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On February 28 2014 05:14 thrawn2112 wrote: Have either of you played mafia before? I've played 400+ games of epic mafia and 100+ games of video mafia but this will be my first forum game. | ||
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On March 04 2014 09:34 IAmRobik wrote: Joey, trolling cause too nervous to make actual posts? Trolling is my strong suit | ||
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On March 04 2014 12:02 IAmRobik wrote: Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign. That's funny cause I'm reading you quite scummy atm tbh. | ||
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On March 04 2014 13:33 austinmcc wrote: Pshaw, it's sleepytime in the americas as well Fuck that. We find the scum while they're sleeping lol | ||
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On March 04 2014 13:43 IAmRobik wrote: When is this actually going to happen from you? You're all talk and no action this game. Do something or die. Probably whenever I feel like calling someout. | ||
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The fuck did I just read | ||
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On March 04 2014 15:03 Alakaslam wrote: It's CHUPAZI for "what did I do such that I am scummy?" I don't have a read on you atm sorry mang come back later | ||
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On March 05 2014 00:01 Alakaslam wrote: Who mentioned any Joey? I'm Joey. DM people might refer to me as so. Here are my thoughts as I just woke up and read through the thread. Palmar: I like you've taken up a leadership role in the game and feel that you're trying to give it the direction. The only problem with what i've seen from you is that you've replied to a much of people and asked them questions about their posts / said what they've posted is not alignment indicative but you haven't given a single read on anyone. Do you have any reads yet on anyone? Typically in video mafia, when a scum leads the town it's exactly in the fashion you're doing so. They'll become a sort of traffic cop where they direct everyone but never really gives anything themselves until they know they can safely do so. I wouldn't say you're a super scum read for me as of right now but I'd like to hear some reads from you as mentioned above. I obviously agree that RLing is not the way to go and also agree that disagreeing with the RL does not neccesarily mean that you're town or maf. I don't know if policy RL is something around here but I don't think we should do it this game if it is. My current reads I still like austin from his posts earlier last night, I explained in an earlier post even though it was short and sweet. I also like rayne after reading what happened during my sleep. He was one of the more active posters that wasn't just filling the screen with trolling which I typically appreciate. Aside from that, he seems like a town that actually trying to piece together the pieces. Alakzam is really weird for me. The majority of his posts were coherent and logical prior to GGtemplar voting on him but right after that (TOP page 11), he kinda goes full crazy and his post quality drops way down. I don't know if that means something but it's just something I noticed. Maybe a typical TL player can clue me in if that's normal or something. Boone's first post was also obviously super scummy. I might actually be leaning her neutral because she does get hyper defensive when she's town but I wouldn't classify her as so. My first post was also super fucking awkward lol. Some questions I have for people: Boone: What are your reads right now? Palmar: What are your reads right now? VE: I took you for a more active player. Why you lurking? or are you always this lurky. I'm not sure if early reads aren't a thing in TL mafia but that's typically what helps me to formulate my circles. | ||
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On March 05 2014 02:27 Oatsmaster wrote: Boone, why is austin scum, and why is GGtemp voting badly, and has the other people you play video mafia with match their meta there so far? Question isn't for me but answering anyways. Everyone is playing very differently except for Robik. He usually just goes super aggro on his reads and is always too certain of them. I wouldn't say how he has acted has been alignment indicative so far as he does it as both town and mafia. I get a better read on him as the first day goes on. He shows himself at the end of day 1 imo. Templar is probably atm the scummiest of all the DM players for me. He rarely gives out his reads with providing extensive reasoning. | ||
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On March 05 2014 02:47 Oatsmaster wrote: So what do you think of Boon calling Robik's play different from video and using that to read him when everyone is playing different anyway unless she thinks all the DM people are scum. Who else is scum? Current scum team: GGtemplar, Boone, Alakzam The only read that I liked from Boone was the read on Templar. Other than that, calling everyone's top town town + calling one of my top scum town for really shit reasons in my opinion made her look worse in my eyes. Alakzam has been scummy for me cause the second GGtemplar voted for him, his post quality went way down. I just felt the interaction was super weird and might have been scum voting on scum or something along those lines. GGtemplar is my top lynch for today because he never substantiated his reads nor did I feel they were even deserved. | ||
