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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 08:14 GMT
#766
On March 05 2014 17:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 16:57 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 05 2014 16:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is me questioning Palmar scummy?


You throwing Palmar softballs // useless questions is scummy.

Bad answer. Back up with quotes.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#255
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#260

These questions just went nowhere relevant except that you agreed that Grack is scum if he trolls.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 08:31 GMT
#773
On March 05 2014 17:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 17:14 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 05 2014 17:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2014 16:57 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 05 2014 16:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is me questioning Palmar scummy?


You throwing Palmar softballs // useless questions is scummy.

Bad answer. Back up with quotes.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#255
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#260

These questions just went nowhere relevant except that you agreed that Grack is scum if he trolls.

1) It's a same question, so you don't actually have questionS which is already a misrepresentation.
2) Palmar gave me an answer that was not scummy and i could follow his train of thought.

Now tell me, again, how is my question useless?


They lead to nowhere and the only solid conclusion you seemed to draw from them was hardly even related to the question to begin with.

On March 04 2014 19:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
We lynch Grackaroni if he decides to troll, no fucking trolling because when he tries to play he is actually good or readable if he is mafia.


Honestly, if you're town, it just seemed like you wanted to hear Palmar call you a quality player. You've played with each other before do you really not know each others ideas of who quality players are or not yet? I've never even played with him and I had a decent idea of what he was getting at when he first said to VE "step up or get lynched".

Maybe I'm reading too much into it but it literally gave me nothing alignment-indicative from you so it read as useless fluff under the guise of "oh yea well I'm going somewhere with this because I just asked you to clarify again". Except it never went anywhere.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 08:38 GMT
#775
deal with it rofl
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 08:39 GMT
#777
##Unvote
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 08:43 GMT
#782
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 19:03 GMT
#1063
This is retarded-

On March 06 2014 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If killing / Robik flips mafia kill the other one. 100% guaranteed.


So is this-

On March 06 2014 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh shit, not necessarily, might be GGTeMpLaR too.


If there is scum it's Killing, not Robik, because this is the 2nd time Robik has called out Killing on something small in his post that was a good point.

On March 06 2014 02:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i called your smiley read dumb because it is dumb. I also called templar's posts bad because tehy were bad. Hell people even fucking agree with me on that, how the fuck is that "shitting on someone"? Posts that say nothing or posts which are based on bad logic are bad, there is no reason to call them flowers.


Town fucking asked for my thought process on the votes on like 6 separate occasions so I gave it. If you don't want bad/useless shit don't fucking ask for it over and over throughout the thread.

On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:
I am going to do this all in the order as I read it.. there are 10 pages to go through, so if this is too long I don't really care at this point. I'm just going to start responding to everything. I have noticed there are now 6 votes on me, and 6 hours to get them off of me. That doesn't leave me much time, so I'm pretty sure I'll end up being the lynch. That being said, I'm going to do everything I can right now to try and make that no happen.

Show nested quote +
For reasons stated before by myself and others. It's likely she slipped up early on, but I'll need to see more of her reads before I make her my final vote.


Templar, how in the hell do you see a slip? You guys are reaching and grasping at things that aren't there because you WANT me to be mafia, not because I am. There is no world right now, where I am mafia.



Because you cracked like it was the first game of mafia as mafia you ever played when you got pinged early on in those first few posts of yours getting hyper-defensive and backlashing against everyone.

If you think I WANT you to be mafia, that's absurd. It objectively read as what a mafia would say to me, not town.

On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:

OMFG... I asked him (and he didnt answer by the way) because Templar as town would be the first to admit that what he did was scummy. He would confirm that the way I was reading him was correct, which would in turn allow (as a whole) understand that I'm not just making shit up, I'm reading, paying attention and trying to figure this game out.


Actually I did answer and I sympathized with where you/killing/robik were all coming from in your meta scum read on me - However, I explained how that style really doesn't carry over into forum mafia because the voting mechanics are COMPLETELY different and said if you were town you should re-evaluate the meta read because it didn't make sense in this medium.

