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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 01:49 GMT
#1481
On March 07 2014 10:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I like this point the most:
Show nested quote +
I feel dumb for townreading Grack d1. I loved his point that he made against VE because I made the same point. So yes I liked him siding with me against VE, but it was literally a sheep read and now with VE flipping town, it looks even worse, especially when he pushed so hard on VE.

"I thought Grackaroni said something good but now that he was wrong it was not good but scummy instead. I did the same thing but me totes town of course".

Logic!


this is why you're mafia - you've straw manned me the entire game. idk if it's a language barrier thing but you're probably just mafia

The thing is he just sheeped it off of me and used it to propel forward a VE misslynch.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 01:51 GMT
#1482
That was literally his main reason for starting to tunnel onto VE.

I'm waiting for him to do something because I've got literally nothing on him now except that he sheeped my reason/read to propel forward a misslynch.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 01:56 GMT
#1483
Also slam what about my post made you unvote me?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 01:58 GMT
#1484
I can't believe i need to tell you how a mafia game works.

As town you either make your own arguments why someone is mafia or pick the good arguments other people make and agree with them and disagree with bad arguments. What you are suggesting here is that you made an argument and Grackaroni agreed with it. Grackaroni used your argument to push a lynch on VE (something you failed to do yourself). Now that your argument was in fact wrong, because VE was town, that suddenly makes Grackaroni more likely to be mafia.

That can't possibly be true if you are town because being wrong does not make anyone mafia.
You are basically arguing that your argument was bad in the first place, because otherwise Grackaroni would have been following a good argument.

In fact that makes you mafia.
/get dunked kid
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 02:02 GMT
#1485
Stop with your bullshit staw man shit already. The only thing you are able to do as mafia is discrediting other people for no good reasons as you do in this game. That's something that should be quite clear for anyone who reads the Really Small mafia game filter of yours.
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 02:05 GMT
#1486
On March 07 2014 10:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I can't believe i need to tell you how a mafia game works.

As town you either make your own arguments why someone is mafia or pick the good arguments other people make and agree with them and disagree with bad arguments. What you are suggesting here is that you made an argument and Grackaroni agreed with it.

Grackaroni used your argument to push a lynch on VE (something you failed to do yourself).

Now that your argument was in fact wrong, because VE was town,

that suddenly makes Grackaroni more likely to be mafia.

That can't possibly be true if you are town because

being wrong does not make anyone mafia.

You are basically arguing that your argument was bad in the first place

, because otherwise Grackaroni would have been following a good argument.

In fact that makes you mafia.
/get dunked kid


Yes Grack sheeped it to push a misslynch on VE.

Yes it makes him more likely to be mafia.

You're right being wrong doesn't make you mafia

My argument wasn't bad, his argument was bad. I refuted it. He never responded.

All the useless//irrelevant filler striked out leaves your argument making literally no fucking sense. You are scum who makes no fucking sense. If you were town you wouldn't be this retarded.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 07 2014 02:06 GMT
#1487
That it exists. Now I watch.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 02:06 GMT
#1488
On March 07 2014 11:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Stop with your bullshit staw man shit already. The only thing you are able to do as mafia is discrediting other people for no good reasons as you do in this game. That's something that should be quite clear for anyone who reads the Really Small mafia game filter of yours.


You just described yourself. Everyone should read the filters you linked because nothing about them makes me mafia. Your arguments suck.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 02:07 GMT
#1489
On March 07 2014 10:16 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
IAmRobik can you explain this:
Also, killing VE was so bad. I hope all mafia jumped onto VE there.

That's not what it looked like at the end of D1 based on your posts.

I voted for Killing, not VE. The reason I asked Austin for a case against VE wasn't that I thought VE was mafia, but because I wasn't sure on Austin's role, and Austin's response was the towniest response in the entire fucking thread, especially after VE flipped town. If I were mafia, I would be like "fuck this, I'm not making a case against a random townie just cause you asked me to, especially after i made it clear that I kinda think he's town." But he took the time to actually fulfill the request for a random townie. SO yeah...I used that to decide Austin was town, not to decipher VE's alignment.