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On March 05 2014 04:55 IAmRobik wrote: Really? This is like the easiest thing in the world to do as mafia to get town credit if Dandelion and I are both town. This should be role neutral at best. Why try to get you off a tunnel if you are both town? He's actually trying to push the game in a good direction rather than fighting like a couple of schoolgirls. | ||
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On March 05 2014 06:47 Palmar wrote: What was weird about it? You can't just say shit like that without quoting and explaining. GGtemplar lynch at the time this post is made is a lurker lynch. I'm always slightly suspicious of people actively pushing lurker lynches in early day 1, but I guess a few people are doing it and they aren't all scum. I mentioned it above. The second after GGtemplar just decided to vote for him after giving minimal reasoning, Alakzam switched from serious posts to just plain trolling. | ||
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I don't know what's going on with boone this game as it isn't her town or mafia play. Typically, she can project town extremely well as either alignment but in this game she's done a pretty bad job. I don't really know what was the deal with the QT stuff in regards to the game but outting it probably pushed her to more scummy in my eyes. Also, I had austin as one of my strongest towns earlier in the game but I don't know where he's been for hours. Where u at? Here are my updated reads: Strong Town Rob Leaning Town: Palmar GGTemplar JAT Dandelion Neutral Grack Oats VE Leaning Maf Alakazam Rayn Strong Maf Boone I think that's all except austin. I didn't put him because I was reading him town before but now that he hasn't really said much which makes me more unsure of him. no idea where to put him. if anyone has any questions about any of my reads, just ask and i'll clarify | ||
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I don't play much forum mafia but all you do is talk shit about other players when you're pretty terrible yourself. | ||
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Rayn You've honestly been just a shit poster for me this entire game. All you do is mostly call people terrible, tell them their reads are terrible or just plain disagree with others without giving much of your own thoughts. Although I'm usually the one to call people terrible, it's quite tiring to read through and I think it's overall bad for town. People that do not have town's best interests in mind are usually my top scum. Alakazam He also has posted very little content and hasn't tried to push town foward that much (I guess something I'm guilty of as well). I don't know what it is but everytime, my mind is just screaming scum. I guess it's just one of those gut things more than anything else. It seems most of town is reading town so if someone can give me a good detailed explanation why his nothingness constitues town that would be cool. I assume it's something to do with previous games and how he plays alignments differently. Boonetown I really really hated the QT play, more so than anything else. I think it was overall ok for town since we now know there's some seconday QT mechanic in play but the revealing part seemed very awkward to me. I read it as someone that was in a deephole and wanted to either A) Reveal something to town to try and show transparency(?) and by extent seem more town B) Create some diversion as in that post she begins to offload her blames onto at least 1 in her QT group (not really sure how she came to that conclusion but I think she has rescinded that). The one thing that scares me is that she does get ultra-defensive when she is town and usually takes lynches more likely as mafia (since we all hate to be mislynched). If we were playing video, I probably wouldn't kill her today but everything she has done has been pretty weird and my other scum reads are pretty light at the moment. | ||
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@Rayn If you think you have posted enough original thoughts to help town, you are either mafia or delusional | ||
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Everything I've done up to now has deserved a lynch. I've played pretty fucking terribly and none of my reads are actually that good. I def gonna start playing differently starting now since I've recognized what's been going on. The most I can do for town right now is prove to you somehow that I'm town. I'm basically starting over from now. I've scrapped basically all my reads and I'm probably going to go and re-read most of the game again with a different mindset. | ||
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On March 06 2014 06:39 austinmcc wrote: What did he admit that he was wrong about? Filter me, it's a couple pages back. I'm starting my game over again because everything I've written so far was pretty terrible. | ||
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On March 06 2014 06:44 austinmcc wrote: You said he's "willing to admit his faults" here, and "unwilling to admit he's wrong" when he plays scum. I personally think that's a misrepresentation of thisEspecially things like As to the first, how does he know his reads are bad? Nobody has flipped. He has no way of knowing whether his reads are good, bad, 50/50, anything. He's apologizing for having BAD READS on D1 when we don't know any alignments. In the second bit, he says he was STRAIGHT UP MAKING SHIT UP. You don't "apologize" for making shit up, or "admit that you were wrong" to make shit up. You don't make everything up and go "oops, it was wrong to do that." You KNOW it's wrong to MANUFACTURE FALSE STUFF. I don't think saying "i screwed up by making shit up" is a ... townie apology. Making shit up is a BAD THING. It's a SCUMMY THING. Manufacturing reads is straight up scummy, and saying you did it doesn't make it townie. I am grilling you because I think when you say him apologizing = town, you gloss over the specifics of what he said he's done and will do. "My posts were scummy and my reads were bad (but I can't know this) and I made stuff up, but I'll scrap some of that and PROBABLY go re-read the thred" is not, imo, a townie thing at all. WELL I DIDN'T REALLY WANNA JUST SIT THERE AS TOWN AND SAY THE FUCK IS GOING ON but at this point I think it's best for my game as well as overall town. | ||