On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:
I am not, nor have I ever acted scummy in this thread, I might be nervous and I might have no idea what I'm doing (because, HI.. this is my first forum game) but I think I did an okay job.


That's bullshit. I sympathized with it being your first game, but your first few posts were scummy and the way you backlashed at everyone for calling it scummy came across as hyper-defensive and just read more scummy.

When you started giving actual reads instead of arguing with people "not knowing how to read you", you did a good job, especially in this latest post, I was reading you less and less scummy from your conviction if nothing else. Now that you've claimed it's all moot but now that you're basically confirmed town it's important you townread me so that's my thoughts on the matter.

Also, I agree with this 100%:
On March 06 2014 02:31 boonetown wrote:
oats you're an idiot


and that he's been so stupid that he has to be town because a mafia couldn't be that bad

Right now I actually still like the VE lynch. I don't like how he reacted to my obvious joke in the QT and I still don't like his reason for voting me.

On March 05 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
He also did something really scummy in the foundation chat (of which I am a part) in coming in and saying "I know both of you are scum, don't even talk to me" as his very first act. My first reaction to being chosen as one of the foundation thingys was "Hmm I guess I better go check the OP to see if it's possible scum are in here....looks like it's possible, better be careful" and I'm town. My first reaction was NOT that I was certain scum were allowed to be in the Foundation chat. The only people who should feel that way as their first reaction should be scum - because they know scum are allowed in the chat.


On March 05 2014 07:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 06:48 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2014 06:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Another Palmar thing I'm missing is stressing the importance of being read as town on D1 for all townies.


I thought I covered that with my rant on how I needed you to look town as I couldn't count on other people looking town earlier in the day.

At any rate, now that I look townie to you what do you think of GGTemp as a lynch? I'm pushing it not as an inactivity policy lynch, but based on the things he's said in the QT. I understand that's not super helpful to you, but considering what he HAS done in the thread, I can't imagine you opposing it.


After I linked the actual QT thread info, do you guys honestly think what is in there is a viable reason to scumread/lynch someone?

I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to killing austin today, but I wouldn't really endorse it either. If that's too tentative for you, deal with it, but I haven't really focused on him at all so he's pretty much dead-middle-null for me.

Another lynch that is actually growing on me is the Killing one, specifically for two things Robik pointed out in his posts on two separate occasions which were really dumb
1.
On March 05 2014 04:55 IAmRobik wrote:
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On March 05 2014 04:52 Killing wrote:
Also VE is really high in my town list, I liked what he had to say earlier and try to fix the fight between Robik and Dandel is probably townie.

Really? This is like the easiest thing in the world to do as mafia to get town credit if Dandelion and I are both town. This should be role neutral at best.


2.
On March 06 2014 02:13 IAmRobik wrote:
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On March 06 2014 01:29 Killing wrote:
Hey guys, Sorry I lurked all of last night. The reason I unvoted GGtemplar was simply because of his gigantic post. When he's town in video mafia, he'll go into these long winded theories about who he thinks the mafia and why but when he's mafia he'll just do a quick explanation. I'm not saying that he couldn't do his gigantic post as scum but I think it's extremely unlikely.

I don't know what's going on with boone this game as it isn't her town or mafia play. Typically, she can project town extremely well as either alignment but in this game she's done a pretty bad job. I don't really know what was the deal with the QT stuff in regards to the game but outting it probably pushed her to more scummy in my eyes.

Also, I had austin as one of my strongest towns earlier in the game but I don't know where he's been for hours. Where u at?

Here are my updated reads:

Strong Town

Rob

Leaning Town:

Palmar
GGTemplar
JAT
Dandelion

Neutral

Grack
Oats
VE

Leaning Maf

Alakazam
Rayn

Strong Maf

Boone


I think that's all except austin. I didn't put him because I was reading him town before but now that he hasn't really said much which makes me more unsure of him. no idea where to put him. if anyone has any questions about any of my reads, just ask and i'll clarify



There's a contradiction in the bolded parts. You say that her play is off and you can't get a good feel on whether she is maf or town, but that you lean scum on her (by the end of that bolded paragraph), but then you list her under "STRONG MAF" reads. I am so wishy-washy on Boone right now, I think having her as "strong maf" is quite the stretch.


