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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 02:50 GMT
#1501
On March 07 2014 11:37 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Rob, did JAT's thoughts in the QT change your read at all of Dandelion?

Please link me. I must have missed it
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 02:53 GMT
#1502
On March 07 2014 11:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why the fuck you keep calling me out for "going after easy lynches" because you are super good player and obviously you can read me so well in your opinion, so you can't possibly be an easy lynch.

Can you make some real arguments if you think i am mafia?

Cause there are a few people calling me out (one who I am trying my hardest to avoid talking about cause I'll get modkilled if I go off on him)...there are many people calling Temp out, who has provided way more content than a lot of people.

I think that Joey is _BY FAR_ the best lynch as it will reveal a lot if he flips maf. If he flips town, I think it would clear Palmar because he would have no reason to keep flip flopping at the end to draw attention to himself.

Those are my thoughts.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 02:54 GMT
#1503
On March 07 2014 11:50 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 11:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So basically you said "Killing is mafia because it's possible that boone is mafia aswell" and that somehow made VE super bad lynch? wtf? And you don't say any of this on D1, only AFTER the lynch?

It looked like Joey was going to get lynched and then there was a shady late push from Dandelion and Palmar. I mean, if Joey is town, then it doesn't matter too much, but if he's maf, the votes are very telling. No one cares about how the voting went down?

Of course i do. That's what i am trying to do here. I don't know Killing's alignment so i can't make conclusions based on assumptions he is town/mafia because they are nothing but WIFOM.

What i saw is that you did consider between VE/Killing, you didn't push either of the lynches, and now you are calling VE terrible lynch, which your posting at the end of D1 definitely does not back up. I am trying to figure out why you didn't push the lynch you thought was the best if - as you now claim - the other lynch was terrible.
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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 02:54 GMT
#1504
Also, I may have exaggerated terrible because he flipped town.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 02:56 GMT
#1505
I made plenty of points for why Joey is mafia. i didn't yell "EVERYONE ON JOEY," but I called him out on MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, how he was contradicting himself.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 02:59 GMT
#1506
On March 07 2014 11:50 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 11:37 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Rob, did JAT's thoughts in the QT change your read at all of Dandelion?

Please link me. I must have missed it


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/444554-foundation-mafia?page=72#1428
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 07 2014 03:11 GMT
#1507
Salaam
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 03:37 GMT
#1508
justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted
03-06-2014
03:42 PM ET (US)


Oh god this austin case... Much WIFOM.


this is SUPER FUCKING TOWNIE


GGTeMpLaR
03-06-2014
03:05 PM ET (US)
yea you make a good point actually..

if Dandel is mafia he can leave his vote on me and not get suspicion for hammering VE.


I disagree with you regarding dandelion vote. I had forgotten that his vote was on you. He was clearly around from what I remember and if he left his vote on a person that wasn't one of the top 2 wagons, that would have looked extraordinarily scummy.



I kinda like Temp right now, and his vote on VE isn't too suspicious given that VE expressed his suspicion of Temp, but I'm definitely going to be looking at Temp carefully moving forward
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 04:33 GMT
#1509
VE stopped being suspicious of me a while back
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 04:34 GMT
#1510
Just basing that off of what I read from your secret QT
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 04:34 GMT
#1511
It's hard for me to decipher QT time and forum time because forum time is like 15 hours ahead of my real time
boonetown
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada169 Posts
March 07 2014 05:39 GMT
#1512
On March 07 2014 11:30 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 11:24 boonetown wrote:
Templar, I am telling you my claim is real and I have no idea why I am alive unless they want to meta this. Furthermore, where did I use VE talking about you and the QT as a case against you? In fact, where have I called you mafia at all? All i'm saying is that I need to adjust the way I read you because I wasn't expecting your video/forum games to be this different, or getting a read on you to be so hard.

Yes I think you are being paranoid, and the shit you did at the beginning with the votes was hella weird. I think that's a pretty general consensus tho.


Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 08:37 boonetown wrote:
On March 05 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: GGTeMpLaR


Because there isn't support for the RNG.

I was torn between voting for GGTemp and voting for boone here, but boone stroked the ego in saying that she wanted to play with me, so GGTemp gets the vote. GGTemplar has been more useless than me this game, and I haven't even been here playing it. Not that GGTemp has been here, but he's at the very least pretended to have opinions on people. So far those opinions have consisted of a scumread on Alak (which his posts show no indication of releasing, barring an unvote) and a townread on his DM peeps (which his posts give no explanation for). He also did something really scummy in the foundation chat (of which I am a part) in coming in and saying "I know both of you are scum, don't even talk to me" as his very first act. My first reaction to being chosen as one of the foundation thingys was "Hmm I guess I better go check the OP to see if it's possible scum are in here....looks like it's possible, better be careful" and I'm town. My first reaction was NOT that I was certain scum were allowed to be in the Foundation chat. The only people who should feel that way as their first reaction should be scum - because they know scum are allowed in the chat.

Answer for Joey: I've been inactive because I was playing Video Mafia yesterday. Lurking isn't even accurate because until this morning, I hadn't even really read the thread.


The bolded part at first, felt to me like he was trying to look for something in templar to show us templar was mafia, now that i know VE is town, this is way more valid of a point.

On March 05 2014 07:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 05 2014 07:30 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 05 2014 04:28 boonetown wrote:
Boone, why is austin scum, and why is GGtemp voting badly, and has the other people you play video mafia with match their meta there so far?