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I think GGTemplar is town which really only leaves me with one option. | ||
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Robik Boone are the DM players. GGtemplar: After going over his posts, I have the strong feeling that he's town. He hasn't been trying to lead any one lynch nor has he just straight up tunneled on anyone that is town. I feel like he's trying to figure out the game and that he's constantly reconsidering his reads. I think he would have pushed on me a lot harder than he did when I was an easy lynch a couple of hours ago. Boone: She claimed medic and I kinda beleive her so she's off the table. Robik: He's trying playing his typical town play which is scrutinize everything everyone says and nit pick at anything. If he find something that he believes might be a sign of scum, he'll go really hard on that person. If he's mafia, I believe he'd be less active towards the end of the day since he isn't the target but he's still been active. | ||
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On March 07 2014 08:37 boonetown wrote: That being said, killing you have had 24 hours to "renew" your game, give me something good or I cannot read you the same as I do in video mafia. ![[image loading]](http://www.zeldainformer.com/2011/11/19/finalday.jpg) DO NOT FEAR FOR I AM HERE I HAVE LIVED THROUGH THE NIGHT AND CAN NOW RELIEVE THIS PLIGHT A BLIND MAN MUST LEAD THAT IS WHAT WE NEED ALL SCUM MUST FEAR FOR I AM HERE | ||
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On March 07 2014 08:52 boonetown wrote: what did you do the last 24 hours? make a rhyme? GO GO GO If I say yes, would you be upset? | ||
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I'm in quite a pickle then. You can vote me for now. I don't have a case right now but I'm working on one. | ||
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On March 07 2014 09:00 justanothertownie wrote: Fine. Stop saying so and start doing it. Your alignment is pretty important here. I promise to make it clear that I'm town in the current day. I'm gonna put a fair amount of time into this game from now on since it's clear that you gotta make a wall of text to get shit done. | ||
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On March 07 2014 09:03 Dandel Ion wrote: I'm going to have to subtract 5 points from Gryffindor for that. Good thing I'm in fucking Ravenclaw. Subtract away. | ||
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1) Rob On March 06 2014 07:18 IAmRobik wrote: Cause I'm going to snipe vote the shit out of someone. Cause I'm town and I can do that type of shit and get away with it cause IDGAF about looking scummy (well I kinda do, but like, I'm super obv town so yah) I think Rob probably looks the scummiest to me for right now. He said that at the end of the day he was just going to snipe someone and kill them and that it was "ok because i'm town". First off, I hate it whenever someone prefaces an action with IDGAF because I'm town. That's bad for town to begin with because no one knows that and it can bring suspicion onto you. BUT he never actually tries to snipe me. @Page 67 I am snipable. He can literally change his vote to me and make me the new lynch target. He is confirmed reading the game and posting but still has his vote on DI. So although he stated before that he was just gonna snipe someone and the oppurtunity to switch the lynch onto me HE DOESN'T. He fucking just waits there till his vote becomes irrelevant. He ends up voting after JAT creating a tie, I believe but before that he could have swapped it onto me and made me the target. On March 06 2014 07:34 IAmRobik wrote: JAT, my homie, are you going to be changing your vote or are you sold on Temp being scum? I would much prefer a lynch out of Joey (killing) or VE. On March 07 2014 08:05 IAmRobik wrote: man, austin was so fucking town  Also, killing VE was so bad. I hope all mafia jumped onto VE there. ##vote killing let's not make the same dumb mistake we made yesterday. Instantly after the day begins, he says that killing VE was SO BAD even though he never states anything about it after the post quoted above. I honestly believe that he was never gonna snipe me (since I'd flip town and it'd look bad) and that he just case an irrelevant vote on me so that when VE would die, he would look good for having voted me and not voted VE. If VE was such a bad lynch and he held the hammer at the point on Page 67 where Palmar votes VE, WHY DIDN'T HE FUCKING SNIPE ME LIKE HE SAID HE WOULD. On March 07 2014 10:16 IAmRobik wrote: I voted for Killing, not VE. The reason I asked Austin for a case against VE wasn't that I thought VE was mafia, but because I wasn't sure on Austin's role, and Austin's response was the towniest response in the entire fucking thread, especially after VE flipped town. If I were mafia, I would be like "fuck this, I'm not making a case against a random townie just cause you asked me to, especially after i made it clear that I kinda think he's town." But he took the time to actually fulfill the request for a random townie. SO yeah...I used that to decide Austin was town, not to decipher VE's alignment. ADDITIONALLY, I was hedging my bets