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On March 04 2014 22:15 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2014 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 04 2014 22:10 justanothertownie wrote:On March 04 2014 22:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 04 2014 21:07 Dandel Ion wrote:On March 04 2014 21:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Random lynching is a good discussion starter but a terrible play itself while policy lynching has it's merits. Well that is just wrong Like this post is really good in my opinion because JAT's post is really bad. Why is it good? What does it achieve? Random lynching can't be a good discussion starter if it's terrible play. That's just not possible. It's a good discussion starter because it get's people talking. That is what I wanted to say. You could rightfully argue that there are more productive discussion topics. My main point here was that the act of random lynching in itself is bad.
If you acknowledge that random lynching is bad, then you should also think noone should support it because why would they if it's bad? Therefore it can't be a good discussion starter as you can't possibly draw any conclusions from people's responses because everyone should act the same, cut off bad stuff from the thread. If it's a good discussion starter it can't be bad because in your opinion supporting/not supporting it are both valid opinions (given proper) which contradicts the statement that it's terrible play.
This is also to Palmar, because the next post from Dandel where he says "every lynch, even random lynching gives us information so you are wrong etc." makes me think this is what he caught from JAT's post i brought up, because those two statements actually do not go together.
I think random lynching is terrible, i don't think it should be discussed, because you can only support it and not support it which means you want to or don't want to lynch VE, and it tells absolutely nothing about your alignment in comparsion (or regardless of) to VE's. But if people keep discussing this shit i try to draw conclusions from what people said, like this one, where i think JAT's post is really bad and i don't know why he made it.
On March 04 2014 22:13 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2014 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 04 2014 22:06 justanothertownie wrote:On March 04 2014 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 04 2014 20:24 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2014 19:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robik why are you picking on boone?
Can you give me a train of thought what she's doing in your opinion? Do you not think his point on boone is fair? Not necessarily. I might know what he is after but i am not sure. On March 04 2014 21:17 justanothertownie wrote:On March 04 2014 19:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 04 2014 19:08 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2014 18:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes Slam is most likely town. Do you have any other reads? Austin top scumread atm but i need to hear more from him. Would you mind explaining? I get the slam read, just the austin read. I liked Oats' point on him as i said. I don't know, why are you asking this, was i not clear enough? That's like the only thing that stood out for me besides what i have talking about / asking in thread but it's not enough for me to call austin totally scum for it, especially considering i have a history of totally misreading him in exactly 100% of our games together. Hm, ok. I didn't remember that. Also I think it is a pretty weak reason for a scumread. Especially since what oats said is not true. What have i missed, explain please. Well austin mentions boone once in a question to another player because that player talked about her. How is talking about boone the only substantial thing austin says then and why should he have/post a read on her especially? Don't get me wrong I won't claim that austin contributed much but that statement from oats is just wrong.
The thing is, he dropped a random question to robik and went away. I can see him doing that as town aswell but the fact is to me it looks like he is sort of defending boone rather than trying to find out what rob's reads were about. The way he words his former question is also really weird.
Like he said:
On March 04 2014 12:45 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2014 12:02 IAmRobik wrote:On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote:
Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys. Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign. Can you be specific with 1-2 of your reads?
He basically asks rob to pick a read from the pool boone/ggtemplar/killing. Like it's fucking weird in the first place and idk why would he do so in the first place? There is no follow up like "why did you pick that specific read", just sort of a defense after rob gives his read and then nothing. I don't get if austin even cares about who rob talks about... The whole thing reads like "what the fuck" to me...
From me, i am not sure if Oats is right or wrong or if this was what he is after in the first place, i am not sure if Oats is even town, but pressuring austin to talk and to give conclusions is the correct play regardless of anyone's alignment. Because austin doesn't reach to fucking conclusions before i get mad to him and start to tunnel him. That's why i always think he is town, he just posts random questions and shit that looks fancy but it never leads to anything until it's too late for me to think he is town.
So i, myself, want to pressure him into giving some concrete shit from the beginning. And what he said about boone/robik is weird as fuck to me for the reasons i stated above.
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EBWOP: why i always think he is scum.
I should really sleep for an hour or so, i can't even type anymore..
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JAT (or anyone) is there something you want me to talk about before i disappear for a while?