ADDITIONALLY, I was hedging my bets against Boone's claim. If Boone claimed medic as mafia, she was voting VE over Killing. Thus I thought that voting for Joey would hedge my bets. If Boone is town, it doesn't mean that Killing is town or mafia, but if Boone is mafia then it's more likely for Killing to be mafia than VE. The push against Killing was super super scummy


AND FINALLY: it's really fucking annoying cause I keep writing Joey and having to delete it and re-write Killing


Robik, in these posts:
On March 06 2014 07:20 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 07:19 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 06 2014 07:18 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 06 2014 07:07 austinmcc wrote:
Robik, if you believe Killing is ... curious/mafia, and my case or posts on him is/are good, then why vote DI, who is not getting lynched today?

Cause I'm going to snipe vote the shit out of someone. Cause I'm town and I can do that type of shit and get away with it cause IDGAF about looking scummy (well I kinda do, but like, I'm super obv town so yah)

Well, do you care about winning?

I do. Very much so. Will vote how I feel is right. Want more information before I decide between VE/Joey.

On March 06 2014 07:34 IAmRobik wrote:
JAT, my homie, are you going to be changing your vote or are you sold on Temp being scum? I would much prefer a lynch out of Joey (killing) or VE.


On March 06 2014 07:47 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 07:43 IAmRobik wrote:
Joey was _NOT_ making up his reads. Stop it.

To clarify....JOEY'S READS HAVEN'T EVEN CHANGED SINCE HE'S REEVALUATED. READ WHAT HE SAID AND READ HOW HE WAS CONVINCED HE NEEDED TO REREAD AND REEVALUATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE SAID HE WAS SO WRONG AND CAME TO THE SAME CONCLUSIONS AS BEFORE.


Austin...PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do me a favor and make a quick case against VE (even if you think Joey is more scummy)

...you definitely do not think Killing is a good lynch and VE is "terrible".

What happened after this that made VE go to "terrible" lynch? I am well aware you voted for Killing but again, what you said at the start of D2 does not line up with your posts on D1.
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 02:07 GMT
#1490
##Vote: Rayn
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 07 2014 02:08 GMT
#1491
I watch
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 07 2014 02:09 GMT
#1492
Much
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
boonetown
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada169 Posts
March 07 2014 02:24 GMT
#1493
Templar, I am telling you my claim is real and I have no idea why I am alive unless they want to meta this. Furthermore, where did I use VE talking about you and the QT as a case against you? In fact, where have I called you mafia at all? All i'm saying is that I need to adjust the way I read you because I wasn't expecting your video/forum games to be this different, or getting a read on you to be so hard.

Yes I think you are being paranoid, and the shit you did at the beginning with the votes was hella weird. I think that's a pretty general consensus tho.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 02:25 GMT
#1494
I explained why I voted the way I did. I expressed how much more scummy Joey was than anyone else in the game. I also explained why it's better to vote Joey there than VE 100% of the time given Boone's claim. I really wished I could be on the same side as you, but like, you're playing so similarly to the GSL game, and based off of our experience as mafia together in video mafia, I know how much you love to push people you think are "easier" lynches. So the fact that you're going after both Temp and me today, makes me very very suspicious of you.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 02:30 GMT
#1495
On March 07 2014 11:24 boonetown wrote:
Templar, I am telling you my claim is real and I have no idea why I am alive unless they want to meta this. Furthermore, where did I use VE talking about you and the QT as a case against you? In fact, where have I called you mafia at all? All i'm saying is that I need to adjust the way I read you because I wasn't expecting your video/forum games to be this different, or getting a read on you to be so hard.

Yes I think you are being paranoid, and the shit you did at the beginning with the votes was hella weird. I think that's a pretty general consensus tho.


On March 07 2014 08:37 boonetown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: GGTeMpLaR


Because there isn't support for the RNG.