Also, I still like my behavioral read of Dandelion this game trying to troll town (JAT/Robik) and cause chaos/confusion/misdirection.

Those are really the 4 people I'm okay with voting today. If I had to prioritize them, it would be like this

VE
Dandelion
Killing
Austin


Rayn/Oats need to work on reading comprehension but I can't really scumread them for constantly misreading my posts. Especially you Rayn, you read me right the past 2 games I played with you. If you're actually town you need to get off me.

Still like Robik as my top town but I also like Grack a lot for being the only other person besides myself to call out VE on that QT shit.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 19:26 GMT
#1090
On March 06 2014 04:21 austinmcc wrote:
VE and GGTemplar both.

Why is that particular contradiction in Boone's filter super telling? THIS QUESTION SOUNDS DUMB BUT IT IS REAL. I would prefer you talk a little more about Killing, or more about that one contradiction, rather than just mention it and justify yourselves off that.


In-of-itself it isn't _super_ telling, but it's the second time he gave some well thought out reads I thought, then threw a weak conclusion at the end.

Like he spent the time fabricating some arguments only to realize at the end that there was a ??? premise before the conclusion so he just pulled a

GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 19:29 GMT
#1092
idc i'm town
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 19:33 GMT
#1103
##Vote: Killing
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 19:34 GMT
#1109
On March 06 2014 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay now a serious question, is anyone entertaining the possibility of boone fakeclaiming here?


unless you want to lynch her today it's best to not talk about it
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 19:36 GMT
#1116
My priority list of 4 still stands.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 19:37 GMT
#1120
On March 06 2014 04:36 austinmcc wrote:
I didn't get anything super enlightening from VE or GGTemplar's responses to my question


k in the future I'll be sure to use

"premise
???
conclusion"

arguments around you because I know you won't scumread me for them
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 19:59 GMT
#1139
his vote on me is trolling
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 20:07 GMT
#1146
On March 06 2014 05:03 austinmcc wrote:
Voting killing.

I wish he were around to speak, hope he returns.

GG does happy things in his filter, like calling out slam, in his own way, and ... continuing some trains of thoughts/arguments in ways that are alright with me (i made this big post, did you read it? Could you read it, apart from the pictures? Palmar is scummy for fluff. No not all fluff, specific fluff. No, specific fluff. SPECIFIC TYPES OF FLUFF ARE SCUMMY TO ME. poking at rayn for a while, etc)


let's be real here, I literally said that in the beginning. It's not my fault he can't read. Look at the bold

[QUOTE]On March 05 2014 14:49 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 05 2014 13:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 05 2014 13:40 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 05 2014 13:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GGTeMpLaR called you fucking scum and town in the same post and gave two easy other reads with 10010 words and some fancy pictures..[/QUOTE]

Palmar
Lots of fluff posts that _look_ pro-town on the surface without actually contributing to finding scum. It's a lot of asking people to contribute to find scum
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=12#240]http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=12#240[/url]
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#242]http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#242[/url]
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#244]http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#244[/url]
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#245]http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#245[/url]
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#247]http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#247[/url]
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#256]http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#256[/url] (calls him town after a bunch of people already make the read, convenient that you give him that softball and then just agree with him anyways)
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#258]http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#258[/url] (another useless question asked by you that he answers with a lot of fluff that doesn't actually contribute towards finding scum)

[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#260]http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554&currentpage=13#260[/url] (not from palmer but another useless question from you. his response is another fluff post but it was a fluff question to begin with. where you went with it is just fluff)
[/QUOTE]
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 20:09 GMT
#1147
okay so that didn't work but the bold is the only important part anyways

I said it from the beginning. People didn't read it and spewed straw man fallacy shit to make me repeat myself
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 20:25 GMT
#1163
On March 06 2014 05:22 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 05:20 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:17 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:14 Grackaroni wrote:
The grackaroni hath fail sheep to get. But once fail perhaps win

##Unvote: VE
##Vote: Killing

Hijole

I believe ¡Hijole! is the proper term.


