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On March 07 2014 08:36 Alakaslam wrote:
Folks
HARI SELDON IS THE MAN WHO CREATED THE FOUNDATION
lol
Who here knows what foundation is? This is great flavor and it is flinging over everyone's head
I am an idiot... just caught that. Um.. I hadn't thought to check out anything about the foundation until Austin brought it up in the QT and made some really interested points. I'm not ready to reveal that part of what he said tho, not yet anyway.
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Austin says (in order as I read)
Jat worries him. The only thing he really liked about JAT was that he questioned if the QT's should be open about what's discussed within them. He thinks JAT is a little too interested in the QTs, and that you didnt really do much other that ask a lot of questions about it. He questioned why you rebuffed VE wanted to talk about templar, when you're all in a QT together. He thinks that you were trying to put together an attack/case against me by questioning my reasons for my reads on Austin.
"His suspects are all the common suspects. No idea who to lynch, maybe Killing/GG/Boone. Shocker. Won't kill VE (why?), slam (why?), DI (why?)" that was about JAT still.
This is also really good to bring up I think :
"He's NEVER giving his own reasons for why GGtemplar or killing or anyone are mafia. And he's chippy with oats, like...calling oats out for not making points to convince JAT of something, while JAT never takes the time to make original points against ANYONE."
Is that typical of JAT, cause I was actually reading him super town yesterday.
He wanted to know about past games JAT was in.
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On March 07 2014 08:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 08:39 boonetown wrote:On March 07 2014 08:36 Alakaslam wrote:
Folks
HARI SELDON IS THE MAN WHO CREATED THE FOUNDATION
lol
Who here knows what foundation is? This is great flavor and it is flinging over everyone's head I am an idiot... just caught that. Um.. I hadn't thought to check out anything about the foundation until Austin brought it up in the QT and made some really interested points. I'm not ready to reveal that part of what he said tho, not yet anyway. If you mean post 48 it's stupid setup specualtion and 100% wrong because VE already flipped and hosts would be lying.
Yes, but just because part of it isn't true, doesn't mean part of it can't be true. I hope that made sense.
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On March 07 2014 08:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 08:47 boonetown wrote:On March 07 2014 08:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 07 2014 08:39 boonetown wrote:On March 07 2014 08:36 Alakaslam wrote:
Folks
HARI SELDON IS THE MAN WHO CREATED THE FOUNDATION
lol
Who here knows what foundation is? This is great flavor and it is flinging over everyone's head I am an idiot... just caught that. Um.. I hadn't thought to check out anything about the foundation until Austin brought it up in the QT and made some really interested points. I'm not ready to reveal that part of what he said tho, not yet anyway. If you mean post 48 it's stupid setup specualtion and 100% wrong because VE already flipped and hosts would be lying. Yes, but just because part of it isn't true, doesn't mean part of it can't be true. I hope that made sense. He basically suggests the foundation mason QT is mafia which cannot possibly be true based on OP (and VE flipping town).
that's not what he was suggesting at all, actually. read it again and maybe we should discuss it in the QT before discussing it in here?
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On March 07 2014 08:50 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 08:37 boonetown wrote:
That being said, killing you have had 24 hours to "renew" your game, give me something good or I cannot read you the same as I do in video mafia.
![[image loading]](http://www.zeldainformer.com/2011/11/19/finalday.jpg) DO NOT FEAR FOR I AM HERE I HAVE LIVED THROUGH THE NIGHT AND CAN NOW RELIEVE THIS PLIGHT A BLIND MAN MUST LEAD THAT IS WHAT WE NEED ALL SCUM MUST FEAR FOR I AM HERE
what did you do the last 24 hours? make a rhyme? GO GO GO
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On March 07 2014 08:53 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 08:52 boonetown wrote:On March 07 2014 08:50 Killing wrote:On March 07 2014 08:37 boonetown wrote:
That being said, killing you have had 24 hours to "renew" your game, give me something good or I cannot read you the same as I do in video mafia.
DO NOT FEAR FOR I AM HERE I HAVE LIVED THROUGH THE NIGHT AND CAN NOW RELIEVE THIS PLIGHT A BLIND MAN MUST LEAD THAT IS WHAT WE NEED ALL SCUM MUST FEAR FOR I AM HERE what did you do the last 24 hours? make a rhyme? GO GO GO If I say yes, would you be upset?
i would probably insta-vote you actually.
