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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 20:22 GMT
#1681
On March 08 2014 05:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 05:15 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 08 2014 05:12 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 08 2014 04:49 IAmRobik wrote:
Rayn

I have a theory that people who use emoticons at the beginning of the game are more likely to be scum. I was wishy washy about it in GSL, but I'm more certain of it now. The reason being is that they need to feign some sort of smile, laughter, joviality.

He is willing to clear Dandelion for the interaction with me and says that Dandelion has been more towny and provided more content when this is definitely a fallacy...at least the latter part should be a fallacy in anyone's eyes that's actually paying attention.

Also, it seems to me that he's willing to clear Dandelion off the meta that people have been clearning Dandelion for, however my game should read the same as how it read in GSL, where he knows I was town, yet he's unwilling to give me any credit for it and I think that's pretty scummy (the fact that he won't even consider giving me town points for it)


Palmar

He voted on a confirmed town late after swapping off of someone that I believe to be mafia. He blatantly admitted that his rationale for voting VE was incorrect today. It seems like he's trying too hard to be like "oh hey, i was wrong and this is why i was wrong." It just seemed like a lackluster justification and did not read genuine to me. Austin (confirmed town) had suspicions of Palmar and Austin is dead. Reading pages 1 and 2 of the austin filter, I can see what Austin was saying with regards to Palmar. Palmar called out Austin for questioning my reads and then backing off of me, saying that I didn't really answer Austin's questions. I think that I _DID_ answer Austin's questions, so it doesn't make sense to me why Palmar kept pressuring Austin the way he did. Potentially trying to push a mislynch? Maybe.

Which reminds me of another thing about Rayn.

Rayn asked me to address some question. I felt that I had answered it and he kept repeating that I hadn't. I think that he's halfheartedly reading the thread and is just missing things and this is scummy behavior.

This guy is either the most stubborn and confrontational scumplayer I have seen to date or town. Dude, you know that you will get in an even worse fight with rayn for this read on him?


I'm sorry. I didn't realize I'm not allowed to call out people who I think are actually scummy and have to only focus on people who can't put together 2 congruent words. Like.. I think he's scummy. THat's why I think he's scummy. I'm not gonna sit here and make up reasons why I think someone is scummy. I don't need to fabricate anything cause I'm town, so I tell it how I see it.

Didn't want to criticize you this time. Read carefully.

I know it wasn't criticism. I'm just saying that I don't have anything to hide cause I'm town. So you better believe that if I see something I don't like, I'll talk about it. Similarly, if I see something that I do like, I"ll comment on it as well.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 07 2014 20:25 GMT
#1682
On March 08 2014 05:20 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
So the only actual content in all of those in response to Dandel's case is that you think we should lynch Joey for information. The rest is fluff/bm/yelling.

shh don't say that it makes him go craycray
A backwards poet writes inverse.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 20:25 GMT
#1683
On March 08 2014 04:49 IAmRobik wrote:
I have a theory that people who use emoticons at the beginning of the game are more likely to be scum.


On March 04 2014 08:04 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 07:45 Palmar wrote:
Hi guys I'm basically confirmed town by now so you should totally just follow my lead.

I livve Tto sservee!!?!

this Palmar!



How come you never brought this up?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 07 2014 20:26 GMT
#1684
On March 08 2014 04:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 04:15 boonetown wrote:
On March 08 2014 04:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
Why would you even protect a vig target



cause i'm an idiot? i protected someone i read as town. that's all.

Why would you noob claim again????

Why would YOU claim oats again?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 07 2014 20:26 GMT
#1685
On March 08 2014 05:25 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 04:49 IAmRobik wrote:
I have a theory that people who use emoticons at the beginning of the game are more likely to be scum.


Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 08:04 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 04 2014 07:45 Palmar wrote:
Hi guys I'm basically confirmed town by now so you should totally just follow my lead.

I livve Tto sservee!!?!

this Palmar!



How come you never brought this up?

OH SHIT
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 07 2014 20:27 GMT
#1686
djodref tells are just lol, you should ignore them.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 20:29 GMT
#1687
On March 04 2014 08:09 IAmRobik wrote:
Soooo, we're lynching Alakaslam and Grack. Rayn knows why.

