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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 05 2014 21:19 GMT
#1241
On March 06 2014 06:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 06:08 Palmar wrote:
On March 06 2014 06:06 justanothertownie wrote:
Palmar! Where are you?

I no longer care about this game. Everyone is refusing to play so why should I.

Lynch me if you want to, I'm gonna vote and afk for the rest of the game.

I'm playing the game, wtf is this?

Good, enjoy solving it.
Computer says mafia
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 05 2014 21:22 GMT
#1242
Mattchew: I learned how to play the game from Palmar
Me: Oh, I'm excited to play with Palmar
Palmar: Fuck this game.

A+
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 21:25 GMT
#1243
On March 06 2014 06:22 IAmRobik wrote:
Mattchew: I learned how to play the game from Palmar
Me: Oh, I'm excited to play with Palmar
Palmar: Fuck this game.

A+


maybe you should stop voting the guy who isn't going to get lynched today and make your vote useful so your townread doesn't get misslynched
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 21:26 GMT
#1244
(that being me)
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 05 2014 21:27 GMT
#1245
On March 06 2014 03:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 03:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2014 03:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Boone is a hard read on Forum mafia. She's very good at Video Mafia, but one thing I've noticed about her play in Video Mafia is that it's based EXCLUSIVELY on body reads. She has NEVER in my experience with her made a read based on what people have said, logic, contradictions, anything. She has SPECTACULAR reads....when they're made based on body reads.

That being said, I'm willing to give her more time to prove to at least me that she's just out of her medium here.

##Unvote
##Vote: Killing

Why are you voting for Killing over ggtemplar?

Because when I reread Templar before I slept I felt better about him. I see you've got a case against him now, let me go have a look-see.


This may be unfortunate wording on VE's part and thus a null issue, but it's actually a straight up lie if this is _exactly_ what he meant.

Computer says mafia
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 05 2014 21:28 GMT
#1246
slam, still same question

boone, why is Killing town?

He was a townread in your first list of reads, without really any reasoning. You say you don't think he's mafia
On March 06 2014 06:00 boonetown wrote:
I'm so fucking confused this game, and i hate you all. My reads are literally changing by the minute and I hate it, I feel like a flip flopping fool right now.

I dont think Killing or templar are mafia.


but your only meat on him is here:
On March 06 2014 02:37 boonetown wrote:
GGtemplar plays very paranoid and standoffish as town, and pretty trolly/vote happy as mafia. My initial read on him was mafia because he was throwing votes around like they were nothing and with no explaination, but he then gave his post of shit, which was perfect for me. That's town templar almost to a tee.

my read on killing is more complicated, because i hate him as a person but love him as a player. i think he's smart enough to realize when i'm acting differently, and until his recent post he was doing that. I dont want to say he's mafia because of his most recent post, joey is ALWAYS nervous of my allignment, and views me as mafia 99% of the time. I see this as no different.


Which is that you think he's smart enough to do what he was doing but then wasn't doing. And that he's nervous of your alignment, and ALWAYS is such.

Can you...speak about his read on you, or his admission that he's just making stuff up?
Fe fi fo fum.
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
March 05 2014 21:30 GMT
#1247
Austin, if you somehow found out I was town, who would be your lynch
boonetown
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada169 Posts
March 05 2014 21:32 GMT
#1248
On March 06 2014 06:02 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 06:00 boonetown wrote:
I'm so fucking confused this game, and i hate you all. My reads are literally changing by the minute and I hate it, I feel like a flip flopping fool right now.

I dont think Killing or templar are mafia.


Did you read his last post alignment indicative at all?


when have you ever seen joey so vulnerable and willing to admit his faults? i think i've only seen it once, and he was town who realized he was super fucking wrong on everything.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 05 2014 21:33 GMT
#1249
On March 06 2014 06:30 Killing wrote:
Austin, if you somehow found out I was town, who would be your lynch
Likely slam.

I'm not as sold on GGTemplar as others. There are conversations he carries on that read townie to me. I don't care that he calls 4-5 people scummy. I think the targets he chose there (VE when VE wasn't being discussed, Palmar for fluff when nobody wanted to lynch Palmar) are super sexy mafia-inclined targets.

None of the other vote-getters really rev me up
Fe fi fo fum.
boonetown
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada169 Posts
March 05 2014 21:34 GMT
#1250
On March 06 2014 06:08 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 06:06 justanothertownie wrote:
Palmar! Where are you?

I no longer care about this game. Everyone is refusing to play so why should I.

