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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 10:48 GMT
#921
On March 06 2014 19:47 prplhz wrote:
Announce to the thread you're picking 1,1 and you'll get first pick because people would rather gamble for 2rd pick than bump you.

Except two separate players bumped 2nd pick down to last... which isn't much different
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 06 2014 10:52 GMT
#922
Do you guys think that mafia gumshoe would bump himself just to bump rayn? I mean there's not really anything to gain from that unless he could put one of his own guys (probably Oatsmaster) into a better position.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 10:54 GMT
#923
On March 06 2014 19:46 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 19:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:44 marvellosity wrote:
I wonder how large these role modifications could be. Like austin (I think) speculated on detective -> framer. But there's no point having a framer if mafia already took the DT spot already etc.

Keeping it out of the hands of town when we're not using the kp powers/using them as double lynches seems like good reason enough tbh.

wasn't my point at all

marv actually artanis has a point here. Denying DT as scum is an important part because if town picks DT and JoaT there is not only 1 but possibly 2 checks N1 - that's really fucking bad for mafia so denying DT is important, but if the role stays the same there is really no benefit other than "don't give town checks".

I understand the framer point but imo cop chekcs are really OP in mini games, when you compare them with people's reads (=educated guesses) you should be able to reduce the suspect pool drastically and even one failed (framed) check can be a disaster to the town with this many KP in the game.
table for two on a tv tray
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 06 2014 10:54 GMT
#924
I don't think being low in the picking order is a bad thing here prplhz because the top 5 slots are going to be controlled by town. There'll be less control on lower slots, mafia'll probably gain more from the low profile roles with the current plan.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 10:54 GMT
#925
On March 06 2014 19:52 prplhz wrote:
Do you guys think that mafia gumshoe would bump himself just to bump rayn? I mean there's not really anything to gain from that unless he could put one of his own guys (probably Oatsmaster) into a better position.

Well it kinda depends on timing. LSB had already announced he was picking 2,1 when gumshoe came in saying he was denying rayn. Don't really know when what happened.

Either way there's some seriously annoying play going down. Silly players making silly unilateral decisions is silly.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 06 2014 10:55 GMT
#926
I don't mind policy lynching anyone who picked 2,x
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 06 2014 10:55 GMT
#927
except rayn.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 10:56 GMT
#928
On March 06 2014 19:54 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 19:52 prplhz wrote:
Do you guys think that mafia gumshoe would bump himself just to bump rayn? I mean there's not really anything to gain from that unless he could put one of his own guys (probably Oatsmaster) into a better position.

Well it kinda depends on timing. LSB had already announced he was picking 2,1 when gumshoe came in saying he was denying rayn. Don't really know when what happened.

Either way there's some seriously annoying play going down. Silly players making silly unilateral decisions is silly.

This is not true. Why are you missing a lot of things this game marv?
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 10:57 GMT
#929
Given I'm at the start of the "unallocated" section, anyone have any bright ideas of what I could be choosing?

Bear in mind my propensity to die early + what I might deny mafia

I thought about picking Veteran but basically Universal Backup means people would know I chose it so that's pretty dull
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 06 2014 10:57 GMT
#930
On March 06 2014 19:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 19:46 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:44 marvellosity wrote:
I wonder how large these role modifications could be. Like austin (I think) speculated on detective -> framer. But there's no point having a framer if mafia already took the DT spot already etc.

Keeping it out of the hands of town when we're not using the kp powers/using them as double lynches seems like good reason enough tbh.

wasn't my point at all

marv actually artanis has a point here.

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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 10:58 GMT
#931
On March 06 2014 19:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 19:54 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:52 prplhz wrote:
Do you guys think that mafia gumshoe would bump himself just to bump rayn? I mean there's not really anything to gain from that unless he could put one of his own guys (probably Oatsmaster) into a better position.

Well it kinda depends on timing. LSB had already announced he was picking 2,1 when gumshoe came in saying he was denying rayn. Don't really know when what happened.

Either way there's some seriously annoying play going down. Silly players making silly unilateral decisions is silly.

This is not true. Why are you missing a lot of things this game marv?

I thought it was true.

Your question is meaningless.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 10:59 GMT
#932
On March 06 2014 09:26 LSB wrote:
I'm typing my response up...

I'll just post random thoughts here before I post my argument on rayn's plan which I'm still working on

I already locked 2,1 before I went to sleep yesterday. So that isn't going to work in the first place, see you at the bottom of the list Rayn and Gumshoe. I guess that means unless Rayn chickened out that me and his own personal picks will be irrelevant as part of the plan.

Artanis seems to be confirmed town to me considering he hasn't claimed mafia yet and he is actually trying. Dunno if his mafia behavior changed since last game.


On March 06 2014 08:34 gumshoe wrote:
Less neutral a factor alignment wise is that rayns been playing extremely aggressive this game, picking away at the likes of Palmer and others. Rayn sees himself as an aggressive town player, personally I find he is an adaptive one, bringing out aggression when its called for not just for the sake of it. When Rayns scum though, he plays to his idea of himself and is far more pushy, often feeling as if he needs to jump on things before anyone else. I will be taking 2,1 because I dont trust Rayn atm and I rather neither he not get the one of his choice. As for his plan, I think it's fine so long as rayn doesn't get a gun, I'd prefer if Artanis and palmer could take hold of the heat.

As for LSb's issues with the plan, I dont see a problem with it myself, I'm sure Rayn thought it out pre game so it's fine either way as long as the right people are on top. I doubt scum would so openly disagree with it, they're probably going to just secretly pick whatever number they want. Openly attacking a plan thats gaining momentum seems silly / :

Anyone have any questions for me? I got a bit before I need to go.

meh, it was close :x
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 10:59 GMT
#933
But it's not true and easily confirmable.
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 10:59 GMT
#934
so?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 11:00 GMT
#935
You usually pay attention to these kinda things.
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 11:01 GMT
#936
not really.

and I would pay much more attention as mafia because I wouldn't want to look bad for getting those things wrong, and you know that.

stop being boring.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 11:04 GMT
#937
Jesus christ marv you have even quoted LSB's post about his numbers and questioned gumshoe about his thought process. How can you possibly miss that gumshoe was the first one to announce that he'll deny [2,1]?
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 11:04 GMT
#938
don't care.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 11:05 GMT
#939
whatever, maybe it's not important because i still want to lynch gumshoe.
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 06 2014 11:05 GMT
#940
literally all it shows is that i misremembered (non-alignment indicative) and I was lazy (more townie)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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