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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 21:10 GMT
#1701
Did I miss anything it, or did anyone claim to be in a new foundation chat today? Also, since Boone/Austin/Rayn weren't in a foundations chat together but were in a chat together nevertheless, are they still together even without Austin?
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 21:11 GMT
#1702
I want Slam to do something.

Still don't trust Robik by any means but we literally just spent like 5+ pages on him, it's time to look elsewhere.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 21:12 GMT
#1703
What is your analysis of Slam this game, Killing?
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 21:17 GMT
#1704
Just a thought: Prolly no Vig this game.

Reason: It started 10-3. It's 8-3 now. If we mislynch again it's 6-3 and then 4-3. If there was a vigi in the game, it could go to 5-3 and it would be be mylo. Not sure how things work here, but I'd probably incorporate a vigi in a game with 14 people as opposed to 13 if I was making the game.

/End random thought that prolly doesn't matter
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
March 07 2014 21:19 GMT
#1705
On March 08 2014 06:12 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
What is your analysis of Slam this game, Killing?


On March 06 2014 01:48 Killing wrote:

Alakazam

He also has posted very little content and hasn't tried to push town foward that much (I guess something I'm guilty of as well). I don't know what it is but everytime, my mind is just screaming scum. I guess it's just one of those gut things more than anything else. It seems most of town is reading town so if someone can give me a good detailed explanation why his nothingness constitues town that would be cool. I assume it's something to do with previous games and how he plays alignments differently.


That was my read on him earlier on in the game. After I re-read most of the game, nothing changed. Not sure why people were reading him town. He's just neutral useless for me. Grack is just slightly worse because I think he was trying to pocket me.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 21:25 GMT
#1706
Rob what about your thoughts on Slam?
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 21:27 GMT
#1707
They are congruent with Joey's. I think it's easy to troll as mafia and not do anything useful. I'll go reread his filter and reevaluate though.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 21:42 GMT
#1708
On February 26 2014 09:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
edit. doitdoitdoit

Second post. I was town. Case dunked.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 21:44 GMT
#1709
Also Robik i don't know if you are talking shit but i can't possibly use meta on you when i have never seen you play as mafia before, so i have no idea how you come to a conclusion that i "should be able to clear you because of meta".

That argument is just wrong and you should know it yourself.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 21:46 GMT
#1710
Here's something for you to consider.
I am town this game, i am playing totally different than in GSL game so you should be able to tell i am town because i am. You can't, so you are mafia. See what i did there? That's basically what your arguments are.
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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 21:46 GMT
#1711
I'll start off by saying that I don't understand over 1/2 of his posts on pg 1 of his filter, and if I recall correctly, this continues throughout the day. That's what I meant by he's trolling and it's easy to troll as mafia cause it looks like you're doing something useful when you're not.


I think the bolded is pretty townie.

On March 04 2014 08:37 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 08:27 austinmcc wrote:
Rawr. I'm Chief Heap Big Scum.

Gimme something to tryhard about, and I absolutely will. For now I'm confirmed disliker of giant walls of yellow and the RNG suggestions that pop up in 50% games.

Well

This Alakaslam likes to roll scum.

Does he go "pfft" as scum?


He agrees with me on the Boone thing, which, if boone is mafia, I would give slam town points for this.

On March 04 2014 14:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 12:02 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote:
Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys.

Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign.

Fwiw that boonetown quote is textbook scum

Textbook scum


Apparently, I mistook what he thought she was scummy for. No matter, if she flips scum, mad town poitns for slam

On March 04 2014 14:49 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 12:54 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 04 2014 12:45 austinmcc wrote:
On March 04 2014 12:02 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote:
Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys.

Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign.
Can you be specific with 1-2 of your reads?


Boone's entrance was scummy because of the way she said that she respected RNGesus but wasn't willing to vote VE yet cause she wanted to play more with him and Joey was scummy cause he trolls when he's mafia.

In general, I come in and clear a bunch of people for being super town off of small things, but this game all I see are really fucking scummy players.

That's not why she is scummy

"Sorry for X, I see town is doing something and I made the observation, look I contribute. I'm not going to act on it, caveat caveat IF THAT IS OK WITH TOWN DO NOT LYNCH ME DO NOT LYNCH ME"

That is why she is scummy.


This is pretty towny...he reevaluates boone based off of the QT claim. It's always good to be reevaluating:

On March 05 2014 05:40 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 02:11 boonetown wrote:
Top 2 people I would not kill today

Palmar - created the whole random lynch, then drew actual reads from the conversation it started. The only world in which he would be scum is where him and robik are scum together (calling him town and pushing on an easy lynch target, myself) which seems unlikely.