Lynch me if you want to, I'm gonna vote and afk for the rest of the game.





austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 05 2014 21:34 GMT
#1251
On March 06 2014 06:32 boonetown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 06:02 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 06 2014 06:00 boonetown wrote:
I'm so fucking confused this game, and i hate you all. My reads are literally changing by the minute and I hate it, I feel like a flip flopping fool right now.

I dont think Killing or templar are mafia.


Did you read his last post alignment indicative at all?


when have you ever seen joey so vulnerable and willing to admit his faults? i think i've only seen it once, and he was town who realized he was super fucking wrong on everything.
Please explain this, as well as the other stuff re: killing.

What faults is he admitting to, in your opinion? How is admitting them townie?
Fe fi fo fum.
boonetown
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada169 Posts
March 05 2014 21:37 GMT
#1252
On March 06 2014 06:28 austinmcc wrote:
slam, still same question

boone, why is Killing town?

He was a townread in your first list of reads, without really any reasoning. You say you don't think he's mafia
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 06:00 boonetown wrote:
I'm so fucking confused this game, and i hate you all. My reads are literally changing by the minute and I hate it, I feel like a flip flopping fool right now.

I dont think Killing or templar are mafia.


but your only meat on him is here:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 02:37 boonetown wrote:
GGtemplar plays very paranoid and standoffish as town, and pretty trolly/vote happy as mafia. My initial read on him was mafia because he was throwing votes around like they were nothing and with no explaination, but he then gave his post of shit, which was perfect for me. That's town templar almost to a tee.

my read on killing is more complicated, because i hate him as a person but love him as a player. i think he's smart enough to realize when i'm acting differently, and until his recent post he was doing that. I dont want to say he's mafia because of his most recent post, joey is ALWAYS nervous of my allignment, and views me as mafia 99% of the time. I see this as no different.


Which is that you think he's smart enough to do what he was doing but then wasn't doing. And that he's nervous of your alignment, and ALWAYS is such.

Can you...speak about his read on you, or his admission that he's just making stuff up?


From my experience with killing, he's very unwilling to admit he's wrong, especially as mafia. Joey is very proud and stubborn. For me, there is no way right now that he's mafia, but in the same breath i need to make it clear that I don't think that Templar is mafia either so I'm torn on my vote because if it's between the two, I have to figure out which it is.



austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 05 2014 21:39 GMT
#1253
What did he admit that he was wrong about?
Fe fi fo fum.
boonetown
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada169 Posts
March 05 2014 21:39 GMT
#1254
On March 06 2014 06:34 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 06:32 boonetown wrote:
On March 06 2014 06:02 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 06 2014 06:00 boonetown wrote:
I'm so fucking confused this game, and i hate you all. My reads are literally changing by the minute and I hate it, I feel like a flip flopping fool right now.

I dont think Killing or templar are mafia.


Did you read his last post alignment indicative at all?


when have you ever seen joey so vulnerable and willing to admit his faults? i think i've only seen it once, and he was town who realized he was super fucking wrong on everything.
Please explain this, as well as the other stuff re: killing.

What faults is he admitting to, in your opinion? How is admitting them townie?


What the hell are you doing. Stop grilling me, read what I wrote. Read what he wrote. Puzzles, pieces... TOGETHER THEY FIT!
boonetown
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada169 Posts
March 05 2014 21:41 GMT
#1255
On March 06 2014 06:39 austinmcc wrote:
What did he admit that he was wrong about?



you need to stop being so fucking lazy. go read what he wrote and it explains it all.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 05 2014 21:44 GMT
#1256
You said he's "willing to admit his faults" here, and "unwilling to admit he's wrong" when he plays scum.

I personally think that's a misrepresentation of this
On March 06 2014 05:26 Killing wrote:
Ok, so I don't really know where to start with this. I read a bit that people hated what I had to say earlier so I went to re-read it and couldn't stop laughing at how terrible it was. I think I've been going about playing thsi shit completely wrong. I was just straight up making shit up and pretending to know what I was talking about. I'm so used to knowing exactly what's going on and to having strong reads that I think I was compensating but trying to give too much except that it was all obvious garbage. It's really uncomfortable being in this position where I really don't know what's going on even though I wish I did.

Everything I've done up to now has deserved a lynch. I've played pretty fucking terribly and none of my reads are actually that good. I def gonna start playing differently starting now since I've recognized what's been going on. The most I can do for town right now is prove to you somehow that I'm town. I'm basically starting over from now. I've scrapped basically all my reads and I'm probably going to go and re-read most of the game again with a different mindset.