Forgive me for I am new to the way of CHUPAZI.

Mind giving a short reasoning for killing over templar?

I'm basically just sheeping between the two.

Austin and Robik pointed out some strange contradictions from killing's reads and I put some faith in Boone's reads of the DM players.

Sounds reasonable. I am ok with either of them dead.


that's alright, I'm ok with you dead too.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 20:27 GMT
#1169
On March 06 2014 05:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 05:25 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:20 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:17 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:14 Grackaroni wrote:
The grackaroni hath fail sheep to get. But once fail perhaps win

##Unvote: VE
##Vote: Killing

Hijole

I believe ¡Hijole! is the proper term.


Forgive me for I am new to the way of CHUPAZI.

Mind giving a short reasoning for killing over templar?

I'm basically just sheeping between the two.

Austin and Robik pointed out some strange contradictions from killing's reads and I put some faith in Boone's reads of the DM players.

Sounds reasonable. I am ok with either of them dead.


that's alright, I'm ok with you dead too.

Oh god I am feeling the pressure!


you would, scum

I don't feel any pressure
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 20:28 GMT
#1171
On March 06 2014 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 04:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
This is retarded-

On March 06 2014 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If killing / Robik flips mafia kill the other one. 100% guaranteed.


So is this-

On March 06 2014 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh shit, not necessarily, might be GGTeMpLaR too.


If there is scum it's Killing, not Robik, because this is the 2nd time Robik has called out Killing on something small in his post that was a good point.

On March 06 2014 02:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i called your smiley read dumb because it is dumb. I also called templar's posts bad because tehy were bad. Hell people even fucking agree with me on that, how the fuck is that "shitting on someone"? Posts that say nothing or posts which are based on bad logic are bad, there is no reason to call them flowers.


Town fucking asked for my thought process on the votes on like 6 separate occasions so I gave it. If you don't want bad/useless shit don't fucking ask for it over and over throughout the thread.

On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:
I am going to do this all in the order as I read it.. there are 10 pages to go through, so if this is too long I don't really care at this point. I'm just going to start responding to everything. I have noticed there are now 6 votes on me, and 6 hours to get them off of me. That doesn't leave me much time, so I'm pretty sure I'll end up being the lynch. That being said, I'm going to do everything I can right now to try and make that no happen.

For reasons stated before by myself and others. It's likely she slipped up early on, but I'll need to see more of her reads before I make her my final vote.


Templar, how in the hell do you see a slip? You guys are reaching and grasping at things that aren't there because you WANT me to be mafia, not because I am. There is no world right now, where I am mafia.



Because you cracked like it was the first game of mafia as mafia you ever played when you got pinged early on in those first few posts of yours getting hyper-defensive and backlashing against everyone.

If you think I WANT you to be mafia, that's absurd. It objectively read as what a mafia would say to me, not town.

On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:

OMFG... I asked him (and he didnt answer by the way) because Templar as town would be the first to admit that what he did was scummy. He would confirm that the way I was reading him was correct, which would in turn allow (as a whole) understand that I'm not just making shit up, I'm reading, paying attention and trying to figure this game out.


Actually I did answer and I sympathized with where you/killing/robik were all coming from in your meta scum read on me - However, I explained how that style really doesn't carry over into forum mafia because the voting mechanics are COMPLETELY different and said if you were town you should re-evaluate the meta read because it didn't make sense in this medium.

On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:
I am not, nor have I ever acted scummy in this thread, I might be nervous and I might have no idea what I'm doing (because, HI.. this is my first forum game) but I think I did an okay job.


That's bullshit. I sympathized with it being your first game, but your first few posts were scummy and the way you backlashed at everyone for calling it scummy came across as hyper-defensive and just read more scummy.

When you started giving actual reads instead of arguing with people "not knowing how to read you", you did a good job, especially in this latest post, I was reading you less and less scummy from your conviction if nothing else. Now that you've claimed it's all moot but now that you're basically confirmed town it's important you townread me so that's my thoughts on the matter.