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Because that is a post that i would have essentially made regardless of if you asked me about it or not and my first post was a +1 to Oats because i wanted also him to encourage elaborate more on the matter as i don't 100% know what he is after and i want to see his follow up too.
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On March 04 2014 22:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
Except rayn's stuff on austin is worse than Oats' because that's not at all what austin said.
Can you explain to me what austin said because that's exactly what he said.
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On March 04 2014 22:47 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2014 22:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
JAT (or anyone) is there something you want me to talk about before i disappear for a while? I would like to hear an opinion on boone and see if you are seeing what I am seeing but I guess we can also discuss this later when she posted a bit more. I will be available for a pretty long time today.
Again yes, but only after Rob answers me about boone.
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On March 04 2014 22:49 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2014 22:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 04 2014 22:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
Except rayn's stuff on austin is worse than Oats' because that's not at all what austin said. Can you explain to me what austin said because that's exactly what he said. He asked for actual reads instead of wishy-washy general statements. You're talking about stuff like the pool of newbies or whatever, I don't see anything like that from austin. In fact, you are the only one in the game that suggested something like that, but here you are attacking austin for it when he didn't.
I don't get a fucking thing about this post.
Robik said: "I think boone, ggtemplar and killing seem all scummy because they are different than usually as town"
austin: "can you elaborate on 1-2 of those reads"
Robik: [stuff about boone]
austin: "okay that seems reasonable" [some questions]
What i picked up considering the red part is the starting point i don't get the green follow up. How is this how it didn't happen?
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Actually who the fuck is Joey?
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Okay yes, i want to hear austin's read on boone, killing and GGtemplar.
Now i am seriously off for a while.
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On March 05 2014 04:38 boonetown wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 04:34 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 04:33 boonetown wrote:On March 05 2014 04:32 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 04:28 boonetown wrote: Boone, why is austin scum, and why is GGtemp voting badly, and has the other people you play video mafia with match their meta there so far? Austin is leaning town more and more, which is unfortunate because I was pretty happy thinking I found a mafia in the QT. GGtemp, if you have ever seen him play, is the most paranoid town player in the history of mafia, ever. He would rather sleep every single day of the game in order to not mislynch someone. He only votes if he's mafia, or if he knows the vote won't go through, as a trolly way to make it look like he made a choice. Either templar isn't even trying, or he's mafia. That's where I'm currently at with his allignment. Is austin leaning town because of qt or thread activity? Both, but more so what has been recently posted in the QT. Could be a show, but seems very genuine. Has rayn posted in there? What is your opinion on him? Rayn has posted very little, but I really liked that he asked if we should bring the QT to the thread and let people know about it. Rayn. I think based on early gut reads and reactions Rayn is town. I had stated earlier that if there were mafia between the two I thought it was Austin, now that my read on him is changing I'm going to have to reread Rayn in the thread and see if my read on Rayn adapts as well. For now, They could both potentially be town, which would be great for the purpose of the QT.
Not true. I asked austin if he thinks using the QT is a good idea or not. Pay attention, this was not a good idea.
On March 05 2014 06:51 Grackaroni wrote:
It's kind of strange to me that Rayn wanted to policy lynch me this game when he hasn't really tried to do it in other games, but maybe he's just really sick of my play.
Other than that nothing besides the Austin attack sticks out to me.
Not true. I voted you for pure policy in SMB and i will do it every game you play like that. A question, am i supposed to read Palmar as mafia in your opinion? If not, why the fuck am i scum for it?
Didn't GGTeMpLar just call Slam town and mafia?
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In other news this game is boring because what i expected just happened. So i go play the other game for a while.
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On March 05 2014 13:02 Grackaroni wrote:
That was one of my better games lol. I would have gotten Koshi lynched if you didn't pop in at the last minute and move it off Koshi onto me.
Yes but you trolled for the first 45 hours and when you started playing i had no time to check if you are doing good or bad job and it felt like self-preservation.
Can you answer me about Palmar?