Especially things like
I've played pretty fucking terribly and none of my reads are actually that good.
I was just straight up making shit up and pretending to know what I was talking about.
As to the first, how does he know his reads are bad? Nobody has flipped. He has no way of knowing whether his reads are good, bad, 50/50, anything. He's apologizing for having BAD READS on D1 when we don't know any alignments.

In the second bit, he says he was STRAIGHT UP MAKING SHIT UP. You don't "apologize" for making shit up, or "admit that you were wrong" to make shit up. You don't make everything up and go "oops, it was wrong to do that." You KNOW it's wrong to MANUFACTURE FALSE STUFF.

I don't think saying "i screwed up by making shit up" is a ... townie apology. Making shit up is a BAD THING. It's a SCUMMY THING. Manufacturing reads is straight up scummy, and saying you did it doesn't make it townie.


I am grilling you because I think when you say him apologizing = town, you gloss over the specifics of what he said he's done and will do. "My posts were scummy and my reads were bad (but I can't know this) and I made stuff up, but I'll scrap some of that and PROBABLY go re-read the thred" is not, imo, a townie thing at all.
Fe fi fo fum.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 21:44 GMT
#1257
On March 06 2014 06:32 boonetown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 06:02 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 06 2014 06:00 boonetown wrote:
I'm so fucking confused this game, and i hate you all. My reads are literally changing by the minute and I hate it, I feel like a flip flopping fool right now.

I dont think Killing or templar are mafia.


Did you read his last post alignment indicative at all?


when have you ever seen joey so vulnerable and willing to admit his faults? i think i've only seen it once, and he was town who realized he was super fucking wrong on everything.


Well since you're actually not reading me more town than him, I'll just say that he wasn't really vulnerable/admitting his faults here

He basically just said:

[image loading]

and tossed all his reads out the window without giving any new ones
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
March 05 2014 21:45 GMT
#1258
On March 06 2014 06:39 austinmcc wrote:
What did he admit that he was wrong about?


Filter me, it's a couple pages back. I'm starting my game over again because everything I've written so far was pretty terrible.
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
March 05 2014 21:45 GMT
#1259
I can confirm GGtemplar's post is correct LOL
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
March 05 2014 21:46 GMT
#1260
On March 06 2014 06:44 austinmcc wrote:
You said he's "willing to admit his faults" here, and "unwilling to admit he's wrong" when he plays scum.

I personally think that's a misrepresentation of this
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 05:26 Killing wrote:
Ok, so I don't really know where to start with this. I read a bit that people hated what I had to say earlier so I went to re-read it and couldn't stop laughing at how terrible it was. I think I've been going about playing thsi shit completely wrong. I was just straight up making shit up and pretending to know what I was talking about. I'm so used to knowing exactly what's going on and to having strong reads that I think I was compensating but trying to give too much except that it was all obvious garbage. It's really uncomfortable being in this position where I really don't know what's going on even though I wish I did.

Everything I've done up to now has deserved a lynch. I've played pretty fucking terribly and none of my reads are actually that good. I def gonna start playing differently starting now since I've recognized what's been going on. The most I can do for town right now is prove to you somehow that I'm town. I'm basically starting over from now. I've scrapped basically all my reads and I'm probably going to go and re-read most of the game again with a different mindset.

Especially things like
Show nested quote +
I've played pretty fucking terribly and none of my reads are actually that good.
Show nested quote +
I was just straight up making shit up and pretending to know what I was talking about.
As to the first, how does he know his reads are bad? Nobody has flipped. He has no way of knowing whether his reads are good, bad, 50/50, anything. He's apologizing for having BAD READS on D1 when we don't know any alignments.

In the second bit, he says he was STRAIGHT UP MAKING SHIT UP. You don't "apologize" for making shit up, or "admit that you were wrong" to make shit up. You don't make everything up and go "oops, it was wrong to do that." You KNOW it's wrong to MANUFACTURE FALSE STUFF.

I don't think saying "i screwed up by making shit up" is a ... townie apology. Making shit up is a BAD THING. It's a SCUMMY THING. Manufacturing reads is straight up scummy, and saying you did it doesn't make it townie.


I am grilling you because I think when you say him apologizing = town, you gloss over the specifics of what he said he's done and will do. "My posts were scummy and my reads were bad (but I can't know this) and I made stuff up, but I'll scrap some of that and PROBABLY go re-read the thred" is not, imo, a townie thing at all.


WELL I DIDN'T REALLY WANNA JUST SIT THERE AS TOWN AND SAY THE FUCK IS GOING ON but at this point I think it's best for my game as well as overall town.
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