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On March 07 2014 09:01 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 09:00 justanothertownie wrote:On March 07 2014 08:58 Killing wrote:
No, I'm just saying it's gonna be ridiculously hard to prove that I'm town but I plan on doing so. Fine. Stop saying so and start doing it. Your alignment is pretty important here. I promise to make it clear that I'm town in the current day. I'm gonna put a fair amount of time into this game from now on since it's clear that you gotta make a wall of text to get shit done.
here is my problem with you right now... you said yesterday that you didn't feel like you did well at figuring out this game but that you would be sure to do it. you want us to see you're town and you want to prove it, you also want to be good at this game so you're starting new. so why didnt you take the last 24 hours to read over the game, get new reads and impress us. instead, you're still acting like you don't care and like it doesn't really matter. if your plan is to act like you don't care to seem towny, it's not working for me.
when we are town together, we are amazing. wtf are you doing right now.
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On March 07 2014 09:02 Alakaslam wrote:
What' up now?
Are we lynching robik or Templar?
why would we lynch robik?? lol
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Templar, I am telling you my claim is real and I have no idea why I am alive unless they want to meta this. Furthermore, where did I use VE talking about you and the QT as a case against you? In fact, where have I called you mafia at all? All i'm saying is that I need to adjust the way I read you because I wasn't expecting your video/forum games to be this different, or getting a read on you to be so hard.
Yes I think you are being paranoid, and the shit you did at the beginning with the votes was hella weird. I think that's a pretty general consensus tho.
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On March 07 2014 11:30 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 11:24 boonetown wrote:
Templar, I am telling you my claim is real and I have no idea why I am alive unless they want to meta this. Furthermore, where did I use VE talking about you and the QT as a case against you? In fact, where have I called you mafia at all? All i'm saying is that I need to adjust the way I read you because I wasn't expecting your video/forum games to be this different, or getting a read on you to be so hard.
Yes I think you are being paranoid, and the shit you did at the beginning with the votes was hella weird. I think that's a pretty general consensus tho. Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 08:37 boonetown wrote:On March 05 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: GGTeMpLaR
Because there isn't support for the RNG.
I was torn between voting for GGTemp and voting for boone here, but boone stroked the ego in saying that she wanted to play with me, so GGTemp gets the vote. GGTemplar has been more useless than me this game, and I haven't even been here playing it. Not that GGTemp has been here, but he's at the very least pretended to have opinions on people. So far those opinions have consisted of a scumread on Alak (which his posts show no indication of releasing, barring an unvote) and a townread on his DM peeps (which his posts give no explanation for). He also did something really scummy in the foundation chat (of which I am a part) in coming in and saying "I know both of you are scum, don't even talk to me" as his very first act. My first reaction to being chosen as one of the foundation thingys was "Hmm I guess I better go check the OP to see if it's possible scum are in here....looks like it's possible, better be careful" and I'm town. My first reaction was NOT that I was certain scum were allowed to be in the Foundation chat. The only people who should feel that way as their first reaction should be scum - because they know scum are allowed in the chat.
Answer for Joey: I've been inactive because I was playing Video Mafia yesterday. Lurking isn't even accurate because until this morning, I hadn't even really read the thread. The bolded part at first, felt to me like he was trying to look for something in templar to show us templar was mafia, now that i know VE is town, this is way more valid of a point. On March 05 2014 07:41 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 05 2014 07:30 Grackaroni wrote:On March 05 2014 04:28 boonetown wrote: Boone, why is austin scum, and why is GGtemp voting badly, and has the other people you play video mafia with match their meta there so far? Austin is leaning town more and more, which is unfortunate because I was pretty happy thinking I found a mafia in the QT. GGtemp, if you have ever seen him play, is the most paranoid town player in the history of mafia, ever. He would rather sleep every single day of the game in order to not mislynch someone. He only votes if he's mafia, or if he knows the vote won't go through, as a trolly way to make it look like he made a choice. Either templar isn't even trying, or he's mafia. That's where I'm currently at with his allignment. VE what did you think of Boonetown's explanation of GGTemp's play because him saying you were both scum in QT lines up with her description of his town play. I haven't played /much/ with GGTemp, but from my experience with him this isn't his town play. And Boone's conclusion said that he's either A) not trying at all or B) Mafia. I explained why I think his entrance to the QT is more in line with a scum perspective than a townie one. He didn't sound like a paranoid townie, he sounded like scum trying to sound like a paranoid townie. I am going to take what he says about Templar more highly than my own read on him at this point. I think templar probably plays his forum mafia and video mafia very different and knowing that myself, killing and robik are in this game, he might play up his paranoia to get us to read him as town. If that's the case, screw you templar. After he wrote this, Templar did his big ol' thread of pictures and reads on the DM people. IMO, if templar is mafia, the other DM people are likely all town. Why do I say this? If templar was mafia with someone from DM he wouldn't go out of his way to only read us as a priority over other players with little about anyone else, because we are well aware that he's played forum mafia before. He should be able to help us with reading a few of the TL players. Bold answers the bold. Then later on in the same post you said "this is about killing vs templar at this point" with regards to calling me mafia. Maybe you didn't mean that but it sure as hell looked like you meant "killing vs templar as the lynch for today" Can you cite any example of how I have been paranoid this game?