Austin is leaning town more and more, which is unfortunate because I was pretty happy thinking I found a mafia in the QT. GGtemp, if you have ever seen him play, is the most paranoid town player in the history of mafia, ever. He would rather sleep every single day of the game in order to not mislynch someone. He only votes if he's mafia, or if he knows the vote won't go through, as a trolly way to make it look like he made a choice. Either templar isn't even trying, or he's mafia. That's where I'm currently at with his allignment.

VE what did you think of Boonetown's explanation of GGTemp's play because him saying you were both scum in QT lines up with her description of his town play.

I haven't played /much/ with GGTemp, but from my experience with him this isn't his town play. And Boone's conclusion said that he's either A) not trying at all or B) Mafia. I explained why I think his entrance to the QT is more in line with a scum perspective than a townie one. He didn't sound like a paranoid townie, he sounded like scum trying to sound like a paranoid townie.


I am going to take what he says about Templar more highly than my own read on him at this point. I think templar probably plays his forum mafia and video mafia very different and knowing that myself, killing and robik are in this game, he might play up his paranoia to get us to read him as town. If that's the case, screw you templar.

After he wrote this, Templar did his big ol' thread of pictures and reads on the DM people. IMO, if templar is mafia, the other DM people are likely all town. Why do I say this? If templar was mafia with someone from DM he wouldn't go out of his way to only read us as a priority over other players with little about anyone else, because we are well aware that he's played forum mafia before. He should be able to help us with reading a few of the TL players.



Bold answers the bold. Then later on in the same post you said "this is about killing vs templar at this point" with regards to calling me mafia. Maybe you didn't mean that but it sure as hell looked like you meant "killing vs templar as the lynch for today"

Can you cite any example of how I have been paranoid this game?


I said his point was valid and that I couldn't just trust my own read on you, not once did I say my read changed or that you were mafia Templar, dont get so defensive. I am asking you to help me read you as town, that's all.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 07 2014 09:57 GMT
#1513
On March 06 2014 07:32 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't know what Palmar's deal was today.

What's the problem, didn't I end up voting your lynch target?
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 09:58 GMT
#1514
Hey Palmar what's your read on ggtemplar?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 07 2014 10:03 GMT
#1515
On March 07 2014 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey Palmar what's your read on ggtemplar?


His consistency in yelling at you that you're scum seems somewhat genuine. On a general note I think his stance is too controversial for him to be mafia.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 10:07 GMT
#1516
On March 07 2014 19:03 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey Palmar what's your read on ggtemplar?


His consistency in yelling at you that you're scum seems somewhat genuine. On a general note I think his stance is too controversial for him to be mafia.

Did you read the game i posted? His scumgame.. where he acts just like this, attacks people and not their arguments and calls everyone who calls him scum mafia.

Nevermind, i'll make a case tonight if people don't even bother to investigate anything themselves.
table for two on a tv tray
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 07 2014 10:10 GMT
#1517
What we really need this game is some kind of a break, either a good vigi shot, a check, or a good lynch today.

@boone, yes it's extremely normal for me as either alignment to push policy lynches. I am very, very mad that you did not get lynched yesterday as claiming on day 1 is like the worst possible play you can make. I don't give a shit about alignments, day 1 roleclaimers should always be lynched. GJ, now we have to deal with wifom for the rest of the game why you haven't been shot yet! But now it's day 2, we have some information, so it's too late to push a policy lynch on you. yaaaay. If you're mafia, gj, you just won the game, if you're town, NEVER claim day 1 again. Note, if I was mafia I would say exactly the same thing, so this is not alignment indicative.

Policy lynching = good.

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 07 2014 10:11 GMT
#1518
On March 07 2014 19:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 19:03 Palmar wrote:
On March 07 2014 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey Palmar what's your read on ggtemplar?


His consistency in yelling at you that you're scum seems somewhat genuine. On a general note I think his stance is too controversial for him to be mafia.

Did you read the game i posted? His scumgame.. where he acts just like this, attacks people and not their arguments and calls everyone who calls him scum mafia.

Nevermind, i'll make a case tonight if people don't even bother to investigate anything themselves.

Might be, and tbh he did random things early and didn't come back until people were massively suspicious on him and there was a wagon. I wonder if he would've come back to the thread if VE/others weren't trying to lynch him.

And no I didn't read his scumgame, I don't do meta that I don't understand.
Computer says mafia
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2014 10:22 GMT
#1519
I say we lynch Boone today, I dont see why she didnt get shot and instead scum shot austin, a potential mislynch.
No gg, No skill.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 07 2014 10:28 GMT
#1520
On March 07 2014 19:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
I say we lynch Boone today, I dont see why she didnt get shot and instead scum shot austin, a potential mislynch.


I don't think austin is a potential mislynch. he was lazy early on but he came on really strong later in the day, I had even changed my mind on him before that last minute dance.

On March 06 2014 07:46 Palmar wrote:
I think austin may be town btw.


And no, we should have lynched boone yesterday. Today it's too late, today she's a claimed medic so let's just hope someone can either confirm her, or we lynch her much later in the game. Today we have to shoot for scum.

I think killing is an option, grack is an option, ggtemplar is an option... I'm not sure. Maybe I should re-look at dandel or you or rayn?

I have no idea tbh, I'm having (for some reason) a super hard time figuring this town out. Maybe I'm just having a bad game /shrug
Computer says mafia
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