually saying something with it, i was saying that artanis didn't do anything notable this game when you say "no u" you are asking me to give my opinion of myself which is nonsense i don't care that you are "mocking" me i care about you saying you are just going to sheep marv+rayn on LSB and then you prod marv to change his vote to me? and at the same time you very stubbornly refuse to give your opinion on me? | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:15 Hopeless1der wrote: Iuno.. There's no justification to call me scum other than to get out of this spat. I'd lean scum ATM. lol so you are admittedly doing bullshit while i am patiently trying to get your opinion on me, which is a lot more valuable than marv's opinion because he already has a 4 page filter and then when i tire of your bullshit i am scum for it. but not as much as LSB but still enough that you'd rather we go on me? gl with that dude | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Who else has a 4 page filter? Oh, right. okay not because he has a 4 page filter but because there's actually stuff in it | ||
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you getting anything from our little talk here? | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'm sure you're intimately familiar with both my and marv's filter as well as everyone else's filter, after all you found nothing worth commenting on right? not really no only marv's point on LSB which i don't understand | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Only that it's unlikely that you're both scum yet I still think both of you are scum so I'm lynching the one that's currently shitting up the thread the most. hmm okay who is that? your problem with me is still that i hadn't considered rayn's plan before he posted it, and saying that you pointing out that very fact wasn't really all that useful? | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Rayn, get in here and talk to me about prp and Hopeless. | ||
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On March 06 2014 05:19 marvellosity wrote: the best point, imo, which I already talked about earlier and you've cunningly missed in this precis (  ) is that LSB leapt from disagreeing with rayn's plan -> rayn being mafia. That's pretty suspicious.uncunningly more like it is it the timing of LSB calling rayn scum? because it doesn't seem like a scummy thing to do to find a good townie who has come up with a clever plan and call him scum for coming up with that plan. it just looks like he's completely misunderstood something. On March 06 2014 05:22 marvellosity wrote: btw voting Hopeless for being a douchebag isn't very sensible. Apart from anything else he's more douchey as town. meh, i'm used to that. dunno about his douchemeta. he asks you if you don't think i'm scummier than LSB then i ask him of his opinion on me then he says no, i should give my opinion on myself instead then i ask him, please drop that and just give me your opinion then he says no again i mean wtf, one of his main scum reads who has fucking 5 posts so far repeatedly tries to strike up a conversation and he just blankly refuses multiple times? | ||
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On March 06 2014 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: no prplhz would understand the roleblock thing. what roleblock thing? | ||
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On March 06 2014 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: also the LSB shit in total. so i am not this dumb? WE'LL SEE ABOUT THAT anyway, this makes no sense the reason you know i don't understand this is because i am saying it in the thread but i am saying it in order to get an explanation why would scum fake ignorance only to ask for an explanation? makes no sense for town or for scum (inb4 3nd party) | ||
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On March 06 2014 05:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I hate it when I start defending my scumreads. i hate it when i have to argue that i am dumber than people think | ||
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and i generally try not to attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity (hanlon's razor for razorfans) and i can see how LSB had a problem understanding rayn's plan because it was pretty hard to understand and i'm still not sure i understand it but hopefully scum aren't so much more clever than the thread that they outsmarted us all | ||
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On March 06 2014 06:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Because LSB didn't understand something and his conclusion to it was that Rayn was scum. When you don't understand something, do you instantly call the person scum for it? If I recall correctly LSB tends to be fairly cautious in the start, so for him to open with a scumread on something as light as that seems suspicious. well okay i can kind of get that i also asked about if it was the timing of LSB calling rayn scum here i still think it would be weird for a scum to find a townie who has a reputation for being good at this game and who has already come up with a pretty complicated plan and call him scum i don't think the plan is that good that scum has to go all out against it like that it kind of controls power roles but it doesn't find scum, if we can't find scum we will still lose even with rayn's plan. | ||
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On March 06 2014 06:07 marvellosity wrote: no, prplhz isn't usually particularly helpful. THANK YOU kind of | ||
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On March 06 2014 06:11 marvellosity wrote: I don't mean it offensively prplhz. Just... you don't normally put your all into games, like you did when we played in that Smurf game together for example. gimme your clothes? | ||
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On March 06 2014 06:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote: prp, please do me one favour and don't put two enters between every sentence. hmm okay | ||
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On March 06 2014 06:20 Palmar wrote: When is lynch? lynch in 1 minute who is your biggest scum read gogogo we are almost out of time | ||
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On March 06 2014 06:47 yamato77 wrote: Still not reading close enough. This is almost comical. Just to make this end. link | ||
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On March 06 2014 08:52 gumshoe wrote: Because if hes scum, thats a shot thats not hitting scum in a game where the shots are what ever side probably needs to win. He also wont get blame for it, because he just shoots a scummy looking townie, he already has several aggressive reads on people and that may very well be because hes trying to justify shots down the line. Also I'm fine with the rest of the plan, palmer seems cool and I'll gladly claim d2. But I got chills on rayn, so no kp for him. But raynpelikoneet isn't picking KP, he is picking Universal Backup. You might think there will leftover KP for that role but according to the plan, the top picks pick the KP roles so he's not going to get a KP role. | ||
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what you gonna pick? | ||