Alakaslam - His willingness to share his thought process and adapt based on others thoughts is super fucking towny. He is mixing having fun trying to troll with actively trying to find mafia. This conversation in particular is towny because instead of bandwagoning an idea posted by a probably, likely, maybe, town robik, he makes sure to give the reasons why he agrees.

GGtemp - (I am directing this directly to Templar himself) I am having a hard time finding a world in which you are town here. Maybe it's because this is a different medium than we are used to playing mafia together on, but you seem very off, withdrawn, trolly and the way you are voting boggles my mind. I have a much easier time in games when I can read you town and trust you, because in late game you're awesome. The way you are throwing around reads with no explaination, and jumping on the boonetown bandwagon causes me to believe you are not town. You know better than to vote so fast on something so small.

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 04 2014 14:53 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 13:42 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 04 2014 13:33 austinmcc wrote:
On March 04 2014 12:54 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 04 2014 12:45 austinmcc wrote:
On March 04 2014 12:02 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote:
Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys.

Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign.
Can you be specific with 1-2 of your reads?


Boone's entrance was scummy because of the way she said that she respected RNGesus but wasn't willing to vote VE yet cause she wanted to play more with him and Joey was scummy cause he trolls when he's mafia.

In general, I come in and clear a bunch of people for being super town off of small things, but this game all I see are really fucking scummy players.
kk, that's more clear. Do you weigh boone not wanting to vote VE, in and of itself, as pointing towards her alignment? (her, yes?). Even if it's outweighed by the contradiction with liking RNG, does the no vote itself do anything for you?

Also. Are you robik?

It's the subtle contradiction of her post. She should either commit to one or the other. She's making excuses already. Boone is an incredible player when she's town...There are two people I know of that she would hold back on and they're not playing this game, so this random "I want to play with VE so I'm not gonna vote on him even though I believe in whats-his-faces RNG" seems incongruent to me

Ok this is a better point.

Oh yeah and see vote thread if anyone is here.




The town reads on Robik make me pause.
Robik has come into this game basically knowing only myself, ggtemp and killing. All 3 of us are relatively new to forum mafia and he seems to quick to jump on each one of us. His reasoning for doing so isn't necessarily wrong and he's likely town as stated before, but I would not put him in my town circle right now. These seem to be the "easy" lynches that he is pushing.


One of the more pressing issues in my mind is that I am in a mason group with rayn and austin. not much has been said there but i fear that if there is a mafia in there, the game having this information is much more important if mafia also have this information. im outting our mason group because i think there is a better chance that mafia manipulates me in this mason group if i don't bring it to this thread, and i feel there is a higher chance that this mason group will negatively impact town, so I will probably not be using it as much as I had originally thought I would.

That being said, I think Austin is the mafia in the group. He's talked about keeping the group secret for now, while Rayn has openly asked if we should out it. I also feel like so little has actually been said in the group that Austin band-wagoning on me in this thread just further supports my read on him.

I would also like to point out, that my opening post (and obviously we all see this differently) was my way of letting you all know that I wasn't a sheep, I wasn't about to just vote someone based on RNG, that I'd like to actually play this game with the people that are in it (including V.E). I feel like I'm going to be the easy lynch at this point because a) no one knows my play style and b) I'm unfamailiar with how to post, length, content and what not to say. If taking a stance on RNG is scummy, then I don't know how to prove I'm town to you.

In my opinion a random lynch so early on in a game can't be beneficial for town. I know that you guys like to lynch people, and I'm all for it... but let's lynch the right people.

Mason claim fits with what I voiced earlier.

##will Unvote in that thread

See this VE! The DBZ hath skill so I respect the skill of the VE. And GGTeMpLaR's cologne smells of bus because he wans me lynch town bro


He goes on to re-vote Boone based off of the setup mentioning only 1 QT.

Seems like he genuinely believes boone's claim ... more town points:

On March 06 2014 05:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 04:29 IAmRobik wrote:
Boone's claim could be fabricated. She's smart enough to do it. Just saying. Not voting her today though.

No, actually, it couldn't have been.

And sorry for essentially outing you Boone. I tend to rea blues as scum anyway.




Soooo, after rereading, I'm getting a town-read from Slam. He trolls a lot, but most of what he says seems like it's coming from a town mindset. I think he would be a good player, with much skill if he didn't troll in 90% of his posts and actually made them legible
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 21:49 GMT
#1712
On March 08 2014 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here's something for you to consider.
I am town this game, i am playing totally different than in GSL game so you should be able to tell i am town because i am. You can't, so you are mafia. See what i did there? That's basically what your arguments are.