Palmar top town

i did
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 20:29 GMT
#1688
OH SHIT
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 07 2014 20:29 GMT
#1689
On March 08 2014 05:29 IAmRobik wrote:
OH SHIT

lol
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 07 2014 20:31 GMT
#1690
Where the hell are grack and slam?
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 20:35 GMT
#1691
Like seriously though, I was rethinking it over last night as to why I liked Slam so much as town and I couldn't remember. Ever since his early pressure on boone, slam hasn't done anything but troll.

Ton of people townread him because he called out "textbook scum" (which was like the easiest read in the world at the time to make). It sort of just snowballed to a general feeling that "slam is town".

Slam do something.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 07 2014 20:37 GMT
#1692
On March 08 2014 04:10 boonetown wrote:
i'm still not sure Palmar is town, but he's being much more helpful and useful today.

I really have to disagree here. Palmar gave some general advice and lectured robik. What has he done besides that? He has been useless today.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 07 2014 20:40 GMT
#1693
I also expect more from joey if he wants to live through this day. I don't need walls of text but jumping on the wagon getting steam (robik) is not enough.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 20:42 GMT
#1694
##Unvote
##Vote: Alakaslam
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 20:43 GMT
#1695
it's been 3 hours since joey went away to watch a 1hr episode.
I too want him to answer Rayn's question. Joey says "the other two" but hasn't mentioned anyone but me and grack. Seems like he took the time to go back and edit his post
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
March 07 2014 20:45 GMT
#1696
I didn't edit shit. It was a mistake, I meant 1. I'm still considering the read. I'm reading more from the person before haphazradly putting it out. I've decided not to enter a shit flinging fest with you because it's a waste of my time.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 20:51 GMT
#1697
Everyone either town-read slam or avoided him.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 20:52 GMT
#1698
And he's done nothing but troll.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 20:53 GMT
#1699
On March 08 2014 02:24 Killing wrote:
Alright after going over the game again. I'm probably the person with the most information in the entire game since I know that I'm town. Due to this, I'm the only one that knows that the flip at the end of the day was from a town to a town ( me to VE ). I think the only advantages that scum has to switching a vote at the last second from a town to another town is to possibly get a role but I don't think VE was softing anything anyways.



1) Rob

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 07:18 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 06 2014 07:07 austinmcc wrote:
Robik, if you believe Killing is ... curious/mafia, and my case or posts on him is/are good, then why vote DI, who is not getting lynched today?

Cause I'm going to snipe vote the shit out of someone. Cause I'm town and I can do that type of shit and get away with it cause IDGAF about looking scummy (well I kinda do, but like, I'm super obv town so yah)


I think Rob probably looks the scummiest to me for right now. He said that at the end of the day he was just going to snipe someone and kill them and that it was "ok because i'm town". First off, I hate it whenever someone prefaces an action with IDGAF because I'm town. That's bad for town to begin with because no one knows that and it can bring suspicion onto you. BUT he never actually tries to snipe me.

@Page 67

I am snipable. He can literally change his vote to me and make me the new lynch target. He is confirmed reading the game and posting but still has his vote on DI. So although he stated before that he was just gonna snipe someone and the oppurtunity to switch the lynch onto me HE DOESN'T. He fucking just waits there till his vote becomes irrelevant. He ends up voting after JAT creating a tie, I believe but before that he could have swapped it onto me and made me the target.

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 07:34 IAmRobik wrote:
JAT, my homie, are you going to be changing your vote or are you sold on Temp being scum? I would much prefer a lynch out of Joey (killing) or VE.


Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 08:05 IAmRobik wrote:
man, austin was so fucking town

Also, killing VE was so bad. I hope all mafia jumped onto VE there.

##vote killing

let's not make the same dumb mistake we made yesterday.


Instantly after the day begins, he says that killing VE was SO BAD even though he never states anything about it after the post quoted above. I honestly believe that he was never gonna snipe me (since I'd flip town and it'd look bad) and that he just case an irrelevant vote on me so that when VE would die, he would look good for having voted me and not voted VE. If VE was such a bad lynch and he held the hammer at the point on Page 67 where Palmar votes VE, WHY DIDN'T HE FUCKING SNIPE ME LIKE HE SAID HE WOULD.



Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 10:16 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 07 2014 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
IAmRobik can you explain this:
Also, killing VE was so bad. I hope all mafia jumped onto VE there.

That's not what it looked like at the end of D1 based on your posts.

I voted for Killing, not VE. The reason I asked Austin for a case against VE wasn't that I thought VE was mafia, but because I wasn't sure on Austin's role, and Austin's response was the towniest response in the entire fucking thread, especially after VE flipped town. If I were mafia, I would be like "fuck this, I'm not making a case against a random townie just cause you asked me to, especially after i made it clear that I kinda think he's town." But he took the time to actually fulfill the request for a random townie. SO yeah...I used that to decide Austin was town, not to decipher VE's alignment.

ADDITIONALLY, I was hedging my bets against Boone's claim. If Boone claimed medic as mafia, she was voting VE over Killing. Thus I thought that voting for Joey would hedge my bets. If Boone is town, it doesn't mean that Killing is town or mafia, but if Boone is mafia then it's more likely for Killing to be mafia than VE. The push against Killing was super super scummy


AND FINALLY: it's really fucking annoying cause I keep writing Joey and having to delete it and re-write Killing


This post is so fucked up. It's worse than my other one. He must have been drunk or something. How does voting against me hedge your bets? Coming from a "town" who said earlier, IDGAF I'M GONNA SNIPE SOMEONE. That's not a person that plays it safe and hedges bets. Also I've read the paragraph like 3 or 4 times and I'm still fucking confused. What were you doing? Cancelling out her vote? Like what in the literal fuck is that?

Just a quick note on Rob. In video mafia, you can call him a donkey, an idiot or even mafia but that will NEVER influence his read. In the previous pages, he's starting to OMGUS just about everyone or trying to seem super paranoid (not sure if the best word to use here). I've never ever seen start getting into shit with other people just cause they FOS him. Usually he'll just tell them to stfu and to not lynch but he won't all of sudden start reading them scummy.

2) Grackaroni

As I said before, I'm in an interesting position since I'm the only one that knows the vote was switched from a town to a town. Grackaroni's interactions with me were super fucking weird and I honestly felt like he was trying to implement some sort of terrible pocketing strategy.

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 03:49 Grackaroni wrote:
hmmm I like Austin's killing points.


Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 04:24 Grackaroni wrote:
Killing's probably the more likely scum of the two.


Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 05:29 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:26 Killing wrote:
Ok, so I don't really know where to start with this. I read a bit that people hated what I had to say earlier so I went to re-read it and couldn't stop laughing at how terrible it was. I think I've been going about playing thsi shit completely wrong. I was just straight up making shit up and pretending to know what I was talking about. I'm so used to knowing exactly what's going on and to having strong reads that I think I was compensating but trying to give too much except that it was all obvious garbage. It's really uncomfortable being in this position where I really don't know what's going on even though I wish I did.

Everything I've done up to now has deserved a lynch. I've played pretty fucking terribly and none of my reads are actually that good. I def gonna start playing differently starting now since I've recognized what's been going on. The most I can do for town right now is prove to you somehow that I'm town. I'm basically starting over from now. I've scrapped basically all my reads and I'm probably going to go and re-read most of the game again with a different mindset.


lol ok this guy is not mafia.


Bang! Just like that, I'm not mafia. I'm strongly suspicious that Grackaroni thought I was a super weak player that he could easily sweep in and pocket for the coming days. Considering he was one of the first ( along with boone ) to come to my rescue, I think he thought I'd be in his pocket for the rest of the game. I mean, Why save a drowning low hanging fruit? I think that coupled with his lack of content, makes him a prime suspect for me.

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 03:08 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 06 2014 02:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
staph! both of you Grack and Oats. Grack why VE, are you being srs?

Yes I am absolutely serious. Ve hasn't shown much interest as town for the last few games. But this is the first game I've played with VE where I've felt that he is both disinterested and pushing a strong agenda.

VE is a good lynch.


Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 03:51 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm feeling a strong urge to lynch VE.


Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 04:23 Grackaroni wrote:
Oh well I'm fine with Templar/Killing.