I said his point was valid and that I couldn't just trust my own read on you, not once did I say my read changed or that you were mafia Templar, dont get so defensive. I am asking you to help me read you as town, that's all.
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once again, replying in one spot as i read it. i'm sure this isnt the way to do it but i dont want to have 6-7 different little posts one after the other. if you guys would rather that, let me know and i'll change the way i'm responding.
On March 07 2014 19:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
I say we lynch Boone today, I dont see why she didnt get shot and instead scum shot austin, a potential mislynch.
This seems rather silly, considering we dont know that I didnt get a save last night. I could have saved someone a vigi tried to shoot (if there are actually vigis in the game on either side) I agree that it's weird that I am not dead yet, unless they wanted this exact scenario to play out.
On March 07 2014 21:39 Dandel Ion wrote:Robik is scum and by far the best lynch today. - Only goes after easy targets
- Tries to shift blame for the day1 mislynch like a boss just because the mislynch he was on didn't get through (just look at what he said about the VE lynch yesterday in comparison to what he's saying today)
- His reads are clearly fake because they don't change naturally like they would if he was town
- They also are only made to fit the 'conclusions' he's trying to push, he decided what his conclusio is first and then posts things that support it ignoring everything that doesn't.
Because bitches love this shit I'm even gonna give you a prime example: Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 12:37 IAmRobik wrote:GGTeMpLaR
03-06-2014
03:05 PM ET (US)
yea you make a good point actually..
if Dandel is mafia he can leave his vote on me and not get suspicion for hammering VE. I disagree with you regarding dandelion vote. I had forgotten that his vote was on you. He was clearly around from what I remember and if he left his vote on a person that wasn't one of the top 2 wagons, that would have looked extraordinarily scummy. I'm extraordinarily scummy for changing my vote last minute. However, I would also have been extraordinarily scummy for not changing my vote. What does that mean? That Robik doesn't think about the game. He's decided to act like he's decided I'm mafia, so now everything ever in the whole world has to mean I'm mafia. Ignoring the fact that I'm confirmed town times 20. He does the same thing to Killing. Just yells mafia, not even trying to figure out whether that's true or not. vote et al
Holy crap.. I've never really had to read into someone's words so much but what you say makes a lot of sense. So, Robert is acting as tho he's not trying to find mafia, he's picked people and he's going to try everything he can to convince people they are mafia, true or not.
I just thought he was actually trying to win this game, which is why I thought he was town. Now that I am actually looking back at all the things he's said, it's scary how right you are.
this is being put in after i finished reading the last 5 pages. my judgement on robert stands. i think he's town. in my experience town robert fights way harder and gets far more upset and rude than mafia robert does. the only time i've every seen robert act this way as mafia was in a final 3 scenario. i truly believe he's town. i don't think we can afford to lynch another town just because we want the BS to stop.
On March 07 2014 23:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok boys, it has been really funny but stop it now, will you?
good choice of words. you're my top town now.
On March 07 2014 23:49 justanothertownie wrote:
The people more familiar with robik are free to tell us if this outburst of rage is genuine and expectable.
Unfortunately this is pretty normal for robert. We just tend to tell him to fuck off, shut up and stop being an ass. There are usually two asses in game tho, and we tell the other one the same.
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Here's what I'm going to say, in hopes that I can become a clear. If there was a vigi that shot last night, you should come out. I did put a save on someone and if you tried to shoot that person and they are still alive, I think it would be in your best interested to out that you did so, so that I am no longer a question mark in people's minds.
There is a chance that a vigi didn't shoot yet, or that there isn't even one in the game, I'm just saying if you shot and they are alive, please come forward so that people can stop thinking I'm mafia.
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i'm still not sure Palmar is town, but he's being much more helpful and useful today.
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On March 08 2014 04:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
Why would you even protect a vig target
cause i'm an idiot? i protected someone i read as town. that's all.
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On March 08 2014 04:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah boone, why do you think Vig shot your target? Do you _know_ that scum shot austin?
i _KNOW_ that i didn't put my save on him. so yes, i know he was shot by mafia, it's either that or mafia shot the person i saved and vigi shot austin. wtf are you trying to prove right now?