Also, I agree with this 100%:
On March 06 2014 02:31 boonetown wrote:
oats you're an idiot


and that he's been so stupid that he has to be town because a mafia couldn't be that bad

Right now I actually still like the VE lynch. I don't like how he reacted to my obvious joke in the QT and I still don't like his reason for voting me.

On March 05 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
He also did something really scummy in the foundation chat (of which I am a part) in coming in and saying "I know both of you are scum, don't even talk to me" as his very first act. My first reaction to being chosen as one of the foundation thingys was "Hmm I guess I better go check the OP to see if it's possible scum are in here....looks like it's possible, better be careful" and I'm town. My first reaction was NOT that I was certain scum were allowed to be in the Foundation chat. The only people who should feel that way as their first reaction should be scum - because they know scum are allowed in the chat.


On March 05 2014 07:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 05 2014 06:48 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2014 06:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Another Palmar thing I'm missing is stressing the importance of being read as town on D1 for all townies.


I thought I covered that with my rant on how I needed you to look town as I couldn't count on other people looking town earlier in the day.

At any rate, now that I look townie to you what do you think of GGTemp as a lynch? I'm pushing it not as an inactivity policy lynch, but based on the things he's said in the QT. I understand that's not super helpful to you, but considering what he HAS done in the thread, I can't imagine you opposing it.


After I linked the actual QT thread info, do you guys honestly think what is in there is a viable reason to scumread/lynch someone?

I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to killing austin today, but I wouldn't really endorse it either. If that's too tentative for you, deal with it, but I haven't really focused on him at all so he's pretty much dead-middle-null for me.

Another lynch that is actually growing on me is the Killing one, specifically for two things Robik pointed out in his posts on two separate occasions which were really dumb
1.
On March 05 2014 04:55 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 05 2014 04:52 Killing wrote:
Also VE is really high in my town list, I liked what he had to say earlier and try to fix the fight between Robik and Dandel is probably townie.

Really? This is like the easiest thing in the world to do as mafia to get town credit if Dandelion and I are both town. This should be role neutral at best.


2.
On March 06 2014 02:13 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 06 2014 01:29 Killing wrote:
Hey guys, Sorry I lurked all of last night. The reason I unvoted GGtemplar was simply because of his gigantic post. When he's town in video mafia, he'll go into these long winded theories about who he thinks the mafia and why but when he's mafia he'll just do a quick explanation. I'm not saying that he couldn't do his gigantic post as scum but I think it's extremely unlikely.

I don't know what's going on with boone this game as it isn't her town or mafia play. Typically, she can project town extremely well as either alignment but in this game she's done a pretty bad job. I don't really know what was the deal with the QT stuff in regards to the game but outting it probably pushed her to more scummy in my eyes.

Also, I had austin as one of my strongest towns earlier in the game but I don't know where he's been for hours. Where u at?

Here are my updated reads:

Strong Town

Rob

Leaning Town:

Palmar
GGTemplar
JAT
Dandelion

Neutral

Grack
Oats
VE

Leaning Maf

Alakazam
Rayn

Strong Maf

Boone


I think that's all except austin. I didn't put him because I was reading him town before but now that he hasn't really said much which makes me more unsure of him. no idea where to put him. if anyone has any questions about any of my reads, just ask and i'll clarify



There's a contradiction in the bolded parts. You say that her play is off and you can't get a good feel on whether she is maf or town, but that you lean scum on her (by the end of that bolded paragraph), but then you list her under "STRONG MAF" reads. I am so wishy-washy on Boone right now, I think having her as "strong maf" is quite the stretch.


Also, I still like my behavioral read of Dandelion this game trying to troll town (JAT/Robik) and cause chaos/confusion/misdirection.

Those are really the 4 people I'm okay with voting today. If I had to prioritize them, it would be like this

VE
Dandelion
Killing
Austin


Rayn/Oats need to work on reading comprehension but I can't really scumread them for constantly misreading my posts. Especially you Rayn, you read me right the past 2 games I played with you. If you're actually town you need to get off me.