Whenever someone says, "Oh well I'll do X" in text mafia. I insta hammer that shit. It's such flipty floppy garbage where scum is completely fine with either route because they either don't want to look bad or both outcomes are good for town. If you filter grackaroni, there's literally no OC, just a bunch of BWing or fluff. I think this case is weaker than the one against Rob but I think his lack of content and just general BWing makes him an equally viable lynch.

I'm still forming ideas on the other 2 but I want to put this post out there for now so it allows people to read me better and to read my cases as well. I'm gonna watch a tv show real quick to refresh my brain ok brb.





huh? That still doesn't explain why you said you're still forming ideas on the other 2. you don't bring up anyone else but me and grack. who are the other two ... or even other one that you are trying to form an opinion on.
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
March 07 2014 21:07 GMT
#1700
On March 08 2014 05:53 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 02:24 Killing wrote:
Alright after going over the game again. I'm probably the person with the most information in the entire game since I know that I'm town. Due to this, I'm the only one that knows that the flip at the end of the day was from a town to a town ( me to VE ). I think the only advantages that scum has to switching a vote at the last second from a town to another town is to possibly get a role but I don't think VE was softing anything anyways.



1) Rob

On March 06 2014 07:18 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 06 2014 07:07 austinmcc wrote:
Robik, if you believe Killing is ... curious/mafia, and my case or posts on him is/are good, then why vote DI, who is not getting lynched today?

Cause I'm going to snipe vote the shit out of someone. Cause I'm town and I can do that type of shit and get away with it cause IDGAF about looking scummy (well I kinda do, but like, I'm super obv town so yah)


I think Rob probably looks the scummiest to me for right now. He said that at the end of the day he was just going to snipe someone and kill them and that it was "ok because i'm town". First off, I hate it whenever someone prefaces an action with IDGAF because I'm town. That's bad for town to begin with because no one knows that and it can bring suspicion onto you. BUT he never actually tries to snipe me.

@Page 67

I am snipable. He can literally change his vote to me and make me the new lynch target. He is confirmed reading the game and posting but still has his vote on DI. So although he stated before that he was just gonna snipe someone and the oppurtunity to switch the lynch onto me HE DOESN'T. He fucking just waits there till his vote becomes irrelevant. He ends up voting after JAT creating a tie, I believe but before that he could have swapped it onto me and made me the target.

On March 06 2014 07:34 IAmRobik wrote:
JAT, my homie, are you going to be changing your vote or are you sold on Temp being scum? I would much prefer a lynch out of Joey (killing) or VE.


On March 07 2014 08:05 IAmRobik wrote:
man, austin was so fucking town

Also, killing VE was so bad. I hope all mafia jumped onto VE there.

##vote killing

let's not make the same dumb mistake we made yesterday.


Instantly after the day begins, he says that killing VE was SO BAD even though he never states anything about it after the post quoted above. I honestly believe that he was never gonna snipe me (since I'd flip town and it'd look bad) and that he just case an irrelevant vote on me so that when VE would die, he would look good for having voted me and not voted VE. If VE was such a bad lynch and he held the hammer at the point on Page 67 where Palmar votes VE, WHY DIDN'T HE FUCKING SNIPE ME LIKE HE SAID HE WOULD.



On March 07 2014 10:16 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 07 2014 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
IAmRobik can you explain this:
Also, killing VE was so bad. I hope all mafia jumped onto VE there.

That's not what it looked like at the end of D1 based on your posts.

I voted for Killing, not VE. The reason I asked Austin for a case against VE wasn't that I thought VE was mafia, but because I wasn't sure on Austin's role, and Austin's response was the towniest response in the entire fucking thread, especially after VE flipped town. If I were mafia, I would be like "fuck this, I'm not making a case against a random townie just cause you asked me to, especially after i made it clear that I kinda think he's town." But he took the time to actually fulfill the request for a random townie. SO yeah...I used that to decide Austin was town, not to decipher VE's alignment.