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so, if vigi shot austin, or someone that is alive, they should out it so that people can get off my ass. also, we would have another confirmed town in the vigi.
now that i think about it, what would mafia shoot austin, purely to dodge a medic save?
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On March 08 2014 05:37 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2014 04:10 boonetown wrote:
i'm still not sure Palmar is town, but he's being much more helpful and useful today. I really have to disagree here. Palmar gave some general advice and lectured robik. What has he done besides that? He has been useless today.
but am i wrong in saying he's done more today as town than yesterday?
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After looking over the last 85 pages, and hopefully i'm not missing too much shit and getting confused but I feel like my reads on d1 were really wrong.
Originally i had:
TOWN:
Robik
Rayn
Oats
Alaka
JAT
Leaning town after my reread:
Temp
Dandel
Killing
SCUM:
VE
Palmar
Leaning scum after my reread:
Austin
No Fucking Idea:
Grack
Now, that's different. I think in order I would lynch Killing, Dandel, Grack, JAT, OATS and then if the game wasnt over I'd look at Palmar again.
Dandel vs Rob is really weird for me, because at first i thought they were just idiots going at each other, now I think Dandel is purposely trying to upset rob so that people will vote him. I also dont like the point that was made earlier about his switch vote from Killing to VE.
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On March 08 2014 09:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
You should do the same thing Robik should have done years ago:
Realize everyone that has ever played a game with me knows I'm town.
Plenty people that haven't still realize I'm town.
Figure out why that is the case.
Then stop wasting your time on me.
I'm also not trying to "upset him", I tried my best to rationally engage the subject, and later himself, but he can't have a conversation without insulting people and I honestly have no idea why he hasn't been modkilled hor his behavior.
I find it preposterous that you, like Robik, look to blame ME for his behavior. Like I have anything at all to do with what he decides to do.
You should rather question why he's so dead set on getting angry at anything and nothing all the time.
Um, I didnt blame you for his behavior, that is all on him, but I find it interesting that despite the fact that you were both taking part in that shit storm, people were more willing to vote him than you. I guess it just doesnt sit well with me, but that's because I think he's town. I also thought you were town, so i'm reevaluating my own game, my own thoughts, my own actions and thus, my reads on other people based on their game, and their actions. You are NOT confirmed town for me, and I dont really care that others think or 'know' youre town, it just means they have information that i dont. Until I know it, it's not fact.
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**please note this is going to be my first time just replying to posts as i see them, so shit might change along the lines, since there are 10 pages to go through. derp derp.
On March 08 2014 23:09 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2014 09:30 boonetown wrote:
Now, that's different. I think in order I would lynch Killing, Dandel, Grack, JAT, OATS and then if the game wasnt over I'd look at Palmar again.
Dandel vs Rob is really weird for me, because at first i thought they were just idiots going at each other, now I think Dandel is purposely trying to upset rob so that people will vote him. I also dont like the point that was made earlier about his switch vote from Killing to VE. Wow, those reads are pretty terrible and you didn't even give any reasoning for them. What's up with that? In what world am I scum together with Killing? I am town, pretty sure dandel is town (yes, he probably did purposefully upset robik but that makes him a troll and an asshole maybe but not scum) - your new reads suck.
I have a feeling most of my reads are bad this game, but i'm trying. Killing is scum because despite having said he was going to figure this game out, try and all that jazz... he did nothing in his 24 hour night. He didn't have anything prepared, hadn't read over the day to get new reads. As town, joey is a try hard and he would have tried to figure it out. As mafia, I see him acting like he doesn't know what he's doing/doesn't care so that he seems towny. It's not towny. Joey is probably mafia here.
Dandel is a tricky one for me. I originally had Dandel leaning town, but the more aggro he gets, the more I feel like he's pushing a mafia agenda. Robert is super town for me, he might be a little crazy but I think he town and for Dandel to just throw out actual reads on robert and push for him to be lynched because he's a hindrance to the game doesn't sit well with me. Robert did the same thing but came at if from a different angle.
I didn't have a read on Grack the other day, because I didn't see him really doing much of anything. I'll read through his filter to get a better case on him, cause I can't remember what it was off the top of my head, but there was something that made me change my mind. I'll post on it after I read.
I had both JAT and OATS as town before, but through process of elimination of who i think are town, and who i feel i have some good town reads on I've had to rethink their position on my list.
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On March 09 2014 01:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really wonder why DM players like to noob claim.
can you stop with this
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