Still like Robik as my top town but I also like Grack a lot for being the only other person besides myself to call out VE on that QT shit.

Kill for this post. Kill fo this post!!!!!!
Killing was green earlier! Now when he is a lynch target he is scum.
Kill kill kill!!!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger sums up your life on the forums
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 20:31 GMT
#1178
##Unvote
##Vote: Rayn


not even kidding

this kid is supposed to be good as town and he sucks this game so he's mafia

call it OMGUS all you want, IDGAF. He's inconsistent in his criticism of me and has tunnel'd me over the dumbest shit and he doesn't even read my posts properly and asks like a million stupid questions that he wouldn't have to if he just read proper english
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 20:32 GMT
#1179
On March 06 2014 05:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 05:28 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2014 04:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
This is retarded-

On March 06 2014 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If killing / Robik flips mafia kill the other one. 100% guaranteed.


So is this-

On March 06 2014 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh shit, not necessarily, might be GGTeMpLaR too.


If there is scum it's Killing, not Robik, because this is the 2nd time Robik has called out Killing on something small in his post that was a good point.

On March 06 2014 02:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i called your smiley read dumb because it is dumb. I also called templar's posts bad because tehy were bad. Hell people even fucking agree with me on that, how the fuck is that "shitting on someone"? Posts that say nothing or posts which are based on bad logic are bad, there is no reason to call them flowers.


Town fucking asked for my thought process on the votes on like 6 separate occasions so I gave it. If you don't want bad/useless shit don't fucking ask for it over and over throughout the thread.

On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:
I am going to do this all in the order as I read it.. there are 10 pages to go through, so if this is too long I don't really care at this point. I'm just going to start responding to everything. I have noticed there are now 6 votes on me, and 6 hours to get them off of me. That doesn't leave me much time, so I'm pretty sure I'll end up being the lynch. That being said, I'm going to do everything I can right now to try and make that no happen.

For reasons stated before by myself and others. It's likely she slipped up early on, but I'll need to see more of her reads before I make her my final vote.


Templar, how in the hell do you see a slip? You guys are reaching and grasping at things that aren't there because you WANT me to be mafia, not because I am. There is no world right now, where I am mafia.



Because you cracked like it was the first game of mafia as mafia you ever played when you got pinged early on in those first few posts of yours getting hyper-defensive and backlashing against everyone.

If you think I WANT you to be mafia, that's absurd. It objectively read as what a mafia would say to me, not town.

On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:

OMFG... I asked him (and he didnt answer by the way) because Templar as town would be the first to admit that what he did was scummy. He would confirm that the way I was reading him was correct, which would in turn allow (as a whole) understand that I'm not just making shit up, I'm reading, paying attention and trying to figure this game out.


Actually I did answer and I sympathized with where you/killing/robik were all coming from in your meta scum read on me - However, I explained how that style really doesn't carry over into forum mafia because the voting mechanics are COMPLETELY different and said if you were town you should re-evaluate the meta read because it didn't make sense in this medium.

On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:
I am not, nor have I ever acted scummy in this thread, I might be nervous and I might have no idea what I'm doing (because, HI.. this is my first forum game) but I think I did an okay job.


That's bullshit. I sympathized with it being your first game, but your first few posts were scummy and the way you backlashed at everyone for calling it scummy came across as hyper-defensive and just read more scummy.

When you started giving actual reads instead of arguing with people "not knowing how to read you", you did a good job, especially in this latest post, I was reading you less and less scummy from your conviction if nothing else. Now that you've claimed it's all moot but now that you're basically confirmed town it's important you townread me so that's my thoughts on the matter.

Also, I agree with this 100%:
On March 06 2014 02:31 boonetown wrote:
oats you're an idiot


and that he's been so stupid that he has to be town because a mafia couldn't be that bad

Right now I actually still like the VE lynch. I don't like how he reacted to my obvious joke in the QT and I still don't like his reason for voting me.