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On March 05 2014 13:01 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 12:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2014 04:38 boonetown wrote:On March 05 2014 04:34 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 04:33 boonetown wrote:On March 05 2014 04:32 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 04:28 boonetown wrote: Boone, why is austin scum, and why is GGtemp voting badly, and has the other people you play video mafia with match their meta there so far? Austin is leaning town more and more, which is unfortunate because I was pretty happy thinking I found a mafia in the QT. GGtemp, if you have ever seen him play, is the most paranoid town player in the history of mafia, ever. He would rather sleep every single day of the game in order to not mislynch someone. He only votes if he's mafia, or if he knows the vote won't go through, as a trolly way to make it look like he made a choice. Either templar isn't even trying, or he's mafia. That's where I'm currently at with his allignment. Is austin leaning town because of qt or thread activity? Both, but more so what has been recently posted in the QT. Could be a show, but seems very genuine. Has rayn posted in there? What is your opinion on him? Rayn has posted very little, but I really liked that he asked if we should bring the QT to the thread and let people know about it. Rayn. I think based on early gut reads and reactions Rayn is town. I had stated earlier that if there were mafia between the two I thought it was Austin, now that my read on him is changing I'm going to have to reread Rayn in the thread and see if my read on Rayn adapts as well. For now, They could both potentially be town, which would be great for the purpose of the QT. Not true. I asked austin if he thinks using the QT is a good idea or not. Pay attention, this was not a good idea. On March 05 2014 06:51 Grackaroni wrote:
It's kind of strange to me that Rayn wanted to policy lynch me this game when he hasn't really tried to do it in other games, but maybe he's just really sick of my play.
Other than that nothing besides the Austin attack sticks out to me. Not true. I voted you for pure policy in SMB and i will do it every game you play like that. A question, am i supposed to read Palmar as mafia in your opinion? If not, why the fuck am i scum for it? Didn't GGTeMpLar just call Slam town and mafia? I think? I'm not really sure even. Look at the vote thread rayn, does not that stuff look suspicious to you?
I don't knowwhat do you mean? Elaborate please.
Top 2 vote leaders are bad votes and i don't even know why there are votes on them.
Also:
##Vote: GGTeMpLaR
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I still have no idea what you mean Slam.
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I can understand these new people finding you sucmmy because what you usually post is scummy even when you are town rofl.  That's not a scumtell but it's also not a way of reading you.
What has boonetown done that she is not scummy to you or ggtemp that he is more scummy?
She has been very open about her thoughts and i can follow her thought process and reasoning behind why she does things she does. GGTeMpLaR called you fucking scum and town in the same post and gave two easy other reads with 10010 words and some fancy pictures..
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On March 05 2014 13:35 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 13:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2014 13:02 Grackaroni wrote:
That was one of my better games lol. I would have gotten Koshi lynched if you didn't pop in at the last minute and move it off Koshi onto me. Yes but you trolled for the first 45 hours and when you started playing i had no time to check if you are doing good or bad job and it felt like self-preservation. Can you answer me about Palmar? Palmar policy lynches all the time and calls people shit. You not as much. That doesn't really have much to do with why I dislike you. Austin just asked me to talk more about you and that was the only other thing that was kind of weird to me. So of course you shouldn't call Palmar scum for that. (I'm not sure if this is what you were asking though? lol)
The thing is Mocsta did the exact same fucking thing in Cultured game and it got me really mad. I townread Toad and he townread me and Mocsta was shitting on both of us for no reason, but he also did not think we should call each other scum. I am not paranoid about people. Especially about players i consider strong. I work with them and if they do something scummy i call them out for it. You very well know that, so i have no idea why you called me out for townreading Palmar because 1) i didn't even say i think he is town and 2) if you don't think i should call him mafia i don't see a reason why you would do so other than shitting on me and spreading mistrust for no reasoning.
I policy lynch a shitton. I just don't do that in the first 40 hours into the game.
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On March 05 2014 13:39 Grackaroni wrote:
Did you change your mind on Austin from before, or do you think he's shaped up since then?
I have no fucking idea what austin is doing.
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On March 05 2014 13:40 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 13:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GGTeMpLaR called you fucking scum and town in the same post and gave two easy other reads with 10010 words and some fancy pictures.. You're not even reading clearly. I was explaining why I had initially voted for him and then stopped voting for him. I clearly concluded I had a light town read on him. go reread my post, which isn't even that big - it's 50% oversized pictures
So who is mafia? I don't care about your townreads on DM people because it's the easiest thing you can write an essay about. I don't care why you had a scumread on Slam and why you did change your mind.
You basically wrote a big post about something that says very little.
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Slam i am confused. Are you voting for boone because you think she outed the scum QT?
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