against Boone's claim. If Boone claimed medic as mafia, she was voting VE over Killing. Thus I thought that voting for Joey would hedge my bets. If Boone is town, it doesn't mean that Killing is town or mafia, but if Boone is mafia then it's more likely for Killing to be mafia than VE. The push against Killing was super super scummy AND FINALLY: it's really fucking annoying cause I keep writing Joey and having to delete it and re-write Killing This post is so fucked up. It's worse than my other one. He must have been drunk or something. How does voting against me hedge your bets? Coming from a "town" who said earlier, IDGAF I'M GONNA SNIPE SOMEONE. That's not a person that plays it safe and hedges bets. Also I've read the paragraph like 3 or 4 times and I'm still fucking confused. What were you doing? Cancelling out her vote? Like what in the literal fuck is that? Just a quick note on Rob. In video mafia, you can call him a donkey, an idiot or even mafia but that will NEVER influence his read. In the previous pages, he's starting to OMGUS just about everyone or trying to seem super paranoid (not sure if the best word to use here). I've never ever seen start getting into shit with other people just cause they FOS him. Usually he'll just tell them to stfu and to not lynch but he won't all of sudden start reading them scummy. 2) Grackaroni As I said before, I'm in an interesting position since I'm the only one that knows the vote was switched from a town to a town. Grackaroni's interactions with me were super fucking weird and I honestly felt like he was trying to implement some sort of terrible pocketing strategy. On March 06 2014 03:49 Grackaroni wrote: hmmm I like Austin's killing points. On March 06 2014 04:24 Grackaroni wrote: Killing's probably the more likely scum of the two. Bang! Just like that, I'm not mafia. I'm strongly suspicious that Grackaroni thought I was a super weak player that he could easily sweep in and pocket for the coming days. Considering he was one of the first ( along with boone ) to come to my rescue, I think he thought I'd be in his pocket for the rest of the game. I mean, Why save a drowning low hanging fruit? I think that coupled with his lack of content, makes him a prime suspect for me. On March 06 2014 03:08 Grackaroni wrote: Yes I am absolutely serious. Ve hasn't shown much interest as town for the last few games. But this is the first game I've played with VE where I've felt that he is both disinterested and pushing a strong agenda. VE is a good lynch. On March 06 2014 03:51 Grackaroni wrote: I'm feeling a strong urge to lynch VE. On March 06 2014 04:23 Grackaroni wrote: Oh well I'm fine with Templar/Killing. Whenever someone says, "Oh well I'll do X" in text mafia. I insta hammer that shit. It's such flipty floppy garbage where scum is completely fine with either route because they either don't want to look bad or both outcomes are good for town. If you filter grackaroni, there's literally no OC, just a bunch of BWing or fluff. I think this case is weaker than the one against Rob but I think his lack of content and just general BWing makes him an equally viable lynch. I'm still forming ideas on the other 2 but I want to put this post out there for now so it allows people to read me better and to read my cases as well. I'm gonna watch a tv show real quick to refresh my brain ok brb. | ||
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On March 08 2014 02:38 IAmRobik wrote: OH LOOK. ANOTHER BLATANT CONTRADICTION FROM JOEY, unless he considers the 5 words that are said in EM as "text mafia" LOLOLOL If you think that EM is anything like forum mafia, then you're dummer than I thought. | ||
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On March 08 2014 05:53 IAmRobik wrote: huh? That still doesn't explain why you said you're still forming ideas on the other 2. you don't bring up anyone else but me and grack. who are the other two ... or even other one that you are trying to form an opinion on. I was carefully considering GGTemplar but I'm not really sure. There was nothing really in his filter to confirm my suspicions so at the moment it's purely gut. I did like his post on you because I do tend to agree with it ( that you're faking anger over forums cause it's easy to do and would get us to read you as town ) but I don't understand why he voted on slam after FOSing you. It might just be that he foses slam more than you but he never really mentioned it. | ||
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On March 08 2014 06:12 GGTeMpLaR wrote: What is your analysis of Slam this game, Killing? On March 06 2014 01:48 Killing wrote: Alakazam He also has posted very little content and hasn't tried to push town foward that much (I guess something I'm guilty of as well). I don't know what it is but everytime, my mind is just screaming scum. I guess it's just one of those gut things more than anything else. It seems most of town is reading town so if someone can give me a good detailed explanation why his nothingness constitues town that would be cool. I assume it's something to do with previous games and how he plays alignments differently. That was my read on him earlier on in the game. After I re-read most of the game, nothing changed. Not sure why people were reading him town. He's just neutral useless for me. Grack is just slightly worse because I think he was trying to pocket me. | ||
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Thanks man. Glad I entertained you. Anyways, I'm still town I believe that Robik and Grack are still both better lynches than me. I've given my cases, I don't know what I can do to convince you guys that I'm town at this point. | ||
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