On March 05 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
He also did something really scummy in the foundation chat (of which I am a part) in coming in and saying "I know both of you are scum, don't even talk to me" as his very first act. My first reaction to being chosen as one of the foundation thingys was "Hmm I guess I better go check the OP to see if it's possible scum are in here....looks like it's possible, better be careful" and I'm town. My first reaction was NOT that I was certain scum were allowed to be in the Foundation chat. The only people who should feel that way as their first reaction should be scum - because they know scum are allowed in the chat.


On March 05 2014 07:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 05 2014 06:48 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2014 06:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Another Palmar thing I'm missing is stressing the importance of being read as town on D1 for all townies.


I thought I covered that with my rant on how I needed you to look town as I couldn't count on other people looking town earlier in the day.

At any rate, now that I look townie to you what do you think of GGTemp as a lynch? I'm pushing it not as an inactivity policy lynch, but based on the things he's said in the QT. I understand that's not super helpful to you, but considering what he HAS done in the thread, I can't imagine you opposing it.


After I linked the actual QT thread info, do you guys honestly think what is in there is a viable reason to scumread/lynch someone?

I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to killing austin today, but I wouldn't really endorse it either. If that's too tentative for you, deal with it, but I haven't really focused on him at all so he's pretty much dead-middle-null for me.

Another lynch that is actually growing on me is the Killing one, specifically for two things Robik pointed out in his posts on two separate occasions which were really dumb
1.
On March 05 2014 04:55 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 05 2014 04:52 Killing wrote:
Also VE is really high in my town list, I liked what he had to say earlier and try to fix the fight between Robik and Dandel is probably townie.

Really? This is like the easiest thing in the world to do as mafia to get town credit if Dandelion and I are both town. This should be role neutral at best.


2.
On March 06 2014 02:13 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 06 2014 01:29 Killing wrote:
Hey guys, Sorry I lurked all of last night. The reason I unvoted GGtemplar was simply because of his gigantic post. When he's town in video mafia, he'll go into these long winded theories about who he thinks the mafia and why but when he's mafia he'll just do a quick explanation. I'm not saying that he couldn't do his gigantic post as scum but I think it's extremely unlikely.

I don't know what's going on with boone this game as it isn't her town or mafia play. Typically, she can project town extremely well as either alignment but in this game she's done a pretty bad job. I don't really know what was the deal with the QT stuff in regards to the game but outting it probably pushed her to more scummy in my eyes.

Also, I had austin as one of my strongest towns earlier in the game but I don't know where he's been for hours. Where u at?

Here are my updated reads:

Strong Town

Rob

Leaning Town:

Palmar
GGTemplar
JAT
Dandelion

Neutral

Grack
Oats
VE

Leaning Maf

Alakazam
Rayn

Strong Maf

Boone


I think that's all except austin. I didn't put him because I was reading him town before but now that he hasn't really said much which makes me more unsure of him. no idea where to put him. if anyone has any questions about any of my reads, just ask and i'll clarify



There's a contradiction in the bolded parts. You say that her play is off and you can't get a good feel on whether she is maf or town, but that you lean scum on her (by the end of that bolded paragraph), but then you list her under "STRONG MAF" reads. I am so wishy-washy on Boone right now, I think having her as "strong maf" is quite the stretch.


Also, I still like my behavioral read of Dandelion this game trying to troll town (JAT/Robik) and cause chaos/confusion/misdirection.

Those are really the 4 people I'm okay with voting today. If I had to prioritize them, it would be like this

VE
Dandelion
Killing
Austin


Rayn/Oats need to work on reading comprehension but I can't really scumread them for constantly misreading my posts. Especially you Rayn, you read me right the past 2 games I played with you. If you're actually town you need to get off me.

Still like Robik as my top town but I also like Grack a lot for being the only other person besides myself to call out VE on that QT shit.

Kill for this post. Kill fo this post!!!!!!
Killing was green earlier! Now when he is a lynch target he is scum.
Kill kill kill!!!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger sums up your life on the forums

"Incapable of answering arguments" would describe you you fucking asshat! I adon't even feel bad saying this because you do that as mafia.


Guy calls me scum with no reason. I retort, you call me out on having no argument.

#logic

get out scum
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