ADDITIONALLY, I was hedging my bets against Boone's claim. If Boone claimed medic as mafia, she was voting VE over Killing. Thus I thought that voting for Joey would hedge my bets. If Boone is town, it doesn't mean that Killing is town or mafia, but if Boone is mafia then it's more likely for Killing to be mafia than VE. The push against Killing was super super scummy


AND FINALLY: it's really fucking annoying cause I keep writing Joey and having to delete it and re-write Killing


This post is so fucked up. It's worse than my other one. He must have been drunk or something. How does voting against me hedge your bets? Coming from a "town" who said earlier, IDGAF I'M GONNA SNIPE SOMEONE. That's not a person that plays it safe and hedges bets. Also I've read the paragraph like 3 or 4 times and I'm still fucking confused. What were you doing? Cancelling out her vote? Like what in the literal fuck is that?

Just a quick note on Rob. In video mafia, you can call him a donkey, an idiot or even mafia but that will NEVER influence his read. In the previous pages, he's starting to OMGUS just about everyone or trying to seem super paranoid (not sure if the best word to use here). I've never ever seen start getting into shit with other people just cause they FOS him. Usually he'll just tell them to stfu and to not lynch but he won't all of sudden start reading them scummy.

2) Grackaroni

As I said before, I'm in an interesting position since I'm the only one that knows the vote was switched from a town to a town. Grackaroni's interactions with me were super fucking weird and I honestly felt like he was trying to implement some sort of terrible pocketing strategy.

On March 06 2014 03:49 Grackaroni wrote:
hmmm I like Austin's killing points.


On March 06 2014 04:24 Grackaroni wrote:
Killing's probably the more likely scum of the two.


On March 06 2014 05:29 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:26 Killing wrote:
Ok, so I don't really know where to start with this. I read a bit that people hated what I had to say earlier so I went to re-read it and couldn't stop laughing at how terrible it was. I think I've been going about playing thsi shit completely wrong. I was just straight up making shit up and pretending to know what I was talking about. I'm so used to knowing exactly what's going on and to having strong reads that I think I was compensating but trying to give too much except that it was all obvious garbage. It's really uncomfortable being in this position where I really don't know what's going on even though I wish I did.

Everything I've done up to now has deserved a lynch. I've played pretty fucking terribly and none of my reads are actually that good. I def gonna start playing differently starting now since I've recognized what's been going on. The most I can do for town right now is prove to you somehow that I'm town. I'm basically starting over from now. I've scrapped basically all my reads and I'm probably going to go and re-read most of the game again with a different mindset.


lol ok this guy is not mafia.


Bang! Just like that, I'm not mafia. I'm strongly suspicious that Grackaroni thought I was a super weak player that he could easily sweep in and pocket for the coming days. Considering he was one of the first ( along with boone ) to come to my rescue, I think he thought I'd be in his pocket for the rest of the game. I mean, Why save a drowning low hanging fruit? I think that coupled with his lack of content, makes him a prime suspect for me.

On March 06 2014 03:08 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 06 2014 02:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
staph! both of you Grack and Oats. Grack why VE, are you being srs?

Yes I am absolutely serious. Ve hasn't shown much interest as town for the last few games. But this is the first game I've played with VE where I've felt that he is both disinterested and pushing a strong agenda.

VE is a good lynch.


On March 06 2014 03:51 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm feeling a strong urge to lynch VE.


On March 06 2014 04:23 Grackaroni wrote:
Oh well I'm fine with Templar/Killing.


Whenever someone says, "Oh well I'll do X" in text mafia. I insta hammer that shit. It's such flipty floppy garbage where scum is completely fine with either route because they either don't want to look bad or both outcomes are good for town. If you filter grackaroni, there's literally no OC, just a bunch of BWing or fluff. I think this case is weaker than the one against Rob but I think his lack of content and just general BWing makes him an equally viable lynch.

I'm still forming ideas on the other 2 but I want to put this post out there for now so it allows people to read me better and to read my cases as well. I'm gonna watch a tv show real quick to refresh my brain ok brb.





huh? That still doesn't explain why you said you're still forming ideas on the other 2. you don't bring up anyone else but me and grack. who are the other two ... or even other one that you are trying to form an opinion on.


I was carefully considering GGTemplar but I'm not really sure. There was nothing really in his filter to confirm my suspicions so at the moment it's purely gut. I did like his post on you because I do tend to agree with it ( that you're faking anger over forums cause it's easy to do and would get us to read you as town ) but I don't understand why he voted on slam after FOSing you. It might just be that he foses slam more than you but he never really mentioned it.
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