I was torn between voting for GGTemp and voting for boone here, but boone stroked the ego in saying that she wanted to play with me, so GGTemp gets the vote. GGTemplar has been more useless than me this game, and I haven't even been here playing it. Not that GGTemp has been here, but he's at the very least pretended to have opinions on people. So far those opinions have consisted of a scumread on Alak (which his posts show no indication of releasing, barring an unvote) and a townread on his DM peeps (which his posts give no explanation for). He also did something really scummy in the foundation chat (of which I am a part) in coming in and saying "I know both of you are scum, don't even talk to me" as his very first act. My first reaction to being chosen as one of the foundation thingys was "Hmm I guess I better go check the OP to see if it's possible scum are in here....looks like it's possible, better be careful" and I'm town. My first reaction was NOT that I was certain scum were allowed to be in the Foundation chat. The only people who should feel that way as their first reaction should be scum - because they know scum are allowed in the chat.

Answer for Joey: I've been inactive because I was playing Video Mafia yesterday. Lurking isn't even accurate because until this morning, I hadn't even really read the thread.


The bolded part at first, felt to me like he was trying to look for something in templar to show us templar was mafia, now that i know VE is town, this is way more valid of a point.

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 07:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 05 2014 07:30 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 05 2014 04:28 boonetown wrote:
Boone, why is austin scum, and why is GGtemp voting badly, and has the other people you play video mafia with match their meta there so far?


Austin is leaning town more and more, which is unfortunate because I was pretty happy thinking I found a mafia in the QT. GGtemp, if you have ever seen him play, is the most paranoid town player in the history of mafia, ever. He would rather sleep every single day of the game in order to not mislynch someone. He only votes if he's mafia, or if he knows the vote won't go through, as a trolly way to make it look like he made a choice. Either templar isn't even trying, or he's mafia. That's where I'm currently at with his allignment.

VE what did you think of Boonetown's explanation of GGTemp's play because him saying you were both scum in QT lines up with her description of his town play.

I haven't played /much/ with GGTemp, but from my experience with him this isn't his town play. And Boone's conclusion said that he's either A) not trying at all or B) Mafia. I explained why I think his entrance to the QT is more in line with a scum perspective than a townie one. He didn't sound like a paranoid townie, he sounded like scum trying to sound like a paranoid townie.


I am going to take what he says about Templar more highly than my own read on him at this point. I think templar probably plays his forum mafia and video mafia very different and knowing that myself, killing and robik are in this game, he might play up his paranoia to get us to read him as town. If that's the case, screw you templar.

After he wrote this, Templar did his big ol' thread of pictures and reads on the DM people. IMO, if templar is mafia, the other DM people are likely all town. Why do I say this? If templar was mafia with someone from DM he wouldn't go out of his way to only read us as a priority over other players with little about anyone else, because we are well aware that he's played forum mafia before. He should be able to help us with reading a few of the TL players.



Bold answers the bold. Then later on in the same post you said "this is about killing vs templar at this point" with regards to calling me mafia. Maybe you didn't mean that but it sure as hell looked like you meant "killing vs templar as the lynch for today"

Can you cite any example of how I have been paranoid this game?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 02:30 GMT
#1496
So basically you said "Killing is mafia because it's possible that boone is mafia aswell" and that somehow made VE super bad lynch? wtf? And you don't say any of this on D1, only AFTER the lynch?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 02:31 GMT
#1497
EBWOP: that was to robik
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 02:32 GMT
#1498
And why the fuck you keep calling me out for "going after easy lynches" because you are super good player and obviously you can read me so well in your opinion, so you can't possibly be an easy lynch.

Can you make some real arguments if you think i am mafia?
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 07 2014 02:37 GMT
#1499
Rob, did JAT's thoughts in the QT change your read at all of Dandelion?
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 02:50 GMT
#1500
On March 07 2014 11:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So basically you said "Killing is mafia because it's possible that boone is mafia aswell" and that somehow made VE super bad lynch? wtf? And you don't say any of this on D1, only AFTER the lynch?

It looked like Joey was going to get lynched and then there was a shady late push from Dandelion and Palmar. I mean, if Joey is town, then it doesn't matter too much, but if he's maf, the votes are very telling. No one cares about how the voting went down?
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