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On March 06 2014 11:24 austinmcc wrote: The best I think overall it looks good. There are some bad scenarios but I don't think they're likely. Not entirely sure about the ONE CHANGE question. As I said before I don't think it's terrible if we don't have a plan at all and people just do their own thing. Again there are good and bad scenarios but I think a non-plan is easier to fully consider. Roles will be divided between scum and town with scum having a slight edge because they're unlikely to pick the same numbers as each other and as such less likely to clash with other people and more likely to get good roles. But it's not a huge deal because there are a ton of roles and they're all of some use to town. At the same time I think we'll get more content and more useful discussion from just everybody doing their own thing. But the plan isn't bad at all and it looks like raynpelikoneet has thought it through. I don't like the worst-case scenarios but they seem unlikely. Ultimately, in either case, what matters is that we find scum. | ||
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i don't think it's i host's interest to ruin the game by making major changes to the setup mid game | ||
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Correct me if I am wrong, but haven't all of your scum reads so far been people (LSB, me, austinmcc, gumshoe) who didn't immediately realize your plan was like totally awesome, and they have been scum because they didn't immediately realize your plan was like totally awesome? | ||
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I'd kill you if I had my gun! | ||
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And if we decide that Oatsmaster isn't scum then he didn't gain anything at all. | ||
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But it seems like you want to lynch gumshoe for not reading and understanding the plan and being dumb about it all, I don't think scum would do dumb things for giggles. raynpelikoneet seems to want to lynch gumshoe for bumping him but I don't think that he can explain what motivation a scum gumshoe has for bumping him. | ||
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On March 06 2014 20:39 marvellosity wrote: prplhz are you going to do anything else this game than hard-defend people doing suspicious things? Just curious Dunno, we'll see. From my point of view the case against gumshoe just looks like this: marvellosity's argument: He is trying to piss off a town leader as much as he possibly can, we don't know why though. raynpelikoneet's argument: He is trying to deny me a role, but denying it to me isn't really going to make that much of a difference. | ||
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The answer to this question is so obvious that you wont give it to me? Or you don't know the answer but you assume that there is one? | ||
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On March 06 2014 20:47 marvellosity wrote: There doesn't have to be an answer beyond what is written... On an objective basis, moving a town leader from spot 2 to spot 12 is simply a good thing. But is it worth it at the expense of pissing everybody off? raynpelikoneet himself says it doesn't much matter where Universal Backup is. | ||
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Well okay. ##Vote gumshoe | ||
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A bunch of other people also seem to think he is scum. | ||
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because come d2 or d3 people will start calling me scum again for dumb reasons so i kind of need to shoot scum and not just paranoid townies who happened to vocally oppose prominent townies | ||
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can't modkill us all | ||
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so i'm shooting you | ||
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i think it's silly to waste a lot on killing gumshoe just so we can end it a couple hours earlier | ||
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why is oats not in lsb's list? | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AyaRRfC.png) | ||
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that was like the only thing i had going for me in mafia | ||
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just a name and a role shouldn't take 30 secs to write and now we've been waiting for 20 mins | ||
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just confirms our role, not our alignment | ||
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i don't know how anything makes sense but it makes sense that there has to be scum in me/hope/gum and i'd prefer we kill hope first because vet is less likely to be bastard modded into something insane than vig | ||
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but i don't know why marv would rb artanis because artanis is pretty town | ||
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gum didn't get hit last night and didn't die from my shot today | ||
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On March 08 2014 19:51 Oatsmaster wrote: Wait so if prp and hopeless both shot gumshoe shouldnt he be dead? wow this is a good point i wish someone had brought this up earlier | ||
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On March 08 2014 19:51 Oatsmaster wrote: Marv did not roleblock artanis then who did he roleblock? how else would you explain anything? | ||
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On March 08 2014 19:55 Oatsmaster wrote: He didnt roleblock or roleblocked me. Why would he rpleblock his protection? Yeah looks like either prp or hopeless is scum and lying about their shot then how did marv die? artanis jailed him and jail protects against KP | ||
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BUSDRIVER he bussed marv and gum yesterday and shot rayn with factional kp yes? yes?????? | ||
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On March 08 2014 20:11 Oatsmaster wrote: Those 4 people are the people that are possible mechanically to be scum can you please go over them one by one and explain how it is mechanically possible for them to be scum with what happened last night? | ||
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On March 08 2014 20:14 Oatsmaster wrote: You and hopeless both have kp and claimed to have shot gumshoe but hes not dead. Gumshoe didnt die. Lsb might have many many powers. so you can't go over the people who it is "mechanically possible" for to be scum and explain how it makes sense with last night's actions? okay | ||
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On March 09 2014 04:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Did you read that wall of text? read what? | ||
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if scum is a busdriver it could be anybody really | ||
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but these days rumors say that some of these primal beasts have broken out of their prisons and yet again prey on unsuspecting liquidians | ||
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dunno vet busdriver seems crazy honestly i have no idea, it could be anything and yea maybe lsb is most likely but gum just isn't giving a fuck so i'm thinking it might be him | ||
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Scum Veteran In addition to being a veteran you are also a busdriver. You may bus yourself. bussed himself for marv last night | ||
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if he's not modkilled i want to lynch him | ||
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