Except you're not playing differently. You're attacking me for shitty reasons and you're being stubborn and pushing on "easy" lynches...which is what you thought I was in that game because I was new, and kinda what you think of me this game, but for the different reason that you saw that some people wanted me lynched. I HAVE seen your mafia game. I know that you like to keep your options open for possible mislynches and you like to leave the least towniest people alive so that you can try to get them mislynched. You have 0 concern for PR hunting and worry about taking out people that think you're scummy or that have strong reads on others or you think are good players.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 21:54 GMT
#1713
Yeah and that's my point. There is only one person on this forum who can reliably tell if i am mafia or not and that's not you because i post the exact same way as mafia and as town. so if you want to call me mafia you need to give something else than "he used a smiley trololol" because that's not a tell.

So, if you think i am mafia look at the content i have posted and tell me where is the mafia agenda in my posts and i bury you to the ground because you are wrong.
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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 21:56 GMT
#1714
I'm town, so wanting to lynch me is a mafia agenda. I'll be happy to do a reread of you like I did of Slam, but I'm laeving work soon.


Mod, Are weekends considered 1 day or is it still 48hrs total?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 21:58 GMT
#1715
On March 08 2014 06:49 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here's something for you to consider.
I am town this game, i am playing totally different than in GSL game so you should be able to tell i am town because i am. You can't, so you are mafia. See what i did there? That's basically what your arguments are.

Except you're not playing differently. You're attacking me for shitty reasons and you're being stubborn and pushing on "easy" lynches...which is what you thought I was in that game because I was new, and kinda what you think of me this game, but for the different reason that you saw that some people wanted me lynched. I HAVE seen your mafia game. I know that you like to keep your options open for possible mislynches and you like to leave the least towniest people alive so that you can try to get them mislynched. You have 0 concern for PR hunting and worry about taking out people that think you're scummy or that have strong reads on others or you think are good players.

So based on this post i am town. Because i do not keep my options open, i call people i think are town town, i DEFINITELY in this game, am not trying to "leave the least towniest people alive". Because you are scummy as fuck, templar is scummy as fuck, and you are the people i think are mafia. You are suggesting i killed austin, a fucking dude who nearly everyone thought is mafia, including me.

Your argument stinks, and it stinks so fucking hard.
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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 22:02 GMT
#1716
Maybe I'm clouded by how fucking obviously town austin was in my eyes.
boonetown
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada169 Posts
March 08 2014 00:22 GMT
#1717
On March 08 2014 05:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 04:10 boonetown wrote:
i'm still not sure Palmar is town, but he's being much more helpful and useful today.

I really have to disagree here. Palmar gave some general advice and lectured robik. What has he done besides that? He has been useless today.



but am i wrong in saying he's done more today as town than yesterday?
boonetown
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada169 Posts
March 08 2014 00:30 GMT
#1718
After looking over the last 85 pages, and hopefully i'm not missing too much shit and getting confused but I feel like my reads on d1 were really wrong.

Originally i had:

TOWN:
Robik
Rayn
Oats
Alaka
JAT

Leaning town after my reread:
Temp
Dandel
Killing

SCUM:
VE
Palmar

Leaning scum after my reread:
Austin

No Fucking Idea:
Grack

Now, that's different. I think in order I would lynch Killing, Dandel, Grack, JAT, OATS and then if the game wasnt over I'd look at Palmar again.

Dandel vs Rob is really weird for me, because at first i thought they were just idiots going at each other, now I think Dandel is purposely trying to upset rob so that people will vote him. I also dont like the point that was made earlier about his switch vote from Killing to VE.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 08 2014 00:36 GMT
#1719
You should do the same thing Robik should have done years ago:

Realize everyone that has ever played a game with me knows I'm town.
Plenty people that haven't still realize I'm town.
Figure out why that is the case.
Then stop wasting your time on me.


I'm also not trying to "upset him", I tried my best to rationally engage the subject, and later himself, but he can't have a conversation without insulting people and I honestly have no idea why he hasn't been modkilled hor his behavior.

I find it preposterous that you, like Robik, look to blame ME for his behavior. Like I have anything at all to do with what he decides to do.
You should rather question why he's so dead set on getting angry at anything and nothing all the time.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 08 2014 00:46 GMT
#1720
what are the possible set-ups for this game
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